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Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by randomperson: 3:52pm On Jan 04, 2017
DoctorAlien:
Oh, you're the one that said it? grin How is it bad for the child?
How is getting your eye eating by a worm bad for you?? Seriously?? So a person going blind is good... I wonder why Jesus was healing the blind then...
But I need you to say this... "A child's eye been eaten by an insect is good for the child"... Remember, u would have children, if u don't already
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by DoctorAlien(m): 3:54pm On Jan 04, 2017
randomperson:
How is getting your eye eating by a worm bad for you?? Seriously?? So a person going blind is good... I wonder why Jesus was healing the blind then...
But I need you to say this... "A child's eye been eaten by an insect is good for the child"... Remember, u would have children, if u don't already
Aww, how emotional grin

But don't veer off the track yet.

How is it bad for the child?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by randomperson: 3:55pm On Jan 04, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Death is a part of life .
Why am I not surprised?? U also claim god sending two bears to devour 42 children is a good thing.
Besides, when you say "death is part of life", what point does that suggest or prove really??
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by dalaman: 3:56pm On Jan 04, 2017
4everGod:
So since even in the variants of human laws worldwide all they are trying to do is define their own version of right and wrong then why do we even have these attempts at defining right and wrong in human laws if we all were born to just "live".

Why do all the nations and religions of the world still have this issue of trying to define right and wrong in their own ways? Why do we not just "exist"?
We can not just exist without some form of checks and balances. That is where morality springs up from, because we are social beings who interact with one another.
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by randomperson: 3:56pm On Jan 04, 2017
DoctorAlien:
Aww, how emotional grin

But don't veer off the track yet.

How is it bad for the child?
A child going blind is bad for the child...
Is the ability to see good? Yes
So inability to see is bad...
See, even logic shows it
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by DoctorAlien(m): 3:58pm On Jan 04, 2017
randomperson:
Why are u repeating questions?? Is the ability to see good?? Or are u claiming nothing is really good or bad??
Why should the child live with his/her sight?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by felixomor: 3:58pm On Jan 04, 2017
randomperson:
A child going blind is bad for the child...
Is the ability to see good? Yes
So inability to see is bad...
See, even logic shows it
Is atheism good?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by randomperson: 4:01pm On Jan 04, 2017
DoctorAlien:
How is going blind bad for the child?
Why are u repeating questions?? Is the ability to see good?? Or are u claiming nothing is really good or bad??
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by randomperson: 4:02pm On Jan 04, 2017
felixomor:
Is atheism good?
Uhmmm... Yes??
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(op): 4:03pm On Jan 04, 2017
randomperson:
Someone who is perfect can only do perfect things... Or are u claiming there are some of God's actions that are flawed?? grin
The system is functional but not perfect, snow blizzards, tsunamis and earthquakes kill people... A perfect god will be able to create a functional universe without those natural disasters...
A prescient God cannot make mistakes

I just answered your question . That God plans to revamp the universe but necessarily to make it perfect .

These so called Natural Disasters help make earth more habitable for advanced life while they also check population . And this supposedly poor or flawed designs have advantages . A popular example is the sickle cell anemia and malaria .

And there is counterexample which is the snowflake which has been described as an impeccable design this counterexample destroys your argument from poor design .

And theistic evolutionists aver that natural selection eliminates supposed flaw design .
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by felixomor: 4:04pm On Jan 04, 2017
randomperson:
Uhmmm... Yes??
Meaning Theism is evil?
Right?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by DoctorAlien(m): 4:04pm On Jan 04, 2017
randomperson:
Why are u repeating questions?? Is the ability to see good?? Or are u claiming nothing is really good or bad??
Why should the child live with his/her sight?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by randomperson: 4:05pm On Jan 04, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
A prescient God cannot make mistakes

I just answered your question . That God plans to revamp the universe but necessarily to make it perfect .

These so called Natural Disasters help make earth more habitable for advanced life while they also check population . And this supposedly poor or flawed designs have advantages . A popular example is the sickle cell anemia and malaria .

And there is counterexample which is the snowflake which has been described as an impeccable design this counterexample destroys your argument from poor design .

And theistic evolutionists aver that natural selection eliminates supposed flaw design .
Why are we cycling back... Natural disasters have benefits, right?
Could god have created those benefits without those disasters? Yes or no??
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by randomperson: 4:09pm On Jan 04, 2017
felixomor:
Meaning Theism is evil?
Right?
No... I already explained to you, atheism is not merely a belief that there's no god, it's basically a lack of belief that there's god...
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(op): 4:10pm On Jan 04, 2017
randomperson:
Why are we cycling back... Natural disasters have benefits, right?
Could god have created those benefits without those disasters? Yes or no??
I just told you that God will revamp the universe . That means a totally new system of functionality , complexity and order will be implemented . God can do something a thousand different ways and still get the result he desires.

This is redolent of the argument from desire .
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by randomperson: 4:10pm On Jan 04, 2017
DoctorAlien:
Why should the child live with his/her sight?
You're just asking ridiculous questions... If u are seriously asking why a human being should have sight...
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by randomperson: 4:11pm On Jan 04, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
I just told you that God will revamp the universe . That means a totally new system of functionality , complexity and order will be implemented . God can do something a thousand different ways and still get the result he desires.

This is redolent of the argument from desire .
Hmmmm.... So god didn't get it right the first time??
U didn't answer my yes or no question
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by DoctorAlien(m): 4:13pm On Jan 04, 2017
randomperson:
You're just asking ridiculous questions... If u are seriously asking why a human being stupid have sight...
grin grin Why should the child live with his/her sight?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by randomperson: 4:16pm On Jan 04, 2017
DoctorAlien:
grin grin Why should the child live with his/her sight?
Okay... I agree, a child shouldn't live with his sight. Satisfied?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(op): 4:18pm On Jan 04, 2017
randomperson:
No... I already explained to you, atheism is not merely a belief that there's no god, it's basically a lack of belief that there's god...
I'm not sure why you people are fixated on this 'lack of belief' definition .

It makes babies and people who have no knowledge of God atheists . But it is wrong

1. Babies are born with a tabula rasa - a clean slate . They don't have the will or power to believe and consciously accept or reject the existence of God .

2. The lack of belief definition was first suggested by Baron d'Holbach and embellished by George Smith,it has been criticized as false and deceptive

3. For you to be a theist , you have to consciously and explicitly acknowledge God . Since theism is the opposite atheism then you have consciously and explicit reject the existence of God

You have to understand that here's the idea or knowledge of God , I don't agree with it , I refuse to acknowledge such a thing . Then I am now an atheist .
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(op): 4:19pm On Jan 04, 2017
randomperson:
Hmmmm.... So god didn't get it right the first time??
U didn't answer my yes or no question
God created this system to get results and when this is achieved a new system will be implemented for the next events to unfold .
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by felixomor: 4:22pm On Jan 04, 2017
randomperson:
No... I already explained to you, atheism is not merely a belief that there's no god, it's basically a lack of belief that there's god...
What is the opppsite of your "atheism" version?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by randomperson: 4:22pm On Jan 04, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
God created this system to get results and when this is achieved a new system will be implemented for the next events to unfold .
We're saying the same thing... God didn't get it right the first time.
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by KingEbukasBlog(op): 4:23pm On Jan 04, 2017
randomperson:
We're saying the same thing... God didn't get it right the first time.
How does it mean that God didn't get it the right time huh
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by DoctorAlien(m): 4:23pm On Jan 04, 2017
randomperson:
Okay... I agree, a child shouldn't live with his sight. Satisfied?
grin grin

Without GOD/If you claim GOD does not exist, whatever you call evil has every reason to exist. That's what I've just shown you.
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by randomperson: 4:25pm On Jan 04, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
I'm not sure why you people are fixated on this 'lack of belief' definition .

It makes babies and people who have no knowledge of God atheists . But it is wrong

1. Babies are born with a tabula rasa - a clean slate . They don't have the will or power to believe and consciously accept or reject the existence of God .

2. The lack of belief definition was first suggested by Baron d'Holbach and embellished by George Smith,it has been criticized as false and deceptive

3. For you to be a theist , you have to consciously and explicitly acknowledge God . Since theism is the opposite atheism then you have consciously and explicit reject the existence of God

You have to understand that here's the idea or knowledge of God , I don't agree with it , I refuse to acknowledge such a thing . Then I am now an atheist .
It has been criticized as false and deceptive?? Well, the dictionaries and encyclopedias still contain that definition of atheism... Your criticism doesn't change that...
Anyways, rejection of the belief that God exists is not the same thing as belief that God doesn't exists
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by randomperson: 4:26pm On Jan 04, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
How does it mean that God didn't get it the right time huh
God intentionally created a system where many people get killed pointlessly... If that was what he was gunning for, then he's not a good god
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by felixomor: 4:27pm On Jan 04, 2017
randomperson:
It has been criticized as false and deceptive?? Well, the dictionaries and encyclopedias still contain that definition of atheism... Your criticism doesn't change that...
Anyways, rejection of the belief that God exists is not the same thing as belief that God doesn't exists
What is the opppsite or Antonym of your atheism version?
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by randomperson: 4:27pm On Jan 04, 2017
DoctorAlien:
grin grin

Without GOD, whatever you call evil has every reason to exist. That's what I've just shown you.
No... U didn't show anything. Or maybe I didn't get it. Come again, please
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by randomperson: 4:29pm On Jan 04, 2017
felixomor:
What is the opppsite or Antonym of your atheism version?
Theism... What point are u trying to prove?? If u want to say a child losing his eyesight is good, just come out and say it...
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by DoctorAlien(m): 4:30pm On Jan 04, 2017
randomperson:
No... U didn't show anything. Or maybe I didn't get it. Come again, please
randomperson:
Okay... I agree, a child shouldn't live with his sight.
grin grin grin grin
Re: Conclusion : Atheism Is So Illogical , The Atheist Delusion by randomperson: 4:33pm On Jan 04, 2017
DoctorAlien:
grin grin grin grin
U don't recognize sarcasm?? That's sad sad
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