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randomperson:
Theism... What point are u trying to prove?? If u want to say a child losing his eyesight is good, just come out and say it...

U said eyesight is good therefore blindness is bad.

If the opposite of what u claim to do(rejection of belief) is good, why do u deny its opposite is not evil?

randomperson:
Anyways, rejection of the belief that God exists is not the same thing as belief that God doesn't exists

A says that he believes or insists there's a cat in box and B rejects this belief or assertion , it means that

1. B is not certain that a cat is inside the box

2. B believes or insists there is no cat in the box


From 1 can be the agnostic stand

From 2 can be atheist stand

randomperson:
U don't recognize sarcasm?? That's sad

Please, keep sarcasm aside: why should the child live with his/her sight?

randomperson:
God intentionally created a system where many people get killed pointlessly... If that was what he was gunning for, then he's not a good god

Death is a part of Life . Death to the physical body only frees or eternizes the spirit .

And when life forms die they help in the continuation of the sustenance of other life forms

Isn't the cycle of life ?

Cycle of life is a complex orderly and functional system .

felixomor:
U said eyesight is good therefore blindness is bad.

If the opposite of what u claim to do(rejection of belief) is good, why do u deny its opposite is not evil?

So u are saying a child being blind is good, yes or no?

KingEbukasBlog:
Death is a part of Life . Death to the physical body only frees or eternizes the spirit .

And when life forms die they help in the continuation of the sustenance of other life forms

Isn't the cycle of life ?

Cycle of life is a complex orderly and functional system .

By your logic, we can drown children to free or eternize them... Andrea Yates style

randomperson:
By your logic, we can drown children to free or eternize them... Andrea Yates style

Mtcheew

Shifting the goal post as usual .




Can any atheist show that atheism is not illogical . You atheists are embarrassing yourselves here .

randomperson:
So u are saying a child being blind is good, yes or no?

U av not told me why the opposite of what u call good(rejection) is not bad ..
So right now, i dont know what u call "bad"

I dont think "bad" exists to u.

DoctorAlien:
Please, keep sarcasm aside: why should the child live with his/her sight?

So that he can see...
Now you will ask... Why should the child see?? Right?

randomperson:
So that he can see... Now you will ask... Why should the child see?? Right?

You guessed that right: why should the child see?

KingEbukasBlog:
Mtcheew

Shifting the goal post as usual .




Can any atheist show that atheism is not illogical . You atheists are embarrassing yourselves here .

Atheists are embarrassing themselves?? ... U like just making declarations and repeating them until u believe them... Nice try tho'

Atheists have now seen why we say they dont have business with morality nor "good vs bad" discussions.

They cant even say that the opposite of what they call good is bad.

KingEbukasblog, please take note.

randomperson:
Atheists are embarrassing themselves?? ... U like just making declarations and repeating them until u believe them... Nice try tho'

Lol . There is no need to believe evidence and facts

felixomor:
Atheists have now seen why we say they dont have business with morality nor "good vs bad" discussions.

They cant even say that the opposite of what they call good is bad.

KingEbukasblog, please take note.

Noted bro

KingEbukasBlog:
A says that he believes or insists there's a cat in box and B rejects this belief or assertion , it means that

1. B is not certain that a cat is inside the box

2. B believes or insists there is no cat in the box


From 1 can be the agnostic stand

From 2 can be atheist stand

So why do definitions of atheism contain rejection of belief in god??

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol . There is no need to believe evidence and facts

Am sorry which evidence or which fact??

randomperson:
So why do definitions of atheism contain rejection of belief in god??

Atheism is the belief there is no God or you can say that atheism is the explicit conscious and rejection of God(s)

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheism is the belief there is no God or you can say that atheism is explicit conscious rejection of God(s)

So the dictionary definitions are incorrect, including the one felixomor quoted

DoctorAlien:
You guessed that right: why should the child see?

Kk

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheism is the belief there is no God or you can say that atheism is the explicit conscious and rejection of God(s)

I even used the root greek word "a-theos" (meaning without or No God).

The guy no gree my brother.

felixomor:
U av not told me why the opposite of what u call good(rejection) is not bad ..
So right now, i dont know what u call "bad"

I dont think "bad" exists to u.

Of course bad exists... Does it exist to you??

randomperson:
So the dictionary definitions are incorrect, including the one felixomor quoted

Guy my dictionary showed u the greek root word, u refused to acknowledge.

I dont know why u r mentioning me when u refused to heed me

felixomor:
I even used the root greek word "a-theos" (meaning without or No God).

The guy no gree my brother.

Even the dictionary definition u quoted doesn't agree with u.. And etymology doesn't always reveal the actual current meaning of a word

dalaman:
We can not just exist without some form of checks and balances. That is where morality springs up from, because we are social beings who interact with one another.

Now so if we need checks and balances and you say morality is based on human laws then how come the same humans who put forward these laws as a form of checks and balances also end up breaking the same laws the put up for checks and balances?

Can you say that the human law givers actually got it right and their efforts at creating actual checks and balances is a perfect one?

felixomor:
Guy my dictionary showed u the greek root word, u refused to acknowledge.

I dont know why u r mentioning me when u refused to heed me

Etymology doesn't always reveal the current implications of a word.... And the definition u quoted had this: "Or lack of belief that God exists"

randomperson:
Am sorry which evidence or which fact??

1. That the universe is designed and that is evident of a designer in the Teleological Argument

2. Another evidence is that the universe began to exist and this evidence affirms premise 2 which logically follows premise 3 of the Cosmological Argument :Therefore the universe has a cause . And since the universe has a cause, the external cause (God) is its creator

3. We have agreed that objective moral values and duties exist and this affirms premise 3 in the Moral Argument : Therefore , God exists

But I'm disappointed . I was expecting so much talk on science and philosophy so that we can all learn .

But its page 15 and an atheist doesn't even understand or know the definition of atheism .

Anyway can we proceed to the

4 Ontological Argument

5 Leibniz Contingency Argument

You can study them and table your rebuttal .

felixomor:
I even used the root greek word "a-theos" (meaning without or No God).

The guy no gree my brother.

Its very funny sha

An atheist who does not know the definition of atheism

randomperson:
Etymology doesn't always reveal the current implications of a word.... And the definition u quoted had this: "Or lack of belief that God exists"

The same OR used in Twelve OR a dozen?

Atheism, is a greek word derivative.

And it is mutually exclusive and contradictory to Theism.

U can only but suit urself.

randomperson:
Even the dictionary definition u quoted doesn't agree with u.. And etymology doesn't always reveal the actual current meaning of a word

In this case, entomology does.
Sorry

KingEbukasBlog:
Its very funny sha

An atheist who does not know the definition of atheism

The "wise" atheists carefully gave this thread a wide berth.

KingEbukasBlog:
1. That the universe is designed and that is evident of a designer in the Teleological Argument

2. Another evidence is that the universe began to exist and this evidence affirms premise 2 which logically follows premise 3 of the Cosmological Argument :Therefore the universe has a cause . And since the universe has a cause, the external cause (God) is its creator

3. We have agreed that objective moral values and duties exist and this affirms premise 3 in the Moral Argument : Therefore , God exists

But I'm disappointed . I was expecting so much talk on science and philosophy so that we can all learn .

But its page 15 and an atheist doesn't even understand or know the definition of atheism .

Anyway can we proceed to the

4 Ontological Argument

5 Leibniz Contingency Argument

You can study them and table your rebuttal .

*yawns* ... Your definition of atheism has no bearing on what it actually is... And it's totally irrelevant in the light of actual authoritative definitions... So nice try... Both the moral argument and cosmological arguments have been rubbished, there's no point beating a dead dog

felixomor:
In this case, entomology does.
Sorry

Really?? Why in this case and not in every other case??