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Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 8:29am On Jan 05, 2017 |
Hello everyone ? So last year via the usual arguments...i got into one with a known Theist here--4everGod long story short. This thread as the title sugggests is to show that over the years...the religious have done more harm than good to humanity in their quest for total domination and all that In my findings i came across so many horrors done by the ideologies and adherrents of just a single religious sect--Christianity......that i couldnt take it anymore and had to stop...like for real In my little research,,,i came across about 400 Million deaths caused by this sect---Christianity Yes!... i sincerely hope none of you were shocked by that statement... So how to present it has been crawling in my head for sometime now...so please ''Manage'' this new years present from me.. I'd list them out first... Then in subsequent posts...i'd provide the links to my statements.. For Goodness sake..i wont list events with death tolls lower than a hundred thousand....although thats were the total number of attrocities gets really plenty such as the dirty war's 30k deaths, vitalians rebellion of 65,000 deaths,,the anglo-spanish wars of 50k+ deaths the hussite wars of >20,000 deaths etc ...and if anyone has a problem with anything listed...simply state it..and i'd show how it is ''christian''. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by Wilgrea7(m): 9:12am On Jan 05, 2017 |
i don't know of up to 400 million deaths... can you please expatiate.... let me learn... please list the 400 million deaths caused by Christians ... not jews o... if you want to accuse the jews go to Israel and tell the PM or something... so..... let me know how Christians caused 400 million deaths... over to you sir 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 9:27am On Jan 05, 2017 |
Religious Wars:. .Taiping Rebellion :100Million deaths. .World war I : 20Million deaths. .Vietnam war: 3.8 Million deaths. .538CE Massacre at Milan By Arians: 300,000 catholics killed. .The Albigensian Crusade or Cathar Crusade 1Million deaths. .Crusades(1st -9th) : 3M deaths. .535-554: Gothic Wars: 5.0Million deaths . .790-1300: Reconquista: 7.0Million deaths. .1562-1598: French Wars of Religion: 3Million deaths. .1568-1648: Dutch Revolt: 1Million deaths. .1554-1721: The Northern Wars:2Milllion deaths. .1763-1864: Russian-Circassian War: 1Million deaths. .1792-1802: French Revolutionary Wars: 2Million deaths. .1803-1815: Napoleonic Wars: 3.5Million deaths. .Thirty Years War :11Milllion deaths. .1998-2003 Second congo war 5.4 Million deaths. .Seven Years War : 1.5Million deaths. .American Civil War 1.5Miillion deaths. .War of the three Kingdoms: 870,000 deaths. .Lord's Resistance Army: 500,000 deaths. .Nine Years War :680,000 deaths. .Christero War :250,000 deaths. .Great Turkish War:200,000 deaths (By the ''Holy league''). .German Peasants war: 100,000 deaths. .Russo-Turkish War: 500,000 deaths. .Bosnian War :250,000 deaths. .Arauco War:200,000 deaths. .Sudanese civil War :2Million deaths. .Lebanese Civil War:250,000 deaths. .Crimean Wars: 1Million deaths. .American Revolutionary wars 108,000...... .Franco-Dutch war(1672-1678):342,000 deaths. .Uprising of 1648-1657,Russia:150,000 Deaths. .Razin rebellion(1667-1671):100,000 deaths. .Haidamaka rebellion(1768-1769):200,000 deaths. . Etc . . Totalling : 179,700,000 deaths Modified |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 9:28am On Jan 05, 2017 |
Wilgrea7:who are jews? m talking christians! The idea of everything i'm doing is simple anybody and everybody does bad |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by Nobody: 9:34am On Jan 05, 2017 |
I want a comprehensive list MrMontella and your links pls. |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by Omudia11: 9:41am On Jan 05, 2017 |
Thrash as usual. How many times will it be emphasized that the crusaders were a resistance to the Islamic jihadists who wanted to conquer the world by slaughtering innocent citizens? So if in self defense you kill someone, it translates to a religious war right? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 10:05am On Jan 05, 2017 |
4everGod:of course you will get your links.. M just dividing the list for personal preference! |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by KingEbukasBlog(m): 10:44am On Jan 05, 2017 |
According to Wikipedia , a religious war is a war primarily caused or justified by differences in religion. Religious wars account for less than 2% of all people killed in warfare. This includes 3 million during the Crusades and 3,000 during the Inquisition Please ignore any form of attempt to misinform the public Here are the Top 5 religious wars Anything beside this snippet is spurious and dubious 2 Likes
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Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by Nobody: 11:01am On Jan 05, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: They love being dishonest that was why i asked him to ensure he drops his links. Well we dey wait 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 11:07am On Jan 05, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:have you heard of ''just war theory?'' or the ''divine right of kings'' these are doctrines of the catholic church bruh...so calm your mind... Absolute Monarchy has roots in religion |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 11:18am On Jan 05, 2017 |
4everGod:i never start una don begin they cry m taking my time on purpose... I have everything i need... Just want una to ''para'' first |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 11:52am On Jan 05, 2017 |
Inhuman Attrocities. .Witch hunts(All the Inquisitions): 100,000 deaths (a very generous estimate). .1954-present :Ethnic Conflict In Nagaland by a christian Terrorist Group :200,000 deaths caused... .Rwandan Genocide: 1Million deaths. .The Spanish slaughter of the saracens: 3Million deaths. .Francoist Repression 400,000 Deaths. .1882-1898: Conquests of Menelik II of Ethiopia: 5Million deaths. .french conquest of algeria 3Million deaths. .Religious Conquests of The Americas(North and South)15c-19c:75Milllion deaths. .Transatlantic slave Trade 17.8Million deaths. .1500-1900;Brazil,Amazon rubber companies,Portugese colonies in Africa,French Equatorial African colonies;Carribean sugar and cotton plantations, :10Million slaves worked to death. .Conquest of siberia by the cossacks:150,000 deaths. .Spanish Inquisition:350,000 deaths. .Totalling 113,200,000 deaths Modified |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 12:54pm On Jan 05, 2017 |
[Democides. .By Germany 1933-1945:21Million deaths(war deaths not inclusive). .European War Deaths(World War two)(1939-1935):28Million deaths. .Pre-20th century;Native American Indians 13.7Million deaths. .Thirty Years War 5.7Million deaths. .1900-1917Russian Tsardom Rule (Tsarists) 1.1Million deaths. .1885-1908:Congo Free state 15Million deaths. .1945-1948:Poland's Ethnic cleansing 1.6Million deaths. .c.850CE:Empress Theodora;100000 paulicanists executed. .1830-1903 :Venezuela Power struggles : 1Million deaths. .Ante Pavelic(Croatia, 1941-45):655,000 deaths. .Political dreams of Francisco Franco :1.4Million deaths. .Efrain Rios Montt's Delibrate genocides :260,000 deaths. .Chiang Kai-shek's anti-communist purge and massacre of civilians :10.2Million Deaths.. .Syngman Rhee's anti-communist purges:300,000 Deaths. .Portugese dictatorship(1926-1982):740,000 deaths.. .Russia 1598-1613(Time of troubles):5Million deaths. .America's directed bombing of civilians:700,000 deaths. .Totalling 100,459,000 deaths Modified |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 1:00pm On Jan 05, 2017 |
In total It sums up to over 400 Million deaths... In subsequent posts...i will provide the links for the figures....and like i said..who'ever has a problem with anything stated...should say so...and the linking will be done Modified |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by ScienceWatch: 8:54pm On Jan 06, 2017 |
MrMontella:Wars are fought for personal power to help prop up the elite. God and His power is firstly expressed without any doubts in His creation. Except for atheists,agnostics and others a creator God is easy to accept. I have come to realize that the real problem among religions of accepting the whole truth about Jesus Christ come mainly from the fearful clergy of all religions including the thousands of fake christian pastors. Their resistance to change comes from the fear of losing their own positions of power among their people and their illusion of status in society. Jesus Christ did not come to close down any religions, but to show them all the mind-blowing gifts of healing and demonic deliverance etc that a loving God is offering them if they can only believe that he was sent by the same god that they worship. Do you think it is reasonable for a jewish rabbi/ Imam/ pastor/ minister etc to deny their congregations the undeniable, superior personal benefits that God came to offer freely to the world through Jesus ? Instead of accepting the superior benefits that Jesus Christ gave them the Jewish Rabbi's rejected Him. Scientists are considering overwhelming scientifically verifiable evidence that there is a loving CREATOR, coming out of the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and two excellent sources of study, Emmanuel TV and youtube.com Emmanuel TV is a golden opportunity for all religions world wide to study in private and examine the evidence. They will make progress if they put aside their religious bias and racism. God is revealing Himself mightily through a black man. Examine the evidence not the man's color ! |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by Godstraight(m): 9:34pm On Jan 06, 2017 |
MrMontella:I don't need to be a Christian to find this post grossly ignorant and shallow,I beg you find a history book and read before fooling, world war 2,Spanish civil war,native genocide ,even wars in China ,recongista is what you call Christian war,majority of these wars have absolutely nothing to do with religion,they are rather irreligious 2 Likes |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 12:38pm On Jan 07, 2017 |
MrMontella:Black Book of communism page 468. www.freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Religious_Wars (documents are cited at ''taiping rebellions footnotes'') [url=www.centre-robert-schuman.org/userfiles/files/REPERES%20%E2%80%93%20module%201-1-1%20-%20explanatory%20notes%20%E2%80%93%20World%20War%20I%20casualties%20%E2%80%93%20EN.pdf]WorldwarI[/url] www.bmj.com/content/336/7659/1482 from vietnam war---Wikipedia source:Edward Gibbon, Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire;volume four online archive https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albigensian_Crusade https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war wars.findthedata.com/l/92/Gothic-War wars.findthedata.com/l/91/Reconquista https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Wars_of_Religion wars.findthedata.com/l/109/Dutch-Revolt https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Wars source:Shenfield, “The Circassians: A Forgotten Genocide?” in Levene and Roberts, The Massacre in History (Berghahn Book, 1999), p. 154 Online source:William Eckhardt, cited by World Military and Social Expenditures 1987-88 (12th ed., 1987) by Ruth Leger Sivard, [url=necrometrics.com/wars18c.htm#FrRev]online[/url] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleonic_wars_casualties https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_by_death_toll https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Congo_War source:Urlanis:Boris, Wars and Population (1971) pg45,pg226,pg282 [url=necrometrics.com/wars18c.htm#7YrW]online[/url] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War source:Charles Carlton, Going to the Wars: the experience of the British Civil Wars, 1638-1651 (1992)pg211-213 [url=necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm]British Isles,online[/url] [url=ploughshares.ca/pl_armedconflict/uganda-1987-2010/#Deaths]Uganda[/url] source:Levy, Jack, War in the Modern Great Power System (1983) [url=necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm]1688-1697[/url] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristero_War www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Great_Turkish_War http://www.encyclopedia.com/articlesnew/35982.html source:Brockett and Bliss, The Conquest of Turkey, or, the Decline and Fall of the Ottoman Empire, 1877–8 (Philadelphia: Hubbard Bros., 1878), p. 697[/url] www.necrometrics.com/wars19c.htm#RuTk77 https://www.state.gov/www/global/human_rights/1996_hrp_report/bosniahe.html https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arauco_War https://web.archive.org/web/20041210024759/http://www.refugees.org/news/crisis/sudan.htm . https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War [url=news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3640772.stm]BBC,2004[/url] source:[color=red]Louis Duncan, Medical Men in the American Revolution (1931) Page 373 [url=history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/rev/MedMen/default.html]online archive[/url] source:Levy, Jack, War in the Modern Great Power System (1983) [url=necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm#Franco-Dutch]online[/url] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmelnytsky_Uprising source:Richard Dunn, The Age of Religious Wars (1559-1715),rebellion in volga www.necrometrics.com/pre1700a.htm https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koliyivschyna . Etc . .
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Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 12:50pm On Jan 07, 2017 |
MrMontella:https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.TAB3.1.GIF http://www.humanrightsinitiative.org/publications/nl/articles/india/summer2004.pdf [url=news.nd.edu/news/11353-research-sheds-new-light-on-rwanda-killings/]University Of Michigan x Notre Dame[/url] www.cs.unc.edu/~plaisted/estimates.doc edward gibbon's book too https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francoist_repression https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_conquest_of_Siberia www.codesria.org/IMG/pdf/Mekuria_Bulcha.pdf https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_conquest_of_Algeria source:David Stannard,American Holocaust: The Conquest of the New World (Oxford University Press, 1992) www.worldfuturefund.org/Reports/Genocide/genocide.html [url=necrometrics.com/pre1700b.htm#African]Transatlantic:Africa[/url] https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.TAB3.1.GIF https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP2.HTM . https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.TAB3.1.GIF
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Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by randomperson: 2:29pm On Jan 07, 2017 |
Omudia11:Stop peddling falsehood... The Christians wanted to control Jerusalem... |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by Omudia11: 2:47pm On Jan 07, 2017 |
Your opinion is inconsequential to proven facts. randomperson: |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 1:36pm On Jan 08, 2017 |
The Most interesting part about this section is that i'm getting my source for over 90% of these democides directly from the creator of the word ''democide'' R.J Rummel MrMontella:https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NAZIS.CHAP1.HTM https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NAZIS.TAB1.1.GIF https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.TAB3.1.GIF https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.TAB17.1.GIF https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congo_Free_State https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.TAB7.2.GIF https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP7.HTM source:Edward gibbon,decline and fall of the roman empire,vol 5 www.sacred-texts.com/cla/gibbon/05/index.htm source:Scheina, Latin America's Wars: [url=rebrik.narod.ru/The_History_of_World_Civilisation_3-2.docx]online[/url] [url=necrometrics.com/wars19c.htm#Venez1830]venez[/url] www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.TAB1.5.GIF https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Civil_War https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Spain) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemalan_genocide#Genocide_under_R.C3.ADos_Montt https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/DBG.TAB1.4.GIF https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodo_League_massacre https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syngman_Rhee https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM source:Duffy & Ricci, Czars: Russia's Rulers for over One Thousand Years, p.174: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_of_Troubles https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP13.HTMh
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Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 2:22pm On Jan 08, 2017 |
4everGod:your comprehensive list and links are ready.. |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 2:25pm On Jan 08, 2017 |
Omudia11:so jesus's teachings are null in christianity right? I.e if someone slaps you,,turn the other cheek also... The crusades were religious....sanctioned and started by the pope... |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 2:26pm On Jan 08, 2017 |
Omudia11:what proven facts? |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 2:27pm On Jan 08, 2017 |
randomperson:dont mind him... Of all the wars...na crusades he wan justify.. Mehn..i received a number of bans in the process of creating this thread tho but am done now...patiently waiting for 4everGod and Kingebukasblog... I used most of thier ideologies on ''communism'' to fish out these stuffs |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 2:28pm On Jan 08, 2017 |
ScienceWatch:?? What is this? |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 2:36pm On Jan 08, 2017 |
Godstraight post=t52595196:the irony why are you angry? Is it because i fished out christians and christianity's henious crimes? world war 2where did i list out this as a religious war? Are you trying to accuse me falsely? likewise this... Why do you lie? i listed a genocide as a war? Or an attrocity? so because the taiping rebellion was in china...it cant be a christian war? Such a lame reasoning oh...maybe you should ask the authors of the encyclopedia of wars why they listed it as a religious war i dare you to list them out..let me disgrace you here... Maybe you dont know the church in rome sanctioned these |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by Godstraight(m): 2:55pm On Jan 08, 2017 |
MrMontella:Merlin's Beard you are so ignorant, you wrote Christian war but all am seeing here are world wars,civil wars, genocide atrocities that didn't even happen because of religious reasons ,and these are supposely christain wars,which bloody encyclepledia listed world wars,Spanish civil war and Congo civil as Christian wars? Bros define s Christian war |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 3:01pm On Jan 08, 2017 |
Godstraight:so listing the so called irreligious wars are a problem to you? And you're asking me ''which blooody encyclopedia'' why dont you take a simple google search on it and download the pdf.. |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by Godstraight(m): 3:03pm On Jan 08, 2017 |
Y MrMontella:the crusaders happen 1000 years but you still bitching around it,what stops a Christian apologist for list Mao revolution as an atheist war with the way you are reasoning,how is american civil war,French war of terror,Napoleonic wars and other countless f*cks are Christian war, Bros define a Christian war |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by MrMontella(m): 3:19pm On Jan 08, 2017 |
Godstraight:it was what pushed me to open this thread... it was based on an argument on slavery and the confederates justified their position on advocating slavery with the bible..saying eliminating slavery was taking away their divine rights instituted by the christian God i didnt list this...did i? Dont know what this is? Or do you mean the french wars of religion? napoleon wanted to restore the catholic house of bourbon to be the reigning monarchy in france...his defence was that the house are a direct descendant of st Louis Ix and so are the divinely instituted house please name them war fought for religious purposes,,,caused by religious beliefs or at least having roots in religious ideas. |
Re: Deaths By Religious Wars,democides And Attrocities Vs Those By The Irreligious by Godstraight(m): 3:21pm On Jan 08, 2017 |
MrMontella:you enclopedia just listed American civil war as a Christian war,please oga define a Christian war |
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