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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 7:55pm On Jan 25, 2017
Bossman:

I have not posted much here. Just followed the thread diligently. I am sure that will change once I start to build. Question for Haji - I am sure we have tried to contact this person through several means. Have we been able to verify that he is still active, using his number, whatsapp, etc.? Could it be that the person is actually really incapacitated, something happened to him may be? Just saying...

Luckily Sova has contacted me this afternoon... and I have communicated info to Fash and I am expecting to hear from Fash soon.
Both his Whatsapp and Voice phone numbers have changed... so I have obtained the new contact numbers. Thanks people.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:04pm On Jan 25, 2017
erico2k2:

Yes and you was lucky you are building in a city where your Mum lives.Imagine if your Mum was in Lagos and you where building in Abuja.
Me,I go there do the bit I can, and Madam does the bit she can we lock up until next time.I nor fit shout, no room for stories that touch.
PS, You can build the whole of your house %70 in one month if cash is available.

No, I did not dispute what you said at all. I totally agree with you. I am sure I have paid over the odds for materials too - especially plumbing stuffs- as she does not go to buy materials, my brother buys some whilst artisans buy the more complicated ones: such as Plumbing materials. As much as I schooled myself, I never understood all the pieces and bits involved in the plumbing aspect.

It would be a pain that hits the bone marrow if family swindles one alongside artisans too.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:17pm On Jan 25, 2017
3strikes:

Seeing those flags always make my day.......



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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:52pm On Jan 25, 2017
mavverick:
grin grin grin grin grin

Remember that Kitchen you said was not possible ?
The one you said should only be done with wood ? Well I didnt use wood o and i was happy with the results.


You know I forgot that conversation cheesy
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 9:20pm On Jan 25, 2017
erico2k2:

POS ke??U r still learning grin grin
U give me your account I transfer to your account, U get alert there and then goods released, everyone is happy, most of these Building material sellers thats what the even prefer, they dont want cash. grin grin
Even my workers I pay like that in some case, direct transfer to their bank from my Tab or mobile phone.

In Nigeria for security reasons I'm very careful to exebit in public my ability to pay on the go with mobile banking. Before them go hold one for random/kidnap and demand one empty ones account there and then.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ice4u999(m): 9:30pm On Jan 25, 2017
EgunMogaji:


That's just to frame 2 gate pillars. Can you imagine the saving on the roof for my main house?

It was here on nairaland I realized how cheap it was to hand Mould block compared to buying straight from block companies.

Just by from buying blocks to moulding onsite, also increase quantity of bags of cement and also asking my contractor builder to be more detailed in his quotations saved me 300k during fencing of a second plot.

To work under cold for this country now easy o. Every single dollar you can save matters and can go towards other things because even multi million companies will take out that one dollar for failing to work one hour.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 9:35pm On Jan 25, 2017
twinskenny:



There is nothing like secrecy... prices are everywhere, you dont discuss security matter in the open forum...

by the way i dont sell cameras i installed and make recommendations
thank you

Kenny, l take God beg you... desist from this line of argument, please!
The question he asked you, is not different from the one you are asking me (just above this your post)..... and it has nadda security implications, to warrant the kind of secrecy you are attaching to it.


People ask "open questions" here not just so that it is them in particular that will benefit but because they also want others to benefit from the answer..... otherwise we will all be doing PM back-and-forth.

It used to be......, like you are doing now, within the builders/building contractor threads (every answer was "send me an Email or a PM) but now, we have seen Builders and Clients display the cost and procedure of everything imaginable about a building , ....from pegging to foundation, to roofing and right on to even painting! undecided undecided

You will get there at some point..... because people will realize that all these information they seek are not "rocket-science" and even you are still a learner (I hope you remember when you just started to learn these things some years back, .... in the FTA section?
I remember some of your questions back then, they were so naive but now, you have learnt a lot from others, to the point of even becoming an installer of sorts.).

"Never despise your humble beginnings".

Nuff Said.




Lastpage!

BTW: Are you claiming you have never "collected money and bought a Camera for a client" in the past? Whats the yap about "I dont sell cameras"? shocked angry

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 9:53pm On Jan 25, 2017
twinskenny:


depend on number of cameras..i have a client with just 4 cams and subscribed for only 10gb per month which is around 8k, the numbers of cameras determine bandwidth usage.. and also how often do you view remotely over there

An "Unlimited subscription" is cheaper in the long run, IRRESPECTIVE of the NUMBER OF CAMERAS INSTALLED OR THE LOACTION YOU ARE VIEWING FROM.

If you are streaming Video, (whether locally or from overseas, IT IS THE SAME COST!), you are better-off on an unlimited subscription.

WHY?

1.) You are not 'constrained' to view "for only a certain number" of hours (due to a limit on your Data/Gigabytes!)

2.) Because it is a security installation, you dont want to run out of Data when you need it most e.g, during the "recording of a breaking-in"

3.) Because you cant ALWAYS be watching your screen (time constraint! you need to attend to your business/chores), this means you dont know when 'a breach' will occur.
Most security lapses are discovered when the "recording is played back".
This means "serious security installations" record 24 by 7 non-stop, (though you can set a period to over-write, so as to maximise Hard Disk Storage (say for example, "over-write every three days"wink.
If there was a breach, you would have discovered and replayed the event within the three days time...otherwise it is over-written by newer recordings).

The implication of the above is that a good installation requires enough Data availability otherwise you just have a "glorified" security set-up! I have seen many of such in the past and how their owners were lamenting "had l known".

Only an 'unlimited Data package' can guarantee that... and it is cheaper in the long run, while being fit-for-purpose.

When you discuss with your Clients, give them the above "line of reasoning" and see if they dont buy it.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ice4u999(m): 9:54pm On Jan 25, 2017
diordaves:


In Nigeria for security reasons I'm very careful to exebit in public my ability to pay on the go with mobile banking. Before them go hold one for random/kidnap and demand one empty ones account there and then.

My brother blend in with the crowd drop your fine shoe and gold chain, carry money for your backpack and enter market. Nothing dey happen! You can only get kidnapped by people that know you. You can stay in your house all day but if you have bad people around you, if the want to set you up they will still set you up.

sellers deliver materials to site I take them to the next ATM, I pay and then we go our separate ways or I go to ATM pick up money put am for car drive to seller buy my thing and of I go.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 9:58pm On Jan 25, 2017
mufutau55:


Luckily Sova has contacted me this afternoon... and I have communicated info to Fash and I am expecting to hear from Fash soon.
Both his Whatsapp and Voice phone numbers have changed... so I have obtained the new contact numbers. Thanks people.

Hajji M.
Hajji, may you live for ever Amin, you're always a peace resolution master. I love your style

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 10:28pm On Jan 25, 2017
44chux:


The problem with anything wireless is that they are highly vulnerable to spyware hacking. Cellphones and PCs etc have counter-measures, but not home gadgets.
So like everything else, ur trading this for that.
One rule of thumb is, the more affluent u get, the less wireless you should go.

By the way, pls take note that DSS censor high end monitoring devices (like CCTV) entering Nigeria.
It is also an offence if you have CCTV , electric fence, guard dogs, etc without a visible warning sign.


@Black Bolded: Very true!
You must display a sign saying the premises is MONITORED.
You should also not train the sights of your camera on your neighbour's yard (You are to shield his premises on your recording device..obscure it otherwise you can be charged for spying on him even though that is not your intention.

Now, to wireless transmission using Cameras.

@Red Bolded:

With due respects, the bolded is just a "perception" but in reality, it is the opposite.
I suspect what you think is that because we can "tighten" security on PC's/Phones (installing software and hardware like Cisco Routers, e.t.c) and because the signals/data does not "fly-in-the-air", it should be safer!

This is not always true Sir!
Infact, 'wireless' is safer than wired...... (because all l need to do is find a point where l can 'piggy-ride' on your wired installation and l am good to go! All your 'transmissions' will be available to me as well, without your knowledge (But there are ways to prevent this as well) ......if done by someone with the requisite knowledge and training.

The reason most people think wireless Camera installations (or anything wireless) are less safe, compared to the wired install is because of the dearth of knowledge in securing wireless transmissions. Those who secure wireless transmissions are seasoned professional who specialise in that area of communications and can/have proven it with their "certifications and work experience".


Dont forget that our telephone conversations are "wirelessly" transmitted from Tower-to-tower as they hop around till they find their intended receiver. undecided

Because "wired" transmissions are less difficult to manage (most people will make sure you just cant have access to the Cables... bury it in an iron pipe sef! grin ) everyone with a little knowledge can claim to be able to secure such 'wired' transmission.

Ironically, most of the people (safe a few) installing CCTV in Nigeria right now are just "Cable installers" who branched into CCTV installation...... afterall, "all na wires and cameras" grin grin

Thus, if and when they venture into wireless CCTV installs, "security", beyond the basic, routine ones that come with the Camera software (which can be cracked by someone with the "knowledge and right tools"wink becomes a challenge for them.


They will either advice the Client that it is less safe (instead of owning-up about their lack of knowledge and capability!) or just leave it "open".

Just ask your CCTV installer "what Cisco certifications or equivalent, he has in WIRELESS SECURITY specifically"... let him show you his "Cert Card", a small Credit Card-size of your Certification that we carry around in the purse in-case you need to "show-off". grin grin

That is when you would see and know the difference between a "cable Installer who dabbled into installing CCTV Cameras"... and a Security Expert who is qualified to install "safe" wireless Cameras.


Having said the above, "wired" cameras (like all wired networks) have their own advantages.
I still salute the courage of anyone who has not undergone the formal training and is still able to put something together, at an affordable price for the client.
We need to encourage them.



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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 10:31pm On Jan 25, 2017
kopell:
Stop if its a joke, in Naija when do they make these law?

The laws are there ..... but as we most of our laws, they are not ENFORCED by those charged with such responsibility, ...except if they want to collect bribe or have something in it for their pockets.

Its a sad reality!



Lastpage!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Bossman(m): 10:40pm On Jan 25, 2017
Well said. Very important to build for one's needs. I'm not competing with anyone.

lastpage:


This is the greatest advice anyone can give, for first time builders!
being one's first house, there is always that tendency for the "heart" to rule, instead of the "brain" with the result that we OVERBUILD!

Even if you can afford it, such sprawling "mansionic bungalow" becomes so unattractive to you in a few years time.
Its even worse if you are a diasporean!

My first build in life was a "massive" 7-bed Bungalow with a decking (where l hope to relax and watch the stars at night! grin )
I so much hate that building that l have abandoned it and refused to complete it while l built more modern houses elsewhere.
I hated it because l built it to impress/show-off,..... not for my needs and functionality.

First time builder should build "small and functional", you can even build for rent and then when you got more experience and are fully aware of your needs and taste, build something else.
You wont regret that method.

Dont be like me, take that advice.
But it is still your decision. Nice layout though.



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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 10:40pm On Jan 25, 2017
doyen1:
Can someone post the current prices of building materials or point me to where I can get them?


http://engineerosaz..com/

That link is a very good "approximate" .
...... but with the way prices are changing in Nigeria of today, l bet his webmaster cant be quicker to Update the prices.

All the same, you will get good guidance from many building materials from it.



Lastpage!

Please be nice..... dont forget to add the "please", next time. undecided kiss
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 10:46pm On Jan 25, 2017
Bossman:
Well said. Very important to build for one's needs. I'm not competing with anyone.


Na "Egun" talk am first, Credits goes to him.
I just massaged it more. grin grin

Happy that you bought into the idea



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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 3strikes: 11:04pm On Jan 25, 2017
There you go.............Thats the picture! grin grin grin grin grin

EgunMogaji:


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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 12:05am On Jan 26, 2017
EgunMogaji:


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this is your site?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 12:17am On Jan 26, 2017
Hajj mufu, I hope his excuse he gave was valid one?. In my humble opinion, he might be reading this thread anonymously and decided to be nice shocked grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:24am On Jan 26, 2017
Empiree:
this is your site?

Yes Sir.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:20am On Jan 26, 2017
Empiree:
Hajj mufu, I hope his excuse he gave was valid one?. In my humble opinion, he might be reading this thread anonymously and decided to be nice shocked grin

They have come to a billateral agreement for the work to be finished by next week when his balance will be paid and everybody will be happy. This time legal involvement is present. So far so good. Thank you all.

Special thanks to all my "Otelemuye" who dug him out.
"Small Body Big Engine" thank you very much.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:31am On Jan 26, 2017
kopell:
Hajji, may you live for ever Amin, you're always a peace resolution master. I love your style

Amen and thank you Sir.
I am only sorry the guy messed-up his reputation because he does good job and all his past clients have said good things about his work. Hopefully he finish this job and everyone move on.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 3:58am On Jan 26, 2017
EgunMogaji:


Yes Sir.
Why put flags, to deter hoodlums?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dearpiriye: 4:42am On Jan 26, 2017
ice4u999:


It was here on nairaland I realized how cheap it was to hand Mould block compared to buying straight from block companies.

Just by from buying blocks to moulding onsite, also increase quantity of bags of cement and also asking my contractor builder to be more detailed in his quotations saved me 300k during fencing of a second plot.

To work under cold for this country now easy o. Every single dollar you can save matters and can go towards other things because even multi million companies will take out that one dollar for failing to work one hour.

sorry to intrude but what of the case of cheating from buying sand, cement etc for the moulding and ? Isn't it better to just buy an exact amount and ensure the workers use it up for that day?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:52am On Jan 26, 2017
Empiree:
Why put flags, to deter hoodlums?

Not to deter, they each have deep private meanings to me. There's a third one that I won't fly until I'm living there full time.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ice4u999(m): 7:05am On Jan 26, 2017
dearpiriye:
sorry to intrude but what of the case of cheating from buying sand, cement etc for the moulding and ? Isn't it better to just buy an exact amount and ensure the workers use it up for that day?

Cost for cement is kind of standard, moulding varies from location to location and for sand definitely suppliers cheat but there are some nice guys on naira land that have earned my trust. But no matter how much you lost from purchase of materials for blocks, it is still very cheap to mould yours. At least you know for sure the bricklayer is using the right composition for the mould. Check out what I paid below to my builder to mould 2200 blocks compared to the 200 naira per block from block sellers and delivery my builder initially quoted for me (last year 2016)

To mould the 2,200 blocks 74 bags of cement 2,300 per bag =N170,200 3 tipper of sand 45,000 per tipper N135,000 labour 800 per bag N59,200 N4,000 total N368,400

My builder definitely added a little thing for himself which I am fine with because he delivered what he promised but Check out the money saved.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Qc1(m): 7:37am On Jan 26, 2017
EgunMogaji:
I feel very proud.

Carpenter wants N2,000 per 1x12 wood. I needed 18.

Went down to "Iso Pako" at New Garage and got it for N1,500.

Saved N9,000 (about 36 bottles of Star).

Of course this is chump change but goes to show new entrants ways you can extend your budget when you buy your materials.


EgunMogaji, is that Ibadan pricing?




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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Qc1(m): 7:53am On Jan 26, 2017
mufutau55:


They have come to a billateral agreement for the work to be finished by next week when his balance will be paid and everybody will be happy. This time legal involvement is present. So far so good. Thank you all.

Special thanks to all my "Otelemuye" who dug him out.
"Small Body Big Engine" thank you very much.

Hajji M.

This got me clowning. grin grin grin my belle oooooo....

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:04am On Jan 26, 2017
Qc1:


EgunMogaji, is that Ibadan pricing?

grin grin grin

Na so o my chief grin

Na oluyole dem born me na there I sabi.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Qc1(m): 8:26am On Jan 26, 2017
EgunMogaji:


Na so o my chief grin

Na oluyole dem born me na there I sabi.


^^^

Hmmm...wouldn't mind to visit. cheesy

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by NL1960: 9:05am On Jan 26, 2017
mufutau55:


They have come to a billateral agreement for the work to be finished by next week when his balance will be paid and everybody will be happy. This time legal involvement is present. So far so good. Thank you all.

Special thanks to all my "Otelemuye" who dug him out.
"Small Body Big Engine" thank you very much.

Hajji M.

Imagine. This means that the guy actually absconded and even went to the extent of changing numbers. Very foolish and stupid thing to do if that was what he actually did. If you are having issues, it is better to come out clean with your client.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by omotech: 9:07am On Jan 26, 2017
I never knew that, this thread is so informative and educative, even an eyes opener like this in terms of DIY I've learnt a lot for the past two days, despite the fact that I jumped several pages, it has helped me. thanx to everybody that make this thread bubling like this, for sharing ur expirences for others to benefit I really appreciate everybody I don't to mention names. with what I've learnt here I will start my own very soon and nobody can sheat me. GOD Bless you all. N:B pls don't mind my English ooooo

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by desiji: 9:31am On Jan 26, 2017
Hello can anyone tell me if one can get architraves for 9 inches Blocks in Naija and like how much they are going for either metal or wooden?

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