₦airaland Forum

Jokul:
Lol 1 ASM and the whole aircraft carrier turns to nothing but floating basket of flames!!!

MONITZ:
@ blue agent, u mean the same Russia that annexed Crimea ,invaded Georgia as well and America couldn't do shit.If it were to be a weak country the way u portray Russia, the U. S. a would ve long invaded her... Bt they know better not to try a thing like that because they know it would end in a fiasco.

How did Vietnam and the Korean War of the 1950s end up for America?
I know the U. S. a re good bt they re way overrated beyond their capacity....

Maybe u re still thinking Russia is Iraq, Libya or Serbia.. If America were to even attack China ,they would definitely sweat it out before managing to secure a victory, then how much more Russia? Quit watching Hollywood movies, they re not good bcoz they make u deluded.....

MONITZ:
@ blue agent, u mean the same Russia that annexed Crimea ,invaded Georgia as well and America couldn't do shit.If it were to be a weak country the way u portray Russia, the U. S. a would ve long invaded her... Bt they know better not to try a thing like that because they know it would end in a fiasco.

How did Vietnam and the Korean War of the 1950s end up for America?
I know the U. S. a re good bt they re way overrated beyond their capacity....

Maybe u re still thinking Russia is Iraq, Libya or Serbia.. If America were to even attack China ,they would definitely sweat it out before managing to secure a victory, then how much more Russia? Quit watching Hollywood movies, they re not good bcoz they make u deluded.....

blueAgent:
You are still missing the main point.

Ishilove:
_Shit's gonna get real preeeeety soon...

MONITZ:
How and would u mind making the point clear enough? I am waiting and all ears...

blueAgent:
The point is that Syria crises as well as Ukraine where designed and used as a spring board to launch WW3.

Forget all you see on TV. even the Coldwar between US and Russia was partly staged. google about Albert Pike. morals and dogma

and click this link.

www.threeworldwars.com/intro.htm

MONITZ:
Kk, I will go thru ur links at a more convenient time. Anyway thanks for the links once again..

Missy89:
Lol

Zoharariel aka obatalakronos is delusional and can't be helped.

Even appleyard the inventor of margrav tech spends most of his time in the job section now trying to earn some American dollars ( the same currency he bashed for years) and his brother cowardminted is no longer posting daily Russian propaganda. The Kremlin finally cut his funding and sent him to Siberia.

Executive Order -- Blocking the Property and Suspending Entry into the United States of Certain Persons with Respect to Grave Human Rights Abuses by the Governments of Iran and Syria via Information Technology

EXECUTIVE ORDER
- - - - - - -
BLOCKING THE PROPERTY AND SUSPENDING ENTRY INTO THE
UNITED STATES OF CERTAIN PERSONS WITH RESPECT TO GRAVE
HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES BY THE GOVERNMENTS OF IRAN AND SYRIA
VIA INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.), section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, as amended (8 U.S.C. 1182(f)), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, hereby determine that the commission of serious human rights abuses against the people of Iran and Syria by their governments, facilitated by computer and network disruption, monitoring, and tracking by those governments, and abetted by entities in Iran and Syria that are complicit in their governments’ malign use of technology for those purposes, threaten the national security and foreign policy of the United States.

The Governments of Iran and Syria are endeavoring to rapidly upgrade their technological ability to conduct such activities. Cognizant of the vital importance of providing technology that enables the Iranian and Syrian people to freely communicate with each other and the outside world, as well as the preservation, to the extent possible, of global telecommunications supply chains for essential products and services to enable the free flow of information, the measures in this order are designed primarily to address the need to prevent entities located in whole or in part in Iran and Syria from facilitating or committing serious human rights abuses.

Appleyard:
...The fact that I sometimes lambast Israel for murdering innocent Palestinians in cold blood doesn't stop me either from reading my Bible as a Christian.... Same as being paid for the job I do if the company decides to make payment in USD.. So, i will take that as a compliment; and stop being a kid.

Now, on Magrev technology, answer me:

Did Obama sign an executive order banning something from Iran and Syria?

Wasn't it expressly stated in the said executive order that the ban was against Iranian electronic/information technology that constitute a threat to American national security?

Now, tell me dear Missy Denial; since when did Iranian television stations, radios, telephone poles, Bluetooth devices, and electric bulbs constitute a threat to the national security of a whole United Snakes of America; in so much that it warranted an executive order ban?


Or do you want me to re-post the content of that executive order here again, so everyone can see for themselves? Or is it that you can't decipher the hidden meaning in between thesis? I know you ca; just that you're being blinded by sentiments.........lol

Here we go again, baby....Just some line for ya



Wow! Lets take this to the logical theatre..

1. The US says in the above that the reason she's sanctioning Iran & Syria was because the said governments were committing HUMAN RIGHT ABUSES (even though Iran & Syria has better human right records far more than any other Arab state in the Mideast; including America's partner-in-crime, Satan Arabia )

2. That the said human right abuses was FACILITATED by COMPUTER and NETWORK DISRUPTION, MONITORING and TRACKING -- My fellow nairalanders, please google the whole internet whether you will come across stories or evidence of how the various governments of Iran & Syria were abusing the fundamental rights of their people by using COMPUTER and NETWORK DISRUPTION, MONITORING and TRACKING.. If anyone can bring forth such evidence to help Missy89, I will give him/her 2,000 Naira. Check my signature...

3. That the said information technology THREATENS the NATIONAL SECURITY and FOREIGN POLICY of the U.S. -- Is any body listening?
What alien telephone poles, radio stations, fax machines, typewriters or computers possessed by Iran that threatens THE ENTIRE 50 STATES of America, in so much that she might be forced to change course on her diabolic Foreign Policy trips to the Mideast? Can anybody help me out?

And it gets even more interesting...




My people, if I may ask: what sort of television. phones, radio, computer or communication satellite that Iran has that is far above American fake news networks--CNN and NYT? What sort of Iranian communication technology getting rapid improvement that is causing America such panic?

Oh yeah! It's making lot of sense now ..... On December 2011, Iran actually FACILITATED its credibility by TRACKING, MONITORING and DISRUPTING the control mechanism of the most developed American Stealth drone--commandeered and captured it alive with the aid of Magrev technology... ...and information has it that the Iranians were already in advance stage of sharing some secret of the technology to its ally, Syria.

It was the same technology that a 30 years old French submarine employed in sinking a U.S Fleet Carrier and some of its accompany vessels in a NATO war exercise held on February 4, 2015.
The bad-asss French military even published it for some days on their military website but quickly took it down to save the Americans the embarrassment.


I haven't even mentioned what the Russian Akula klass Sub did to the Theodore Roosevelt Carrier that sent her scampering away like a Bokoharam victim to Hampshire... And when the little city people came out to behold such gigantic floating bathroom just by the beach, they wondered how come? And the only explanations the Ediots Yankees could give was that, the Carrier had to anchor by the beach side because the Hampshire port wasn't big enough to host it. But those offsprings of mendacity failed to realised that people with common sense will comprehend and asked: "why would the Carrier come to Hampshire at the first place when they knew it can never dock? what happened to the normal port of call?

This was similar US Fleet Carrier that got cornered and the hype of "indestructible" was torn to shred when in 2007, during a US live-fire Naval exercise, a Chinese Song Class Submarine (a sister version of the Russian Kilo Class) surfaced right behind the American Fleet Carrier--going past all the other vessels unnoticed--and when the Americans saw it, they were visibly angry and disappointed..... So much for the mendacious myth that American battle Carrier ships can't be reached...

I just they laugh...


And now, the same Carrier is chest-fronting to the Korea peninsula...the land of a ruler that serve no God nor Satan...
..And the last time they got involved for real, we all know what happened, especially when after the Red Dragon entered the Bruce Lee-- -body bags well over 50 thousands were sacked back home to Washington.. (a minute of silence for the dead )

That was then when technology was still archaic...What about now....? I pity the kids here who think they are watching Rambo....

This time, i Sincerely hope that the situation shouldn't get worse than the picture below.....Cause anything "North" have no time for play..


Let me go and make more Dollars..

Adieu....

Appleyard:
...The fact that I sometimes lambast Israel for murdering innocent Palestinians in cold blood doesn't stop me either from reading my Bible as a Christian.... Same as being paid for the job I do if the company decides to make payment in USD.. So, i will take that as a compliment; and stop being a kid.

Now, on Magrev technology, answer me:

Did Obama sign an executive order banning something from Iran and Syria?

Wasn't it expressly stated in the said executive order that the ban was against Iranian electronic/information technology that constitute a threat to American national security?

Now, tell me dear Missy Denial; since when did Iranian television stations, radios, telephone poles, Bluetooth devices, and electric bulbs constitute a threat to the national security of a whole United Snakes of America; in so much that it warranted an executive order ban?


Or do you want me to re-post the content of that executive order here again, so everyone can see for themselves? Or is it that you can't decipher the hidden meaning in between thesis? I know you ca; just that you're being blinded by sentiments.........lol

Here we go again, baby....Just some line for ya



Wow! Lets take this to the logical theatre..

1. The US says in the above that the reason she's sanctioning Iran & Syria was because the said governments were committing HUMAN RIGHT ABUSES (even though Iran & Syria has better human right records far more than any other Arab state in the Mideast; including America's partner-in-crime, Satan Arabia )

2. That the said human right abuses was FACILITATED by COMPUTER and NETWORK DISRUPTION, MONITORING and TRACKING -- My fellow nairalanders, please google the whole internet whether you will come across stories or evidence of how the various governments of Iran & Syria were abusing the fundamental rights of their people by using COMPUTER and NETWORK DISRUPTION, MONITORING and TRACKING.. If anyone can bring forth such evidence to help Missy89, I will give him/her 2,000 Naira. Check my signature...

3. That the said information technology THREATENS the NATIONAL SECURITY and FOREIGN POLICY of the U.S. -- Is any body listening?
What alien telephone poles, radio stations, fax machines, typewriters or computers possessed by Iran that threatens THE ENTIRE 50 STATES of America, in so much that she might be forced to change course on her diabolic Foreign Policy trips to the Mideast? Can anybody help me out?

And it gets even more interesting...




My people, if I may ask: what sort of television. phones, radio, computer or communication satellite that Iran has that is far above American fake news networks--CNN and NYT? What sort of Iranian communication technology getting rapid improvement that is causing America such panic?

Oh yeah! It's making lot of sense now ..... On December 2011, Iran actually FACILITATED its credibility by TRACKING, MONITORING and DISRUPTING the control mechanism of the most developed American Stealth drone--commandeered and captured it alive with the aid of Magrev technology... ...and information has it that the Iranians were already in advance stage of sharing some secret of the technology to its ally, Syria.

It was the same technology that a 30 years old French submarine employed in sinking a U.S Fleet Carrier and some of its accompany vessels in a NATO war exercise held on February 4, 2015.
The bad-asss French military even published it for some days on their military website but quickly took it down to save the Americans the embarrassment.


I haven't even mentioned what the Russian Akula klass Sub did to the Theodore Roosevelt Carrier that sent her scampering away like a Bokoharam victim to Hampshire... And when the little city people came out to behold such gigantic floating bathroom just by the beach, they wondered how come? And the only explanations the Ediots Yankees could give was that, the Carrier had to anchor by the beach side because the Hampshire port wasn't big enough to host it. But those offsprings of mendacity failed to realised that people with common sense will comprehend and asked: "why would the Carrier come to Hampshire at the first place when they knew it can never dock? what happened to the normal port of call?

This was similar US Fleet Carrier that got cornered and the hype of "indestructible" was torn to shred when in 2007, during a US live-fire Naval exercise, a Chinese Song Class Submarine (a sister version of the Russian Kilo Class) surfaced right behind the American Fleet Carrier--going past all the other vessels unnoticed--and when the Americans saw it, they were visibly angry and disappointed..... So much for the mendacious myth that American battle Carrier ships can't be reached...

I just they laugh...


And now, the same Carrier is chest-fronting to the Korea peninsula...the land of a ruler that serve no God nor Satan...
..And the last time they got involved for real, we all know what happened, especially when after the Red Dragon entered the Bruce Lee-- -body bags well over 50 thousands were sacked back home to Washington.. (a minute of silence for the dead )

That was then when technology was still archaic...What about now....? I pity the kids here who think they are watching Rambo....

This time, i Sincerely hope that the situation shouldn't get worse than the picture below.....Cause anything "North" have no time for play..


Let me go and make more Dollars..

Adieu....

EricBloodAxe:
Lol...duhh ure lethal

Zoharariel:
SirWere,

With due respect, pls desist from quoting that terrorist. He's no more than a 23YO simpleton who is only obsessed with the illusion of Amerikan dream & military supremacy.

Even his masters like Valeriansteel & Bookface are keeping mum because they know the definition & meaning of Magrav Technology.

I hereby use this medium to summon the following Generals:

Appleyard, Shym3xx, GTkester, Poseidon000 aka Cyprus000, Scully95, Nairaminted, Bonechamberlain, Hungryboy, Seagulsntrawler, Janujaz, Naijatalktown, Phrenelogy, Overhypedsteve, Underground, Seunny4lif, ShinnBet, Fineguy11, Capip120, Lumiere91, Barram, Romme2u, Stalwert, Panafrican and other silent loyal supporters.

Zoharariel:
SirWere,

With due respect, pls desist from quoting that terrorist. He's no more than a 23YO simpleton who is only obsessed with the illusion of Amerikan dream & military supremacy.

Even his masters like Valeriansteel & Bookface are keeping mum because they know the definition & meaning of Magrav Technology.

I hereby use this medium to summon the following Generals:

Appleyard, Shym3xx, GTkester, Poseidon000 aka Cyprus000, Scully95, Nairaminted, Bonechamberlain, Hungryboy, Seagulsntrawler, Janujaz, Naijatalktown, Phrenelogy, Overhypedsteve, Underground, Seunny4lif, ShinnBet, Fineguy11, Capip120, Lumiere91, Barram, Romme2u, Stalwert, Panafrican and other silent loyal supporters.

Jokul:
Lol 1 ASM and the whole aircraft carrier turns to nothing but floating basket of flames!!!

scully95:
I just shake head to some dummies that knows nothing about real combatant military state. I read few comments saying, oh big'',''Strong''. Big and foolish is what i call all the above pics and it's just mere flaunting of force which is completely useless and for once DPRK has never feared not even for 1 second.(That is the real soul that wins war not mere show off and bunch of crying soldiers training another dumb and stupid) If for anything they have recently intensified test firing nuclear capable ballistic missile . It wont be long before they finally get ICBM that will turn the land of the oppressor to a waste ash land.

Acording to Saker, a more reasonable military analyst, he said and i agree squarly with him "
While it is probably not impossible for the US to prevail, in purely military terms, against the DPRK in a war, the potential risks are nothing short of immense. And I don’t mean the risk posed by the North Korean nukes which, apparently, is also quite real.The risk of starting a war against a country which has Seoul within conventional artillery range, an active duty army of well over one million people and 180’000 special forces operators. Let us assume for a second that the DPRK has no air force and no navy and an army composed of only 1M+ soldiers, 21k+ artillery pieces and 180k special forces. How do you propose to deal with that threat? If you have an easy, obvious solution, you have watched too many Hollywood movies. You probably also don’t understand the terrain.

But yes, the DPRK also has major wseaknesses and I cannot exclude that the North Korean armed forces would rapidly collapse under a sustained attack by the US and the ROK. I did not say that I believe that this would happen, only that I don’t exclude it. Should that happen, the US might well prevail relatively rapidly, at least in purely military terms. However, please keep in mind that any military operation has to serve a political goal and, in that sense, I cannot imagine any scenario under which the USA would walk away from a war against the DPRK with anything remotely resembling a real “victory”. There is a paraphrase of something Ho Chi Minh allegedly told to the French in the 1940s which I really like. It goes like this:” we kill some of you, you kill a lot of us, and then we win”. That is how a war with the DPRK would probably play out. I call this the “American curse”: Americans are very good at killing people, but they are not good at winning wars. Still, in the case of the DPRK there is at least a possibility of a military victory, even if at a potentially huge cost. With Iran, Russia or China there is no such possibility at all: a war with any of them would be a guaranteed disaster. So why is it that even though out of the 4 possible wars, one is a potential disaster and the 3 others are a guaranteed disaster, why is it that these are discussed as if they were potential options?!

The reason for that can be found in the unique mix of crass ignorance and political cowardice of the entire US political class. First, a lot (most?) of US politicians believe in their own silly propaganda about the US armed forces being “the best” in “the world” (no evidence needed!). But even those who are smart enough to realize that this is a load of baloney which nobody outside the USA still takes seriously, they know that saying that publicly is political suicide. So they pretend, go along, and keep on repetitively spewing the patriotic mantra about “rah, rah, USA, USA, ‘Merica number one, we are the best” etc. Some figure that since the USA spends more on aggression that the rest of the planet combined, that must mean that the US armed forces must be “better” (whatever that means). To the birthplace of “bigger is better” the answer is self-evident. It is also completely wrong

Eventually, something crazy inevitably happens. Like in Syria were the State Department had one policy, the Pentagon another and the CIA yet another one. The resulting cognitive dissonance is removed by engaging in classical doublethink: “yes, we screwed up over and over, but we are still the best”. Ironically, that kind of mindset is at the core of the American inability to learn from past mistakes. If the choice is between an honest evaluation of past operations and political expediency, the latter always prevails (at least amongst civilians, US servicemen are often far more capable of self-critical evaluation, especially in ranks up to Colonel and below, the problem here is that civilians and generals rarely listen to them).

The result is total chaos: the US foreign policy is wholly dependent on the US ability to threaten the use of military force, but the harsh reality is that every country out there which dared to defy Uncle Sam did that only after coming to the conclusion that the US did not have the means to crush it militarily. In other words, only the weak, which are already de-facto US colonies (See definition of the set in my signature) , fear the USA. Or, put differently, the only countries who dare to defy Uncle Sam are the strong ones (that was all quite predictable, but US politicians don’t know about Hegel or dialectics). And just to make it worse, there is no real US foreign policy. What there is is only the sum vector of the different foreign policies desired by various more or less covert “deep state” actors, agencies and individuals. That resulting “sum vector” is inevitably short-term, focuses on a quickfix approach, and unable to take into account any complexity.

As for the US “diplomacy” it simply doesn’t exist. You don’t need diplomats to deliver demands, bribes, ultimatums and threats. You don’t need educated people. Nor do you need people with any understanding of the “other”. All you need is one arrogant self-enamored bully and one interpreter (since US diplomats don’t speak the local languages either. And why would they?). We saw the most compelling evidence of the total rigor mortis of the US diplomatic corps when 51 US “diplomats” demanded that Obama bomb Syria. The rest of the world could just observe in amazement, sadness, bewilderment and total disgust.

The bottom line is this: there is no “US diplomacy”. The USA have simply let that entire field atrophy to the point were it ceased to exist. When so many baffled observers try to understand what the US policy in the Ukraine or Syria is, they are making a mistaken assumption – that there is a US foreign policy to being with. I would argue that the US diplomacy slowly and quietly passed away, sometime after James Baker (the last real US diplomat, and a brilliant one at that).

cstr151:
The chinese military is developed ofcourse, but sorry, are still years and years, behind the US military machine.
China is close to Korea? So what? The US already has established Military bases in South korea, japan and the Pacific.
If a war breaks out, Movement of men and American war equipments there would be lightening quick ,and there is already significant US military Deterrence in that region which includes a Nuclear first strike.
We have all our geo-political biases, but let us try and make intelligent conclusion next time regardless of how bitter the truth may be.

SirWere:
Even though it's debatable about the US supposed technological prowess over china, Let us assume for the sake of argument you are right.
So what
War is not won by superior technology or state of the art wapons, don't let all those war movies deceive you.

The Vietnam war proved that at least.

The US cannot fire Nuclear missiles on the coast of N.Korea. They dare not.

To do so will be tantamount to going against the spirit of their Nuclear detterent policies and they lose the moral authority to stop Russia from selling nukes to any country they so wish (Saudi Arabia, Iran).

Military bases is not the same as Geographical proximity, I thought that was clear enough. China is LITERALLY N.Korea next door's neighbour and the main US contingent is Thousands of miles away.

It's like the hausas fighting a war in Anambra and having their base in Borno while Yorubaland has pledged alleigance to Ibos.

cstr151:
[b]The US cannot fire Nuclear missiles at North korea? Says who?
North korea has been warned repeatedly in very clear terms. If they attempt any nuclear conflagration, the response would be nuclear. The US have flown Nuclear capable Bomber many times over South korea as a show of force. If you believe they can't or won't use it if events calls for it, then you are deluded.
And no, Russia can not just sell Nukes to any country. It is in their best interests as well as america to ensure a non-proliferation of Nukes.
And sorry, i still don't get how chinese geographical proximity to korea makes them have an advantage so large that it would massively impart the war.
Do they have an advantage? Yes. But the advantage is not really that big atleast when america is concerned. We are talking about a country with a significant buildup of military presence in that region of both nuclear , Missile defences and otherwise for years. That is a massive presence. It is not like the terrain is unfamiliar to US forces.
And besides, We are talking about a war involving ICBMs, supersonic jets, and Aircraft carriers here not igbo- fulani yeye tribal war.
The time it will take a US carrier group currently in the pacific to complement very significant American military build-up on the ground in south korea will not take more than 3 hours.
The time it will take squadrons of F-22 raptors and B-2 bombers to leave Texas and get to Korea is 4-5 hours.
Besides, China and Korea are currently not in good terms. Atleast, not as good enough to compel china risking it all for them.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/24/world/asia/china-north-korea-relations-kim-jong-un.html?_r=0
http://shanghaiist.com/2017/02/20/north_korea_coal_sanctions.php
Infact, i believe the best China would do for her interests is to cut a deal with america for a non-nuclear Conflict with North-korea if war becomes inevitable .
China is not hanging her neck out for North korea . That is delusion to believe otherwise.

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patrickmuf:
Stop blabbing bro, I don't see or hear any news of a military invasion of the North, tell your so called world police to drop just a pn on North Korean soil and watch what will happen afterwards. Empty chest beating is not for real men, get on the dance floor.