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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CONTEDDICTED:
lalaboi:
1 - The point was 5 at the back is not an assurance of conceding less. Examples Everton, Liverpool under Rodgers vs Arsenal!

2 - Hazard suffered dip in form? answer your own question of why did it happen, you said it was due to the opposition formation? same opposition formation that allowed Willian and Pedro to shine during that period. He lost form i pointed it out, dont cook up annoying reasons as to why,, must we always find an excuse for Hazard?
O yes, lets applaud Fabregas for assisting against one of the leakiest defense in the league. undecided

3-See what i mean ? #DeliberatelyBlind. Was Kante great when he was being tossed around by Wanyama and Dembele? But there's no point nitpicking, he has been superb overall.

4 - See question? For a player who's highest ever assist in the same DM position was 2 or 3(title winning season) at best but now has 6! Haba. omo eniyan! If you won't give him glo/airtel. . give him this credit! Kante is as involved attacking-wise with Matic, how many does he have?
Willian and Pedro were not magnificent when Hazard was off.. ..The only great game Willian had was against stoke and Hazard was top class that day
Incase you haven't noticed our Front 3 haven't been prolific of recent, it's not just Hazard

We created a single Chance in 80mins against Liverpool and Fabregas created 2 good chances in the last 10mins of the game. ....How is Hazard supposed to function in a team in which he is the only creative player



2- The question you should be asking is when Dembele and Wanyama were washing Kante, where was his partner? You can't get dribbled and bullied if you are not there in the first place
His partner is supposed to be strong and covering distance right? He was hardly near Dembele that night

3- There is no way in hell Matic contributes more to our attack than Kante
You guys mention the 6 assists thing like it came as a result of through balls or something.. ...We are talking about corner flick ons and simple 25m passes under zero pressure

Hope you know there is a big difference between protecting a back 4 and a 'back 6'.....Dont compare his assists in those two positions,Matic has just the front 3 ahead of him so you expect his attacking score to improve.. ....He would never have been in those positions to record those awoof assists against Spurs and United if he was protecting a back 4
If you are to give anyone in our team the 'AM' tag in this setup, who would it be?



You can argue that Conte plays him and he knows better but Conte is playing him because of his profile not because of his inputs........A tall,strong and roaming CM suits the setup better than a weak creative genius with little defensive input....All in theory
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by lordfalcao(m): 10:54am On Feb 16, 2017
El Neny grin grin grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by landinfo: 7:11pm On Feb 16, 2017
Chelseafan1:
Kindly help me find the guy who told us that Arsenal defenders and midfielders are useless when Hazard scored against them few days ago.
U are a demon, boy u are wicked......I felt this punch line in my soul not heart...my soul gon gon gon
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 7:12pm On Feb 16, 2017
Funlordmaniac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeM4c7lTeMY


For those that missed "assnal tv"! grin
I can't miss this. Boommarked for later grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by dyabman(m): 7:27pm On Feb 16, 2017
Ibime:
I can't miss this. Boommarked for later grin
I just saw it now and all I can say is assnal fans should keep calm and join the famous Blue side of London. ! grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Chelseafan1: 8:44pm On Feb 16, 2017
landinfo:
U are a demon, boy u are wicked......I felt this punch line in my soul not heart...my soul gon gon gon
Leave that apari alone with all his nonsense.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by lordfalcao(m): 8:53pm On Feb 16, 2017
This is me lordfalcao reporting from Netherlands shocked

Bringing to you lacazette alert cheesy cheesy

2 goals tonight grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:47pm On Feb 16, 2017
dyabman:
I just saw it now and all I can say is assnal fans should keep calm and join the famous Blue side of London. ! grin
Boys are not smiling at all grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by pamcode(m): 11:23pm On Feb 16, 2017
Ibime:
I can't miss this. Boommarked for later grin
lol man i didnt know londoners were this crazy. This one must be street weaned lol.
I clicked on the link and saw other videos and God it was bad though some seem to still have their courtesy in place (e.g Bully), one guy there said he was happy he didn’t bring his fücking children to watch the match, Another one trying to be civil said they made Alonso look like he was 25 again.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by pamcode(m): 11:26pm On Feb 16, 2017
By the way I noticed that even with the heavy clothing and gloves the people interviewed there still seemed quite chilled, is it still that bloody cold?
Cc Ibime, Nihilist and other guys in Europe.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by pamcode(m): 11:46pm On Feb 16, 2017
More from Arsenal TV- we were told after we moved to the new stadium that by 2015 we would be competiting with bayern Munich well the only way we are competiting with bayern Munich is that we got better toilets than them.
Lol grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:54pm On Feb 16, 2017
pamcode:
lol man i didnt know londoners were this crazy. This one must be street weaned lol.
I clicked on the link and saw other videos and God it was bad though some seem to still have their courtesy in place (e.g Bully), one guy there said he was happy he didn’t bring his fücking children to watch the match, Another one trying to be civil said they made Alonso look like he was 25 again.
That guy is doing alright off this Arsenalfan TV o. By my reckoning he's getting close to 3m views a week. You collect roughly £1k net after taxes for every 1m views so you do the maths. Even non Arsenal fans watch those guys for the comedy. This is why he likes to get funny characters on the show like Troopz so the videos can go viral. They even have one Nigerian guy called Kelechi on there just for comedy effect

By nature, North London has always been an inclusive society so black guys have been hardcore fans of Arsenal since time immemorial. Even when other clubs barely had black fans, they have felt at home at Arsenal. . . including 'road men' like some of those boys on ArsenalTV.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Griffon: 10:55am On Feb 17, 2017
Mark Clattenburg
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by johnstar(m): 12:33pm On Feb 17, 2017
raumdeuter:
Are Arsenal defenders not useless? Which other team will concede 5 goals in the CL and their keeper still made like 5 top saves
Choi, peter cech oooo


Him don suffer, c as dm make world class petee cech look average for d game
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CONTEDDICTED: 4:20pm On Feb 17, 2017
Blame me if Baker, Solanke and Loftus-Cheek aren't English internationals in three years' - Jose 2014

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CONTEDDICTED:
Jose and his phobia of playing anything young

M sure that's why he doesn't play Ashley Young


If he was a Nigerian m sure he would hardly listen to Olamide and Lil kesh cause he won't play Young John

If he was the CEO of YBNL, Young John would have gone on loan
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by SIRcumalot: 4:47pm On Feb 17, 2017
CONTEDDICTED:
Jose and his phobia for playing anything young

M sure that's why he doesn't play Ashley Young


If he was a Nigerian m sure he would hardly listen to Olamide and Lil kesh cause he won't play Young John

If he was the CEO of YBNL, Young John would have gone on loan
Rashidi dey start well-well before Martial thief him spot like two games back. So no phobia.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by CONTEDDICTED: 5:03pm On Feb 17, 2017
SIRcumalot:
Rashidi dey start well-well before Martial thief him spot like two games back. So no phobia.
Jose has a way of fooling his fans when it comes to promoting youth

Don't worry.. .we were in your shoes, you can't understand now cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by SIRcumalot: 5:19pm On Feb 17, 2017
CONTEDDICTED:
Jose has a way of fooling his fans when it comes to promoting youth

Don't worry.. .we were in your shoes, you can't understand now cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Maybe this not playing youth thing no be only Jose,your club get in own for body,after all I no remember the youth wey flourish in the times Jose no manage una.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc2: 6:15pm On Feb 17, 2017
How many youth team players have come through to the senior team in Chelsea in the non-Jose years? Chelsea in the last 20-25 years has not been known for youth team products Jose or no Jose.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 6:28pm On Feb 17, 2017
afrodoc2:
How many youth team players have come through to the senior team in Chelsea in the non-Jose years? Chelsea in the last 20-25 years has not been known for youth team products Jose or no Jose.
In the pre Roman era there were some youth here and there. like Jody Morris the Lampard lite, Carlton Cole, Keenan, Robert Huth and most were shown out before Jose completed his first tenure

From Roman lets say 15yrs, Jose has coached for like half of that. The next coach in tenure is Carlo with 2 seasons. In the last 20yrs only Terry can be said to have come from the youth setup thats why he was sustained for long despite several mediocre performances to hang on to the Mr Chelsea from academy tag
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 6:39pm On Feb 17, 2017
The only youth player Chelsea let go that was good enough was Lassana Diarra, and he asked to leave.

Robert Huth was a good 4th choice CB but you can't keep a young player as 4th choice for his whole career. He needs to go out there and make his career.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc2: 6:41pm On Feb 17, 2017
raumdeuter:
In the pre Roman era there were some youth here and there. like Jody Morris the Lampard lite, Carlton Cole, Keenan, Robert Huth and most were shown out before Jose completed his first tenure

From Roman lets say 15yrs, Jose has coached for like half of that. The next coach in tenure is Carlo with 2 seasons. In the last 20yrs only Terry can be said to have come from the youth setup thats why he was sustained for long despite several mediocre performances to hang on to the Mr Chelsea from academy tag
Every team produces a few youth team players now and then. It is also easy for small and mid level teams to groom youth team players and Chelsea pre Roman belonged to that category.
But the teams known for grooming youth will do so whether they are battling relegation or fighting for titles. Chelsea is not known for that.
Otu oshi players like Gibson, O'Shea, Luke Chadwick played more matches for United than talents like Mcceachran at Chelsea.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 6:50pm On Feb 17, 2017
afrodoc2:
Every team produces a few youth team players now and then. It is also easy for small and mid level teams to groom youth team players and Chelsea pre Roman belonged to that category.
But the teams known for grooming youth will do so whether they are battling relegation or fighting for titles. Chelsea is not known for that.
Otu oshi players like Gibson, O'Shea, Luke Chadwick played more matches for United than talents like Mcceachran at Chelsea.
I think a coach determines whether you groom or not, Van Gaal in Madrid will look for youths even if its from the street and coaches like Mourinho on the other side dont have that much patience.

If Van Gaal was the coach of Chelsea for the Mourinho years, they most likely wot win as much but theyll have more youths

In many cases winning and promoting youths are like 2 sides, you can only have oe unless you are fortunate
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc2: 6:57pm On Feb 17, 2017
raumdeuter:
I think a coach determines whether you groom or not, Van Gaal in Madrid will look for youths even if its from the street and coaches like Mourinho on the other side dont have that much patience.

If Van Gaal was the coach of Chelsea for the Mourinho years, they most likely wot win as much but theyll have more youths

In many cases winning and promoting youths are like 2 sides, you can only have oe unless you are fortunate
The point is that when Mourinho was in far away Milan and Madrid Chelsea still did not produce any youth team player.
The constant k is not JM but Roman who is ready to sack coaches at any time. All Chelsea managers by default are on borrowed time and sitting on time bombs. In that scenario how many coaches will want to groom youth knowing that such a policy might lose you matches in the short term and as a consequence lose you your job.
You think if SAF did not have job security he would have pushed out Mark Hughes, Paul ince, kanchelskis et al en masse just to blood his Fergie's fledglings ?

P.S This is not in any way denying the fact that the risk averse JM does not really give youth players enough opportunity. I am just stating that Chelsea's problem with youth promotion goes beyond JM
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Dhellake: 6:59pm On Feb 17, 2017
CONTEDDICTED:
Jose has a way of fooling his fans when it comes to promoting youth

Don't worry.. .we were in your shoes, you can't understand now cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
It's always nice to see Man Utd fans come up with these arguments. We Chelsea fans were twice there too.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Dhellake: 7:02pm On Feb 17, 2017
Ibime:
The only youth player Chelsea let go that was good enough was Lassana Diarra, and he asked to leave.

Robert Huth was a good 4th choice CB but you can't keep a young player as 4th choice for his whole career. He needs to go out there and make his career.
How about Glen Johnson?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 7:04pm On Feb 17, 2017
Dhellake:
How about Glen Johnson?
We bought him from West Ham. He actually played quite regular but made so many defensive mistakes.

Oh I forgot Bertrand at Southampton.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 7:08pm On Feb 17, 2017
Solanke scored 5 goals in Dutch league and asked for £50k per week. I don't blame him, I blame who gave RLC £60k per week. He's a powderpuff soft striker anyway. Whoever signs him should just pay us our £8m compensation.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 7:13pm On Feb 17, 2017
afrodoc2:
The point is that when Mourinho was in far away Milan and Madrid Chelsea still did not produce any youth team player.
The constant k is not JM but Roman who is ready to sack coaches at any time. All Chelsea managers by default are on borrowed time and sitting on time bombs. In that scenario how many coaches will want to groom youth knowing that such a policy might lose you matches in the short term and as a consequence lose you your job.
You think if SAF did not have job security he would have pushed out Mark Hughes, Paul ince, kanchelskis et al en masse just to blood his Fergie's fledglings ?

P.S This is not in any way denying the fact that the risk averse JM does not really give youth players enough opportunity. I am just stating that Chelsea's problem with youth promotion goes beyond JM
While JM was away how many coaches spent up to a full year in Chelsea
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by afrodoc2: 7:28pm On Feb 17, 2017
raumdeuter:
While JM was away how many coaches spent up to a full year in Chelsea
You are clutching at straws in order to blame your enemy Mourinho.
How many decades did Giggs, Moyes and Van Gaal manage at United before blooding player after player.
That instability tells you that the problem is with decision makers at the top.
The fact is that in the 18 yrs since JT made his debut Chelsea has not produced any youth team regular in the team and Mourinho managed only 6 of those years...... what happened to the other 12 years ?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter:
afrodoc2:
You are clutching at straws in order to blame your enemy Mourinho.
How many decades did Giggs, Moyes and Van Gaal manage at United before blooding player after player.
That instability tells you that the problem is with decision makers at the top.
The fact is that in the 18 yrs since JT made his debut Chelsea has not produced any youth team regular in the team and Mourinho managed only 6 of those years...... what happened to the other 12 years ?
In the other 12yrs only Ranieri had enough time and he blooded like huth and co until Mourinho booted them out

Shebi van gaal had 2yrs at man utd, in Chelsea The other part of the 12yrs
After Mourinho, Avram Grant spent 8 months left for Scolari who spent 6 months and left for Hiddink
Hiddink spent 6 months and left for Carlo

Carlo spent 2 yrs and left for Avb who spent 8 months and left for RDM who spent 8 months and left for Benitez who spent 6 months and left for Mourinho who did 2 and half years. Back to Hiddink for 6 months now to Conte

Summary the only coaches who have spent a season in the past 15yrs at Chelsea are 2 Mourinho and Carlo. If Conte finishes this season he will be the 3rd longest serving coach at Chelsea since 2004. 13yrs ago.

So if Mourinho who spent 6yrs didn't blood anyone is it coaches who spent 6 months?
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