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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 2:04pm On Feb 09, 2017
Who is this months Barclay's coach and player?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TheNonce: 2:06pm On Feb 09, 2017
donjazet:


Are you trying to compare the French league to the EPL?


Did you ask this question when drogba, essien and hazard were moving from the french league to the premier league?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dyabman(m): 2:13pm On Feb 09, 2017
Can someone here convince me on how Lukaku is a suitable striker for CFC ??
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dyabman(m): 2:16pm On Feb 09, 2017
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 2:21pm On Feb 09, 2017
Most career games without getting a red card:
Raul 1,034
Iniesta - 750
Lahm - 730
Duff - 700
Benzema - 649
Platini - 655
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 2:37pm On Feb 09, 2017
TheNonce:



Did you ask this question when drogba, essien and hazard were moving from the french league to the premier league?
lordfalcao:
what is the difference with the French league and English league.. Just like when you lots compare hazard and messi two players in different league??.

I don't know how lukaku can be called elite striker and lacazette called way average.

You're aware that in awarding the European golden shoe, there is a metric done via UEFA coefficients. While the top leagues are divided by 2. The French league is regarded as a weaker league and their coefficient is 1.5. This was why Zlatan couldn't win the golden shoe. Hazard wasn't bought for his goal scoring , it was more of his play making and creativity. How many strikers from the French league apart from Drogba have made their name elsewhere or gone on to be very successful ?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 2:42pm On Feb 09, 2017
lordfalcao:
Most career games without getting a red card:
Raul 1,034
Iniesta - 750
Lahm - 730
Duff - 700
Benzema - 649
Platini - 655
hazard would have been on his way to being like this guys if not for that stupid swansea ball boy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 2:42pm On Feb 09, 2017
donjazet:


Are you trying to compare the French league to the EPL?

Drogba bossed Ligue 1 and still succeeded in EPL.

Hazard bossed Ligue 1 and still succeeded in EPL.

Ruud Van Nistlerooy bossed Dutch League and did the same in EPL.

Suarez bossed Dutch League and did the same in EPL.

Why can't Lacazzette replicate his Ligue 1 form in EPL?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TheNonce: 2:47pm On Feb 09, 2017
donjazet:


You're aware that in awarding the European golden shoe, there is a metric done via UEFA coefficients. While the top leagues are divided by 2. The French league is regarded as a weaker league and their coefficient is 1.5. This was why Zlatan couldn't win the golden shoe. Hazard wasn't bought for his goal scoring , it was more of his play making and creativity. How many strikers from the French league apart from Drogba have made their name elsewhere or gone on to be very successful ?



I don't even understand why you had to lump my post in with lordfalcaos own because I am just asking you a logical question! If drogba and BENZEMA/ZLATAN were successful why can't some other sap from the same league do the same? All that co efficient crap never matters once you get in front of goal!


I'm not a fan of the french ligue but i'm a fan of giving talent a platform to blossom! Everyone deserves a chance to prove they can chop it up in the big time...and you guys actually need strikers! Even us...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 2:55pm On Feb 09, 2017
donjazet:


You're aware that in awarding the European golden shoe, there is a metric done via UEFA coefficients. While the top leagues are divided by 2. The French league is regarded as a weaker league and their coefficient is 1.5. This was why Zlatan couldn't win the golden shoe. Hazard wasn't bought for his goal scoring , it was more of his play making and creativity. How many strikers from the French league apart from Drogba have made their name elsewhere or gone on to be very successful ?
how does this post relates to the reason lukaku is elite while lacazette is average?

Drogba, benzema, Ibrahimovic all came from league 1 and are successful. Lukaku came from a poor league like Belgium and is doing fine.

Why won't lacazette do fine in EPL??

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 2:56pm On Feb 09, 2017
donjazet:


You're aware that in awarding the European golden shoe, there is a metric done via UEFA coefficients. While the top leagues are divided by 2. The French league is regarded as a weaker league and their coefficient is 1.5. This was why Zlatan couldn't win the golden shoe. Hazard wasn't bought for his goal scoring , it was more of his play making and creativity. How many strikers from the French league apart from Drogba have made their name elsewhere or gone on to be very successful ?

So because of UEFA coefficient one cannot buy a proven goal scorer from a 'weaker league'?

Why did you 'apart' Drogba in your question? Isn't he from that same 'weaker league'? Benzema and Thierry Henry made name elsewhere too.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 3:06pm On Feb 09, 2017
Greatihex:

hazard would have been on his way to being like this guys if not for that stupid swansea ball boy
what of Pedro and William? Have they gotten a red card?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 3:22pm On Feb 09, 2017
timbros:


So because of UEFA coefficient one cannot buy a proven goal scorer from a 'weaker league'?

Why did you 'apart' Drogba in your question? Isn't he from that same 'weaker league'? Benzema and Thierry Henry made name elsewhere too.

There was a time these leagues were actually strong. Same can't be said now but that's by the way.
I am of the opinion that the French league is not the league that should be used as a yard stick to rate a striker RIGHT NOW. and UEFA'S goal coefficients supports this.
I once read an article on why Chelsea didn't send our midfielders or strikers to the French league.. This was also down to the strength of the league.(note that it's for those sent abroad).

Just as the Italians are known for their defense and the Spanish known for the midfielders. The French league has been known not to produce good STRIKERS. There might be just a sprinkle of them like Drogba and Henry but that is not a norm.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:36pm On Feb 09, 2017
TheNonce:
Same could be said about drogba before he moved to chelsea innit? Sometimes a change in scenery and competition can improve or inhibit a player! He won't cost much so it looks like a safe bet for you guys! Anyway benzema is also for sale!

Then I will say you didnt see Drogba in Marseille
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 3:37pm On Feb 09, 2017
lordfalcao:
Lacazette league goals since

2013-2014 : 15 goals.
2014-2015 : 27 goals
2015-2016 : 21 goals
2016- 2017 : 19 goals.

Lukaku since in the league.

2013- 2014: 15 goals
2014- 2015: 10 goals
2015-2016 : 18 goals
2016 - 2017 16 goals

Lukaku is Elite striker, lacazette is way below average.

You all need to grow up and ditch these Fantasy Football punditry. No sane pundit sees Lacazette as an elite forward, I am only hearing that crap on a Nigerian forum.

What qualifies him to be one?

Right from the day Laca decided to go professional till 2013, he only managed to find the net 15 times in God knows how many seasons. He only started finishing the season on double figures from 2013/14. Is that how elite he is?

The guy is 25-years-old and is on 91 career league goals. Lukaku who is two years younger has already found the net 109 times on the domestic scene. The former doesn't know what his national team jersey looks like, whilst the latter is trusted with the responsibility of goal-scoring in his team.

I dont know about you, but i am really sure Lacazette is of the knowledge that where he's headed in life, a younger Lukaku has already gotten there.

Lacazette ko Cassette ni.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 3:37pm On Feb 09, 2017
dyabman:
Can someone here convince me on how Lukaku is a suitable striker for CFC ??


He's Black and he has a Big Dìck, I'm sure Conte has a fetish for those...But NVM ADEBAYOOOOOO AKINFEEWWWAAAA the Beast is where it's at. cool

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 3:39pm On Feb 09, 2017
donjazet:


Are you trying to compare the French league to the EPL?

35yr old Zlatan says hi
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CONTEDDICTED: 3:58pm On Feb 09, 2017
Lacazette Ko, Lacasera ni


Nonsense
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 3:58pm On Feb 09, 2017
Griffon:


You all need to grow up and ditch these Fantasy Football punditry. No sane pundit sees Lacazette as an elite forward, I am only hearing that crap on a Nigerian forum.

What qualifies him to be one?

Right from the day Laca decided to go professional till 2013, he only managed to find the net 15 times in God knows how many seasons. He only started finishing the season on double figures from 2013/14. Is that how elite he is?

The guy is 25-years-old and is on 97 career league goals. Lukaku who is two years younger has already found the net 109 times on the domestic scene. The former doesn't know what his national team jersey looks like, whilst the latter is trusted with the responsibility of goal-scoring in his team.

I dont know about you, but i am really sure Lacazette is of the knowledge that where he's headed in life, a younger Lukaku has already gotten there.

Lacazette ko Cassette ni.
firstly, I won't call you a sane pundit because no sane pundit sees lukaku an Elite striker and sees lacazette as an average Joe.

Secondly, you needs to get your facts right. I don't know the site that told you lacazette has 15 goals from ligue 1 since 2013, stop spewing rubbish. Over the last 4 seasons lacazette has been posting double digit goals in the league more than lukaku. Lacazette has a total of 91 league goals and 31 assist to his name despite playing lasser number of matches. While lukaku is on 109 league goals which includes his time in ( Anderlecht, westbrom, everton)

You don't have enough excuses to call lukaku a better striker than lacazette. The two are average joes.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 4:03pm On Feb 09, 2017
CONTEDDICTED:
Lacazette Ko, Lacasera ni


Nonsense
it might also be in your interest to know that Icardi is the poorest among the trio lukaku lacazette icardi.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CONTEDDICTED: 4:11pm On Feb 09, 2017
lordfalcao:
it might also be in your interest to know that Icardi is the poorest among the trio lukaku lacazette icardi.
Whatever you say sir.. .Whatever
M tired of flooring you when it comes to judging players


Let it rest. ...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 4:21pm On Feb 09, 2017
CONTEDDICTED:

Whatever you say sir.. .Whatever
M tired of flooring you when it comes to judging players


Let it rest. ...
goals is the matrix to judging strikers first before any other thing.

If you bring it to goals lacazette shames icardi mercilessly on that. If you take it to overall play, lacazette shames him again.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:26pm On Feb 09, 2017
Manchester City midfielder Kevin De Bruyne was voted the Best Belgian Player in a Foreign League for 2016 ahead of Chelsea's Eden Hazard and Atletico Madrid's Yannick Carrasco.

De Bruyne picked up the title for a second consecutive year after helping City reach the semifinals of the Champions League and was presented with the award by Thierry Henry.

http://www.espnfc.us/manchester-city/story/3056805/kevin-de-bruyne-named-best-belgian-player-in-a-foreign-league

For 2 yrs in a row KdB has won ahead of Hidden Ikedia Hazard the one comparable to Messi and Adokiye Amesimaka
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 4:35pm On Feb 09, 2017
raumdeuter:
Manchester City midfielder Kevin De Bruyne was voted the Best Belgian Player in a Foreign League for 2016 ahead of Chelsea's Eden Hazard and Atletico Madrid's Yannick Carrasco.

De Bruyne picked up the title for a second consecutive year after helping City reach the semifinals of the Champions League and was presented with the award by Thierry Henry.

http://www.espnfc.us/manchester-city/story/3056805/kevin-de-bruyne-named-best-belgian-player-in-a-foreign-league

For 2 yrs in a row KdB has won ahead of Hidden Ikedia Hazard the one comparable to Messi and Adokiye Amesimaka
is it not like the same way coutinho was voted ahead of neymar ?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 4:41pm On Feb 09, 2017
lordfalcao:
is it not like the same way coutinho was voted ahead of neymar ?

That was because Coutinho was in a particularly good form at that time and Neymar wasnt

But Hidden is been touted to be in the best form of his career and KdB has even cooled off a little

Yet KdB beats Hidden for 2 yrs in a row. 2yrs in a row
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 4:41pm On Feb 09, 2017
lordfalcao:
firstly, I won't call you a sane pundit because no sane pundit sees lukaku an Elite striker and sees lacazette as an average Joe.

Secondly, you needs to get your facts right. I don't know the site that told you lacazette has 15 goals from ligue 1 since 2013, stop spewing rubbish. Over the last 4 seasons lacazette has been posting double digit goals in the league more than lukaku. Lacazette has a total of 91 league goals and 31 assist to his name despite playing lasser number of matches. While lukaku is on 109 league goals which includes his time in ( Anderlecht, westbrom, everton)

You don't have enough excuses to call lukaku a better striker than lacazette. The two are average joes.

Na glaucoma dey worry you? I wrote right there, prior to the season of 2013/14, Lacazette never hit double figure anywhere.

When he was busy scratching 6 goals a season, Lukaku don already begin bag in goals in double figures for Anderlecht.

Them no be mates, so go siddon.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 4:53pm On Feb 09, 2017
Griffon:


Na glaucoma dey worry you? I wrote right there, prior to the season of 2013/14, Lacazette never hit double figure anywhere.

When he was busy scratching 6 goals a season, Lukaku don already begin bag in goals in double figures for Anderlecht.

Them no be mates, so go siddon.

Lacazette 19 goals in 20 league appearance. Go and deal with it.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 4:55pm On Feb 09, 2017
raumdeuter:


That was because Coutinho was in a particularly good form at that time and Neymar wasnt

But Hidden is been touted to be in the best form of his career and KdB has even cooled off a little

Yet KdB beats Hidden for 2 yrs in a row. 2yrs in a row
neymar was in good form last year, he went to the same competition with coutinho last year. Countinho clearly outperformed him.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TheNonce: 5:59pm On Feb 09, 2017
raumdeuter:


Then I will say you didnt see Drogba in Marseille





So it was his 1st and only season at Marseille that made him a risk worth taking? Because from 1998 till 2003(5 years) he made 109 appearances across 2 clubs and only scored 32 goals!

So based on your logic which season should lacazette or Belloti be signed on? Or let the blues keep waiting till they both have a "drogbaesque season?"
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by weedtaker: 6:30pm On Feb 09, 2017
lukaku elite shocked

dat one don play UCL b4

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:37pm On Feb 09, 2017
lordfalcao:
neymar was in good form last year, he went to the same competition with coutinho last year. Countinho clearly outperformed him.

Which competition was this that COutinho and Neymar went for last year?

Beginning of this season when the vote was taken Coutinho was in better form
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:43pm On Feb 09, 2017
TheNonce:
So it was his 1st and only season at Marseille that made him a risk worth taking? Because from 1998 till 2003(5 years) he made 109 appearances across 2 clubs and only scored 32 goals!

So based on your logic which season should lacazette or Belloti be signed on? Or let the blues keep waiting till they both have a "drogbaesque season?"

A footballer is measured based on his recent form not his form 5yrs ago

Before that season in Marseille he has scored well for Guingamp in his final season. 17 league goals in his final season was why Marseille bought him and he ended that season as one of the best strikers in Europe I think he even won the Onze d'or for 2004 with his performance

Its like Diego Costa. Before his final season at Atletico he spent most of his career as a mediocre striker for lower clubs. Yet Chelsea bought him after just that one great season in Atletico

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