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KingEbukasBlog:
Theists don't say that absolute nothingness exist because God is something . We say that God brought the universe into being .

Easy with the strawman .

The universe is everything, if God existed before it, then God existed in nothingness, if he existed in nothingness it cannot be nothingness for he existed. Hence who created the nothingness in which he resided.
The only way to go around this is if you say God created himself and the universe from nothing. And if God can do it why can't the universe come from nothing?

KingEbukaNaija:
[s]Let's for a moment thank nothingness for having no powers , no properties , no compositions yet the universe in its grandeur pulled out from it just like that . [/s] help!!! They are messing up my God the creator here!!!

Lol

Lennycool:
Your tactic is just down right deceitful, you are trying to circumvent logic to aid your views as usual.
First of all the atheist population of today cannot be compared to those at the time of the Nobel prize's inception.
Meaning: you're comparing atheist population today to account for an award that started way back in early 1900's a period of time known for it's high Christian population in the western world, where "coincidentally" most of the scientific research were carried out, since the eastern nations were still developing.

And to piss you off more just because I can.
Accounting for their population size Jews have won more Nobel prizes than christians.
Jews have won 20% of Nobel prizes although their population has never surpassed 100 million compared to Christianity's mammoth population.

Your illogical tactic has failed.

Need I say more?

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That guy goes for whatever statistic that favours him at a any given point in time. He has said it severally that atheists are an insignificant part of the world's population. But when it comes to the Nobel Prize, the number of atheists in the world starts to skyrocket.

Lennycool:
The universe is everything, if God existed before it, then God existed in nothingness, if he existed in nothingness it cannot be nothingness for he existed. Hence who created the nothingness in which he resided.
The only way to go around this is if you say God created himself and the universe from nothing. And if God can do it why can't the universe come from nothing?

Stephen hawking said something similar to this

Lennycool:
The universe is everything, if God existed before it, then God existed in nothingness, if he existed in nothingness it cannot be nothingness for he existed. Hence who created the nothingness in which he resided.
The only way to go around this is if you say God created himself and the universe from nothing. And if God can do it why can't the universe come from nothing?

The universe is everything physical - take note . God just brought into being the physical realm or the universe .

I strongly doubt you understand the theistic position .

jonbellion:
Stephen hawking said something similar to this

Please state it .

Ranchhoddas:
Need I say more?

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That guy goes for whatever statistic that favours him at a any given point in time. He has said it severally that atheists are an insignificant part of the world's population. But when it comes to the Nobel Prize, the number of atheists in the world starts to skyrocket.

Atheists are currently <8 percent of the world's population because there are 3 or 4 existing communist governments . Russia and other former communist states have now so many religious people .

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol .

Have you forgotten that the communist governments in numerous countries imposed atheism on people . USSR , China , North Korea and close to 30 other countries had communist governments that suppressed the growth of religious people . Even pogroms were carried out against the Jews . And even thousands Christians and Jews were incarcerated within that period .

Why do you think atheists proliferated ? Thank your communist governments far that .

The religious people were killed in millions yet they still had 89 percent of Nobel Prize awards since 1900s

Plus as at 1996 only 3 percent of Mensa members were atheists and over 40 percent were Christians

Don't forget :

What concerns communist government and Nobel prize
The religious people were killed in their own eastern countries not the west where the scientific research was going on.
So now you want to group Jews and Christians together?

Even after the christians were the ones persecuting the jews?
Hell Christian majority Europe hated their asses so much they stole land for them to make their own country on.

And even after I told you atheist in the west where insignificant in the early inception of the Nobel prize.
You're still bringing it up

Lennycool:
What concerns communist government and Nobel prize
The religious people were killed in their own eastern countries not the west where the scientific research was going on.
So now you want to group Jews and Christians together?

Even after the christians were the ones persecuting the jews?
Hell Christian majority Europe hated their asses so much they stole land for them to make their own country on.

And even after I told you atheist in the west where insignificant in the early inception of the Nobel prize.
You're still bringing it up

Since when was USSR part of the eastern countries or you just typing anything you feel like and posting

As at 1991 , the population of the Soviet Union was at 293 million while Europe's population was at 700 million and the world's population was at 5 billion at time This is just the Soviet Union .

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheists are currently <8 percent of the world's population because there are 3 or 4 existing communist governments . Russia and other former communist states have now so many religious people .

Another lie

Countries with high population of atheist are in the picture below.
Only two were former communist state.
Lying for Christ again

Don't cry, I promise I'll let a lie slip through next time

Lennycool:
Another lie

Countries with high population of atheist are in the picture below.
Only two were former communist state.
Lying for Christ again
;DD
Don't cry, I promise I'll let a lie slip through next time

You got this from an atheist site .

Anyway , do the calculations and tell me the population of the atheists in the world , then calculate the percentage

KingEbukasBlog:
Since when was USSR part of the eastern countries or you just type anything you feel like and post

As at 1991 , the population of the Soviet Union was at 293 million while the world's population was at 5 billion at time . This is the Soviet Union .

Why are you telling me their population?
And yes the soviet Union constitutes the east.

KingEbukasBlog:
You got this from an atheist site .

Anyway , do the calculations and tell me the population of the atheists in the world , then calculate the percentage

The percentage is hard to factor. But according to Wikipedia atheist make up
2%-13% of the world's population.
Aren't you tired of lying

As for saying the pic is from an atheist site (which its not).
Here is a link from independent
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/atheists-countries-list-six-world-most-convinced-a6946291.html

It has only the six listed though. I'm not you to use biased data to support my views, I'm better than that.

Lennycool:
Why are you telling me their population?
And yes the soviet Union constitutes the east.

The point remains that Soviet Union ( constituted so many European states ) as at 1991 was 293 million while the whole of Europe was close to 700 million . That's approx 40 percent of Europe's population were presumably atheists because of the communist government intolerance of the belief in God and religious practices .
Not to talk of millions that were killed by these atheists .

Yet Christians still got 65.4 percent and the Jews I think 22 percent but the atheists had to be combined with the agnostics and the non religious and they still got 10 percent of the Nobel Prize laureates

This is just embarrassing .

KingEbukasBlog:
Please state it .

The role played by time at the beginning of the universe is, I believe, the final key to removing the need for a Grand Designer, and revealing how the universe created itself. … Time itself must come to a stop [at the singularity]. You can’t get to a time before the big bang, because there was no time before the big bang. We have finally found something that does not have a cause because there was no time for a cause to exist in. For me this means there is no possibility of a creator because there is no time for a creator to have existed. Since time itself began at the moment of the Big Bang, it was an event that could not have been caused or created by anyone or anything. … So when people ask me if a god created the universe, I tell them the question itself makes no sense. Time didn’t exist before the Big Bang, so there is no time for God to make the universe in. It’s like asking for directions to the edge of the Earth. The Earth is a sphere. It does not have an edge, so looking for it is a futile exercise.

Hawking

KingEbukasBlog:
Please state it .

The role played by time at the beginning of the universe is, I believe, the final key to removing the need for a Grand Designer, and revealing how the universe created itself. … Time itself must come to a stop [at the singularity]. You can’t get to a time before the big bang, because there was no time before the big bang. We have finally found something that does not have a cause because there was no time for a cause to exist in. For me this means there is no possibility of a creator because there is no time for a creator to have existed. Since time itself began at the moment of the Big Bang, it was an event that could not have been caused or created by anyone or anything. … So when people ask me if a god created the universe, I tell them the question itself makes no sense. Time didn’t exist before the Big Bang, so there is no time for God to make the universe in. It’s like asking for directions to the edge of the Earth. The Earth is a sphere. It does not have an edge, so looking for it is a futile exercise.
Hawking

Lennycool:
The percentage is hard to factor. But according to Wikipedia atheist make up
2%-13% of the world's population.
Aren't you tired of lying

As for saying the pic is from an atheist site (which its not).
Here is a link from independent
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/atheists-countries-list-six-world-most-convinced-a6946291.html

It has only the six listed though. I'm not you to use biased data to support my views, I'm better than that.

Atheists make up to 2-13 percent ? That means I'm right when I said atheists are <8 percent : it falls within the range given by Wikipedia .

Should I also tell you to go back to school ?

jonbellion:
The role played by time at the beginning of the universe is, I believe, the final key to removing the need for a Grand Designer, and revealing how the universe created itself. … Time itself must come to a stop [at the singularity]. You can’t get to a time before the big bang, because there was no time before the big bang. We have finally found something that does not have a cause because there was no time for a cause to exist in. For me this means there is no possibility of a creator because there is no time for a creator to have existed. Since time itself began at the moment of the Big Bang, it was an event that could not have been caused or created by anyone or anything. … So when people ask me if a god created the universe, I tell them the question itself makes no sense. Time didn’t exist before the Big Bang, so there is no time for God to make the universe in. It’s like asking for directions to the edge of the Earth. The Earth is a sphere. It does not have an edge, so looking for it is a futile exercise.
Hawking

The answer to Hawking is that God became temporal as It created the universe : God existed timelessly without the universe and in time with the universe .

Easy peasy .

KingEbukasBlog:
The answer to Hawking is that God being temporal when It created the universe : God existed timelessly without the universe and in time with the universe .

Easy peasy .

you are mad

Ranchhoddas:
Need I say more?

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That guy goes for whatever statistic that favours him at a any given point in time. He has said it severally that atheists are an insignificant part of the world's population. But when it comes to the Nobel Prize, the number of atheists in the world starts to skyrocket.

The guy is a chronic liar.
He lies and lies and lies, I've called him out on three just on this page alone.
I would've ignored his ignorant rantings if it wasn't for the fact that some Christians here will actually think he has said something worthwhile rather than just lies.

jonbellion:
you are mad

The beleaguered genius couldn't extricate himself out of his own conundrum.

Don't be hurt bro .

Its logical to acknowledge God .

Lennycool:

The guy is a chronic liar.
He lies and lies and lies, I've called him out on three just on this page alone.
I would've ignored his ignorant rantings if it wasn't for the fact that some Christians here will actually think he has said something worthwhile rather than just lies.

Says the person who does not understand that less than 8 percent falls within the range of 2-13 percent .

Stop calling me a liar , blame your inability to comprehend for your own problems

Peace bro

KingEbukasBlog:
The point remains that Soviet Union ( constituted so many European states ) as at 1991 was 293 million while the whole of Europe was close to 700 million . That's approx 40 percent of Europe's population were presumably atheists because of the communist government intolerance of the belief in God and religious practices .
Not to talk of millions that were killed by these atheists .

Yet Christians still got 65.4 percent and the Jews I think 22 percent but the atheists had to be combined with the agnostics and the non religious and they still got 10 percent of the Nobel Prize laureates

This is just embarrassing .

What is this?
Can mortal ignorance stupe this low?
40% of Europe's population was atheist because of Russia?
Can you prove this with facts or are you just lying as usual?

Ebuka you are an unabashed liar.
Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand.

At this rate you won't enter that heaven you're currently dying for.

KingEbukaNaija:
Let's for a moment thank nothingness for having no powers , no properties , no compositions yet the universe in its grandeur pulled out from it just like that .

Show me an atheist that says that nothing made the earth? You haven't shown us anything making the earth. You just believe something made it.

The reality is that no one knows how the universe came about. You only believe that some tribal entity that some people imagined made the earth without any evidence.

dalaman:
Show me an atheist that says that nothing made the earth? You haven't shown us anything making the earth. You just believe something made it.

The reality is that no one knows how the universe came about. You only believe that some tribal entity that some people imagined made the earth without any evidence.

don't mind the ode
It's way better to be a diest
Which he is but he's just ashamed

Lennycool:
What is this?
Can mortal ignorance stupe this low?
40% of Europe's population was atheist because of Russia?
Can you prove this with facts or are you just lying as usual?

Ebuka you are an unabashed liar.
Repent for the kingdom of God is at hand.

At this rate you won't enter that heaven you're currently dying for.

Soviet Union not Russia .

Did you notice the quality of your posts kept decreasing as large doses of common sense were being fed to you

New tactic : call king ebuka a liar because he shatters my beliefs

KingEbukasBlog:
Soviet Union not Russia .

Did you notice the quality of your posts kept decreasing as large doses of common sense were being fed to you

New tactic : call king ebuka a liar because he shatters my beliefs

lmao
Ebuka and common sense
Mr man
April fools is 3 like just 2 months away
Chill

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheists make up to 2-13 percent ? That means I'm right when I said atheists are <8 percent : it falls within the range given by Wikipedia .

Should I also tell you to go back to school ?

Liar that's not all you said.
You said it was less than, that means not more than eight percent I proved it was a lie, not to forget you said it was because of 3 or 4 communist states, I proved this was also a lie since only 2 communist states were among the top ten.
Lying for the lord.
You're just silly

KingEbukasBlog:
[s]Soviet Union not Russia .

Did you notice the quality of your posts kept decreasing as large doses of common sense were being fed to you [/s]

New tactic : call king ebuka a liar because he shatters my beliefs

but you have always been a liar na
Na today in start
You misinterpret facts to wallow in your Yahweh delusion

dalaman:
Show me an atheist that says that nothing made the earth? You haven't shown us anything making the earth. You just believe something made it.

The reality is that no one knows how the universe came about. You only believe that some tribal entity that some people imagined made the earth without any evidence.

Without evidence . I took you on a ride into the world of logic with the obliterated intelligent life on earth analogy to expose your illogical assertions and you stopped responding .

I also asked you that : since the "founders" of atheism believed the universe is eternal and had ridiculous beliefs about the components of the physical world and science disproved them , should we call them ignorant ?

You didn't respond .

KingEbukasBlog:
Moronic comment .

Christians are 32 percent of the population while atheists , agnostics , freethinkers and the non religious have 16 percent of the world's population -that's half of it - yet Christians have 65.4 percent of the Nobel Prize laureates and the aforementioned trio have just 10.4 percent .

Go back to school!

This is a silly comment... Has atheism always been as high as 16%? Nobel prize started a long time ago so u should find the average demographic throughout that period... I can't believe I have to explain this to you

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