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agabusta:
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/160582-update-sanusi-floored-nigerian-government-frcn-court.html

Illegal immunity? His sack in itself was an illegality, that was not supported by 2/3rds majority of the senate. I can imagine the noise that will happen today, if Buhari was to replicate same towards Emefiele.

I don't recall that he was sacked.
I remember that he was running away from being prosecuted for the stealing.

If the exert below is true, then Buhari goofed

"Another source added that the Presidency found it curious that a regulation, which the Council could not implement during former President Goodluck Jonathan’s administration, was being enforced under Buhari.
“Although the regulation dated back to Jonathan’s administration, why did he fail to implement it and ask the religious leaders to resign? Why did the council wait till the present administration before insisting on its implementation?” the source asked."


The FRCN clearly stated that the churches took the agency to court on this matter and a verdict was gotten in October, 2016.
Obviously, that would be the reason why the FRCN boss communicated the commencement of its implementation to the Directors at a dinner in December.
Throughout Gej's period they were in court.
I only faulted the FRCN boss on how he failed to comprehensively carry the Minister along.
The president need to stop taking his minister's advices hook line and sinker. Most of them are only after their personal interest.
He needs to search for the facts and hold on to the truth

felixomor:
There are millions of religious people who are doing better than you.
I hope u know?

Besides, the likes of India and China u mentioned are also religious people. Yet they succeed, because they are better at leadership.

Your desire to turn religion to a punching bag for all, is the reason why we cant see that our problem is leadership, not religion.

don't mind the guy iis there no religion in Israel and China like Christianity is the only religion tell your govt do the right thing the only aspect I concur govt should tax them is on the area of schools or university or business built under religious body which is not free according to them(religious body).

agabusta:
Mynd44, OAM4J, lalasticlala, Seun it would be nice if publicity can be availed this report, which actually shows that the FRC Boss was being overzealous. This will put to rest all the allegations of persecution of the church.


This new report are excepts from the long report Punch earlier did.

It is possible he might belong to the faction of redeemed church that has for long being pressuring the GO to vacate office based on the church constitution or rule book. ....I think the GO was too quick to have restructured the structure of the church even though what he has done is strange to their constitution since their no place for Nigerian overseer or International seer

agabusta:
Why the thing come dey pain you like this na.

His appointment in the first instance is also tantamount to a type of payment for your information. And GEJ has paid your piper for a whooping 5 years, 2011 till date, and the question of where his loyalty swings should not be doubt.

More so, in light of the fact that he ignored an approval issued by PMB for action to be stayed on the released governance code. An approval sought by his superior, after he similarly ignored the directive issued by that superior, the Minister for Trade and investment.

My guy u get time oooo....

the person u dey lecture has block head na.....

YoungRichRuler:



Someone sent this BC to me this morning



Daddy G. O.'s tactical resignation or retirement: An unpleasant development

While I agree totally with the call for Christians to go into politics én mass, I would rather call for the church first of all to go into prayers. Haven't we seen sound Christians who went into politics and became compromised by the monstrous spirit of corruption and mammonry that has eaten dip into our political system and taken root in all the seats of power?

This ungodly law that is supposedly signed into law by the National Assembly did not start as a national issue but an expression of grief by one man who became aggrieved by his pastor and general overseer. This man is the current boss of the Financial Reporting Council of Nigeria.

This said man was a pastor with the RCCG who became envious of the success and power wielded by the General Overseer, because, he himself is a power hungry man. He became head of the FRC after repeatedly backstabbing his boss to whom he was number two with repeated petitions to the higher authorities against his boss until he had his way.

He has never had anything good to say about his G. O. He had always spoken I'll of him to whoever cares to hear. While he was still a pastor under the RCCG, he bragged that he had not stepped his foot into the Redemption Camp in many years.

He had always complained that the G O has asked other pastors to step down after reaching 70 years and he himself has refused to do so. And had bragged on a few occasions that he would ensure the G O steps down.

Let me add that neither he the boss nor the parastatal he heads (FRCN) has the power to execute the law, but he did. Financial Reporting Council has its jurisdiction whose bounds this man has overstepped. Recently, the kangaroo Acts of the FRC he concocted alone to favour him and his draconian regime was repealed by the National Assembly or so it seems. His satanic high handedness style of governance has been a thing of concern in the parastatal.

He became so power drunk that he tried to insult the integrity of the G O four years ago when the G O asked that he comes to see him. Only then was his church file as a pastor reviewed and he got suspended from the church. He became all the more drunk with power when he got someone who introduced him to the then president. There, he found an opportunity to present this matter to the president and gave reasons why churches and mosques should start paying taxes. He convinced the president then by running down God's servants.

He was an easy tool then because he came very handy to be used against the then Central Bank governor which led to his suspension from office. This drew him closer to the president and tactically had the president's ear. It was at that point he made way to express his devilish desire against the church with his G O as main target.

When the church suspended him and the then president left office, he quickly joined himself to Latter Rain Church and got introduced to the pastor through a member of staff of the FRC who worships there. This he did subtly because of the closeness of the pastor to this present government so he can get introduced to the new Preside Buhari. That was done.


His staff in the office are groaning under his hard leadership and cannot speak out because he had held them bound with threats and fear. This man who today is an enemy of the church has been implicated in wizardry and witchcraft and belonging to the occult. He has some cases of abuse of office and immoral activities going on in court against him which he lost recently.

Today, he is laughing because it seems his agenda is playing out. He is boasting that it will spread to all the other long serving G.O.s This, he will achieve if the church does not arise to both pray and cease power first from the realm of the spirit.

In Acts 12:1-10, when Herod took James and killed him and no one did anything, he proceeded to take the leader of the apostles- Peter. That's when the church woke up to prayers and intervention came in verse 5-10.

In Acts 7:1-end, Saul ensured Steven died and no one stood against him, so he proceeded to Damascus to clean up the church until the Master intervened because the church prayed.

Who said the bill can not be reversed? Why should the church be dictated to by the state when the state has no hand in leading the church? Didn't our Lord Jesus say He will build His church and the gates of hell cannot not prevail against it? Why is hell raging now and we are complying?

Haman's Bill in the book of Esther was countered. Joshua stopped time until he overthrew evil kings. Where is the power today in the church? We see not our signs. (Ps. 74:9)

The state cannot dictate to the church when her leaders should come in and out and who they should handover to. If we don't fight this evil now, it will develop into something worse that will bring regrets to the church. Who knows; they could start telling the pastors what to preach and what not to preach. What pastors should wear and not wear etc.

Let's call for a Solemn Assembly and let the priests weep between the porch and the altar until this evil quickly dies out.

And the point of this write up is exactly what? Well government can raise it from 20 years to life time... Our love for power and the adulation of men is what is not making us progress as a nation. For a nation to move forward we should focus more on institutions and respect for the rule law and not pampering to personalities. I am most disappointed in Buhari, why the rush to sack the FRC boss, definitely there must be some merit to the regulation.

ayindejimmy:
If the exert below is true, then Buhari goofed

"Another source added that the Presidency found it curious that a regulation, which the Council could not implement during former President Goodluck Jonathan’s administration, was being enforced under Buhari.
“Although the regulation dated back to Jonathan’s administration, why did he fail to implement it and ask the religious leaders to resign? Why did the council wait till the present administration before insisting on its implementation?” the source asked."


The FRCN clearly stated that the churches took the agency to court on this matter and a verdict was gotten in October, 2016.
Obviously, that would be the reason why the FRCN boss communicated the commencement of its implementation to the Directors at a dinner in December.
Throughout Gej's period they were in court.
I only faulted the FRCN boss on how he failed to comprehensively carry the Minister along.
The president need to stop taking his minister's advices hook line and sinker. Most of them are only after their personal interest.
He needs to search for the facts and hold on to the truth

I now truly understand how Aisha Buhari feels, that people who voted against her husband in 2015 are the ones now enjoying the perks of office. i commend the effort of the FRC boss in implementing the regulation.

malton:
Religion has done a lot of damage to our psyche in Nigeria.

If our people were half as zealous over education, economic and political institutions as they are over religion, even China would dream of becoming like Nigeria.

These doom and gloom predictions about the trials and tribulations that humanity will face before the apocalypse isn't helping us one bit.

People often fail to plan for the future because they feel the end is near. Some accept their low status in society because they have been led to believe that poverty is their destiny, and that they will be rewarded with everlasting joy when the world is brought to a close.

For most, life has been about the ultimate plan; and as such, they have failed to take their destinies into their own hands.

I don't really see religion as a positive social influence that could promote growth.

We have had it for a long time now, and look where it has landed us.

The fight for supremacy is now rife. Some have embarked on a conquest just to gain dominance.

A good thing doesn't fight to gain acceptance. Only a bad one is forced.

Until the day that religion encourages us to be committed to ensuring that this life is the best that it can possibly be, since it is the only life that any of us have; it still remains the opium of the oppressed, like Karl Marx opined.

As for me, I don't see any wrong in charging an institution that does not provide people’s basic needs despite being built on people's sweats. They have schools but their members lack access to education. There's plenty enough money, yet they cannot push for childcare programs for members' wards.

They should be regulated...

Nope, Religion isn't the problem of Nigeria, many atheist and there likes have been disseminating this false and illconceived notion.

Religion is first and foremost personal and sometimes based on conviction, that other sectors of the Nigeria have refused to develop is not the fault of the religion of the people rather it's the institutionalised corruption and terrible leadership Nigeria has had over the years which has created a frustrating environment for those sectors to develop.

For instance that a Church built a school is not the reason why the government could not provide good roads and basic social amenities to improve the lot of the people.

And religion must be respected, it's part of the social and spiritual life of an individual, whether he is a Christian or Muslim, what's important is that they do their stuff peacefully respecting each other.

Mark Zuckerberg just realised and stated that religion is important, this is coming from a self confessed atheist-it shows you must respect what people believe.

The same religion you so much criticized is the same religion that took the people of Israel to their promised land and beyond in technology development. Please take it easy on the religion/people and advise based on their mind set to take their destiny in their hands by enforcing good governance and not on religion.

malton:
Religion has done a lot of damage to our psyche in Nigeria.

If our people were half as zealous over education, economic and political institutions as they are over religion, even China would dream of becoming like Nigeria.

These doom and gloom predictions about the trials and tribulations that humanity will face before the apocalypse isn't helping us one bit.

People often fail to plan for the future because they feel the end is near. Some accept their low status in society because they have been led to believe that poverty is their destiny, and that they will be rewarded with everlasting joy when the world is brought to a close.

For most, life has been about the ultimate plan; and as such, they have failed to take their destinies into their own hands.

I don't really see religion as a positive social influence that could promote growth.

We have had it for a long time now, and look where it has landed us.

The fight for supremacy is now rife. Some have embarked on a conquest just to gain dominance.

A good thing doesn't fight to gain acceptance. Only a bad one is forced.

Until the day that religion encourages us to be committed to ensuring that this life is the best that it can possibly be, since it is the only life that any of us have; it still remains the opium of the oppressed, like Karl Marx opined.

As for me, I don't see any wrong in charging an institution that does not provide people’s basic needs despite being built on people's sweats. They have schools but their members lack access to education. There's plenty enough money, yet they cannot push for childcare programs for members' wards.

They should be regulated...

agabusta:
How FRC boss snubbed Buhari’s directive


The former Financial Reporting Council boss, Jim Obazee, was sacked for disobeying a directive of the Minister of Industry, Trade and Investment, Mr. Okechuckwu Enelamah, The PUNCH learnt.

Enelamah had earlier recommended to Buhari that the implementation of the controversial corporate Governance Code 2016 be suspended.

A top government official, who spoke with one of our correspondents on condition of anonymity, said the President approved Enelamah’s recommendation and the minister thereafter conveyed the decision to Obazee.

The source said, “Since the minister had conveyed the President’s approval that the implementation should be suspended, it was taken for granted that it had been suspended.

Read Also: Buhari fires FRC boss over Adeboye, others’ tenure

“Surprisingly, the Presidency received a report that during the Christmas period, Obazee hosted chief executives of some quoted companies to a dinner.

“It was at that dinner that he reportedly told his guests that the law had taken effect and would be implemented.

“The report got to the government and the President was angry about it.”

The President of the National Council of The Nigerian Stock Exchange, Mr. Aigboje Aig-Imoukhuede, was said to have led the chief executives of companies to the dinner.

Another source, who confirmed the development, said Buhari sacked Obazee and dissolved the board of the FRC on Monday based on the recommendation of Enelamah.

http://punchng.com/frc-boss-snubbed-buharis-directive/

My advise to Buhari is that he has no time on his side to prove the confidence reposed in him so should be careful now than before.
it were better for him not to come to power at all and die gracefully on the past glory than to fail out this age of his.He should learn from past failed leaders who can never redeem their glory till they die.
Should 2017 end in recession again,2018 wl be too short to catchup and election is around Feb 2019 to be sworn in in May of same year.
We need action now.Nothing is working.

oyejideogunjumo:
My advise to Buhari is that he has no time on his side to prove the confidence reposed in him so should be careful now than before.
it were better for him not to come to power at all and die gracefully on the past glory than to fail out this age of his.He should learn from past failed leaders who can never redeem their glory till they die.
Should 2017 end in recession again,2018 wl be too short to catchup and election is around Feb 2019 to be sworn in in May of same year.
We need action now.Nothing is working.

you are right. Time is running fast.

bezimo:
Nope, Religion isn't the problem of Nigeria, many atheist and there likes have been disseminating this false and illconceived notion.

Religion is first and foremost personal and sometimes based on conviction, that other sectors of the Nigeria have refused to develop is not the fault of the religion of the people rather it's the institutionalised corruption and terrible leadership Nigeria has had over the years which has created a frustrating environment for those sectors to develop.

For instance that a Church built a school is not the reason why the government could not provide good roads and basic social amenities to improve the lot of the people.

*I will write this in a haste, so details will seem sketchy.

When I speak of religion, I picture northern Nigeria. The version of religion you speak of is the civilized kind.

I on the other hand, speak of the religion that does not allow people to reach their potentials. The highly conservative kind. To break free in the north today, you have to escape religious oppression and forced beliefs. They see religion as a source of grand judgment.

Their line of thinking inhibits growth. A lot of people have been held back due to religious restrictions.

Today, we have senators (unfortunately) who believe that giving women equal opportunity as men is against their religious beliefs. So, they do everything within their power to oppose any move that will lead to women's emancipation in the society. Imagine the income lost because able-bodied women who are willing to work and have one or two inputs to contribute are not allowed to.

It is the kind of thought that guides a lot of the ideas our leaders brew. They do not give room for liberal progressive ideas because they are of the opinion that religion supersedes all. Major state decisions are made within the tenets of religious provisions. The fundamentalists oppose any move that will lead to the uplifting of most. The people on their own part, seemed contented because religion taught them so.

It takes concerted efforts to grow any society.

It's not as if our leaders are unaware of the devt models required to grow the country, it's just that they would rather the country suffer than compromise passionately held religious convictions for the sake of its growth.

Unfortunately, the masses also share these convictions. People don't ask questions because they believe that God will right all wrongs at the appointed time. How are the leaders to be accountable?

Religion or not, people can be assholes, not ruling out the points you raised. But religion is more pain than gain when it comes to societal growth and development.

He was sacked for insubordination

MadamExcellency:
Sharap there.

The regulation in question is titled: National Code for Corporate Governance 2016.

Was Jonathan's administration still formulating policies in 2016?

Who created the agency and act or law to start with? PMB administration?

The fact that the man is enforcing the law in 2016 doesn't mean the agency or the act itself was not created under Jonathan and being enforced today by a Jonathan appointee.

bezimo:
Nope, Religion isn't the problem of Nigeria, many atheist and there likes have been disseminating this false and illconceived notion.

Religion is first and foremost personal and sometimes based on conviction, that other sectors of the Nigeria have refused to develop is not the fault of the religion of the people rather it's the institutionalised corruption and terrible leadership Nigeria has had over the years which has created a frustrating environment for those sectors to develop.

For instance that a Church built a school is not the reason why the government could not provide good roads and basic social amenities to improve the lot of the people.

And religion must be respected, it's part of the social and spiritual life of an individual, whether he is a Christian or Muslim, what's important is that they do their stuff peacefully respecting each other.

Mark Zuckerberg just realised and stated that religion is important, this is coming from a self confessed atheist-it shows you must respect what people believe.

Religion in Nigeria is part of the same corruption destroying Nigeria, politicians and corrupt church leaders work hand in hand to corrupt the society and promote corruption in Nigeria.

Churches collects money and they are all registered under our finance institutions on that basis so they must open their books and follow acts and laws like any other revenue generating entities in Nigeria.

The churches and pastors in Nigeria can not get away with what they get away with in advanced societies where we copied democracy from and in fact, such people go to jail those climes.


In spirit, I like and support this act because it protects the society and our interests.

These churches and pastors are nothing but corrupt thieves using religion to loot and fleece their church members and ultimately loot Nigeria because the crooked and corrupt churches, they own multi-billion naira for-profit businesses, own luxuries like mansions, private jets, TV stations and publishing houses that they hide under their churches just to deny Nigerians taxes and fees.

I know Nigerians are too knee-deep in religion to know what's good for them because these churches and pastors are denying them the same taxes they need for good roads, hospitals, schools, bridges, electricity and so on.

MadamExcellency:
Sharap there.

The regulation in question is titled: National Code for Corporate Governance 2016.

Was Jonathan's administration still formulating policies in 2016?

don't mind the programmed guy

Be warned: anyone who tries to stand against the destruction of Nigerian society by self-absorbed enemies of Nigeria will himself be destroyed. The March of Nigeria to utter failure and dysfunction must not be challenged. By the way, how did that law ever come to be sef? NIGERIA IS A JOKE! NIGERIA IS A JOKE! NIGERIA IS A JOKE! NIGERIA IS A JOKE! NIGERIA IS A JOKE! NIGERIA IS A JOKE! NIGERIA IS A JOKE! NIGERIA IS A JOKE! NIGERIA IS A JOKE! NIGERIA IS A JOKE! NIGERIA IS A JOKE!!!

malton:
Sure, there may be billions even.

That's because religiosity promotes high income inequality. The high and mighty use religion as a means to keep the poor and downtrodden in line, create rosy expectations by painting a picture of hope, all while feeding fat on their resources and giving less accountability.

Religion leaves individuals less time, ability as well as the resources to think freely based on facts. It's a vicious circle of activities that saps energy out of anyone.

India and China are largely educated, the same cannot be said for largely Islamic countries where Western education isn't encouraged.

Even in Christianity, a lot of people who dedicate their lives to such activities often perform below their capacities. It often takes an extremely sharp individual to effectively combine religiosity with excellence in other social aspects that benefit the society.

I'm not saying religion is entirely bad, it's the intensity at which it is practiced that's bad.

You've been browbeaten and now afraid to assert your conviction? Then don't start

Its so unfortunate that we are not seeing beyond the letter. The Aboki president PMB & his cohorts want to set discord amongst the Church so that they can easily penetrate us and implement their plans for this country. Let's be wise and face it squarely, else we are in trouble.

"He that hath an ear let him hear what the Spirit is saying"

This bring us back to where we began

deomelo:
Religion in Nigeria is part of the same corruption destroying Nigeria, politicians and corrupt church leaders work hand in hand to corrupt the society and promote corruption in Nigeria.

Churches collects money and they are all registered under our finance institutions on that basis so they must open their books and follow acts and laws like any other revenue generating entities in Nigeria.

The churches and pastors in Nigeria can not get away with what they get away with in advanced societies where we copied democracy from and in fact, such people go to jail those climes.


In spirit, I like and support this act because it protects the society and our interests.

These churches and pastors are nothing but corrupt thieves using religion to loot and fleece their church members and ultimately loot Nigeria because the crooked and corrupt churches, they own multi-billion naira for-profit businesses, own luxuries like mansions, private jets, TV stations and publishing houses that they hide under their churches just to deny Nigerians taxes and fees.

I know Nigerians are too knee-deep in religion to know what's good for them because these churches and pastors are denying them the same taxes they need for good roads, hospitals, schools, bridges, electricity and so on.

I disagree with your opinion, no where in the world are churches taxed, that is not possible in Nigeria.How are churches and pastors corrupt thieves? If your claim is not misguided, why is the EFCC not after them?
Aren't you suprised that the Dasuki gate corrupt scandal didn't taint any church or pastor image.

I don't see how churches and pastors loot Nigeria, the last time I checked, members of those churches willingly and deliberately give their whatever to those churches or pastors? You are not wiser than those church folks who do that
So non church goers or givers have no right to give an opinion on why church folks would part with their resources towards the church.

Whatever the church owns it deserves, if you look at the big churches in Nigeria, they started very small with perhaps 4-10 church members in the 80s and 70s and have delicately and diligently managed themselves to become big, so where were you when they started humbly with nothing to show.

You can't wake up and start saying churches and pastors are this, they are that.they didn't suddenly arrive there.

The same buhari that refuse to intervene in Fulani killings, kaduna massacre, but with speed sack Jim Obazee, this is pure tribalism.

why condemning fayose with all the fact he mentioned. you people seems to be parochial in nature who cannot discern the action of buhari. buahri pro north, since his arrival as president, neither south west nor south east has meaningful development, the whole aids coming into the country is going to maiduguri, another 1000 km oil pipe line from niger to parth of north, indeed buhari want to islamise the whole country.

It has been suspended for too long in Nigeria. This is a control measure to protect the public's interests. Most non profit organizations are meant to provide public facilities.

Globally people have been rejoicing over the corporate governance codes. Its meant for all sectors-public and private.

People must be held accountable for funds and assets in their care.