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Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Gwan2(m): 11:40am On Jan 02, 2017
hamingra:
So the fulanis just for fun, like killing defenceless women and children in dusty villages for, like you claim, "ethnic cleansing" abi? So what do you think is the aim? Take over their land and do what with it? Plant cows? Or are they planning to settle down in these villages?

You and folks like you are evidence of our failed education. Simple deductive reasoning is beyond your comprehension. Am sure you won't think even if your life depended on it! Smh!
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Mr proper educational system will u pls stfu.. undecided . I have stayed most part of my life in Kd so plz respect ur irrelevant personality. .Is it a secret that some sophisticated weapons and machineries was mistakenly sent to Kagoma community instead of a hausa/fulani community within that environs that share almost the same name with Kagoma on the supposedly orders frm above in the state?...This happened at the heat of the fulani massacre....If u still dnt understand or decipher , then I have nothing than to wish u and ur family fulani visitations dis year.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Corrinthians(m): 11:43am On Jan 02, 2017
ephi123:
What a pity. On the 2nd day of 2017, you still have not an IOTA of sense.
cheesy

Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by ephi123(f): 11:47am On Jan 02, 2017
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Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by ganye1: 11:50am On Jan 02, 2017
farydah:
why wouldn't they be at advantage when the have government support. When arms from the governor meant to be taken to Dangoma mistakenly gets taken to kagoma. Trying to finish off kaninkon people because they are the strongest in SK right? Hmmnnnn
It is you and your government's problem when you want to bring it into the matter. If you know the Fulani herdsmen well you will know that their nomadic nature gives them an edge over any settled community. They can move the vulnerable and their properties to safer locations while the crisis lasts.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by calaway(m): 11:50am On Jan 02, 2017
hamingra:
So the fulanis just for fun, like killing defenceless women and children in dusty villages for, like you claim, "ethnic cleansing" abi? So what do you think is the aim? Take over their land and do what with it? Plant cows? Or are they planning to settle down in these villages?

You and folks like you are evidence of our failed education. Simple deductive reasoning is beyond your comprehension. Am sure you won't think even if your life depended on it! Smh!
LOOK AT THIS ONE TRYING TO TRIVIALIZE THE COLD BLOODED MASS MURDER OF SLEEPING CHILDREN AND WOMEN.
IF YOU DONT KNOW WHY YOUR PEOPLE SACK AND OCCUPY VILLAGES PLEASE GO AND ASK THEM.

LET ME ASSURE YOU THAT WHEN KARMA MATURES ON THE FULANI, YOU WILL REGRET IDENTIFYING WITH THEM.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by ahmedzak46: 11:52am On Jan 02, 2017
Don't be in a haste to burn down another man's house while ur father is still alive, cos he might be taken as ransom for ur stupid act!!!
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by ItsMeAboki(m): 11:56am On Jan 02, 2017
ephi123:
Yeah so true, you are very right. Like the 97 - 5% utterance that Buhari himself made. He has caused far more disunity than any other Nigerian leader and led the way for others to do same. Eod.
The 95% vs 5% speech is exactly another example of the information mismanagement I had earlier mentioned.

If you had cared to refer to the full speech of Mr president (the full version of the video clip is still available in youtube; while the written transcript of same can also be traced using google search - for verification) you will quickly come to realise that he was deliberately being quoted out of context, in order to give his message an entirely opposite meaning to what he actually said - so as to malign him.

Again, you will observe that the media was and is still guilty of being willing collaborators in the propagation of this misinformation to the majority of the gullible public, because they (the media) have done nothing so far to correct this anomaly.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Gwan2(m): 12:00pm On Jan 02, 2017
9jakohai:
Actually, they do.

Farmers, herdsmen clash in Sokoto

Another clash in another area of Sokoto.

Fulanis have also been targeted by Boko Haram....especially in attacks on cattle markets in Borno
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I respect you for backing ur assertion with links eventhough the content was not comprehensive enough...without trying to be opinionated,..the so called fulani fighting in the middle belt are machineries empowered with sophisticated weapons on Christian populated communities especially in the north....the fulani in ur link are supposedly the herdmen moving abt with cows whom will once in a while have a rift with farmers in communities especially if thier cattles graze on the fields , why is the sokoto clash not prolonged with reprisals upon repraisals... Buh I can tell you the Kd clash has not ended yet.. if u catch my drift....Anyway if u don't , goodluck to you.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Nobody: 12:03pm On Jan 02, 2017
kai all dis people supporting fulanis sef..what's your problem na..have some sympathy for Pete sake at least.. they are so many cases where defenseless people are being attacked for no just cause.( speaking from experience).dis guys feel they are small gods esp now dat they think (as in their small mind) that their brother is on seat.. abeg call a spade what it is na..
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by ephi123(f): 12:06pm On Jan 02, 2017
ItsMeAboki:
The 95% vs 5% speech is exactly another example of the information mismanagement I had earlier mentioned.

If you had cared to refer to the full speech of Mr president (the full version of the video clip is still available in youtube; while the written transcript of same can also be traced using google search - for verification) you will quickly come to realise that he was deliberately being quoted out of context, in order to give his message an entirely opposite meaning to what he actually said - so as to malign him.

Again, you will observe that the media was and is still guilty of being willing collaborators in the propagation of this misinformation to the majority of the gullible public, because they (the media) have done nothing so far to correct this anomaly.
Same thing I guess you will say with the baboons soaked in blood comment that led to election violence which resulted in some corpers losing their lives.

Is he the first or the only one who makes speeches? Why is it only his speech that ends up being "misrepresented by the media" time and again?

I maintain my stand that his utterances have been very divisive. A man who talks when he should keep quiet, and keeps quiet when he should speak.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by ephi123(f): 12:08pm On Jan 02, 2017
myzzudenyisarah:
kai all dis people supporting fulanis sef.. what's your problem na..have some sympathy for Pete sake at least.. they are so many cases where defenseless people are being attacked for no just cause.( speaking from experience).dis guys feel they are small gods esp now dat they think (as in their small mind) that their brother is on seat.. abeg call a spade what it is na..
I tell you. What do you expect when they have no value for human life.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Alanzazani: 12:25pm On Jan 02, 2017
fulanis are heartless bandits. ask drivers that ply roads. they kill wihtout any provocation. a colleague narrated how her kinsman in abuja; at a settlement along airport road went to poo in the bush and for no rwason this guys just came and hit him with thier stick on the head and he died. we have been chased by them for no reason when we were schooling in bauchi in the bush behind our hostels.blood thirsty bastards. they shot at my oldman's car along Jos road wanted to kill him. what about the Sa'f Kulere they shot into his car ib plateau state and killed how many members of a family. i trust southern kd. they will lick thier wounds but they will never forget
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Nobody: 12:28pm On Jan 02, 2017
texazzpete:
I asked a friend about all these claims of the herdsmen.

He's a detribalized, neutral Nigerian who runs a research institute.

Here's his response.
fake news everywhere. sad
the world is in trouble
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Unimaginable123: 12:30pm On Jan 02, 2017
This meyeti Allah man is a cow. Why list only fulanis that were killed, without listing innocent southern kaduna indigenes that fulanis killed
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Nobody:
ItsMeAboki:
I am.
This affirmation stood out in your post. I guessed as much, one day I assure you, you shall be caught red handed and no amount of social media face saving propaganda will save you afterwards
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by maasoap(m): 12:51pm On Jan 02, 2017
Joel3:
nonsense talk. who will believe this shiit?

is that what also transpired when the Fulani traveled to Enugu to kill people. if they can travel this far to Enugu to slaughter Ibo's then they are more to this silly explanation & excuse
What prompted them to travel to the far Enugu to kill people? I have been saying this: we have to be sincere with ourselves before we can address all these killings.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Maduawuchukwu(m): 1:00pm On Jan 02, 2017
I am a Kaduna Based man so I feel the ongoing crises personally. The Fulani usually claim that their cattles and people are killed by the Farmers and the media hardly report it because the media is southern based. I wonder, the Fulanis also have a media arm in the form of The Daily Trust newspapers which is based in Kaduna. If the farmers do indeed attack the herdsmen and kill them like they do claim The Daily Trust would have surely reported it which makes me doubt the Fulani claims.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Codes151(m): 1:09pm On Jan 02, 2017
ddippset:
Sentiments aside, 90% of people just sit down in their homes and pass a guilty verdict on the herdsmen. Yes there are stories about herdsmen allowing their cattle to trample upon farmlands and there are stories about herdsmen killing villagers but there are also stories about villagers hijacking cattle and killing them for meat and also villagers killing herdsmen over arguments. At the risk of sounding very very politically incorrect, I would say that much of the crimes committed against herdsmen go unreported and unpublicized while much of those committed by the herdsmen get publicized. Nevertheless the security guys must be more proactive to stop the killing of anybody. Anyone who kills in the name of herdsmen, farmers crisis should be hanged.
sentiments aside bros! U already r biased n in no place to comment without being sentimental!! From this your comment, I'd say the best solution is that u a herdsman keep your cows In your house! Don't allow it roam! Hence there will be no problem!

But then it's not cool!

Am not a farmer nor herdsman! So if I want to come in, I'd come in at this angle. Hardly do u c someone steal a cattle but mostly u see cattle causing commotion on roads, farms etc!
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by crush20(m): 1:35pm On Jan 02, 2017
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Corrinthians:
As usual, nnamdi kanu's zombies would be the first to arrive a thread like this and pour brown smelly spittle everywhere. grin grin

They were nowhere to be found on the thread containing a video of their heroes, boko haram fighters, killed by the nigerian army.

Pained souls. cheesy
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Bla bla bla bla bla..... grin
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Technocracy: 1:47pm On Jan 02, 2017
After killing the people you still give them conditions for peace is so unheard of fulani fulani fulani the Gods are wisė Buhari is solidly behind you Elrufai is on ground making sure the task of annihilation is successful Nigeria is watching International community is watching history is watching.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Decryptor(m): 1:52pm On Jan 02, 2017
Corrinthians:
As usual, nnamdi kanu's zombies would be the first to arrive a thread like this and pour brown smelly spittle everywhere. grin grin

They were nowhere to be found on the thread containing a video of their heroes, boko haram fighters, killed by the nigerian army.

Pained souls. cheesy
May your family members encounter fulanis and be given the same treatment!
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Dav24(m): 2:04pm On Jan 02, 2017
I think El rufai said the fulanis attacking southern kaduna were from mali and chad, Buhari agreed with him on this and now the culprits and talking . If our leaders can be so sectional and tribalistic like this two, there will be no any other tribe in Nigeria
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Corrinthians(m): 2:30pm On Jan 02, 2017
Decryptor:
May your family members encounter fulanis and be given the same treatment!
Nnamdi Kanu Zombies cum ipob yoots are always sad, angry, and miserable. I just dont know why.. cheesy

Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Mutuwa(m): 2:56pm On Jan 02, 2017
ganye1:
This is why it is good to listen to both sides to a story. The secretary told their story and non of the comments above has shown any sympathy to their loses and this attitude is the general way Nigerians treat issues of attacks on the Fulanis. Attacks on the Fulanis largely go unreported by the Nigerian mass media. The secretary mentioned specific attacks on the Fulanis, the loses they have suffered as a result and measures they took to avert crisis but all all have been ignored. The people of southern Kaduna should take actions that are geared towards restoring peace to the area and not listen those calling for retaliation because if it comes to fighting the nomads clearly have the advantage.
This is what they will never believe,but is a fact apparent.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by obataokenwa(m): 3:07pm On Jan 02, 2017
ephi123:
Same thing I guess you will say with the baboons soaked in blood comment that led to election violence which resulted in some corpers losing their lives.

Is he the first or the only one who makes speeches? Why is it only his speech that ends up being "misrepresented by the media" time and again?

I maintain my stand that his utterances have been very divisive. A man who talks when he should keep quiet, and keeps quiet when he should speak.
Nice one.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Everfrank(m): 3:16pm On Jan 02, 2017
Ignore the fulani with the wave of a hand at your own peril. They don't have newspapers to report their casualties. But they are being killed as the man reports. The solution is to forgive and forge ahead. None of the tribes fighting the fulani are up to them in numerical strength and toughness. You can't finish them no matter how hard your campaign.
I didn't abuse anybody here. But let the born trowey children go ahead and abuse me for saying the obvious. Fulani must survive!
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by hugafella(m): 5:59pm On Jan 02, 2017
calaway:
WATCHING POSTS OF HEARTLESS DEVIL WORSHIPERS RISING IN DEFENSE OF HERDSMEN WHO KILL CHILDREN AND WOMEN IN THEIR SLEEP TO SACK THEM FROM THEIR ANCESTRAL HOMES AND LAND WHICH THEY LATER OCCUPY.

FROM THE MIDDLE BELT TO THE SOUTH SOUTH THE BLOOD THIRST OF THE HEAVILY ARMED FULANI HERDSMEN HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCED FIRST HAND....

GOD WILL PUNISH ALL OF U!!!!
AMEN!!!!!!
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by adanny01(m): 7:44pm On Jan 02, 2017
Nasman:
Well, it up to the Youths of Southern Kaduna. If they can't stop killing our Fulani folks for no reason. This cycle of violence will never end. I'm a 100% blooded Fulani man. I know how we treat vengeance. The root cause of this crisis is nothing short of vengeance. The host Community comitted wicked act on the Fulani and their properties. This wickedness go unreported by media. Now that the Fulani are out there to take their vengeance, all of a sudden hell break loose. Even myself I'm a afraid of hurting my Fulani folks. Cos I know what revenge is to them. Plus, Fulani herdsmen are very good at minding their business. But if you provoke them, you have yourself to blame. Let's all hope this cycle of violence will end. Even in Central and Northern Kaduna, Hausa farmers face the same problem with the Fulani herdsmen, but because understanding and mutual respect it rarely lead to bloodshed.
Southern Kaduna ppl are farmers, Fulani's are hearders. Where do you think the crisis started?

Its simple, after what happened in plateau state between Fulani herders and Berom herders, other Fulani became bold especially their youth. They started herding cattle into farms daring and beating farmers that protest. Last time I checked, farmers did request Fulani to settle on their lands to deposit manure on the farms, so its to the farmers benefit to have Fulani graze on farms. But the youths would intentionally destroy farm produce leading to fracas. During those initial stages, I have never heard of farmers going after Fulani to revenge on crops destroyed. It is the Fulani that go about with machetes and sticks who kill or maim farmers that protest destruction of their farms. The resulting issues led to farmers going to farms preparied to defend themselves from known violent Fulani youths

In my village, the Fulani ardo had to banish one of their boys whom his father payed damages to my uncle but the boy swore to kill my uncle. He trailed and ambushed my uncle, shot him but my uncle escaped with flesh wound. My uncle reported to the Fulani ardo who banished the boy to an unknown destination. The boy still sent a message to my uncle saying that he will seek for his head no matter how long it takes him.

I know 2 Fulani youths that my village boys caught each with an ak47 and handed to police with serious intervention from community leaders for their lives. The boys were returned to the ardo 2weeks later even after their case went to the commissioner of police. The village was attacked a month later. If it were our boys caught with such weapons, they would never see freedom for years.

The conspiracy to deny Justice is the fuel to this crisis. It is mostly the farmers that suffer injustice and the Fulani are always the agressors.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by blantyre: 7:47pm On Jan 02, 2017
texazzpete:
I asked a friend about all these claims of the herdsmen.

He's a detribalized, neutral Nigerian who runs a research institute.

Here's his response.
I don't run any research institute, I am a hausa Muslim and I considered myself detribalized as well. The truth of the matter is that the present style of grazing by the fulani where cows are allowed to roam about will definitely put them at loggerheads with not just southern Christians but Muslim hausa farmers as well and instances of such clashes have well been documented. On the present clashes in southern Kaduna I observed that locals are quick to kill not only fulanis but hausas as well in the event of any misunderstanding or trampling on farmlands which could ordinarily be settled amicably. Mere mentioned of a hausa or fulani Muslim in any issue is enough to shed his blood without minding what caused the problem in the first place. And it is not just fulani that are being targeted on federal roads and killed but hausas as well or any person wearing the look of a Muslim. I lost a distant relative to such crises who was traveling to his place of construction work along with two other friends in the same southern Kaduna. Only one of them managed and escaped to tell the story and as it is now, no muslim will dare travel through the area because even though it is purely with nomads, the locals don't waste time to turn it to a kind of religious crises where anyone that looks muslim got killed. So in other to minimize such clashes, fulanis must adopt a ranch method and locals must learn to seek justice through law enforcement agencies and their traditional institutions to get adequate compensations for damages done by cattles
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by Cityguy: 8:47pm On Jan 02, 2017
The solution to this madness is towing the path of Oshokomole Governor Ayodele Fayose. Believe you me, if all state governments in this South institute similar measures to protect their people, this madness will be checkmated. Unfortunately, most don't have the political will and for that, their people will continue to suffer.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by robertogun(m): 9:17pm On Jan 02, 2017
Nasman:
Well, it up to the Youths of Southern Kaduna. If they can't stop killing our Fulani folks for no reason. This cycle of violence will never end. I'm a 100% blooded Fulani man. I know how we treat vengeance. The root cause of this crisis is nothing short of vengeance. The host Community comitted wicked act on the Fulani and their properties. This wickedness go unreported by media. Now that the Fulani are out there to take their vengeance, all of a sudden hell break loose. Even myself I'm a afraid of hurting my Fulani folks. Cos I know what revenge is to them. Plus, Fulani herdsmen are very good at minding their business. But if you provoke them, you have yourself to blame. Let's all hope this cycle of violence will end. Even in Central and Northern Kaduna, Hausa farmers face the same problem with the Fulani herdsmen, but because understanding and mutual respect it rarely lead to bloodshed.
Hi Nasman. I don't know anything about the Fulani culture but it seems you guys have a big problem with a very simple solution. The problem is that pastoral cattle rearing is no longer working n feasible like in the days of old and the simplest solution is ranching but ur brothers still continue to graze on peoples farmland. Logically, the north has the biggest land mass to support ranching but you guys still engage in pastoral farming and when either by mistake or intentionally you encroach on peoples farmland, there will be a violent confrontation of accusations and counter accusations. The US have cows in ranches, the Argentines have cows in ranches and as far as I m concerned, their cornedbeef is the best. Why can't your Fulani brothers be innovative, rear your cattle's in ranches and export it to the south where demand is? Nasman, kindly add your insight on my logic and let every one here on nairaland know the merits and demerits of my idea because the bloodshed is getting too much over cattle and farmland.
Re: Fulani Cattle Breeders List Condition For Peace In Southern Kaduna by robertogun(m): 9:23pm On Jan 02, 2017
blantyre:
I don't run any research institute, I am a hausa Muslim and I considered myself detribalized as well. The truth of the matter is that the present style of grazing by the fulani where cows are allowed to roam about will definitely put them at loggerheads with not just southern Christians but Muslim hausa farmers as well and instances of such clashes have well been documented. On the present clashes in southern Kaduna I observed that locals are quick to kill not only fulanis but hausas as well in the event of any misunderstanding or trampling on farmlands which could ordinarily be settled amicably. Mere mentioned of a hausa or fulani Muslim in any issue is enough to shed his blood without minding what caused the problem in the first place. And it is not just fulani that are being targeted on federal roads and killed but hausas as well or any person wearing the look of a Muslim. I lost a distant relative to such crises who was traveling to his place of construction work along with two other friends in the same southern Kaduna. Only one of them managed and escaped to tell the story and as it is now, no muslim will dare travel through the area because even though it is purely with nomads, the locals don't waste time to turn it to a kind of religious crises where anyone that looks muslim got killed. So in other to minimize such clashes, fulanis must adopt a ranch method and locals must learn to seek justice through law enforcement agencies and their traditional institutions to get adequate compensations for damages done by cattles
Shikena!
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