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If a whole two states that is funded by oil money cant fund one university(for free education). How is it that people then expect the Church to be able to fund a university without charging students?

Which church and did they really claim that? Religious school not uncommon. In dallas metro there's Texas Christian University, Dallas Baptist University , South Assembly of God University. They all charge but all pretty good places to school.

Blue3k:
Which church and did they really claim that? Religious school not uncommon. In dallas metro there's Texas Christian University, Dallas Baptist University , South Assembly of God University. They all charge but all pretty good places to school.

Thank you! Even in Tulsa, Oklahoma we have ORU which charges but is really good. But my Nigerian ppl are too clouded by emotions to be rational

Statsocial:
Thank you! Even in Tulsa, Oklahoma we have ORU which charges but is really good. But my Nigerian ppl are too clouded by emotions to be rational

The reason being that most religious leaders are living extravagant life styles. Secondly the gap between the rich and poor is so wide that the educated poor although not all have poor mindset and easily get jealous when they people living big. Instead of asking how they became rich and seek for help in getting the same, they result to curse and insults on social media. Thirdly our politicians are heartless to mankind and so they use such menace to their advantage that's why we hear of book haram,kidnapping, e.t .c.instead of the citizens to condemn their act,you see them fighting each other on social media .They even defend wrong economic policies of their leaders even if they're dying.

There is corruption in government, that why osun and Oyo.
But I will advice aregbesola, not to fund lautech any more.


Aregbesola is a mumu when you send OSUn money to Oyo state fo

There is corruption in government, that why osun and Oyo.
But I will advice aregbesola, not to fund lautech any more.

Aregbesola should be funding Ondo medical university which is closer to osun student.and it is at the border of osun state

Osun state university is close to oke Igbo in Ondo state. And the Ondo medical university is oke Igbo. The town which osun state university is on. Is join together with oke Igbo. The town are join together

Blue3k:
Which church and did they really claim that? Religious school not uncommon. In dallas metro there's Texas Christian University, Dallas Baptist University , South Assembly of God University. They all charge but all pretty good places to school.

Statsocial:
Thank you! Even in Tulsa, Oklahoma we have ORU which charges but is really good. But my Nigerian ppl are too clouded by emotions to be rational

Who says church schools shouldn't charge? The issue is, how much do they charge when compared to other schools? Here in Nigeria, church schools are the most expensive, which doesn't make sense no matter how you look at it. I have checked the tuition of a lot of church schools in the US and their tuition is usually considering beside the fact that they give a lot of scholarships and financial aid.

Afam4eva:
Who says church schools shouldn't charge? The issue is, how much do they charge when compared to other schools? Here in Nigeria, church schools are the most expensive, which doesn't make sense no matter how you look at it. I have checked the tuition of a lot of church schools in the US and their tuition is usually considering beside the fact that they give a lot of scholarships and financial aid.

Financial aid is from Government program fafsa. Next those schools have better endowment funds. Yeah they do more scholarships in usa in general. How much more expensive is public school then religious based schools?

Afam4eva:
Who says church schools shouldn't charge? The issue is, how much do they charge when compared to other schools? Here in Nigeria, church schools are the most expensive, which doesn't make sense no matter how you look at it. I have checked the tuition of a lot of church schools in the US and their tuition is usually considering beside the fact that they give a lot of scholarships and financial aid.

Do Nigerian uni Alumni donate like US?
I think it is sign of mumu for anyone to pay tax forcefully and not be able to hold govt responsible but pay tithe voluntarily and expect to dictate to the church. . .
Before anyone compares FG to private uni let him tell us how much the FG spends on every student a year.
@topic, Nobody seem to be addressing the question the topic poses.

You see when people keep saying missionary schools (University) are expensive I laugh it off , an average standard secondary school in lekki ,where you can hardly find two PHD holders pays 250k per term only for day students ,for boarding students is around 400k . So if a secondary charges about 1.2m , for an average secondary school in lekki . I know of schools , I mean secondary school that pays 4m annually . So I don't understand what all this noise about .

Afam4eva:
Who says church schools shouldn't charge? The issue is, how much do they charge when compared to other schools? Here in Nigeria, church schools are the most expensive, which doesn't make sense no matter how you look at it. I have checked the tuition of a lot of church schools in the US and their tuition is usually considering beside the fact that they give a lot of scholarships and financial aid.

And who told you that it is the school that gives scholarships. Sometimes it is Alumni, government or independent foundations that offer these scholarship. I am currently a beneficiary of a scholarship by king Abdullah in Canada. Also church universities are d cheapest in Nigeria. E.g Covenant university vs AUN, Redeemers university vs Bells universities, Baze university vs Landmark university. Most of the secular universities charge millions whilst church schools currently charge just barely above 500k. Also Churches do subsidized school fees to a reasonable level. E.g Caleb university proprietors grants the uni about 500 million yearly in addition to the school fees of students.

There has been so much buzz about Church universities being expensive in Nigeria and I would like to address some of this controversies mostly using Covenant University as a case study
Tithes/Offerings are used to build Church Universities?This seems to be a widely asserted theory. This is partly not true because most Churches don’t exactly use Tithes/Offerings for building church universities but create special donations for that purpose. Usually, the initial university capital projects are funded with these donations. We have to remember that the core mandate of any church isn’t not to create universities but to preach the gospel of Jesus and help the poor and this done with tithe/offering to establish outreaches, pay pastoral salaries, build new churches etc.
Donations can’t sustain recurrent expenditure: while ‘excited’ members would usually agree to pay donations for the initial financial responsibility of the universities. No church would be able to get its church members to continually pay for its recurrent expenditure. In fact if any of these church schools were to try and choose continual donations as an alternative to ‘High’ tuition fees the next thing you would see are private university lecturers going on strike.
Are Church universities profitable?I do not believe any sane investor or business man would venture into the tertiary education sector with the aim of making profit. There is a reason why you wouldn’t find Otedola or Dangote investing in education.
Assumed wealth of the Church:there is a saying in Yoruba land that ‘’the chicken sweats but the feathers won’t let you know’’. Would you believe that Oyedepo nearly missed his own deadline for the establishment of the first two halls of residence in Covenant University? because donations weren’t coming forth, until God miraculously provided.
‘Expensive’ tuition isn’t unique to Pentecostal Churches: whilst many choose to assault Bishop Oyedepo for charging high tuition fees. It is important to note that even Orthodox churches which are known not to be ‘’prosperity conscious’’ charge within the same bracket e.g Bowen(Baptist), ECWA(Bingham), Godfrey Okoye(Catholic), Adventist(Babcock), JABU(CAC) e.t.c
Expensive tuition isn’t unique to Church universities alone;Church universities are ranked to be generally good with Covenant University averagely in top three on the two out of four most reputable rankings in the world-Webometrics and Times higher education. However Islamic schools that are not in the top 50 universities in Nigeria but also charge about half a million which is about the same thing CU charges.
The underlining purpose for creating Church schools;This is very important, the creation of church schools isn’t to actually teach physics and chemistry, but to create a spiritual revolution. Take that spiritual revolution away from CU, then it is by no means different from Afebabalola university. Therefore, if you are a committed member of your church you are already a member of that movement. For instance I am not a living faith member, but by attending CU I have joined myself to the spiritual movement of the existing members.
Finally, Church education can not be seen as a means to compensate members for years of dedication or commitment to tithing but an end time ammunition to take over the education sector for Jesus. However the church has a responsibility to the poor-and that cannot be overstated. Although it is wrong for you to expect material gain from your church because you gave your Tithes/Offerings to them-it goes against the principles of scripture. When you give your tithe next time, remember that you are giving it out to be blessed by God and not Church

Statsocial:
There has been so much buzz about Church universities being expensive in Nigeria and I would like to address some of this controversies mostly using Covenant University as a case study
Tithes/Offerings are used to build Church Universities?This seems to be a widely asserted theory. This is partly not true because most Churches don’t exactly use Tithes/Offerings for building church universities but create special donations for that purpose. Usually, the initial university capital projects are funded with these donations. We have to remember that the core mandate of any church isn’t not to create universities but to preach the gospel of Jesus and help the poor and this done with tithe/offering to establish outreaches, pay pastoral salaries, build new churches etc.
Donations can’t sustain recurrent expenditure: while ‘excited’ members would usually agree to pay donations for the initial financial responsibility of the universities. No church would be able to get its church members to continually pay for its recurrent expenditure. In fact if any of these church schools were to try and choose continual donations as an alternative to ‘High’ tuition fees the next thing you would see are private university lecturers going on strike.
Are Church universities profitable?I do not believe any sane investor or business man would venture into the tertiary education sector with the aim of making profit. There is a reason why you wouldn’t find Otedola or Dangote investing in education.
Assumed wealth of the Church:there is a saying in Yoruba land that ‘’the chicken sweats but the feathers won’t let you know’’. Would you believe that Oyedepo nearly missed his own deadline for the establishment of the first two halls of residence in Covenant University? because donations weren’t coming forth, until God miraculously provided.
‘Expensive’ tuition isn’t unique to Pentecostal Churches: whilst many choose to assault Bishop Oyedepo for charging high tuition fees. It is important to note that even Orthodox churches which are known not to be ‘’prosperity conscious’’ charge within the same bracket e.g Bowen(Baptist), ECWA(Bingham), Godfrey Okoye(Catholic), Adventist(Babcock), JABU(CAC) e.t.c
Expensive tuition isn’t unique to Church universities alone;Church universities are ranked to be generally good with Covenant University averagely in top three on the two out of four most reputable rankings in the world-Webometrics and Times higher education. However Islamic schools that are not in the top 50 universities in Nigeria but also charge about half a million which is about the same thing CU charges.
The underlining purpose for creating Church schools;This is very important, the creation of church schools isn’t to actually teach physics and chemistry, but to create a spiritual revolution. Take that spiritual revolution away from CU, then it is by no means different from Afebabalola university. Therefore, if you are a committed member of your church you are already a member of that movement. For instance I am not a living faith member, but by attending CU I have joined myself to the spiritual movement of the existing members.
Finally, Church education can not be seen as a means to compensate members for years of dedication or commitment to tithing but an end time ammunition to take over the education sector for Jesus. However the church has a responsibility to the poor-and that cannot be overstated. Although it is wrong for you to expect material gain from your church because you gave your Tithes/Offerings to them-it goes against the principles of scripture. When you give your tithe next time, remember that you are giving it out to be blessed by God and not Church

Very intelligent analysis. Nice one!

Statsocial:
There has been so much buzz about Church universities being expensive in Nigeria and I would like to address some of this controversies mostly using Covenant University as a case study
Tithes/Offerings are used to build Church Universities?This seems to be a widely asserted theory. This is partly not true because most Churches don’t exactly use Tithes/Offerings for building church universities but create special donations for that purpose. Usually, the initial university capital projects are funded with these donations. We have to remember that the core mandate of any church isn’t not to create universities but to preach the gospel of Jesus and help the poor and this done with tithe/offering to establish outreaches, pay pastoral salaries, build new churches etc.
Donations can’t sustain recurrent expenditure: while ‘excited’ members would usually agree to pay donations for the initial financial responsibility of the universities. No church would be able to get its church members to continually pay for its recurrent expenditure. In fact if any of these church schools were to try and choose continual donations as an alternative to ‘High’ tuition fees the next thing you would see are private university lecturers going on strike.
Are Church universities profitable?I do not believe any sane investor or business man would venture into the tertiary education sector with the aim of making profit. There is a reason why you wouldn’t find Otedola or Dangote investing in education.
Assumed wealth of the Church:there is a saying in Yoruba land that ‘’the chicken sweats but the feathers won’t let you know’’. Would you believe that Oyedepo nearly missed his own deadline for the establishment of the first two halls of residence in Covenant University? because donations weren’t coming forth, until God miraculously provided.
‘Expensive’ tuition isn’t unique to Pentecostal Churches: whilst many choose to assault Bishop Oyedepo for charging high tuition fees. It is important to note that even Orthodox churches which are known not to be ‘’prosperity conscious’’ charge within the same bracket e.g Bowen(Baptist), ECWA(Bingham), Godfrey Okoye(Catholic), Adventist(Babcock), JABU(CAC) e.t.c
Expensive tuition isn’t unique to Church universities alone;Church universities are ranked to be generally good with Covenant University averagely in top three on the two out of four most reputable rankings in the world-Webometrics and Times higher education. However Islamic schools that are not in the top 50 universities in Nigeria but also charge about half a million which is about the same thing CU charges.
The underlining purpose for creating Church schools;This is very important, the creation of church schools isn’t to actually teach physics and chemistry, but to create a spiritual revolution. Take that spiritual revolution away from CU, then it is by no means different from Afebabalola university. Therefore, if you are a committed member of your church you are already a member of that movement. For instance I am not a living faith member, but by attending CU I have joined myself to the spiritual movement of the existing members.
Finally, Church education can not be seen as a means to compensate members for years of dedication or commitment to tithing but an end time ammunition to take over the education sector for Jesus. However the church has a responsibility to the poor-and that cannot be overstated. Although it is wrong for you to expect material gain from your church because you gave your Tithes/Offerings to them-it goes against the principles of scripture. When you give your tithe next time, remember that you are giving it out to be blessed by God and not Church

You nailed it 100% from all angle. This should be thread on its own. Lalasticlala and Mynd44 or Seun come and read this please.

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