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Nigerian very gullible, I know the opposition always played within the country, now wailers has taken their own to international community as if the are the only lawyer in the world. pls b4 u go out there to disgrace urself don't forget to consult saraki lawyer. thank Mr lawyer.

YouthsPC0:
Yaya Jammeh should step aside

Go and remove him na. As far as am concerened the mans action is still within the law of Gambia. Who knows the man might just have a second thought about making one of the costliest and dumb mistake Nigerians made which we are paying dearly for now.

GAMBIA IS ABOUT TO BURN FOR NO REASON:
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For your information the Whole Gambian Military consists of:-
*Army - 900 Men and Officers
*Air force - 100 Men and Officers, 4 Aircrafts.
*National Guard - 700 Men & officers.
*Military Police - 400
*Navy - 250 personnel, 4 fast patrol boats.
Source: (wikipedia)

NOW THIS IS WHAT IS COMING FOR YAHYA JAMMEH BEFORE THE WEEK RUNS OUT
*530 soldiers from Senegal
*600 from Ghana
*100 peace envoys from Sierra Leone
*1000 Buratai Boys from Nigeria with Nigeria's newest warship.
*200 dreaded fighters from France, UK and Germany.

Also, 30 fighters Jets and 300 B52 will cross the border and enter into the Gambia to escort President-Elect Adama Barrow to the Independence Stadium for his Inauguration.

NOW WHERE IS THE WISDOM IN STUPIDITY?

Culled.

The declaration of the state of emergency was because he doesn't want to handover. It doesn't stand! ECOWAS is on the right path. ...dethrone the baga.

DeepSight:
I have to disagree with you here, Old Friend.

Nigeria is a most abnormal country suffering horrendously disagreeable psychosis.

For only in such a country can a person who committed treasonable felony by being involved in the military overthrow of a constitutional democracy - which plunged Nigeria into 16 years of egregrious military dictatorship ever be considered, much less permitted to contest a presidential election. The plain truth is that such a person should be in jail: should long have been convicted of treasonable felony and should never even contemplate the presidency of Nigeria.

But because we are such a sick people with a dim sense of history, we permit such sacrilege and even celebrate it as positive change.

In truth, whereas you attempt to portray Buhari as a peace loving democrat: this is false - you have forgotten the hundreds of yourth corpers killed in the North as a direct result of his provocative utterances to Northern youth regarding the 2011 elections. It is not only by going to court that one shows that one is a democrat: one also shows it by being large hearted enough in dicey situations which could cost lives. Buhari did not do that and that in 2011 and that cost many hundreds of lives. Do you also remember his comments about the dogs and baboons being soaked in blood? What is wrong with you Sir?

Contrast him with Jonathan who left without a whimper. Do you know the real truth about the 2015 Election? Jonathan's life was a risk and Buhari's people had let him know in no uncertain terms that he would be assassinated if he did not "comply". I was close enough to key actors in the corridors of power at the time and I know what I am saying for a fact. In fact, the USA and Britain also advised him in similar terms. All of this was done for Buhari, who you here attempt to cast as a law abiding Democrat?

If Nigeria were not a sick nation, we would not permit ex military dictators, particularly those involved in, or who were beneficiaries of a coup that truncated a constitutional democracy, to be elected President. It is quite unthinkable, but anything goes in Nigeria.



You are quite wrong. Only a court Judgment can put aside the State of Emergency and as per the Constitution of Gambia, Janmeh may remain under a State of Emergency.

This in no way means I support his detestable actions: I am speaking strictly legally.

Lol...
Who would have assasinated Jonathan as president?

If he had won, nothing would have happened to him, and because he is not a wahala person, he did not set the Niger delta on fire with his utterances,

Nobody would have assasinated him

If it's in their constitution, it's their law

greenpasture:
Nigeria has never deployed troops to stand them down. Never happened, never will. They will finish what they start and Gambia will be free to have a country where opposition can fully express itself.

Congo, Sierra Leone, Liberia, Sao Tome and now Gambia.

We know...but how does that erase the fact that they are ill equipped.

seunmsg:
NNS unity is not currently within the territorial waters of Gambia so, your argument is flawed. Whatever the case, ECOWAS forces will move into Gambia anytime from tomorrow and Jammeh will be removed. We have gone beyond the stage of legal jargons. Jammeh either hands over peacefully tomorrow or get the Gbagbo treatment.

The gbagbo treatment led to a civil war that claimed more than 3000 civilian lives

I still respect Dr Goodluck Ebele Jonathan for his on the marble statement " My political ambition is not worth the blood of any Nigerian ". What a Statesman!
My advice to Adama Barrow : Please don't force yourself on Gambians. It can only lead to bloodshed. INSIST that the incumbent president conducts another election as soon as possible under the STRICT supervision of the ECOWAS, AU and the UNO ( making it impossible for anyone to rig ). I assure you, if Gambians really want you as their president, there is nothing the incumbent can do about it.
By this you would have proved that you sincerely want to serve Gambia and not Gambia to serve you.

greenpasture:
Oh please!
He has international law on his side. Both the AU and the UN have ratified th ECOWAS response. What sovereignty? The sovereignty of states is not unlimited. It's comments like yours that allowed the genocide in Rwanda. Domestic law is subject to the norms of international law.

PMB has acted decisively. I am proud of our armed forces ability to organize and launch out within such a short time frame. I lived in Gambia for a while and my friends there say people really appreciate ecowas and Nigeria in particular. We have two banks and many citizens there and we have acted only within the ambit of delegated international authority.

To hold otherwise is to hold that a state can do whatever it likes to its people an the foreigners within its land mass on the ground of " sovereignity"

I approximately appreciate u...but the constitution of a country should be respected. Dialogue through the rule of law remains a better approach than the blood thirsty military actions.

obayaya:
I don't care what happens to Jammeh.. I honestly don't care..

But the OP presented the constitution. And Jammeh is taking advantage of that constitution. He got the approval of the parliament (representative of Gambia people).

So, Tell me.. If Ecowas go in blazing tomorrow, will they be seen to be protecting the Gambian people or constitution when they are in fact disregarding the constitution and the Gambian people represented by the Parliament?

I think Ecowas needs to rethink their strategy.. Force won't cut it.

IT IS THE ECOWAS JUDGES, MOST LIKELY NIGERIANS, THAT WILL INTERPRET THE GAMBIAN CONSTITUTION IN THE SUPERIOR COURTS OF THE COUNTRY.

JAMMEH IS JAMMED AND HIS STATE OF EMERGENCY HOLDS NO WATER.

WOCKHARDI:
I still respect Dr Goodluck Ebele Jonathan for his on the marble statement " My political ambition is not worth the blood of any Nigerian ". What a Statesman!
My advice to Adama Barrow : Please don't force yourself on Gambians. It can only lead to bloodshed. INSIST that the incumbent president conducts another election as soon as possible under the STRICT supervision of the ECOWAS, AU and the UNO ( making it impossible for anyone to rig ). I assure you, if Gambians really want you as their president, there is nothing the incumbent can do about it.
By this you would have proved that you sincerely want to serve Gambia and not Gambia to serve you.

He would have been slaughtered by the north if he had held back!

Why argue like .......

seunmsg:
I am a lover of peace and I want peace to reign in Gambia. Anybody telling Jammeh to hold on and refuse to handover under any legal jargons at this point in time is an enemy of peace. Election was conducted and a winner emerged. The only path to peace is for all parties to respect the decision of the Gambian people until the supreme court rules otherwise.

While I understand your argument, the truth is that the world doesn't work like that. The makes of law make it to suit them everywhere in the world. That constitution was ammended under Jammeh. It's like the 1999 Nigerian constitution who till date we don't know those that are the we in " We the people.........." and they even made Sharia law above the constitution itself.
I for one want Jammeh out as the seat is not his birth right but in law, you don't commit illegality in fighting illegality.

Etogist:
This long epistle was just to defend an incompetent president that committed treason by overthrowing a democratically elected government. What a shame.

Let me even agree with you that it was Buhari that overthrew the Shagari government, was that the only successful coup in the history of Nigeria, or even in the world? Who started coup plotting in Nigeria? How come you have not shown so much hatred for the people that introduced coups to Nigeria? How come you have never for once accused Ironsi or even Obasanjo of treason.

The hypocrisy you are exhibiting that the Jammeh you love so much also got to power through a coup.

A thread created for the Gambians
They flipped it over and all I am seeing now is Buhari this, Bihari that.

Buhari is not even the Chairman of ECOWAS.
How Buhari take enter?

wirinet:
Let me even agree with you that it was Buhari that overthrew the Shagari government, was that the only successfully coup in the history of Nigeria, or even in the world? Who started coup plotting in Nigeria? How come you have not shown so much hatred for the people that introduced coups to Nigeria? How come you have never for once accused Ironsi or even Obasanjo of treason.

The hypocrisy you are exhibiting that the Jammeh you love so much also got to power through a coup.

Or Keneth Kaduna and his friends that killed All regional Governors except for Ojukwu

He has been the President for more than Twenty Years... It's time for him to leave. He even name the country Islamic Republic.

obayaya:
The gbagbo treatment led to a civil war that claimed more than 3000 civilian lives

It was not the Gbagbo treatment that led to the civil war, it was Gbagbo's refusal to step down that lead to the civil war in the first place. If Jammeh is not removed as quickly as possible, it will eventually lead to another civil war in West Africa, which Buhari, ECOWAS and the international community must avoid. Jammeh has already started persecuting Barrow's supporters in the army ( his tribes men of course), and before you know it jammeh's tribes men and Barrow's tribesmen would start killing each other. ISIS and it's affiliates will now find another safe haven in Africa.

WOCKHARDI:
I still respect Dr Goodluck Ebele Jonathan for his on the marble statement " My political ambition is not worth the blood of any Nigerian ". What a Statesman!
My advice to Adama Barrow : Please don't force yourself on Gambians. It can only lead to bloodshed. INSIST that the incumbent president conducts another election as soon as possible under the STRICT supervision of the ECOWAS, AU and the UNO ( making it impossible for anyone to rig ). I assure you, if Gambians really want you as their president, there is nothing the incumbent can do about it.
By this you would have proved that you sincerely want to serve Gambia and not Gambia to serve you.

Somebody won an election and you are talking about w him forcing himself on Gambians. You seem not to understand that countries are governed by laws. Barrow or even Jammeh cannot order fresh elections, it is only the courts that can do that. Also ECOWAS or the UN cannot conduct elections, the law gives their electorial body that responsibility.
So what happens to the country after the expiration of Jammeh's tenure while waiting for fresh elections to be conducted? Will he remain in office illegally?

DeepSight:
I have to disagree with you here, Old Friend.

Nigeria is a most abnormal country suffering horrendously disagreeable psychosis.

Dear sir, you are one of the highly cerebral people I respect so much on Nairaland, that does not stop us from having our disagreements.

I disagree that Nigeria is a most abnormal country suffering from horrendously disagreeable psychosis. I am not a pessimist who always look at negative sides of things and freign helplessness at every challenge, I try to to see the positive sides of things and how to solves problems. I know you are a very spiritual person so you should understand the destructive effect of negative thoughts and energy.

Nigeria is just passing through the teething pains of nation building. Most nations in history passed through this same phase of evolution, from ancient Greece to modern USA. The greatest problem we have is that we started of our nation building on a wrong and rigged footing. Slowly, painfully but gradually we will get there if we do not give up.

For only in such a country can a person who committed treasonable felony by being involved in the military overthrow of a constitutional democracy - which plunged Nigeria into 16 years of egregrious military dictatorship ever be considered, much less permitted to contest a presidential election. The plain truth is that such a person should be in jail: should long have been convicted of treasonable felony and should never even contemplate the presidency of Nigeria.

But because we are such a sick people with a dim sense of history, we permit such sacrilege and even celebrate it as positive change.

My brother you are letting you emotions get the better of you usually sound judgement. I think you are a lawyer, so you should understand what it means to accuse someone of committing treasonable felony. Buhari had never been accused of treasonable felony not to talk of being convicted. In fact, Buhari is not the only "coup plotter" that has ever graced the political landscape. Obasanjo, our first president in thus new dispensation was a "coup plotter", I did not hear your complain in all of his 8 years. Lots of former military men who participated or benefitted from coup have held governorship and legislative positions without you raising eyebrows, why single out Buhari?

Can't respond fully to your other submissions now, but will try and continue later.

YouthsPC0:
JAMMEH should step aside YES , Yes & Yes but Your pay master buhararia has no Democratic credentials the op was right , Buhari don contest 3 times all of them him no accept defeat, him even remove Democratic gofment for power and him no de respect Naija constitution ,Naija court and ECOWAS court so make you shut up !!!! your oga na the wrongest envoy for this matter .... Now run along

Buhari is doing the same thing as Abacha who reinstated the Sierra Leoneian president after he was overthrown in a military coup.
The international media poked fun at us for being the only country that exports what it does not have (democracy) while importing what it has (fuel).
No wonder Buhari said that Abacha did not steal our money.
Real comrades in esprit de loot.

TBC

What is the difference between Nigeria and Gambia,, Jonathan accepted defeat to avoid chaos and mayhem, jammah will never accept cos the spirit of war is in him,Nigera soldiers should be becareful, because the war we averted during Jonathan and buhari shouldn't start cos of jammah issue..let's clean our butt, b4 cleaning others.. One love.

You are as dumb as buhari. ..can't you think

48noble:
I approximately appreciate u...but the constitution of a country should be respected. Dialogue through the rule of law remains a better approach than the blood thirsty military actions.

And I completely agree with you. Unfortunately dialogue is a two way street and requires that both parties share some basic tenets of decent behaviour. This is why appeasement of Hitler did not work in WW2 and the reason why tyranny is basically deaf.

Have a great and prosperous year in 2017

seunmsg:
Seriously, why are you wailers so terribly dishonest? You twist facts just to come to your dishonest opinion. This thread is supposed to be about Gambia's constitution but you can't just resist the temptation to slyly attack the president once again. For the records, challenging the result of an election is part and parcel of the electoral process and to the best of my knowledge, Buhari accepted all the decisions of the supreme court on all three occasions that he went to court.

As regards Gambia, you wailers can keep urging Jammeh on. After tomorrow, ECOWAS forces will move in and he will be dislodged so easily. If some of you like, you can go and fight for him, you will be roundly defeated together.

Obviously to you, the truth is always bitter. That post was spot on.

What the guy said bout Buhari is very true. If Bubu knew anything about conflict resolution, am sure this small information won't be an oversight. He himself has issues conceding defeat, not to mention Jammeh. All he knows is brute force and violence. It's been proven over and over again that the pen is always mightier than the sword. That's the case with Syria and we all know the impact of that on Syria today. It will take generations to fix that nation.

ECOWAS doesn't need to use violence to resolve this conflict. They just need to understand the country's constitution and use it to get ride of that man but our man who doesn't understand the rule of law in his own state can understand Gambians plight.

Russia did by influencing elections in favour of Trump and there is nothing America can do about it, why not emulate such and display wisdom as strength rather than throwing the entire country to chaos while violating the country's own very constitution.

seunmsg:
Seriously, why are you wailers so terribly dishonest? You twist facts just to come to your dishonest opinion. This thread is supposed to be about Gambia's constitution but you can't just resist the temptation to slyly attack the president once again. For the records, challenging the result of an election is part and parcel of the electoral process and to the best of my knowledge, Buhari accepted all the decisions of the supreme court on all three occasions that he went to court.

As regards Gambia, you wailers can keep urging Jammeh on. After tomorrow, ECOWAS forces will move in and he will be dislodged so easily. If some of you like, you can go and fight for him, you will be roundly defeated together.

Obviously to you, the truth is always bitter. That post was spot on.

What the guy said bout Buhari is very true. If Bubu knew anything about conflict resolution, am sure this small information won't be an oversight. He himself has issues conceding defeat, not to mention Jammeh. All he knows is brute force and violence. It's been proven over and over again that the pen is always mightier than the sword. That's the case with Syria and we all know the impact of that on Syria today. It will take generations to fix that nation.

ECOWAS doesn't need to use violence to resolve this conflict. They just need to understand the country's constitution and use it to get ride of that man but our man who doesn't understand the rule of law in his own state can understand Gambians plight.

Russia did by influencing elections in favour of Trump and there is nothing America can do about it, why not emulate such and display wisdom as strength rather than throwing the entire country to chaos while violating the country's own very constitution.

seunmsg:
Seriously, why are you wailers so terribly dishonest? You twist facts just to come to your dishonest opinion. This thread is supposed to be about Gambia's constitution but you can't just resist the temptation to slyly attack the president once again. For the records, challenging the result of an election is part and parcel of the electoral process and to the best of my knowledge, Buhari accepted all the decisions of the supreme court on all three occasions that he went to court.

As regards Gambia, you wailers can keep urging Jammeh on. After tomorrow, ECOWAS forces will move in and he will be dislodged so easily. If some of you like, you can go and fight for him, you will be roundly defeated together.

Obviously to you, the truth is always bitter. That post was spot on.

What the guy said bout Buhari is very true. If Bubu knew anything about conflict resolution, am sure this small information won't be an oversight. He himself has issues conceding defeat, not to mention Jammeh. All he knows is brute force and violence. It's been proven over and over again that the pen is always mightier than the sword. That's the case with Syria and we all know the impact of that on Syria today. It will take generations to fix that nation.

ECOWAS doesn't need to use violence to resolve this conflict. They just need to understand the country's constitution and use it to get ride of that man but our man who doesn't understand the rule of law in his own state can understand Gambians plight.

Russia did by influencing elections in favour of Trump and there is nothing America can do about it, why not emulate such and display wisdom as strength rather than throwing the entire country to chaos while violating the country's own very constitution.

seunmsg:
Seriously, why are you wailers so terribly dishonest? You twist facts just to come to your dishonest opinion. This thread is supposed to be about Gambia's constitution but you can't just resist the temptation to slyly attack the president once again. For the records, challenging the result of an election is part and parcel of the electoral process and to the best of my knowledge, Buhari accepted all the decisions of the supreme court on all three occasions that he went to court.

As regards Gambia, you wailers can keep urging Jammeh on. After tomorrow, ECOWAS forces will move in and he will be dislodged so easily. If some of you like, you can go and fight for him, you will be roundly defeated together.

Obviously to you, the truth is always bitter. That post was spot on.

What the guy said bout Buhari is very true. If Bubu knew anything about conflict resolution, am sure this small information won't be an oversight. He himself has issues conceding defeat, not to mention Jammeh. All he knows is brute force and violence. It's been proven over and over again that the pen is always mightier than the sword. That's the case with Syria and we all know the impact of that on Syria today. It will take generations to fix that nation.

ECOWAS doesn't need to use violence to resolve this conflict. They just need to understand the country's constitution and use it to get ride of that man but our man who doesn't understand the rule of law in his own state can understand Gambians plight.

Russia did by influencing elections in favour of Trump and there is nothing America can do about it, why not emulate such and display wisdom as strength rather than throwing the entire country to chaos while violating the country's own very constitution.

Power Intoxicates...I hope he remembers Gadaffi!