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MrMontella:
it was what pushed me to open this thread...


it was based on an argument on slavery and the confederates justified their position on advocating slavery with the bible..saying eliminating slavery was taking away their divine rights instituted by the christian God


i didnt list this...did i?

Dont know what this is?

Or do you mean the french wars of religion?


napoleon wanted to restore the catholic house of bourbon to be the reigning monarchy in france...his defence was that the house are a direct descendant of st Louis Ix and so are the divinely instituted house

please name them

war fought for religious purposes,,,caused by religious beliefs or at least having roots in religious ideas.

so the american civil war is a Christian war?no the French revolution how was it a Christian war when Napoleon invaded Spain what did he destroy Christianity or the monarchy?,French war of terror infact the whole French revolution was the most anti Christian war ever fought in Europe,started by explosion of ideas from philosophers like rataire(didn't spell it well)other guys famous philosophers,read about the reign of terror,dechristainization of France,napeolionic wars,american civil war,Congo civil war, reqonsista you even listed Sudanese civil war,the Crimean war?the Turkish war?world war 1?,kukuma add briafra jion am

Godstraight:
you enclopedia just listed American civil war as a Christian war,please oga define a Christian war

i said the reconquista....its similar to the crusades....just that it was done by rome and the majorly the byzantine empire


and i've defined it to an extent

MrMontella:
i said the reconquista....its similar to the crusades....just that it was done by rome and the majorly the byzantine empire


and i've defined it to an extent

stop being ignorant it was done by Spain and Portugal to recover the lands conquered by Muslim, since when is it a crime to defend and fight for your life,Google Islamic conquest, about the american civil war please I beg you in the name of Zeus stop being dump Google is ur friend I spent months reading that stuff it is a lot more complex than the shit you previously wrote how about pick a book and read ,I don't even know where to start explaining a war story from,now about the German-franco wars, explain your delusions, even the Crimean war

Godstraight:
so the american civil war is a Christian war?

i believe you saw my explanation

no the French revolution how was it a Christian war when Napoleon invaded Spain what did he destroy Christianity or the monarchy?

the french revolution was started by monarch louis xvI of france..not napoleon...he was a catholic monarch... And fought other christian monarchs...
He started the revolution under the guise of ''just war'' as his ''divine right'' gives him...these two things are doctrines in the catholic church...
2)the catholic church was a major power in french politics..and the ruling pope oversaw actions of its ruling monarchs...This is a documented fact..

Its the cause of the war that matters

French war of terror infact the whole French revolution was the most anti Christian war ever fought in Europe,started by explosion of ideas from philosophers like rataire(didn't spell it well)other guys famous philosophers,read about the reign of terror,dechristainization of France,

lies...the reign of terror is a period in the revolution...after louis xvi was overthrown

napeolionic wars

,
it was started by Great britian..
Who were under the ruling of a monarch..George III...a christian
and sought to restore the house of bourbon to its status in france..

american civil war,

are your intentions just to list whatever you like?

Congo civil war

i didnt list this,

reqonsista

i may start ignoring you

you even listed Sudanese civil war

names can be deceiving...it is a religious war..with christians at the forefront

the Crimean war?

oh yes...religious differences over religious groups ownership triggered the war...
Instigated by the russian orthordox tsar monarchs..

the Turkish war?

perhaps what i clearly stated evaded you...
It was started by the holy league...this was a league created by pope innocent...to trash out the ottaman empire

world war 1?

started by a religious nationalist group called Black Hand...
I can go deep into this if you want,

kukuma add briafra jion am

if i saw a definitive connection...i would

Godstraight:
stop being ignorant it was done by Spain and Portugal to recover the lands conquered by Muslim, since when is it a crime to defend and fight for your life,Google Islamic conquest,

i believe jesus said...
''If someone slaps you...turn the other cheek..''
my mistake on the belligerents

2) it was done and instigated by christians..thats the issue...
And its not ''protection''...it was ''control''..

about the american civil war please I beg you in the name of Zeus stop being dump Google is ur friend I spent months reading that stuff it is a lot more complex than the shit you previously wrote

i just made it simpler..because i wanted to avoid long talks..

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The sole cause of the war was differences on slavery.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War
dude..christianity was their animus...

The Confederates believed anti-slavery laws were a violation of both thier constitutional rights and their Bible installed right.. Even the constituional right was founded on the bible sef..

The confederate president,Jefferson Davis On slavery and his reason for his refusal to abolish it..


[Slavery] was established by decree of Almighty God...it is sanctioned in the Bible, in both Testaments, from Genesis
to Revelation...it has existed in all ages,has been found among the people of the highest civilization, and in nations of the highest proficiency in the arts — Jefferson Davis, President, Confederate States of America[118]


... the right of holding slaves is clearly established in the Holy Scriptures, both by precept and example —Richard Furman, President, South Carolina Baptist Convention(A Pastor)
source
https://www.kingscollege.net/gbrodie/The%20religious%20justification%20of%20slavery%20before%201830.pdf

how about pick a book and read ,I don't even know where to start explaining a war story from,now about the German-franco wars,

where did you see me include this

explain your delusions, even the Crimean war

wait..is it notable sites labelling them as ''religious wars'' that you want?

The crimean war is one of the most proficent wars with religious backgrounds..do the search yourself since you love google and love insults...
I cannot teach an insultive being

cheers

MrMontella:
i believe you saw my explanation

the french revolution was started by monarch louis xvI of france..not napoleon...he was a catholic monarch... And fought other christian monarchs...
He started the revolution under the guise of ''just war'' as his ''divine right'' gives him...these two things are doctrines in the catholic church...
2)the catholic church was a major power in french politics..and the ruling pope oversaw actions of its ruling monarchs...This is a documented fact..

Its the cause of the war that matters


lies...the reign of terror is a period in the revolution...after louis xvi was overthrown

,
it was started by Great britian..
Who were under the ruling of a monarch..George III...a christian
and sought to restore the house of bourbon to its status in france..


are your intentions just to list whatever you like?


i didnt list this,


i may start ignoring you


names can be deceiving...it is a religious war..with christians at the forefront


oh yes...religious differences over religious groups ownership triggered the war...
Instigated by the russian orthordox tsar monarchs..


perhaps what i clearly stated evaded you...
It was started by the holy league...this was a league created by pope innocent...to trash out the ottaman empire


started by a religious nationalist group called Black Hand...
I can go deep into this if you want,
if i saw a definitive connection...i would

pls you are ignorant ,American civil was wasn't even fought because of slavery it was more complex that read it up,Louis didn't start the revolution it ,the French masses revolted against him,because France was broke and the nobles, clergy,kings someone held all the money,the revolution at best was fight against those ideas, kings were killed,nobles were likewise and clergy men were stripped PFF their priveledges,world war started when an ambassador was assassinated, countries had different treaties with each other,I believe you have a lot of learning to do if you really believe this trash, stop revisioning history especially when do not know the original story,ww1 is a religious war gets you an instant F ,there are many poo you posted here that I don't have enough time to address,it is already boring as it is for zeus pick a damm book, or go to site like quora-ask about these wars you get response from well studied historian instead of posting falsehood,just imagine someone saying the civil war,ww 1 were religious wars,stop misinforming the public in the name of "militant atheism"

Bleep all communist and fascist mass murderers. I am an anti-communist, anti-fascist atheist, like most atheists on Nairaland and in the west.

Seun:
Bleep all communists and fascists. I am an anti-communist, anti-fascist atheist. Fortunately, most atheists on NL fall into this same category.

Mr suen we are both atheist but I an greatly displease by the misinformation on this thread imagine someone saying the american civil war,Napoleonic wars,ww1 were religious wars

Godstraight:
pls you are ignorant ,American civil was wasn't even fought because of slavery it

The war had its origin in the factious issue of slavery, especially the extension of slavery into the western territories...... The Confederacy collapsed and slavery was abolished....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

While most historians agree that
conflicts over slavery caused the war.........The primary catalyst for secession was slavery, especially Southern political leaders' resistance to attempts by Northern antislavery political forces
to block the expansion of slavery into the western territories

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_American_Civil_War

was more complex that read it up,Louis didn't start the revolution it ,the French masses revolted against him,because France was broke and the nobles, clergy,kings someone held all the money,the revolution at best was fight against those ideas, kings were killed,nobles were likewise and clergy men were stripped PFF their priveledges,

The Revolutionary Wars began... on King Louis XVI of France to prove his loyalty to the new direction France was taking.....France declared war on Prussia and Austria

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolutionary_Wars

world war started when an ambassador was assassinated, countries had different treaties with each other,I believe you have a lot of learning to do if you really believe this trash, stop revisioning history especially when do not know the original story,ww1 is a religious war gets you an instant F.

did you bother to check the group i gave you?
''black hand''
i gave you the definition of ''religious war''

even the perpetrators of the assasination...are honored with a feast day by the orthodox church...

The monarch who also declared war on serbia..is beautified by the catholic church...

there are many poo you posted here that I don't have enough time to address

why dont you list them out..

,it is already boring as it is for zeus pick a damm book, or go to site like quora-ask about these wars you get response from well studied historian instead of posting falsehood,just imagine someone saying the civil war,ww 1 were religious wars,stop misinforming the public in the name of "militant atheism"

so far..all you've done is to throw insults and ''talk''...no rebutting the evidences i've been bringing...

2)this thread is a form of personal thread..and im only using the ideology of my ''opponent''..

Seun:
Bleep all communists and fascists. I am an anti-communist, anti-fascist atheist. Fortunately, most atheists on NL fall into this same category.

the only political ideology i advocate is democracy.

MrMontella:
i believe jesus said...
''If someone slaps you...turn the other cheek..''
my mistake on the belligerents

2) it was done and instigated by christians..thats the issue...
And its not ''protection''...it was ''control''..

i just made it simpler..because i wanted to avoid long talks..

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you are mad you if someone invades Nigeria you won't fight back?,u mention that the reqouconaita was a religious when I took time to explain stuff to you starting spilling poo,dude read about the conquering of Spain by Muslim moors,
The sole cause of the war was differences on slavery.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War
dude..christianity was their animus...

The Confederates believed anti-slavery laws were a violation of both thier constitutional rights and their Bible installed right.. Even the constituional right was founded on the bible sef..

The confederate president,Jefferson Davis On slavery and his reason for his refusal to abolish it..


[Slavery] was established by decree of Almighty God...it is sanctioned in the Bible, in both Testaments, from Genesis
to Revelation...it has existed in all ages,has been found among the people of the highest civilization, and in nations of the highest proficiency in the arts — Jefferson Davis, President, Confederate States of America[118]


... the right of holding slaves is clearly established in the Holy Scriptures, both by precept and example —Richard Furman, President, South Carolina Baptist Convention(A Pastor)
source
https://www.kingscollege.net/gbrodie/The%20religious%20justification%20of%20slavery%20before%201830.pdf



where did you see me include this


wait..is it notable sites labelling them as ''religious wars'' that you want?

The crimean war is one of the most proficent wars with religious backgrounds..do the search yourself since you love google and love insults...
I cannot teach an insultive being

cheers

so despite my explain you still think the reqiuconsita was a religious war?,you initially said the pope had something to do with it?
the civil was started when the Confederates left the Union not because of slavery ,read anti -slavery books like uncle tom cabin,it was written by a Christian too,with a lot of bubble quotes too about how all men were equal, you must have missed that ,explain the Crimean wars in same pseudo historical ways you manage to list the civil war ,ww1as a religious war,please give American history site where they teach their civil war as a civil war,it seems I am the only keeping this propanganda thread alive,this is my last post on this thread I really don't care what you keeping telling yourself, there are people who believe the earth is flat

MrMontella:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_the_American_Civil_War




https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Revolutionary_Wars


did you bother to check the group i gave you?
''black hand''
i gave you the definition of ''religious war''

even the perpetrators of the assasination...are honored with a feast day by the orthodox church...

The monarch who also declared war on serbia..is beautified by the catholic church...


why dont you list them out..


so far..all you've done is to throw insults and ''talk''...no rebutting the evidences i've been bringing...

2)this thread is a form of personal thread..and im only using the ideology of my ''opponent''..

am tired of talking go to quora or any intelligent forum, to discus this stuff,ww1 didn't start because the poo you just posted it was a very non religious variety of reasons majority was because countries had treaties they had to keep ,

Godstraight:
so despite my explain you still think the reqiuconsita was a religious war?,you initially said the pope had something to do with it?

yes..the same way the pope gave/signed a treaty that gave the spaniards the right to embark on religious conquests of the americas that slaughtered up to 75 million people

the civil was started when the Confederates left the Union not because of slavery

they left because of differennces on views of slavery...i believe i've delivered links to that

read anti -slavery books like uncle tom cabin,it was written by a Christian too,with a lot of bubble quotes too about how all men were equal, you must have missed that..

was he a confederate?


[url=eweb.furman.edu/~benson/docs/rcd-fmn1.htm]Here's a book by a confederate christian advocating slavery..Richard Furman(a pastor)[/url]

explain the Crimean wars in same pseudo historical ways you manage to list the civil war ,ww1as a religious war

i wont explain...i'd just drop links to notable sites...i cant waste my strength for nothing
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/battles/crimea/

,please give American history site where they teach their civil war as a civil war,it seems I am the only keeping this propanganda thread alive

its a personal thread...
And my ''opponent'' is compiling his...i believe so

this is my last post on this thread I really don't care what you keeping telling yourself, there are people who believe the earth is flat

ok bye!

MrMontella:
yes..the same way the pope gave/signed a treaty that gave the spaniards the right to embark on religious conquests of the americas that slaughtered up to 75 million people

they left because of differennces on views of slavery...i believe i've delivered links to that


was he a confederate?


[url=eweb.furman.edu/~benson/docs/rcd-fmn1.htm]Here's a book by a confederate christian advocating slavery..Richard Furman(a pastor)[/url]
i wont explain...i'd just drop links to notable sites...i cant waste my strength for nothing
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/battles/crimea/

its a personal thread...
And my ''opponent'' is compiling his...i believe so


ok bye!

the Inquisition is what you should have mention not the reqiuconsista,majority was killed by European disease just like Europeans were killed by the disease during the black plague from Asia,
No a Christian northener like 100& of america was Christian if you bring some peeps from the south that justify slavery on their Christian belief they are equally northern Christian that opposed it, someone says egg is good using his tongue another says egg is bad using his same tongue,the other leaves the house because of the annoyance,and because he fears other peeps coming to the room that are about to be told egg is good,the remainer attacks the leaver,who is to blame for the conflict?,egg,tongue,the remainer,leaver!

So you believe in Jesus whenever it suits you right? So When christians kill in self defense it is a crime and when they "turn the other cheek" it is also a crime.

I repeat the crusaders were a resistance to the jihadists. When someone tries to use violence on you, do yourself a Favour and just stare.

MrMontella:
so jesus's teachings are null in christianity right? I.e if someone slaps you,,turn the other cheek

also...
The crusades were religious....sanctioned and started by the pope...

Try using Google.

MrMontella:
what proven facts?

Godstraight:
the Inquisition is what you should have mention not the reqiuconsista

the reconquista is a pure religious war baba

majority was killed by European disease just like Europeans were killed by the disease during the black plague from Asia

the introduction of these diseases were intentional...and i have prooof of it sire

No a Christian northener like 100& of america was Christian if you bring some peeps from the south that justify slavery on their Christian belief they are equally northern Christian that opposed it, someone says egg is good using his tongue another says egg is bad using his same tongue,the other leaves the house because of the annoyance,and because he fears other peeps coming to the room that are about to be told egg is good,the remainer attacks the leaver,who is to blame for the conflict?,egg,tongue,the remainer,leaver!

i dont get

Omudia11:
So you believe in Jesus whenever it suits you right? So When christians kill in self defense it is a crime and when they "turn the other cheek" it is also a crime.

I repeat the crusaders were a resistance to the jihadists. When someone tries to use violence on you, do yourself a Favour and just stare.

you're the person who's suppose to believe...

It was not a resistance of self defense per se...it was about control and percentage populace

Omudia11:
Try using Google.

?

MrMontella:
the reconquista is a pure religious war baba



the introduction of these diseases were intentional...and i have prooof of it sire

i dont get

the Spanish were immune even uninfomerd about the disease,this was a dark age people didn't even know about bacteria's and the science behind a disease talkless of controlling it,the black death is an example,wait do you think Jews were responsible for that because they actually brought rats from Asia through their trade,then the Christian missionaries who couldnt step in sub sahara Africa because they would die of African disease, they are many examples of disease transfer from one continent to another during the middle age,if the Spaniards intendendto wipe them it would have been with gun,European exploration was based on god,glory,gold not to wipe out people,am tired of the requiconsita issue,the Americans in the north and south were both Christians both used Christianity to defend their various stance,one said it has(slavery) been through out history and Bible stories the northeners said god created everyone equal,the south were thriving economically because of free labor the north didn't want that,the north block new states entering into the union from associating with slavery bla bla bla,the south left the fought a war to get the back in fact,www.UShistory.com

ScienceWatch:
Wars are fought for personal power to help prop up the elite. God and His power is firstly expressed without any doubts in His creation. Except for atheists,agnostics and others a creator God is easy to accept.

I have come to realize that the real problem among religions of accepting the whole truth about Jesus Christ come mainly from the fearful clergy of all religions including the thousands of fake christian pastors. Their resistance to change comes from the fear of losing their own positions of power among their people and their illusion of status in society.

Jesus Christ did not come to close down any religions, but to show them all the mind-blowing gifts of healing and demonic deliverance etc that a loving God is offering them if they can only believe that he was sent by the same god that they worship.

Do you think it is reasonable for a jewish rabbi/ Imam/ pastor/ minister etc to deny their congregations the undeniable, superior personal benefits that God came to offer freely to the world through Jesus ? Instead of accepting the superior benefits that Jesus Christ gave them the Jewish Rabbi's rejected Him.

Scientists are considering overwhelming scientifically verifiable evidence that there is a loving CREATOR, coming out of the Holy Scoan Church Nigeria and two excellent sources of study, Emmanuel TV and youtube.com

Emmanuel TV is a golden opportunity for all religions world wide to study in private and examine the evidence. They will make progress if they put aside their religious bias and racism. God is revealing Himself mightily through a black man. Examine the evidence not the man's color !

you started like a sane human being then went back to eat your own shit
Smh

Like I said earlier, your opinion is inconsequential to proven facts.

MrMontella:
you're the person who's suppose to believe...

It was not a resistance of self defense per se...it was about control and percentage populace

You keep on saying thrash

Godstraight:
the Spanish were immune even uninfomerd about the disease,this was a dark age people didn't even know about bacteria's and the science behind a disease talkless of controlling it,the black death is an example,wait do you think Jews were responsible for that because they actually brought rats from Asia through their trade,then the Christian missionaries who couldnt step in sub sahara Africa because they would die of African disease, they are many examples of disease transfer from one continent to another during the middle age,if the Spaniards intendendto wipe them it would have been with gun,European exploration was based on god,glory,gold not to wipe out people,am tired of the requiconsita issue,the Americans in the north and south were both Christians both used Christianity to defend their various stance,one said it has(slavery) been through out history and Bible stories the northeners said god created everyone equal,the south were thriving economically because of free labor the north didn't want that,the north block new states entering into the union from associating with slavery bla bla bla,the south left the fought a war to get the back in fact,www.UShistory.com

let me use smallpox as a case file..
the native americans feared small pox more than the white man's gun sef

you say the europeans were uninformed about the diseases...

Please look up who Lord General Jeffrey Amherst and Colonel Henry Bouquet are

There are documents(letters) between the two...conclude for yourself

"You will Do well to try to Innoculate the Indians by means of
Blanketts, as well as to try Every other method
that can serve to Extirpate this Execreble Race",
and instructing his subordinates

source

even william trent recorded in his journal cases of these delibrate disease introductions

......Out of our regard to them we gave them two Blankets and an
Handkerchief out of the Small Pox Hospital. I hope it will have the desired effect

source

history records many other cases of these by the spanish,,french,,the portugese!

Even cases of refusal to vaccinate the natives when they were aware of the presence of the unintentional ones..

Omudia11:
Like I said earlier, your opinion is inconsequential to proven facts.

lol..keep on joking

jonbellion:
you started like a sane human being then went back to eat your own shit
Smh

I realize that you are over sensitive . Thanks, you are very observant.

jonbellion:
you started like a sane human being then went back to eat your own shit
Smh

Can you rather tell us how you will end, JONBELLING. Starting is always full of problems, but be careful of the ending.

Dawkins' position as the godfather of the modern atheist movement has revived a question that's been percolating for at least three years: Has the famous scientist become more of a liability than an asset for the movement he helped create?

Christina said. `Dawkins seems to embody everything that people dislike about atheists. "He is the reason I call myself an atheist, and he's a big part of the reason I became an atheist activist," Christina said.

"Regretfully, I think Richard Dawkins has become a liability," atheist activist and author Greta Christina said in an email. She has shared a podium with Dawkins at two high-profile atheist events, including 2012′s Reason Rally in Washington, D.C., which attracted tens of thousands of people.

jonbellion:
you started like a sane human being then went back to eat your own shit
Smh

Just look at this idiots response to well presented facts. This is a fine example of an Atheist that true Atheists hate.

This type of Atheist is a dying breed. His behavior show that he knows it.

I am from a very large Atheist family and Atheist community, but we will never respond in this crude fashion. We dont go to religious forums uninvited. We avoid it. Atheism is our thing so we invite others to our blogs. Most Atheists are heartless so being rude to them has no effect.
It simply builds their low self-esteem.

Yesterday I said fuxck the supremely negative atheists here, and took the hint from that chap sciencewatch to investigate for myself if the miracles are true.

Hond:
Just look at this idiots response to well presented facts. This is a fine example of an Atheist that true Atheists hate.

This type of Atheist is a dying breed. His behavior show that he knows it.

I am from a very large Atheist family and Atheist community, but we will never respond in this crude fashion. We dont go to religious forums uninvited. We avoid it. Atheism is our thing so we invite others to our blogs. Most Atheists are heartless so being rude to them has no effect.
It simply builds their low self-esteem.

Yesterday I said fuxck the supremely negative atheists here, and took the hint from that chap sciencewatch to investigate for myself if the miracles are true.

uuuum
And you are