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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by Dedetwo(m): 4:22pm On Mar 11, 2017
Amarabae:
oga, we must save ourself first before trying to save those who don't want our help.
You can't force refrendum on people who never asked for one. Its not logical.
I believe in mutual relationship. Igbos have done a lot for the minorities, what have they done for us.
Support a homogenous Igbo country if you want Nigeria to break.

The idea of Igbo nation has been my plank. However, there are certain people in the so-called south-south Ndigbo should never turn their backs on them.

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by DocHMD: 4:23pm On Mar 11, 2017
kropotkin2:
You underestimate the strength and resilience of the Nigerian state. Nigeria is going to exist with its present borders long after you, i or IPOB are long gone. God bless the federal republic of Nigeria

If only wishes were horses....

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by TimeManager(m): 4:24pm On Mar 11, 2017
What the hell do you mean by "the Yoruba speaking areas of kwara??.. Kwara is 100% yoruba land. E be like say to chop cane dey hungry you abi...
Kiss the truth!
Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by ImperialYoruba: 4:25pm On Mar 11, 2017
Amarabae:
Greetings!
I want to contribute to the ongoing Ipob issue, I think that Nairaland is a good platform to do that.
IPOB have succeded in enshring their biafran ideology into the DNA of their core fellowers, thats why you can hear some of them saying BIAFRA OR DEATH.
I have asked myself, is anything wrong with Ipob ideology of self independence, and the answer is NO!
But there is a problem, which is their Methodology!
And we will discuss this under three scope,
1. SOUTH SOUTH MINORITES
2. PROTESTS
3. IGBO NATION.

SOUTH SOUTH MINORITES: Just as Ipob feel that they have the right to decide on what they want,is the same way,the SS minorities also have the right to make their decisions.
and on the issue of Biafra, They have said NO to the agitation.
using Eastern region as a bait to force anyone into an unwanted agitation is certainly silly.
present day Delta and Edo were part of western nigeria with the yorubas,yet anytime Oduduwa voice goes out,they restrict it to 6 southwest states and the yoruba speaking areas of kogi and kwara.
The eastern region is gone, if the Ijaws,Ogonis,Efiks etc don't want Biafra, their decision should be respected and not abused.
I see them as Igbo neighbours and thats where it ends!
Igbos attaching these minorities to Biafra agitation is WRONGLY portraying Igbos as beggers! Thats why you see some of these SS minorities insulting Igbos on Social Media.
IPOB caused it.
Asari dokubo supporting Biafra means nothing, and There will NEVER be any refrendum on the Land of these SS minorities because they never asked for any.
IPOB should respect their decision.

2) PROTESTS: Since nnamdi kanu was arrested, ther have been many protests calling for his release, but has that released Nnamdi Kanu? NO.
Instead we have been seeing some Igbo young men send to their graves by the trigger happy Nigeria army.
my people, This is Africa where human rights are not respected, so why exposing yourselves to danger in the name of protest?
Since you people have been shot at in protest rally, is there any justice yet?
This is a country where gunfire were open on hundreds of shittes and nothing happens.
why must you present yourself to the enemy for you to be shot in the name of protest.
It is not the strongest animal that survives the jungle but the wiseast
Diplomacy is not in the Africa DNA!
3) IGBO NATION: why not agitate for an Igbo nation? European countries are succeding because they are mainly homogenous, why trying to leave Nigeria to another heterogenous country,
Had it been Ojukwu took the Igbos alone in 1967,he would have succeded.
if incase Nigeria breaks,I will love a homogenous Igbo country with Igbo language as lingua franca and also teaching our children Art,Science and Technology in Igbo language.
Thats the secret of western world dominance in Technology, A Homogenous nation.
I will round up by saying that BUHARI SHOULD RELEASE NNAMDI KANU.

No insults pls, contribute maturely.
thanks.…
You are free to share.
Amarachi.

Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by DocHMD: 4:25pm On Mar 11, 2017
Amarabae:
oga, we must save ourself first before trying to save those who don't want our help.
You can't force refrendum on people who never asked for one. Its not logical.
I believe in mutual relationship. Igbos have done a lot for the minorities, what have they done for us.
Support a homogenous Igbo country if you want Nigeria to break.

Did Kanu say he was going to put a gun on the head of minorites and force a referendum on them like nigeria is currently doing to everyone in order preserve this shithole?
Why must unity be by force?

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by DocHMD: 4:26pm On Mar 11, 2017
TheDEVlLHimseIf:
[s][/s]
be a man dude grin
you're the one suffering from heartbreak and frustration after your ex left you for a better man.
who wants saddist as a husband
tufiakwa

Is this true or are you joking?

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by wristbangle: 4:33pm On Mar 11, 2017
Amarabae, You have made a diplomatic article which is bereft of hatred and pure tribalism.

To be honest with you, your statement will never sink into the mind of some Pharaoh hearted people who doesn't care the level of mess the agitation for biafra will cause with which some minors never shared in their aggrieved ideology.

Also, I don't know if you are trying to play a heroine role but your views, perhaps ideologies will turn against you as this thread will end up in the usual afonja and Ipod bashing.

Once again, your article is on point. Probably if you want it to grace FP, u can knock mynd44 or lalasticlala door.

Warm regards.

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by victorvezx(m): 4:39pm On Mar 11, 2017
kingzizzy:


That is what the agitation is all about, to get the authorities to see the reason for a referendum as a peaceful way of resolving a dispute. Nobody is under any illusion that it will be easy. However, anyone thinking that things will continue as it is in Nigeria is living in the past.
Dispute? Lol. How can Nigeria be in dispute with u people over the so called biafran territory that was Nigeria territory since in the beginning even before Biafra ever existed. We fought Biafra and win the civil and re-annexed our territory back. Maybe u should go study Nigerian history before u start calling this matter a dispute. U must be dreaming if u think Nigeria giving Biafra is even in our agenda.
Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by Amarabae(f): 4:40pm On Mar 11, 2017
Dedetwo:


The idea of Igbo nation has been my plank. However, there are certain people in the so-called south-south Ndigbo should never turn their backs on them.
Oga, things have changed, pls let these minorities be. They are old enough to make their choice.
They should be the one proposing alliance, not the other way round.

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by Nobody: 4:41pm On Mar 11, 2017
DocHMD:


If only wishes were horses....
you are the one doing the wishing here. Nigeria is a fact while Biafra is an illusion

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by Fx55(m): 4:46pm On Mar 11, 2017
Amarabae:
oga, we must save ourself first before trying to save those who don't want our help.
You can't force refrendum on people who never asked for one. Its not logical.
I believe in mutual relationship. Igbos have done a lot for the minorities, what have they done for us.
Support a homogenous Igbo country if you want Nigeria to break.
My goodness me!

What exactly is your argument? Where did 'force' come into the agitation? Biafra is founded on the principles and core values of freedom and self-determination.

Are you more Biafran than the young Akwa-Ibom boy who was shot dead in the PortHarcourt rally and was buried a few weeks ago? Your stance and comments desecrates the memory of that young man, his family and whatever they believe in. It is THEIR right to choose where they want to belong. Allow THEM to make that choice by THEMSELVES and for THEMSELVES.

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by DocHMD: 4:52pm On Mar 11, 2017
kropotkin2:
you are the one doing the wishing here. Nigeria is a fact while Biafra is an illusion

The greatest utopia one can have is to believe nigeria will exist forever with the present facts on ground.

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by Amarabae(f): 4:53pm On Mar 11, 2017
Fx55:
My goodness me!

What exactly is your argument? Where did 'force' come into the agitation? Biafra is founded on the principles and core values of freedom and self-determination.

Are you more Biafran than the young Akwa-Ibom boy who was shot dead in the PortHarcourt rally and was buried a few weeks ago? Your stance and comments desecrates the memory of that young man, his family and whatever they believe in. It is THEIR right to choose where they want to belong. Allow THEM to make that choice by THEMSELVES and for THEMSELVES.
lets assume a refrendum is called today and the Minorities vote NO while the Igbos vote YES, due to Igbos huge population, Yes Outnumber No, will it be that Biafra will be declared and the minorities will be included in it since they lost the refrendum? ANSWER ME

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by Dedetwo(m): 5:01pm On Mar 11, 2017
Amarabae:
Oga, things have changed, pls let these minorities be. They are old enough to make their choice.
They should be the one proposing alliance, not the other way round.

Not everything is said or announced in the open!!! The body language and participation in certain dangerous engagement are enough to satisfy a nut.

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by Fx55(m): 5:08pm On Mar 11, 2017
Amarabae:
lets assume a refrendum is called today and the Minorities vote NO while the Igbos vote YES, due to Igbos huge population, Yes Outnumber No, will it be that Biafra will be declared and the minorities will be included in it since they lost the refrendum? ANSWER ME
You still don't get it, do you? The votes will be held according to the subgroups that make up the proposed Biafra. If the majority of their people vote against joining Biafra, then it is their choice and we have to respect that choice. That is the exact reason for holding referendum...

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by nonsobaba: 5:11pm On Mar 11, 2017
Adiola:
nonsobaba continue with your work
Are u insinuating that I am now Amarabae or what is this suppose to mean?
Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by kingzizzy: 5:19pm On Mar 11, 2017
victorvezx:

Dispute? Lol. How can Nigeria be in dispute with u people over the so called biafran territory that was Nigeria territory since in the beginning even before Biafra ever existed. We fought Biafra and win the civil and re-annexed our territory back. Maybe u should go study Nigerian history before u start calling this matter a dispute. U must be dreaming if u think Nigeria giving Biafra is even in our agenda.

What territory? You think Nigeria is your territory? It is not. Nigeria is the territory of Lord Frederick Lugard. He created that territory for the purpose of holding people against their will. Nigeria has carried on that purpose to this day, the only difference is that Lugard has long gone back home. Those he forced into his illegal colonial creation called Nigeria will keep agitating until they get back their freedom and sovereignty that was officially stolen in 1914

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by Nobody: 5:36pm On Mar 11, 2017
well said amarabae
Amarabae:
Greetings!
I want to contribute to the ongoing Ipob issue, I think that Nairaland is a good platform to do that.
IPOB have succeded in enshring their biafran ideology into the DNA of their core fellowers, thats why you can hear some of them saying BIAFRA OR DEATH.
I have asked myself, is anything wrong with Ipob ideology of self independence, and the answer is NO!
But there is a problem, which is their Methodology!
And we will discuss this under three scope,
1. SOUTH SOUTH MINORITES
2. PROTESTS
3. IGBO NATION.

SOUTH SOUTH MINORITES: Just as Ipob feel that they have the right to decide on what they want,is the same way,the SS minorities also have the right to make their decisions.
and on the issue of Biafra, They have said NO to the agitation.
using Eastern region as a bait to force anyone into an unwanted agitation is certainly silly.
present day Delta and Edo were part of western nigeria with the yorubas,yet anytime Oduduwa voice goes out,they restrict it to 6 southwest states and the yoruba speaking areas of kogi and kwara.
The eastern region is gone, if the Ijaws,Ogonis,Efiks etc don't want Biafra, their decision should be respected and not abused.
I see them as Igbo neighbours and thats where it ends!
Igbos attaching these minorities to Biafra agitation is WRONGLY portraying Igbos as beggers! Thats why you see some of these SS minorities insulting Igbos on Social Media.
IPOB caused it.
Asari dokubo supporting Biafra means nothing, and There will NEVER be any refrendum on the Land of these SS minorities because they never asked for any.
IPOB should respect their decision.

2) PROTESTS: Since nnamdi kanu was arrested, ther have been many protests calling for his release, but has that released Nnamdi Kanu? NO.
Instead we have been seeing some Igbo young men send to their graves by the trigger happy Nigeria army.
my people, This is Africa where human rights are not respected, so why exposing yourselves to danger in the name of protest?
Since you people have been shot at in protest rally, is there any justice yet?
This is a country where gunfire were open on hundreds of shittes and nothing happens.
why must you present yourself to the enemy for you to be shot in the name of protest.
It is not the strongest animal that survives the jungle but the wiseast
Diplomacy is not in the Africa DNA!
3) IGBO NATION: why not agitate for an Igbo nation? European countries are succeding because they are mainly homogenous, why trying to leave Nigeria to another heterogenous country,
Had it been Ojukwu took the Igbos alone in 1967,he would have succeded.
if incase Nigeria breaks,I will love a homogenous Igbo country with Igbo language as lingua franca and also teaching our children Art,Science and Technology in Igbo language.
Thats the secret of western world dominance in Technology, A Homogenous nation.
I will round up by saying that BUHARI SHOULD RELEASE NNAMDI KANU.

No insults pls, contribute maturely.
thanks.…
You are free to share.
Amarachi.
Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by Nobody: 5:46pm On Mar 11, 2017
kingzizzy:


What territory? You think Nigeria is your territory? It is not. Nigeria is the territory of Lord Frederick Lugard. He created that territory for the purpose of holding people against their will. Nigeria has carried on that purpose to this day, the only difference is that Lugard has long gone back home. Those he forced into his illegal colonial creation called Nigeria will keep agitating until they get back their freedom and sovereignty that was officially stolen in 1914
Bros there was no Recognized sovereign entity called Biafra prior to Lugard's 1914 amalgamation. Biafra has no legitimacy in the eyes of the international community hence the silence over the agitation. I laugh when some people Open threads like this one about the modalities of a hypothetical referendum. There will never be any referendum in any Nigerian territory in the Foreseeable future

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by TheDEVlLHimseIf: 5:46pm On Mar 11, 2017
DocHMD:


Is this true or are you joking?
it's true that's why he's a sadist
Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by victorvezx(m): 5:48pm On Mar 11, 2017
kingzizzy:


What territory? You think Nigeria is your territory? It is not. Nigeria is the territory of Lord Frederick Lugard. He created that territory for the purpose of holding people against their will. Nigeria has carried on that purpose to this day, the only difference is that Lugard has long gone back home. Those he forced into his illegal colonial creation called Nigeria will keep agitating until they get back their freedom and sovereignty that was officially stolen in 1914
Hahahaha, u talking as if the igbos were once living in a civilised society or country before the British came, while in actual sense, there was non. , sorry, u have no territory. There was nothing like Biafra before the amalgamation in 1914, so u have no claim to any territory or boundary. Biafra never existed before Nigeria, so U have nothing to claim.

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by TheDEVlLHimseIf: 5:50pm On Mar 11, 2017
[s]
TimeManager:
What the hell do you mean by "the Yoruba speaking areas of kwara??.. Kwara is 100% yoruba land. E be like say to chop cane dey hungry you abi...
Kiss the truth!
[/s]
shatap kwara is arewa arewa is kwara

when you're bold enough
dethrone the emir and enthrone Oba
but till then you're just a cone head coward

kiss the truth
truth is talking
truth is mine

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by victorvezx(m): 5:51pm On Mar 11, 2017
Fx55:
My goodness me!

What exactly is your argument? Where did 'force' come into the agitation? Biafra is founded on the principles and core values of freedom and self-determination.

Are you more Biafran than the young Akwa-Ibom boy who was shot dead in the PortHarcourt rally and was buried a few weeks ago? Your stance and comments desecrates the memory of that young man, his family and whatever they believe in. It is THEIR right to choose where they want to belong. Allow THEM to make that choice by THEMSELVES and for THEMSELVES.
There are 6 million peoples in Akwa ibom state, because one stupid died for Biafra does not mean the others are interested.

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by TheDEVlLHimseIf: 5:52pm On Mar 11, 2017
[s]
kropotkin2:
Bros there was no Recognized sovereign entity called Biafra prior to Lugard's 1914 amalgamation. Biafra has no legitimacy in the eyes of the international community hence the silence over the agitation. I laugh when some people Open threads like this one about the modalities of a hypothetical referendum. There will never be any referendum in any Nigerian territory in the Foreseeable future
[/s]
another trash from an ewedu pained nigga

you should be more concerned about your brothers that was massacred in the heart of yeroba by arewa your Masters.

kiss the truth

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by kingzizzy: 6:03pm On Mar 11, 2017
kropotkin2:
Bros there was no Recognized sovereign entity called Biafra prior to Lugard's 1914 amalgamation. Biafra has no legitimacy in the eyes of the international community hence the silence over the agitation. I laugh when some people Open threads like this one about the modalities of a hypothetical referendum. There will never be any referendum in any Nigerian territory in the Foreseeable future

There was no sovereign entity called Nigeria before 1914. So why is is there Nigeria?

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by TimeManager(m): 6:04pm On Mar 11, 2017
TheDEVlLHimseIf:
[s]

shatap kwara is arewa arewa is kwara

when you're bold enough
dethrone the emir and enthrone Oba
but till then you're just a cone head coward

kiss the truth
truth is talking
truth is mine[/s]
Talk to my siggy & spread the message among your folks.
Kiss the truth!
Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by buckdudebuck: 6:25pm On Mar 11, 2017
kropotkin2:
Bros there was no Recognized sovereign entity called Biafra prior to Lugard's 1914 amalgamation. Biafra has no legitimacy in the eyes of the international community hence the silence over the agitation. I laugh when some people Open threads like this one about the modalities of a hypothetical referendum. There will never be any referendum in any Nigerian territory in the Foreseeable future
Was nigeria a recognized soverien entity before the arival of that mad man? Flawed Logic. Biafra will exist once again. You can take that to the bank.

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by SlayerSupreme: 6:28pm On Mar 11, 2017
Adaure4ever the Devil's advocate you're welcome back. When will you deactivate this particular account?

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by Lush100(m): 6:37pm On Mar 11, 2017
https://www.nairaland.com/3592578/let-igbos-pause-biafra-now/4#53152007

my own contribution . please read with understanding
Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by Ikechu10: 6:39pm On Mar 11, 2017
ZZ22:
Your the one derailing your thread or maybe you have been acting blind to the truths being said here... Don't you know that there are Igbos in Delta and Rivers as well as other states in SS? are you implying we should leave them behind or have you been feeding fat on Nigeria's concocted history relegating the Igbos to only 5 states? Haven't you heard that Biafra is not just about Igbos but about people who share in same Ideology. You know nothing about IPOB and what they are fighting for...

You guys need to stop paying miscreants like that Amarabae girl mind.

She's literally saying I'm not igbo because I'm from delta state. Likewise, those like me. Na her mama determines whose Igbo and whose not. F2king insulting b1tch.

This are type of igbos I can't stand. A pattern I've noticed is the "one Nigerian" igbos are one of the clueless set of igbos in this world. They form knowledge but lack it. The funny thing in her desperation to look "one Nigeria" she attest another false cause last i checked the oduduwa map that Yoruba just brought out included both efo and delta South, which last I checked are not Yoruba.

I can bet all i got she's one of those that form fake vs. real Igbo. don't waste your precious time on that thing.

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Re: IPOB- Right Ideology But Wrong Methodology! by Fx55(m): 6:48pm On Mar 11, 2017
victorvezx:
There are 6 million peoples in Akwa ibom state, because one stupid died for Biafra does not mean the others are interested.
Nobody is saying the others are interested. What we're saying is allow THEM to make THEIR choices by THEMSELVES and for THEMSELVES

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