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Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 4:18pm On Jan 12, 2017
MuttleyLaff:
Anyway, though I have told you this before, it doesn't stop me, saying it again, that a lot of outstanding or yet fulfilled prophecies will need to be hurriedly and squashingly slotted in, back to back, into the limiting window of time that is between now and on or before Friday, January 20th, 2017

I know you've already got made up excuses saved for when your proverbial doesn't hit the fan sic
Everything has been fulfilled. All the prophecies have a convergence.

Care to share which of the 'yet fulfilled prophecies' would be 'hurriedly and squashingly slotted in back to back, into the limiting window of time that is between now and on or before Friday, January 20th, 2017'?
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Ishilove: 4:20pm On Jan 12, 2017
MrPresident1:
I have given no dates my dear Ishilove, I have given no definitive date that Jesus would return. The only certain, factual and infallible date I have given is the date by which the attempts to mix Iron and Clay would end completely.

That date is the 20th of January 2017.

And Bible prophecy tells us that it is in the days of the mixing of Iron and Clay that God will set up the kingdom of His son Jesus Christ. The stone that was cut from the mountain without hands struck the image at its feet of iron and clay.

If mixing has failed and Iron has failed to cleave with Clay what is the implication of this? Take your bearing from Daniel 2:43-44

Daniel 2:43-44
43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
My darling MrPresident1, I have a nagging headache, I'm cold and I am hungry. Don't come and be giving me Masters thesis to research angry

And stop speaking in parables angry angry angry
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 4:27pm On Jan 12, 2017
Yes! I said it! There is going to be plenty of SEX in heaven. Pt 2

But he has promised to regather us back to Himself, after the blessing and the curse...

Deuteronomy 30:1-7
30 And it shall come to pass, when all these things are come upon thee, the blessing and the curse, which I have set before thee, and thou shalt call them to mind among all the nations, whither the Lord thy God hath driven thee,
2 And shalt return unto the Lord thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul;
3 That then the Lord thy God will turn thy captivity, and have compassion upon thee, and will return and gather thee from all the nations, whither the Lord thy God hath scattered thee.
4 If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the Lord thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:

5 And the Lord thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.
6 And the Lord thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
7 And the Lord thy God will put all these curses upon thine enemies, and on them that hate thee, which persecuted thee.


When we are regathered back into the presence of the LORD
Jeremiah 10:20
My tabernacle is spoiled, and all my cords are broken: my children are gone forth of me, and they are not: there is none to stretch forth my tent any more, and to set up my curtains.

Ezekiel 37:26-27
26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore.
27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.


His tabernacle, us, was spoiled, but He has promised that that tabernacle will be rebuilt and it will be with us forever: He will our God, and we shall be His people.
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Ranchhoddas: 4:30pm On Jan 12, 2017
Lobatan!
O ti ya were.
MrPresident1:
There will be PLENTY of SEX in heaven. PLENTY OF SEX. And we will be doing naming every hour of the day grin. I will answer you comprehensively later.

THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF SEX IN HEAVEN grin
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 4:30pm On Jan 12, 2017
Ishilove:
My darling MrPresident1, I have a nagging headache, I'm cold and I am hungry. Don't come and be giving me Masters thesis to research angry

And stop speaking in parables angry angry angry
Others will read.

Take two tablets of paracetamol every 6 hours for the next 18 hours wink

grin
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 4:31pm On Jan 12, 2017
Ranchhoddas:
Lobatan!
O ti ya were.
20th January 2017 wink
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Ranchhoddas: 4:36pm On Jan 12, 2017
Anas09:
Pls don't make me start ignoring you, pls. This is becoming crazy.
You know he's crazy. Tell him already!
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Ranchhoddas: 4:37pm On Jan 12, 2017
Donald Trump.
MrPresident1:
20th January 2017 wink
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 4:38pm On Jan 12, 2017
Ranchhoddas:
You know he's crazy. Tell him already!

Matthew 7:28
And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:


Na today? Mtshewwwwwwww cheesy wink
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Ishilove: 4:39pm On Jan 12, 2017
MrPresident1:
Others will read.

Take two tablets of paracetamol every 6 hours for the next 18 hours wink

grin
And the hunger nko? angry
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Ishilove: 4:39pm On Jan 12, 2017
Ranchhoddas:
Lobatan!
O ti ya were.
Lmaaaao! Smh
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 4:41pm On Jan 12, 2017
Ishilove:
And the hunger nko? angry
Eat fufu. Well pounded fufu grin

Filling, nourishing and satisfying. Use okro soup for easier swallowing grin
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Ishilove: 4:42pm On Jan 12, 2017
MrPresident1:
Eat fufu. Well pounded fufu grin

Filling, nourishing and satisfying. Use okro soup for easier swallowing grin
Lol. You are not serious
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 4:44pm On Jan 12, 2017
Ishilove:
Lol. You are not serious
What is the cure for hunger?
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 4:48pm On Jan 12, 2017
Yes! I said it! There is going to be plenty of SEX in heaven. Pt 3

But he has promised to regather us back to Himself, after the blessing and the curse...


Deuteronomy 30:9
9 And the Lord thy God will make thee plenteous in every work of thine hand, in the fruit of thy body, and in the fruit of thy cattle, and in the fruit of thy land, for good: for the Lord will again rejoice over thee for good, as he rejoiced over thy fathers:


After the curse, when we are regathered, in heaven, into His tabernacle, HE WILL MAKE US PLENTEOUS IN THE FRUIT OF OUR BODY!
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 4:50pm On Jan 12, 2017
Ranchhoddas:
Donald Trump.
Be sober, watchful and awake.

The kingdom of God ruled by His Christ will be fully established before 12noon 20th January 2017 wink
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Ranchhoddas: 4:54pm On Jan 12, 2017
MrPresident1:
Be sober, watchful and awake.

The kingdom of God ruled by His Christ will be fully established before 12noon 20th January 2017 wink
Nigerian, American or Australian time?
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by jonbellion(m): 4:59pm On Jan 12, 2017
MrPresident1:
Be sober, watchful and awake.

The kingdom of God ruled by His Christ will be fully established before 12noon 20th January 2017 wink
you are insane oo
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 5:00pm On Jan 12, 2017
jonbellion:
you are insane oo
grin

One more time and I will tear you to pieces grin
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 5:01pm On Jan 12, 2017
Ranchhoddas:
Nigerian, American or Australian time?
smh wink
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Nobody: 5:14pm On Jan 12, 2017

Mrpresident1, can you pls allow me tell you something?
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 5:38pm On Jan 12, 2017
oluwaseyi000:


Mrpresident1, can you pls allow me tell you something?
Sure you can, fire on smiley
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 5:49pm On Jan 12, 2017
The moon is 4.51 billion years old.

https://www.rt.com/viral/373441-moon-age-revealed-satellite/

How old would the earth be?

Definitely not 6,000 years old. The point being that Adam and Eve were not the first people on earth, Adam and Eve were the first MAN, all others before them were MANKIND.

Adam and Eve were the first MAN because they were the first to receive the LAW of God which is the Spirit of God; and God breath into them and MAN became a living soul. The Word/LAW of God is the spirit of God. All others before Adam and Eve were dead souls.

Genesis 2:7
And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 8:19pm On Jan 12, 2017
Image123, questions for you

1, Who is the son of perdition?
2, What is the Falling Away?
3, What is the Iron?
4, What is the Clay?
5, Name one concrete attempt to mix these two ideologies that you have noticed?
6, When is the end of the attempt to mix these two ideologies?
7, Do you agree that we are in the period of Iron and Clay?
8, When will this time of Iron and Clay end?
9, Identify specific great leaders of Gold, Silver, Brass, Iron and Clay...
10, How long did Babylon the kingdom of Gold last?

Can anyone help Image123 to answer these questions?

GoodMuyis, Gboyee4fun, Ishilove, KingEbukasblog, Eniholar, Felixomor, OLAADEGBU, JOAGBAJE, Scholar8200, Martinez19,

Where are Bible scholars?
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 8:21pm On Jan 12, 2017
Within the next 8days, Jesus Christ will come, because all attempts to mix the ideology of iron with the ideology of clay ends on the 20th of January 2017.

The kingdom of God will be established right here on this earth before this date.

Be awake, be sober, be watchful grin
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Image123(m): 1:42am On Jan 13, 2017
MrPresident1:
Image123, questions for you

1, Who is the son of perdition?
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.


Eschatology deals with the study of last day events, it is not my forte or interest as such. Nevertheless, i am not ignorant or naive about it. The son of perdition is the Antichrist himself, who according to the above scriptures will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. He is not yet manifest/revealed. There is no such person yet historically in our time.

2, What is the Falling Away?
The verse doesn't say but it suggests/infers some sort of FALLING or backsliding, and the falling is obviously away. Many have opined that the church or a bulk of the church would at some point fall away or backslide. Jesus Himself asked if He would find FAITH at His coming.

3, What is the Iron?
i believe you are referring to Daniel/Nebuchadnezzar's vision.
Dan 2:32 This image's head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass,
Dan 2:33 His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay.
Dan 2:34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and broke them to pieces.
Dan 2:38 And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold.
Dan 2:39 And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.
Dan 2:40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

If i remember my studies well, the kingdom of Babylon is the head of Gold as written. After that kingdom came another world Kingdom which were the Medes and persian Kingdom. Assyrians OR SO(Greecians maybe i do not really recall that) are brass, then after them came the Romans. The Roman Empire are the Iron.



4, What is the Clay?
Clay is Aluminium Silicate, lol. Clay is a soft part, a weakened part. It is a mixture. The world rulers became a mixture of strong and weak, iron and clay, not just one country.
Dan 2:41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
Dan 2:42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.
Dan 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

There you have it, hope am getting prize for this. cheesy

5, Name one concrete attempt to mix these two ideologies that you have noticed?
They've been trying to mix since forever, the UN, G7, G8, ABC20, they are all jokers till Jesus comes.

6, When is the end of the attempt to mix these two ideologies?
Jesus'coming. There'll be no one obvious strong kingdom till He comes.
Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever.


7, Do you agree that we are in the period of Iron and Clay?
That's like General Knowledge i suppose.

8, When will this time of Iron and Clay end?
You asked already i think, when Jesus comes which is not 20th of January 2017.

9, Identify specific great leaders of Gold, Silver, Brass, Iron and Clay...
i already gave direct clues.

10, How long did Babylon the kingdom of Gold last?

Can anyone help Image123 to answer these questions?

GoodMuyis, Gboyee4fun, Ishilove, KingEbukasblog, Eniholar, Felixomor, OLAADEGBU, JOAGBAJE, Scholar8200, Martinez19,

Where are Bible scholars?
i don't recall, it ended during the time of Daniel though.
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by Image123(m): 1:59am On Jan 13, 2017
MrPresident1:
You will eat these words I assure you you will eat these words grin

Stay on that side and let me stay on this side, Image123 alea iacta est!

Ghen ghen!!!! grin
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy lol, i hope you will begin to submit to proper Bible study after January 20th.
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 1:43pm On Jan 13, 2017
Ishilove, MMM is back grin grin grin
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op):
Image123, you have tried. I will take your points one by one, I will help you to fish, I will not feed you.

Image123:
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

Eschatology deals with the study of last day events, it is not my forte or interest as such. Nevertheless, i am not ignorant or naive about it. The son of perdition is the Antichrist himself, who according to the above scriptures will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sits in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. He is not yet manifest/revealed. There is no such person yet historically in our time.
There are precedents for the Son of perdition, and Paul gives us the sign that we will use to recognise him when we see him:
Look at the relationship between the following verses, you will see how to recognise the son of perdition of our time because there have been others before him

2Thessalonians 2:4
Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.


Isaiah 14:13
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Ezekiel 28:2
Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:


All these verses are saying the same thing...

These are the clues that will help you identify the son of perdition of these end times

1. All precedent sons of perdition were great kings/rulers
2. All were super power nations
3. All were rich and powerful nations
4. All sons of perdition were destroyed along with their nations.

You can continue reading here https://www.nairaland.com/2991715/falling-away-revelation-son-perdition

Paul specifically told us that if anyone prophesies to us that Christ is coming, we should not bother about that person unless he shows us the son of perdition

GoodMuyis, Gboyee4fun, Ishilove, KingEbukasblog, Eniholar, Felixomor, OLAADEGBU, JOAGBAJE, Scholar8200, Martinez19,
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 3:06pm On Jan 13, 2017
Image123
The verse doesn't say but it suggests/infers some sort of FALLING or backsliding, and the falling is obviously away. Many have opined that the church or a bulk of the church would at some point fall away or backslide. Jesus Himself asked if He would find FAITH at His coming.
The Falling Away is a specific event relating, and leading to the revelation of the son of perdition. It is a progressive event as Paul told us...

2 Thessalonians 2:3
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;


The day will not come except there come a (1) falling away first (2) and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

How did Sodom and Gomorrah fall away from God that brought His punishment upon them?
How did Egypt fall away from God that brought His punishment upon them?
How did Babylon fall away from God that brought His punishment upon them?

Take note that these were all prosperous, developed, and well advanced nations...They were the leading nations of their times (important clue)

In the case of our world, the falling away happened when the leading ruling nation of our world declared itself a RAINBOW LOVE NATION.

They devolved into wickedness, debauchery and abominations!

GoodMuyis, Gboyee4fun, Ishilove, KingEbukasblog, Eniholar, Felixomor, OLAADEGBU, JOAGBAJE, Scholar8200, Martinez19,
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 3:13pm On Jan 13, 2017
Image123
The Roman Empire are the Iron.
Your are right. Roman doctrine/culture/ideology/orientation/attitude is the Iron.

GoodMuyis, Gboyee4fun, Ishilove, KingEbukasblog, Eniholar, Felixomor, OLAADEGBU, JOAGBAJE, Scholar8200, Martinez19,
Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by MrPresident1(op): 3:23pm On Jan 13, 2017
Daniel 2:41-43
And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.
43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
Iron is Roman doctrine/culture/ideology/orientation/attitude
Clay is also a doctrine/culture/ideology/orientation/attitude

The mixture of Iron doctrine and Clay doctrine has failed to cleave.

Clues to identify the Clay doctrine
1. It is miry in nature, it is sticky
2. It is the seed of men, it multiplies. The primary function of seeds is to ensure multiplication and proliferation
3. It is not as physically strong as Iron
4. The clay did not mix with the iron, they did not cleave

GoodMuyis, Gboyee4fun, Ishilove, KingEbukasblog, Eniholar, Felixomor, OLAADEGBU, JOAGBAJE, Scholar8200, Martinez19,
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