To Those That Think Pastors Shouldn't Seek Justice In Court By Enwongo Cleopas - Christianity Etc (2)

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Re: To Those That Think Pastors Shouldn't Seek Justice In Court By Enwongo Cleopas by madegreatbygrace(m): 11:02pm On Apr 05, 2017

Judasjudas:
Well nice one ..but I'll love to add .. this men of God are Christ like ..or so de claim .. let's take for instance .. will Christ take someone to court to seel justice ? ..In doing such are u winning the soul or loosing it .?
Cus the soul aim is to win souls for Christ .. so as a Man of God, how have u won that soul you are taking to court ..
.. Yes the person offended u .. now imagine that fellow finally ends in jail .. and tomorrow ..u and your crew goes to the prison cell to preach to inmates . ..
what will be your message ?

and who told you that the offender can not surrender their life to Christ in jail.God can use any means to gain a soul to His kingdom.

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Re: To Those That Think Pastors Shouldn't Seek Justice In Court By Enwongo Cleopas by Judasjudas(m): 4:05am On Apr 06, 2017

madegreatbygrace:
and who told you that the offender can not surrender their life to Christ in jail.God can use any means to gain a soul to His kingdom.

..

you didn't get the point..
how do u expect me to surrender my life when you're the one who put me in here ..

am saying mistakenly u go for evangelism ..and u meet the person there ..

Re: To Those That Think Pastors Shouldn't Seek Justice In Court By Enwongo Cleopas by ojuu4u(m): 7:15am On Apr 06, 2017

An2elect2:
1Corinthians 6:1

When one of you has a dispute with another believer, how dare you file a lawsuit and ask a secular court to decide the matter instead of taking it to other believers!

stop misleading public, read ur bible bf u quote to d public, I advice u to ur bible and reread it again

Re: To Those That Think Pastors Shouldn't Seek Justice In Court By Enwongo Cleopas by PROPHETmichael: 7:27am On Apr 06, 2017

An2elect2:
1Corinthians 6:1

When one of you has a dispute with another [b]believer, how dare you file a lawsuit and ask a secular court to decide the matter instead of taking it to other believers! [/b]

The keyword there is 'believer' and the last time i checked, Kemi wasn't a believer.

Re: To Those That Think Pastors Shouldn't Seek Justice In Court By Enwongo Cleopas by An2elect2(f): 10:34am On Apr 06, 2017

PROPHETmichael:
The keyword there is 'believer' and the last time i checked, Kemi wasn't a believer.

And a "pastor" seeking for justice in court is a believer?

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Re: To Those That Think Pastors Shouldn't Seek Justice In Court By Enwongo Cleopas by An2elect2(f): 10:35am On Apr 06, 2017

ojuu4u:
stop misleading public, read ur bible bf u quote to d public, I advice u to ur bible and reread it again

What did I contradict in the Bible? Why take offence?

Re: To Those That Think Pastors Shouldn't Seek Justice In Court By Enwongo Cleopas by akintom(m): 11:14am On Apr 06, 2017*

worlings:
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Back to forgiveness, I think it is pure mischief when we insinuate that Christianity is simply closing eyes to what is wrong because that.

If there's any mischief, dishonesty and crass intellectual emptiness, they are all inherent in Christian doctrines.

Jesus himself, in his beatitudes, recorded in Mathew chapter 5, commanded the the Christians to do the absurdities.

St. Matthew 5:11 Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account.
St. Matthew 5:21 You have heard that it was said to those of old, You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.
St. Matthew 5:22 But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, You fool! will be liable to the hell of fire.
St. Matthew 5:25 Come to terms quickly with your accuser while you are going with him to court, lest your accuser hand you over to the judge, and the judge to the guard, and you be put in prison.
St. Matthew 5:26 Truly, I say to you, you will never get out until you have paid the last penny.
St. Matthew 5:38 You have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
St. Matthew 5:39 But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.
St. Matthew 5:40 And if anyone would sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well.
St. Matthew 5:41 And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles.
St. Matthew 5:43 You have heard that it was said, You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.
St. Matthew 5:44 But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

The only mischief, is the fact that the OP never quoted a single verse, from this verses above. Even when they addressed the issue of discussion, in most fundamental ways.

worlings:
you can forgive a person who stole from you while also asking for a recompense and repayment of those stolen funds. ‎
You can forgive your boss for mistreating you while also asking for a reinstatement or a legal compensation for the many hours you invested in the company. A workman shall receive his compensation.

As written by Barr. Enwongo Cleopas

The above is mere opinions of the OP. Biblically, forgiveness is letting go of the act of offence, with all its effects. You haven't forgiven, when you turn around to demand compensation.

At such point like this, when Christian doctrines betrays impracticability and absurdities, most Christians results to obfuscation and semantics.

This is an act of cowardice.

Re: To Those That Think Pastors Shouldn't Seek Justice In Court By Enwongo Cleopas by ojuu4u(m): 11:44am On Apr 06, 2017

An2elect2:
What did I contradict in the Bible? Why take offence?

go and re read 1cor 1:6 you quoted

Re: To Those That Think Pastors Shouldn't Seek Justice In Court By Enwongo Cleopas by ifenes(m): 7:57pm On Apr 06, 2017

Judasjudas:
Well nice one ..but I'll love to add .. this men of God are Christ like ..or so de claim .. let's take for instance .. will Christ take someone to court to seel justice ? ..In doing such are u winning the soul or loosing it .?
Cus the soul aim is to win souls for Christ .. so as a Man of God, how have u won that soul you are taking to court ..
.. Yes the person offended u .. now imagine that fellow finally ends in jail .. and tomorrow ..u and your crew goes to the prison cell to preach to inmates . ..
what will be your message ?

Beautiful reply

Re: To Those That Think Pastors Shouldn't Seek Justice In Court By Enwongo Cleopas by PROPHETmichael: 3:46am On Apr 07, 2017

ifenes:
Beautiful reply

Nope, that wasn't a beautiful reply because there are millions of hardened criminals that despite the preaching they received/heard outside prison about Christ, refused to repent but when the long arms of the law caught up with them and they ended up in prison.... today they are now shouting Jesus is Lord.

Re: To Those That Think Pastors Shouldn't Seek Justice In Court By Enwongo Cleopas by ifenes(m): 9:27am On Apr 07, 2017

PROPHETmichael:
Nope, that wasn't a beautiful reply because there are millions of hardened criminals that despite the preaching they received/heard outside prison about Christ, refused to repent but when the long arms of the law caught up with them and they ended up in prison.... today they are now shouting Jesus is Lord.

To you it wasn't. I'm no Christian but I know unconditional Love is the answer. It seems the pastor has decided to cast the stone, he has failed the test and now seeks judgement. He has no heart of forgiveness just like other pastors who are only talking but cannot put it in action.

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Re: To Those That Think Pastors Shouldn't Seek Justice In Court By Enwongo Cleopas by PROPHETmichael: 10:05am On Apr 07, 2017

ifenes:
To you it wasn't. I'm no Christian but I know unconditional Love is the answer. It seems the pastor has decided to cast the stone, he has failed the test and now seeks judgement. He has no heart of forgiveness just like other pastors who are only talking but cannot put it in action.

Sorry my brother, the pastor has done nothing wrong, as a matter of fact, he's helping the lady amend her ways i.e. if she will be willing. Here's what the bible say about letting the law have its way.

"Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine, in accordance with the gospel of the glory of the blessed God with which I have been entrusted." 1 Timothy 1:8-11 Don't you think sister Kemi fell into one of the listed categories of those to be handed over to the law enforcement agency?

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