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nemesis2u:
darn got hauled up.....still


i may not be here 2 years from now,

but i would like u to remember my opinion that many in Africa, Asia will be fighting street to street with jihadists/fundamentalists if assad goes down.

i will no longer comment on this issue......



remember big countries play big games

I think all these self proclaimed world leaders really deserve mass burial.

tdayof:
I think all these self proclaimed world leaders really deserve mass burial.

u dont understand

political leaders r just the public face , they r replaceable every 5 years....... they r never independent, the system does not allow them to be , they have to play by the rule books scripted by others, u cannot go against the system of which ur a part of, u have to fall in line or at the minimum end up with a give and take relation

the real players r ............ i dont know

am officially ashamed of the so-called Russians electronic Warfare capacity and it's s400,s300 SAM in Syria.

giles14:
am officially ashamed of the so-called Russians electronic Warfare capacity and it's s400,s300 SAM in Syria.

many great battles have been won off the field without firing a single round and here ur lamenting about EW , sams etc

putin is officially disappointed in u

giles14:
am officially ashamed of the so-called Russians electronic Warfare capacity and it's s400,s300 SAM in Syria.

Focus on Ukraine you will be impressed.

giles14:
if it's true then let's wait for Russians response if it will every come

The United States gave an advanced warning to Russia about the Thursday evening strikes on a Syrian airfield, a Pentagon spokesperson told Sputnik.The warning was communicated through the existing deconfliction channel, the spokesperson confirmed, without giving any details of the missile attack.

Pentagon also said that United States did not target the sections of the airbase where Russian forces were believed to be present.

The U.S. Tomahawk missiles used in the attack could have been struck down by the S-300 and S-400 surface-to-air weaponry which Russia already had in place in Syria, specifically to defend against this kind of attack (source: Washington Post). But Russia chose not to do so. That suggests Russia knew in advance that the U.S. missiles would not be imposing serious damage. Russia could only have known this if the U.S. told it as much in advance.

DictatorZAR1:
Off topic. Breaking News Russia has just informed Trump it has withdrawn all Air Safety Agreements with the Pentagon in Syria Airspace.

I would love to see a mini show of US Navy against S-400.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/us-russia-air-strikes-syria-suspend-agreement-memorandum-direct-conflict-military-donald-trump-putin-a7671631.html

i think it is all politics. Each leader is simply playing to a domestic audience. There would be no fireworks.

pls wots the use of Pantsir-S1 that the Syrians bought 30+ systems. cos one of its capacity is against Cruise missiles

Henry240:
i think it is all politics. Each leader is simply playing to a domestic audience. There would be no fireworks.

The cruise-missile carrying frigate Admiral Grigorevich was seen passing south through the Bosporus on Friday morning, heading to Syria reports Roland Oliphant .

The frigate, which carries Russia's state-of-the-art Kalibr cruise missiles, came home from the Mediterranean just nine days ago.

giles14:
pls wots the use of Pantsir-S1 that the Syrians bought 30+ systems.
cos one of its capacity is against Cruise missiles

What about Nigeria that has only roland, blowpipe, strella and shilka nko what hope do we have..??

The missiles were fired from the USS Porter and the USS Ross. – Opposition wants more strikes – The strike targeted radars, aircraft, air defence systems and other logistical components at the base south of Homs in central Syria. In a statement read on state television, the army confirmed the strike and said it had caused extensive damage. Russia’s military said the strike had an “extremely low” military impact, with fewer than half of the 59 missiles reaching the airbase. The missiles destroyed six planes under repair and several buildings, including a storage depot and radio station, it said. A Syrian military source said the armed forces had been warned in advance of the US operation, without specifying by which party. “We took precautions in more than one military point, including in the Shayrat airbase. We moved a number of airplanes towards other areas,” the official told AFP. Opposition and rebel fighters, who have for years urged more direct US military action in support of their uprising, hailed the strike and called for more. The National Coalition, the main opposition grouping, called on Washington to take further steps to “neutralise” the regime’s air power. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, a longtime foe of Assad, also called for more action. “I welcome this concrete step as positive,” said Erdogan. “I don’t see this as enough… the time has come for steps for a serious result to protect the oppressed Syrian people.” But the White House was quick to paint the decision as limited to deterring the use of chemical weapons, and not part of a broader military campaign. “The intent was to deter the regime from doing this again, and it is certainly our hope that this has had that effect,” said Pentagon spokesman Navy Captain Jeff Davis. – ‘Enough killing and injustice’ – US officials said Russia’s military in Syria was informed of the strike beforehand in order to avoid casualties that could prompt a broader crisis. Russia stood by Damascus this week despite the global uproar, insisting the chemical weapons that caused the deaths in Khan Sheikhun had been stockpiled by “terrorists” and possibly released by a conventional strike.

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/04/fury-in-damascus-moscow-as-us-strikes-syria-airbase/

For now without more info I'm taking the latest Syria thing as a desperate Anglo Zionist US plot to regain power by stampeding us all to war after their candidate lost.

iblawi:
The missiles were fired from the USS Porter and the USS Ross. – Opposition wants more strikes – The strike targeted radars, aircraft, air defence systems and other logistical components at the base south of Homs in central Syria. In a statement read on state television, the army confirmed the strike and said it had caused extensive damage. Russia’s military said the strike had an “extremely low” military impact, with fewer than half of the 59 missiles reaching the airbase. The missiles destroyed six planes under repair and several buildings, including a storage depot and radio station, it said. A Syrian military source said the armed forces had been warned in advance of the US operation, without specifying by which party. “We took precautions in more than one military point, including in the Shayrat airbase. We moved a number of airplanes towards other areas,” the official told AFP. Opposition and rebel fighters, who have for years urged more direct US military action in support of their uprising, hailed the strike and called for more. The National Coalition, the main opposition grouping, called on Washington to take further steps to “neutralise” the regime’s air power. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, a longtime foe of Assad, also called for more action. “I welcome this concrete step as positive,” said Erdogan. “I don’t see this as enough… the time has come for steps for a serious result to protect the oppressed Syrian people.” But the White House was quick to paint the decision as limited to deterring the use of chemical weapons, and not part of a broader military campaign. “The intent was to deter the regime from doing this again, and it is certainly our hope that this has had that effect,” said Pentagon spokesman Navy Captain Jeff Davis. – ‘Enough killing and injustice’ – US officials said Russia’s military in Syria was informed of the strike beforehand in order to avoid casualties that could prompt a broader crisis. Russia stood by Damascus this week despite the global uproar, insisting the chemical weapons that caused the deaths in Khan Sheikhun had been stockpiled by “terrorists” and possibly released by a conventional strike.

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/04/fury-in-damascus-moscow-as-us-strikes-syria-airbase/

what if Assad was actually telling the truth and that it was really an airstrike against ISIS chemical plant that releases the gas...
.
oh well nobody cares about the truth.

Nemesis2u what do you know of Tamil kalaripiyattu? Yes,I know every martial artist proclaims his own form or technique the "deadliest"/"most effective"/"efficient"....etc,etc but this ancient karate had over 60 death blows (but few fist strikes) combined yoga,weapons and Vedic knowledge of anatomy. Imo it wasn't hype since the Brits banned it. Is it still practiced in its original form? Is it used by your Ghataks and/or specops?
Would love to know;it seems a travelling Kalari fighter took this to China where it morphed into Kung fu and all the other martial arts.

lionel4power:
what if Assad was actually telling the truth and that it was really an airstrike against ISIS chemical plant that releases the gas...
.
oh well nobody cares about the truth.

Who listened to sadam and Gaddafi? Did they find any nuclear weapon in those countries? What did UN do to America?

They've made up their mind on the next country to attack and remember it's the Republican that is ruling and they must go to war.

nemesis2u:
one important thing missing from this ship is the secondary volume search radar.

this means this ship will be dependent on external sources be it other naval ships fitted with the above or UAVs or AWACS for sniffing out targets.

looks like the south koreans gave a deep thought about this , swapping the secondary radar space for another VLS pack for land attack missiles and destined to operate optimally near the korean peninsular region only.

it will never venture on a expeditionary mission on a standalone basis that much is given, unless accompanied by the above mentioned assets.

nice analysis I didn't look at it that way...

iblawi:
Who listened to sadam and Gaddafi? Did they find any nuclear weapon in those countries? What did UN do to America?

They've made up their mind on the next country to attack and remember it's the Republican that is ruling and they must go to war.

the only twist is that russia is in play and despite US gong-ho attitude they still have to look out for Russia. Pissing Russia off wont do anybody any good.
.


now Russia's guided missile frigate is on all ahead flank speed to Syria...

lionel4power:
what if Assad was actually telling the truth and that it was really an airstrike against ISIS chemical plant that releases the gas...
.
oh well nobody cares about the truth.

I don't use if because Assad seems to be telling the truth. Why would someone who is already winning a war and diplomatic favour, launch a chemical attack? Don't we all no that Syria's chemical weapons were shipped to Europe?
Why is the US so Afraid of a proper investigation?
Seems Trump use Syria as a bargaining tool to brag to the Chinese president that, they can unilaterally strike North Korea too

Just30:
I don't use if because Assad seems to be telling the truth. Why would someone who is already winning a war and diplomatic favour, launch a chemical attack? Don't we all no that Syria's chemical weapons were shipped to Europe?
Why is the US so Afraid of a proper investigation?
Seems Trump use Syria as a bargaining tool to brag to the Chinese president that, they can unilaterally strike North Korea too

Smart guy. Apparently, the strike occured during his meeting with XI

ollah2:
Smart guy. Apparently, the strike occured during his meeting with XI

After.

Just30:
I don't use if because Assad seems to be telling the truth. Why would someone who is already winning a war and diplomatic favour, launch a chemical attack? Don't we all no that Syria's chemical weapons were shipped to Europe?
Why is the US so Afraid of a proper investigation?
Seems Trump use Syria as a bargaining tool to brag to the Chinese president that, they can unilaterally strike North Korea too

we dont know if Assad is winning the war.
neither do we know if all of assads Chemical weapons was shipped to europe.

it all look so fishy everything looks fishy.

*days after isreali airstrike.
*a chemical was mysteriously released during an airstrike against a chemical factory
*no Un investigation.
*Russians evacuate the base.
*assad forces evacuate too
*US airstrike.
*only 9 damaged planes hit
*runway still okay
*only 6 soldier killed.
*ISIS attacks Immediately after the strike
*Russia quiet
*Assad quiet.

kikuyu1:
Nemesis2u what do you know of Tamil kalaripiyattu? Yes,I know every martial artist proclaims his own form or technique the "deadliest"/"most effective"/"efficient"....etc,etc but this ancient karate had over 60 death blows (but few fist strikes) combined yoga,weapons and Vedic knowledge of anatomy. Imo it wasn't hype since the Brits banned it. Is it still practiced in its original form? Is it used by your Ghataks and/or specops?
Would love to know;it seems a travelling Kalari fighter took this to China where it morphed into Kung fu and all the other martial arts.

Tamil kalaripiyattu?

no such thing,
it is Indian kalaripiyattu also known as Kalari
the state of Kerala ultimately manged to preserve it in the end

The oldest reference to this martial art is found in the Rigveda and Atharvaveda (3rd century BC). Traditionally Kalaripayattu is described as a creation of Hindu Gods.

In Rigveda it is mentioned that lord Indra defeated the daemon Vritasura using one of the marmam techniques of Kalari. Marmam are pressure points in the human body and experienced practitioners can disable or kill their opponents by a mere touch of the opponent’s Marmam.

Sushruta, one of the famous Indian ayurvedic medical practitioner and researcher who lived in 6th century BC identified and defined 107 vital points of the human body in his book Sushruta Samhita. Of these 107 points, 64 were classified as being lethal if properly struck with a fist or stick.

Shiva was said to have taught Parasurama (sixth avatar of Vishnu), the art of Kalaripayattu, which arised itself out of Shiva's war with his Father-In-Law Daksha, one of the Prajapatis or 'Lords Of Creation'. Later, Parasurama taught his 21 disciples the art of Kalaripayattu, and then opened 108 Kalari (school's/gymnasiums) around the Kerala region, Southern Indian state.

one of the buddhist monks Bodhi Dharma who founded the Zen buddhism and is called Chan in China was a Kalarippayattu master himself.

From his native Kancheepuram in South Indian state of Tamilnadu, he went to China in 522 AD to the court of Chinese emperor Liang Nuti. He taught Kalarippayattu at the Shaolin monastery to the buddhist monks to defend themselves from the frequent attacks by local bandits and dacoits. It has to be noted that all far eastern martial arts are taught by Buddhist monks. In China it is Kung Fu, Karate. In Japan the Samurai warriors are Zen Buddhists.

The Shaolin temple itself was founded by an Indian Dhyana master Buddhabhadra. On one of the walls of the Shaolin temple a fresco can be seen, showing south Indian dark-skinned monks, teaching the light-skinned Chinese the art of bare-handed fighting. On this painting are inscribed: Tenjiku Naranokaku which means: the fighting techniques to train the body (which come) from India.

In any martial art now is possible to recognize the respiration and Ki (or Chi) channeling, also the Zen philosophy is often in use (especially in Japan Samurais) and many positions (stances) are similar to Kalaripayattu.

it is known as the mother of all martial arts worldwide

The Origins of Indian martial arts can be traced back to the Dhanur Veda of the ancient Indian Vedic Civilization. Vishnu Purana considers these martial arts as one of the 18 branches of knowledge. It is said that Parashurama who recovered the land of Kerala from the seas established 42 kalari training schools and trained 21 masters to protect the land he created.

It is today more prevalent in the south Indian state of Kerala.

A kalari is the school or training hall where martial arts are taught. They were originally constructed according to vastu sastra with the entrance facing east and the main door situated on the centre-right. Sciences like mantra saastra, tantra saastra and marma saastra are utilized to balance the space's energy level. The training area comprises a puttara (seven tiered platform) in the south-western corner. The guardian deity (usually an avatar of Bhagavathi, Kali or Shiva) is located here, and is worshiped with flowers, incense and water before each training session which is preceded by a prayer. Northern styles are practiced in special roofed pits where the floor is 3.5 feet below the ground level and made of wet red clay meant to give a cushioning effect and prevent injury. The depth of the floor protects the practitioner from winds that could hamper body temperature. Southern styles are usually practiced in the open air or in an unroofed enclosure of palm branches.Traditionally, when a kalari was closed down it would be made into a small shrine dedicated to the guardian deity.

FYI Buddhism was born in India , essentially a subset of Hinduism and then spread to rest of the world including China, Japan, Thailand, Srilanka, Burma, Cambodia, Indonesia etc.
As a Chinese Ambassador to USA, Hu Shih once said India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border.. He was referring to the spread of Buddhism and related practices into China.

pic 1 kalari school/shrine

pic 2 kalari styles , reminds u from where the chinese got the idea about tiger fist , pray mantis etc style

pic 3 fighting with swords

pic 4 bare hand fighting

indian military dont use it exactly, it takes some elements only.

ghataks r shock troopers not SF

these r taught to the 'mavericks' only , dont ask me who they r , all i know they r a clandestine unit who operated/operates in africa , central asia , middle east, south east Asia , Tibet etc. they r military with non military mandate.

i know these mavericks in a ops had eliminated arms runners in somalia 2-3 years ago both onshore and offshore

nemesis2u:
Tamil kalaripiyattu?

no such thing,
it is Indian kalaripiyattu also known as Kalari
the state of Kerala ultimately manged to preserve it in the end

The oldest reference to this martial art is found in the Rigveda and Atharvaveda (3rd century BC). Traditionally Kalaripayattu is described as a creation of Hindu Gods.

In Rigveda it is mentioned that lord Indra defeated the daemon Vritasura using one of the marmam techniques of Kalari. Marmam are pressure points in the human body and experienced practitioners can disable or kill their opponents by a mere touch of the opponent’s Marmam.

Sushruta, one of the famous Indian ayurvedic medical practitioner and researcher who lived in 6th century BC identified and defined 107 vital points of the human body in his book Sushruta Samhita. Of these 107 points, 64 were classified as being lethal if properly struck with a fist or stick.

Shiva was said to have taught Parasurama (sixth avatar of Vishnu), the art of Kalaripayattu, which arised itself out of Shiva's war with his Father-In-Law Daksha, one of the Prajapatis or 'Lords Of Creation'. Later, Parasurama taught his 21 disciples the art of Kalaripayattu, and then opened 108 Kalari (school's/gymnasiums) around the Kerala region, Southern Indian state.

one of the buddhist monks Bodhi Dharma who founded the Zen buddhism and is called Chan in China was a Kalarippayattu master himself.

From his native Kancheepuram in South Indian state of Tamilnadu, he went to China in 522 AD to the court of Chinese emperor Liang Nuti. He taught Kalarippayattu at the Shaolin monastery to the buddhist monks to defend themselves from the frequent attacks by local bandits and dacoits. It has to be noted that all far eastern martial arts are taught by Buddhist monks. In China it is Kung Fu, Karate. In Japan the Samurai warriors are Zen Buddhists.

The Shaolin temple itself was founded by an Indian Dhyana master Buddhabhadra. On one of the walls of the Shaolin temple a fresco can be seen, showing south Indian dark-skinned monks, teaching the light-skinned Chinese the art of bare-handed fighting. On this painting are inscribed: Tenjiku Naranokaku which means: the fighting techniques to train the body (which come) from India.

In any martial art now is possible to recognize the respiration and Ki (or Chi) channeling, also the Zen philosophy is often in use (especially in Japan Samurais) and many positions (stances) are similar to Kalaripayattu.

it is known as the mother of all martial arts worldwide

The Origins of Indian martial arts can be traced back to the Dhanur Veda of the ancient Indian Vedic Civilization. Vishnu Purana considers these martial arts as one of the 18 branches of knowledge. It is said that Parashurama who recovered the land of Kerala from the seas established 42 kalari training schools and trained 21 masters to protect the land he created.

It is today more prevalent in the south Indian state of Kerala.

A kalari is the school or training hall where martial arts are taught. They were originally constructed according to vastu sastra with the entrance facing east and the main door situated on the centre-right. Sciences like mantra saastra, tantra saastra and marma saastra are utilized to balance the space's energy level. The training area comprises a puttara (seven tiered platform) in the south-western corner. The guardian deity (usually an avatar of Bhagavathi, Kali or Shiva) is located here, and is worshiped with flowers, incense and water before each training session which is preceded by a prayer. Northern styles are practiced in special roofed pits where the floor is 3.5 feet below the ground level and made of wet red clay meant to give a cushioning effect and prevent injury. The depth of the floor protects the practitioner from winds that could hamper body temperature. Southern styles are usually practiced in the open air or in an unroofed enclosure of palm branches.Traditionally, when a kalari was closed down it would be made into a small shrine dedicated to the guardian deity.

FYI Buddhism was born in India , essentially a subset of Hinduism and then spread to rest of the world including China, Japan, Thailand, Srilanka, Burma, Cambodia, Indonesia etc.
As a Chinese Ambassador to USA, Hu Shih once said India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border.. He was referring to the spread of Buddhism and related practices into China.

pic 1 kalari school/shrine

pic 2 kalari styles , reminds u from where the chinese got the idea about tiger fist , pray mantis etc style

pic 3 fighting with swords

pic 4 bare hand fighting

indian military dont use it exactly, it takes some elements only.

ghataks r shock troopers not SF

these r taught to the 'mavericks' only , dont ask me who they r , all i know they r a clandestine unit who operated/operates in africa , central asia , middle east, south east Asia , Tibet etc. they r military with non military mandate.

just one bullet

lionel4power:
just one bullet

quite a optimistic and overly simplistic aren't u

a single bullet will kill a single person

a tradition/culture will raise countless adherents to fight for a cause, they will keep coming and coming , they will survive because they have a cause, a sense of responsibility to do so.

missing the woods for the trees


if a single bullet is all that is required then why train ?
any fool can shoot
why teach offensive / defensive tactics , unarmed combat etc ?

Krav Maga ? Systema Spetsnaz ? heard of them why take all the pains to develop it train for it ?
when it is a matter of a single bullet.

lol

@kikuyu1 heard of KALI / eskrima the filipinos claim it originated from indian martial arts.

this one is taught to indian specops (some elements)

@kikuyu1

which one is ur choice ?

nemesis2u:
quite a optimistic and overly simplistic aren't u

a single bullet will kill a single person

a tradition/culture will raise countless adherents to fight for a cause, they will keep coming and coming , they will survive because they have a cause, a sense of responsibility to do so.

missing the woods for the trees


if a single bullet is all that is required then why train ?
any fool can shoot
why teach offensive / defensive tactics , unarmed combat etc ?

Krav Maga ? Systema Spetsnaz ? heard of them why take all the pains to develop it train for it ?
when it is a matter of a single bullet.

lol

@kikuyu1 heard of KALI / eskrima the filipinos claim it originated from indian martial arts.

this one is taught to indian specops (some elements)

no martial art has ever stopped a bullet.

kali filipino martial arts

knife combat mainly

everybody busy wasting time when all it takes is a single bullet

lionel4power:
no martial art has ever stopped a bullet.

thats the difference

no need to stop a bullet

when u can dodge the bullet

ur generalizing too much

there r specific situations which need specific solutions

lets stop this
and have some fun

nemesis2u:
thats the difference
no need to stop a bullet
when u can dodge the bullet
ur generalizing too much
there r specific situations which need specific solutions
lets stop this and have some fun

if bullet fails hand grenade wont fail...

lionel4power:
if bullet fails hand grenade wont fail...

and if grenades fail a ATGM will do

if ATGM fails a 1000 kg PGM will do

if a 1000 kg PGM fails then a tactical 20kiloton nuclear strike will do

if a tactical 20kiloton nuclear strike fails a 5 megaton nuclear strike will do

if a 5 megaton nuclear strike fails ....... well waiting for the scientists to invent something more destructive


this was fun

nemesis2u:

@kikuyu1
which one is ur choice ?

I'll rather hold the towel

Odunayaw:
I'll rather hold the towel

safest option IMO

i think i will join u , just behind u