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Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by three: 12:24pm On Mar 22, 2017
Definition of Land Reclamation

Land that was under the sea or was in a very poor condition, but has been improved so that it can be used for farming or building on - Cambridge Dictionary

'LAND RECLAMATION' is a misleading misnomer - it does not mean reclaiming LOST land but NEW Land (ie land previously under the sea). There is no proof that EAC existed as a land mass.

Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by three: 12:25pm On Mar 22, 2017
Was there land at the same spot in 1905?

RoyalHaskoning (Project Consultants) claims that Eko Atlantic City existed as a land form in 1905

Below are map overlays from 1907 and 1918 showing that there was no land at the current Eko Atlantic City Site

Also shown is a view of the Lagos Coast from the State House towards Tincan/Snake Island/Tarkwa Bay in 1923 with no evidence of Eko Atlantic at the current site.

https://www.royalhaskoningdhv.com/-/media/royalhaskoningdhvcorporate/files/global/services/eko_atlantic_-_the_great_wall_of_lagos.pdf
http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/onlineex/maps/africa/zoomify136510.html
http://www.bmarchives.org/items/show/100205710
Lagos 1923 Photo https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/beta/asset/bird-s-eye-view/5gH_3D4B0y9Kwg?hl=en-GB&ms=%7B"x"%3A0.5%2C"y"%3A0.5%2C"z"%3A9.578870651485552%2C"size"%3A%7B"width"%3A1.254442683223441%2C"height"%3A2.2713445341374685%7D%7D

Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by three: 12:25pm On Mar 22, 2017
Was an Environmental Impact Assesment carried out PRIOR to commencement of Dredging Activities?

NO! "The EIA was submitted 3 years after the commencement of dredging activites. This is a contravention to the rules of the EIA Act 2004. There is no evidence that FME approved the construction." Heinrich Boll Stiftung Nigeria https://ng.boell.org

EIA was done and submitted to FME after outcry from concerned individuals and NGOs

http://allafrica.com/stories/201509221344.html
https://ng.boell.org/sites/default/files/uploads/2012/12/eko_atlantic_project_-_fact_sheet.pdf

Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by afonjaheadhunt: 12:38pm On Mar 22, 2017
three:
Definition of Land Reclamation

Land that was under the sea or was in a very poor condition, but has been improved so that it can be used for farming or building on - Cambridge Dictionary

'LAND RECLAMATION' is a misleading misnomer - it does not mean reclaiming LOST land but NEW Land (ie land previously under the sea). There is no proof that EAC existed as a land mass.


Why are Nairalanders talking like this, so you don't want Lagos state government and omonile to chop again, after all even bubu said we have lost the value of lives in this country,

LASG be like who assessment epp. grin
Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by Nobody: 1:34pm On Mar 22, 2017
In other words, EAC is not "land reclamation" (that is, recovering of land) but "land creation" (that is, they are creating new land where there was no land). Well, I hope what they are doing is safe...in the long term.

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Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by three: 2:00pm On Mar 22, 2017
EmmaFantastic:
In other words ), EAC is not "land reclamation" (that is, recovering of land) but "land creation" (that is, they are creating new land where there was no land). Well, I hope what they are doing is safe...in the long term.

This ↑↑↑ sir, is the Koko of the matter!!!

lalasticlala kindly oblige and move to 'Firm & Confirmed DRY Ground'

meanwhile this BusinessDay (https://www.businessdayonline.com/eko-atlantics-great-wall-lagos-exceeds-6km-length/) article apears to be a response to the Nairaland thread (https://www.nairaland.com/3692183/5-mile-island-built-save-lagoss) and main Quartz Africa article (https://qz.com/923142/the-flaw-in-the-construction-of-eko-atlantic-island-in-lagos/)

The assertions though repeated that land existed in 1905 is STILL FALSE!

Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by NCP: 2:05pm On Mar 22, 2017
Am Just wakaing pass.


Well ma concern be say No more
F inland
U ganda
C anada
K enya
visas again.
If you get one use am wisely.

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Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by Ejanla07: 5:41pm On Mar 22, 2017
Risky. When empty land still dey lagos.
Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by stevecantrell: 5:55pm On Mar 22, 2017
Fallout from the Fashola era...what a surprise !
Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by Horus(m): 6:03pm On Mar 22, 2017

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Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by Horus(m): 2:23am On Mar 23, 2017

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Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by Nobody: 2:40am On Mar 23, 2017
Sponsored coordinated attack against Eko Atlantic project

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Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by edoyad(m): 6:39am On Mar 23, 2017
Nalikedis:
Sponsored coordinated attack against Eko Atlantic project

The question is why ? Those against it probably didn't believe it would ever be completed, like other projects in Nigeria.

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Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by 2kass(m): 7:15am On Mar 23, 2017
When Dubai did theirs, no one complained. It was done successfully.

Abeg make Una dey pray to get land for there instead of hating.

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Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by three: 9:36am On Mar 23, 2017
Nalikedis:
Sponsored coordinated attack against Eko Atlantic project

edoyad:


The question is why ? Those against it probably didn't believe it would ever be completed, like other projects in Nigeria.

If indeed this and other articles or views are 'sponsored coordinated attacks' then it implies that the promoters and consultants are an integral part of the sponsored attacks!

Why did they not carry out an extensive Environmental Impact assessment PRIOR to commencing dredging? Is it those who are 'against' the project that tied their hands?

Do you realise that there is no Traffic Impact Assessment for this project!

In your estimation is it Ahmadu Bello Way, Akin Adesola and Adetokunbo Ademola that will suffice for access and exit of the massive vehicular traffic from all those high rises you are seeing?

In fact, the whole Lagos State does not have a current Traffic Master Plan in consonance with the recently released Ikoyi/VI Master Plan!


2kass:
When Dubai did theirs, no one complained. It was done successfully.

Abeg make Una dey pray to get land for there instead of hating.


It is just like a man who does not have the capacity to maintain a 504 being delirious with ecstasy because he was 'gifted' a Rolls Royce!

Lagos currently cannot sustain Eko Atlantic City! This does not mean it cannot EVER it just means engaging with the proper 'tried and tested' process that cities committed to Good Urban Governance such as Dubai went through to achieve their dreams.

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Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by Ekakamba: 1:52pm On Mar 24, 2017
If all the above reasons are true, then I'm left with one word: Gbege!
Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by NovusHomo(m): 2:32pm On Mar 24, 2017
2kass:
When Dubai did theirs, no one complained. It was done successfully.

Abeg make Una dey pray to get land for there instead of hating.

Land will not be sold there. You will only be able to buy or rent apartments/flats and commercial space (stores).
And, by the way, EAC is a disaster waiting to happen.

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Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by ikorodureporta: 3:34pm On Mar 24, 2017
D day wey bar beach go vex for their head, i pity all thoz living aroud there...
Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by Nobody: 3:46pm On Mar 24, 2017
ikorodureporta:
D day wey bar beach go vex for their head, i pity all thoz living aroud there...

Bar beach mamiwota nau, abi? grin

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Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by Horus(m): 3:59pm On Mar 24, 2017
three:


Lagos currently cannot sustain Eko Atlantic City!

Eko Atlantic City is a private project, the city of Lagos and Lagos State are not responsible.

Please forward your complaint to the private investors of the project not the city of Lagos

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Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by Horus(m): 4:14pm On Mar 24, 2017
Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by ibroh22(m): 4:41pm On Mar 24, 2017
ok o,make I spread mat here before it's push to permanent site
Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by chiboyo(m): 5:00pm On Mar 24, 2017
three:
Was an Environmental Impact Assesment carried out PRIOR to commencement of Dredging Activities?

NO! "The EIA was submitted 3 years after the commencement of dredging activites. This is a contravention to the rules of the EIA Act 2004. There is no evidence that FME approved the construction." Heinrich Boll Stiftung Nigeria https://ng.boell.org

EIA was done and submitted to FME after outcry from concerned individuals and NGOs

http://allafrica.com/stories/201509221344.html
https://ng.boell.org/sites/default/files/uploads/2012/12/eko_atlantic_project_-_fact_sheet.pdf







this matter is getting serious

How can the EIA for such a huge govt project be submitted after 3yrs of project inception??

Govt themselves are the highest rule breakers. And same would keep hounding you for any small issue

May God help us
Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by castrokiller(m): 8:22pm On Mar 24, 2017
seun come o... FP please
Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by DrinkWater10: 1:43am On Mar 25, 2017
three:


This ↑↑↑ sir, is the Koko of the matter!!!

lalasticlala kindly oblige and move to 'Firm & Confirmed DRY Ground'

meanwhile this BusinessDay (https://www.businessdayonline.com/eko-atlantics-great-wall-lagos-exceeds-6km-length/) article apears to be a response to the Nairaland thread (https://www.nairaland.com/3692183/5-mile-island-built-save-lagoss) and main Quartz Africa article (https://qz.com/923142/the-flaw-in-the-construction-of-eko-atlantic-island-in-lagos/)

The assertions though repeated that land existed in 1905 is STILL FALSE!
OP please kindly give us a summary of your post, in layman terms.
what effect will the rise in sea level due to global warming have on this project?

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Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by donratcock: 12:26pm On Mar 25, 2017
2kass:
When Dubai did theirs, no one complained. It was done successfully.

Abeg make Una dey pray to get land for there instead of hating.
Getting land is not a problem for ndigbo
Even if you sell the land for one billion we can afford it
The only problem we will have is when your people starts claiming the land we paid for
Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by daphil: 10:05pm On Mar 25, 2017
Horus:
[img]http://qzprod.files./2017/03/gif-file-labels-scale-large.gif?w=902[/img]

@ Horus, could you please send me these pix? I am carrying out a study on this project and your pix will be very helpful. I sent you a message and I'm still waiting for your response. Thank you!
Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by Ajibel(m): 10:47pm On Mar 25, 2017
It's 2017, the first building in EAC has been completed. More buildings are springing up and that's when someone now decides to go on a spree to publish nonsense on the project that has attracted so much interests from the world.

Keep hating okay while developmental works on EAC continues.

We all would be on NL the day the city would be completed.

*long hissssssss*

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Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by Ajibel(m): 10:49pm On Mar 25, 2017
On skyscrapercity website, there is a thread and section devoted to pictures on the world going on at EAC.

Go there and see the amazing work being done there.

Nigerians sabi pull down there own sha. Smh

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Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by three: 7:43am On Mar 29, 2017
DrinkWater10:

OP please kindly give us a summary of your post, in layman terms.
what effect will the rise in sea level due to global warming have on this project?

Fundamentally the major test that the designers of the 'Great Wall' undertook was the subjecting of waves to a scale model of the Lagos Coastline at Bar Beach. See video below

The Great Wall is like a fence built in water that shields the coast against the strength of waves which erode the coastline (remember the perennial Bar Beach flooding wahala?).

The Fence will 'ring in' a body of water. It is this body of water that is being sand filled to create Eko Atlantic City.

The Fence model tested by the dutch designers was a scale model so scientifically the question is? Can you scale water? Can you scale sand?

If you cannot scale water the way you can scale say a 1 metre diameter ball to a 1cm diameter ball (reducing scale) then how can you effectively predict the effect of water on the sand?

With sea water rising the basic theory of the Great Wall will be subjected to LIVE tests which go over and beyond laboratory tests.

With regard to EIA, neighbouring beaches are experiencing higher levels of flooding and erosion after the commencement of dredging for Eko Atlantic.

With regard to transport, Lagos vehicular traffic around Victoria Islanf and Ikoyi will be further aggravated as Eko Atlantic becomes more populated.


See the documents and link below


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBK7_nEn8Ac

https://www.royalhaskoningdhv.com/-/.../eko_atlantic_-_the_great_wall_of_lagos.pdf
Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by signz: 10:58am On Jul 08, 2017
I just saw a link to this thread on twitter.

Maybe the Op was sponsored or maybe not but isn't it strange that EIA for this project was submitted 3 years after dredging began.

Lagos island is flooded right now and what will happen after EAC is completed is that the properties there maybe safe but how about VI, Ikoyi, Lekki, etc. Let's not forget about climate change that's bringing about rising sea levels. The whole Lagos island maybe under Atlantic sea in a few years time if something drastic isn't done.

We should stop burying our head In the sand because of bigotry and 30 pieces of silver.

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Re: Why EKO ATLANTIC CITY May Just Be The BIGGEST 'Plot Of Water' In Africa! by kingdenny(m): 11:22am On Jul 08, 2017
No great Wall can withstand the fury of mother nature when she is provoked.
With climate change and rising sea level and ineptitude of Nigeria as a third world country, I fear for the future of that project.

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