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Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by davidif: 8:36am On Apr 08, 2017
ExInferis:
So in essence, the entirety of the CBN, despite their experience, data, info, knowledge, history, education, and intelligence lacks common sense in what is essentially their business?

But you know better?
It's one thing to know what to do. It's another to have the courage to do it. Neither Emiefiele nor his boss Buhari is willing to make the very difficult choice.
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by aribisala0(m): 8:36am On Apr 08, 2017
aribisala0:
The issue is not whether countries do not have reserves or not the issue is how much so do not try to change the subject. One at the current rate of intervention base on earnings how long will it take to halve current reserves. The theoretical advice is countries should maintain reserves to sustain at least 3 months of imports.Anyway let us not major in minor.My question was should THE CBN SELL ZERO DOLLARS OR DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ABOUT HOW HUGH TO SELL?
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by yinkslinks(m): 8:37am On Apr 08, 2017
Please is it back at N375 in the banks?
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by LionDeLeo: 8:39am On Apr 08, 2017
naijaking1:
Does Nigeria have an unlimited supply of the dollar?
If the answer is no, then you'll understand that using our small foreign reserve to prop up the naira temporarily is an economic foolishness.
Good export base of products and services is the only way to boost any currency. Injecting dollar directly to prop up the naira is also another form of corruption, because those famed economists that work at the CBN know that's it useless.
The dollar earnings (through crude oil) has always been used to shore up the Naira since the beginning of times. The free fall of the Naira in recent times is purely a consequence of the fall in oil price vis-a-vis low output, otherwise, how do you expect reduced government revenue to be felt by the oil-dependent economy? (That is the meaning of recession). Note, same would have been the case in the past but for robust Foreign Reserve which in this case had been depleted by the previous administration even with high oil price and reasonable output. Do you have to be an Economist to understand this simple logic? Also, Naira is our currency, the government spends Naira, so the dollar earnings must still be converted to Naira or does govt pay salaries in dollars? The over $2b pumped so far was not given out free, it was exchanged for the Naira at 375/$, meaning the govt got 375× 2 billion (750 billion) from that exchange even though the official rate is 306/$.

Meanwhile, which products can you start exporting within 5 months from now to salvage the Naira? This is what almost everybody has been saying without suggesting any exportable items.

Don't just blame when you don't have any practicable alternative, what the CBN is doing is the only option in the interim pending the outcome of a long lasting solutions or do you want the Naira to hit 2000/$ while hatching out plans for export base?
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by aribisala0(m): 8:39am On Apr 08, 2017
davidif:
Both sir. I know that the airline i wanted to fly once stopped operating in Nigeria because they could not repatriate there funds. So it is both.
What is the name of the airline
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by twosquare(m): 8:39am On Apr 08, 2017
Dottore:
They said there's steady weekly supply of dollars by CBN yet Naira is still falling. I don't understand. Can someone pls explain. The worst is that I sold my precious dollar saving at 387 weeks ago.
grin You shouldn't have. I said that this their fire brigade approach is not sustainable but many called me names, even eegunmogaji was called a speculator. I SMH at people who can't see beyond now...these are still the early days of 2017...people should not laugh yet at those who predicted N600 plus to a $. You just fell a victim to fear mongers who thought selling of all the dollars will still make the naira to rise...nah...the IMF statement was what nailed the coffin of the Naira. grin You can check my article here that I wrote in early march:https://www.techbiz101.com/forex/
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by davidif: 8:40am On Apr 08, 2017
ExInferis:
And, of course, little old unemployed you knows more than the experts in the CBN, with all their Yale and Harvard and Cambridge degrees and years of experience and armies of top notch consultants.

In fact, if they really want to prop up the naira, they ought to make you CBN governor since you're so smarter than those fools in the CBN.
It is one thing to know what to do and it's another thing to have the guts to do it. Midfield and his boss, Buhari know what to do but don't have the guts to make the very difficult choices.
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by davidif: 8:41am On Apr 08, 2017
aribisala0:
What is the name of the airline
United.
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by selfemployed(m): 8:41am On Apr 08, 2017
injecting dollars into the economy is a waste of time, china tried it and failed. people will buy up the dollars everything will return to square one. what would have happened if those millions of dollars were invested in building businesses that will be generating dollars. jobs will be created, naira will become strong.
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by davidif: 8:43am On Apr 08, 2017
musicwriter:
There's little good policies can do, if the world bank and IMF is bent on destroying the economy of a target country. Didn't you read the CBN have enough dollar supply to the market? Yet, it miraculously stopped having any positive effect since the IMF released the report on Nigeria.
Oh goodness! The conspiracy theorists and pseudo economists have arrived.

Did the IF not offer the same solutions to Egypt which they took and applied and now Egypt has the best performing currency because it's leaders where wiĺing to make the difficult choices and STICK TO IT.
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by mployer(m): 8:43am On Apr 08, 2017
ExInferis:
So in essence, the entirety of the CBN, despite their experience, data, info, knowledge, history, education, and intelligence lacks common sense in what is essentially their business?

But you know better?
Bro, Emefelie lacks common sense.

Elementary economics teaches that quantity demanded will increase the moment price is reduced. Even a street trader knows this.

Forcing down dollar to 360 will cause increase in demand for dollar which he doesn't have a means to sustain. The result will be dollar scarcity and subsequent rise in price, causing turbulence and instability in the economy.
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by Abudu2000(m): 8:43am On Apr 08, 2017
9jakohai:
It isn't about bubu resigning, but whether the govt is ready to make the hard choices needed to develop a manufacturing based economy, which is what would take us to a strong currency
and you think a dullard can create a manufacturing economy?? When a phd holder couldn't achieve?
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by mandax: 8:43am On Apr 08, 2017
veekid:

Buhari should just handover to Osunbande joooor
Or let Buhari go another medical tour abroad, to let Naira improve in value.
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by Jesusloveyou: 8:44am On Apr 08, 2017
davidif:
They are just pushing the problem.down the road. None of them seem courageous to tackle it and admit the truth to.the Nigerian people .
you can see how emefiele under your ineffectual buffoon push the problem down to buhari govt. Which is another prove that recession were push down to this govt,
Even when oil price was high, they were stil defending naira from foreign reserve save by obj even when oil price were stil low.
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by aribisala0(m): 8:46am On Apr 08, 2017
People keep banging on about reserves as if there is no dollar income whilst in truth reserves have grown slightly in the last 12 months . Selling dollars does not mean propping up the Naira. There is a duty of the CBN to supply some of the market requirements. What should not happen is to sell below market value. The CBN must sell within its means and $300 million a week is not propping up territory in my book it is sustainable based on current receipts, if that changes then adjustments should be made
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by Nobody: 8:47am On Apr 08, 2017
Abudu2000:
and you think a dullard can create a manufacturing economy?? When a phd holder couldn't achieve?
That's why presidents have ministers, civil servants and advisers.....

Problem with Nigeria is that since independence, we have allowed our over-abundance of natural resources to think that we can rely on the income from their export.

Also...becoming a manufacturing society means making hard choices, an intial long period of harsh economy, worse than what we have now....and lots of hard work. Not vote winners by any margin. Better look for more raw materials to export...and spend the money importing stuff(not that it has worked either).
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by davidif: 8:49am On Apr 08, 2017
Jesusloveyou:
you can see how emefiele under your ineffectual buffoon push the problem down to buhari govt. Which is another prove that recession were push down to this govt,
Even when oil price was high, they were stil defending naira from foreign reserve save by obj even when oil price were stil low.
Dude it's not time to point fingers about who did what or who should have done what. Buhari is the president now and its his job to fix it or move so that someone else can do it. Pointing fingers and name calling is not going to solve this problem.
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by musicwriter(m): 8:50am On Apr 08, 2017
davidif:
Oh goodness! The conspiracy theorists and pseudo economists have arrived.
This is no conspiracy theory. I've been saying this for a long time, and I think you quoted me some weeks ago saying the same thing. Indeed, I said the IMF was soon going to release a damning report on Nigeria and that the result would be bad for the Naira. The fact you don't understand how this thing works doesn't make it a conspiracy theory.
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by Abudu2000(m): 8:53am On Apr 08, 2017
9jakohai:
That's why presidents have ministers, civil servants and advisers.....

Problem with Nigeria is that since independence, we have allowed our over-abundance of natural resources to think that we can rely on the income from their export.

Also...becoming a manufacturing society means making hard choices, an intial long period of harsh economy, worse than what we have now....and lots of hard work. Not vote winners by any margin. Better look for more raw materials to export...and spend the money importing stuff(not that it has worked either).
look mr man, don't try your ill-brain washing skills here, everything was fine until the dullard came into power.


no one even noticed things getting outta control, even the hardship we experienced then is the betterment we seek now.....

Idk if you are on someone's payroll but that person should fine a better troll to do online damage quarter backs for him

Have a nice day
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by davidif: 8:53am On Apr 08, 2017
musicwriter:
This is no conspiracy theory. I've been saying this for a long time, and I think you quoted me some weeks ago saying the same thing. Indeed, I said the IMF was soon going to release a damning report on Nigeria and that the result would be bad for the Naira. The fact you don't understand how this thing works doesn't make it a conspiracy theory.
Dude, some years ago, Egypt was in a similar predicament as we are now but the IMF offerrd them the same solutions which they applied and now they have the best performing currency because it's leaders where wiĺing to make the difficult choices and STICK TO IT.
So what are you talking about bro?
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by aribisala0(m): 8:55am On Apr 08, 2017
davidif:
United.
I don't class that as an Investor. How much money did they bring into Nigeria? Those are opportunists
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by davidif:
aribisala0:
I don't class that as an Investor. How much money did they bring into Nigeria? Those are opportunists
Well you might not consider them investors but others do.
They invest in our economy by operating here. They buy jet fuel from here don't they? Or na u dey buy am?
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by loswhite(m): 9:02am On Apr 08, 2017
dayus444:
But why is FG and the CBN always like this? Trying to use use artificial, unsustainable measures to correct abnormalities caused by our status as a strictly consuming and import-dependent economy. Are they taking us for fools or what? Or are they just all totally dumb in that organization? Which way Nigeria?
the problem with Nigeria u do something they complain u don't do nothing they still complain. What Is your suggestion and how do u intend to implement it over to u chief economist
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by LordVoldemort(m): 9:04am On Apr 08, 2017
davidif:
How long is he going to do This? Until we burn up our foreign cash reserves? This policy is short sighted and insane bro.
The foreign reserve will be okay as long as the price of oil stays above $50. As the foregin reserve dropped drastically since the intervention started? No so no cause for alarm
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by modath(f): 9:04am On Apr 08, 2017
Clone2020:
If you are in the US or have relatives in the US trying to send money to naija, I will exchange the funds at 340/$, simply deposit into my US bank account and receive instant funding into your Nigerian account. Don't bother with western Union and co, they exchange at 355/$ with fees and the exchange rate drops to around 316/$...

Contact in signature..
340 sounds cool!! wink
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by loswhite(m): 9:04am On Apr 08, 2017
naijaking1:
Does Nigeria have an unlimited supply of the dollar?
If the answer is no, then you'll understand that using our small foreign reserve to prop up the naira temporarily is an economic foolishness.
Good export base of products and services is the only way to boost any currency. Injecting dollar directly to prop up the naira is also another form of corruption, because those famed economists that work at the CBN know that's it useless.
the problem is we only know how to type rubbish. What u type as suggestions is what a secondary school students already knw. Tell us something we don't know and implement it. Always easy to run mouth when u are behind a phone
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by Nobody: 9:06am On Apr 08, 2017
LionDeLeo:
The dollar earnings (through crude oil) has always been used to shore up the Naira since the beginning of times. The free fall of the Naira in recent times is purely a consequence of the fall in oil price vis-a-vis low output, otherwise, how do you expect reduced government revenue to be felt by the oil-dependent economy? (That is the meaning of recession). Note, same would have been the case in the past but for robust Foreign Reserve which in this case had been depleted by the previous administration even with high oil price and reasonable output. Do you have to be an Economist to understand this simple logic? Also, Naira is our currency, the government spends Naira, so the dollar earnings must still be converted to Naira or does govt pay salaries in dollars? The over $2b pumped so far was not given out free, it was exchanged for the Naira at 375/$, meaning the govt got 375× 2 billion (750 billion) from that exchange even though the official rate is 306/$.

Meanwhile, which products can you start exporting within 5 months from now to salvage the Naira? This is what almost everybody has been saying without suggesting any exportable items.

Don't just blame when you don't have any practicable alternative, what the CBN is doing is the only option in the interim pending the outcome of a long lasting solutions or do you want the Naira to hit 2000/$ while hatching out plans for export base?
I like your post....I gave you a like even.

BUT.....we must start manufacturing for export....even if it means naira goes to N2300 to $1 in the interim.
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by aribisala0(m): 9:06am On Apr 08, 2017
mployer:
Bro, Emefelie lacks common sense.

Elementary economics teaches that quantity demanded will increase the moment price is reduced. Even a street trader knows this.

Forcing down dollar to 360 will cause increase in demand for dollar which he doesn't have a means to sustain. The result will be dollar scarcity and subsequent rise in price, causing turbulence and instability in the economy.
This is not about Forcing anything. The CBN has no choice but to sell some dollars. When we sell oil kindly explain how the proceeds will be shared among the tiers of government if dollars are not sold?State governments don't spend dollars by law. The CBN have alwaysome done this it did not start with Emefiele so why did we not have these sharp fluctuations before? It all comes down to confidence? Why did your so called elementary economics manifest 3 or 4 years ago.
The question is not whether CBN should sell dollars but at what price and how many they can afford to sell
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by Nobody: 9:07am On Apr 08, 2017
Abudu2000:
look mr man, don't try your ill-brain washing skills here, everything was fine until the dullard came into power.


no one even noticed things getting outta control, even the hardship we experienced then is the betterment we seek now.....

Idk if you are on someone's payroll but that person should fine a better troll to do online damage quarter backs for him

Have a nice day
You did not get my post.
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by Nobody: 9:08am On Apr 08, 2017
itzmoni:
guess u b G boy...smiles..
Im not by any means a G boy.

I wont tell u what i am tongue
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by Smooyis(m): 9:08am On Apr 08, 2017
The CBN efforts are unsustainable. We are a profligate nation. shocked
Re: Naira Slides To 405/$ Amid Tight Dollar Supply by Abudu2000(m): 9:08am On Apr 08, 2017
9jakohai:
You did not get my post.
i dont want to either
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