₦airaland Forum

Sammiejo:
Mathias, IMHO this your article seem anti-itsekiri and ijaw. I know you are pro-Urhobo, but if you are really projecting Warri as you claim you should be speaking equally to all major tribes co-locating in Warri: Isoko, Itsekiri Ijaw, and Urhobo.

omoharry:
Warri boys head too hot abeg..why wont all the influential sons and daughters of warri stay away and invest in Lagos when Warri has become an abode for kidnappers and robbers..Warri need to be safe before any meaningful investment by individuals can take place there.

Nowenuse:
You are quite correct with your facts.

There are always 2 sides to a coin afterall, just that some people always choose to tell a single part completely ignoring the other.

First of all, there is no way one can talk about Warri without including the itsekirs who are arguably the owners of majority of the main Warri city which later developed into Uvwie and Udu urhobo areas.

Secondly, i wonder how Urhobos with just 8 or 10 LGAs can ever match groups like Kanuris that dominate 2 entire populated states who always produce 2 governors and 5 senators every political tenure, with millions of people in Niger republic and Chad who claim Nigeria or Tivs with 14 largely homogenous populated LGAs in Benue and others in Nasarawa, Taraba, Cross river and even Cameroon. Or a tribe like Gbagyi that dominate about 24 LGAs in Niger, Kaduna, FCT and Nasarawa states.
I even doubt Urhobos will be more than Igalas, Ebiras, Idomas and Nupes, just that middlebelt/northern minority groups do not make ethnic noises because the old northern regional govt which they were born into never promoted ethnicity but regionalism.

We also know that Ibibio-Efik-Annang are divided, but if he could join Urhobo-Isoko together as one, i wonder why he would not join the former together as one, when we even know that within the Urhobo, many Okpe people claim a distinct identity from Urhobos.
He even claimed that Urhobo-Isoko cluster could likely be more than Ibibio-Efik-Annang cluster which everyone knows cannot be possible when the latter have a populated entire state like Akwa Ibom and a third of another state Cross river to themselves.

I understand that as individuals we may love our ethnic groups so much, but i don't think we should go as far as twisting facts to achieve that. @Fratermathy

1. Isokos and Urhobos are one and the same and if that appears to be land grabbing to you, then sorry, let the Isokos speak for themselves as the Aniomas usually do. Never have I called Isokos Urhobos as you Igbos call every minority group. I respect their identity and compound the names to Urhobo-Isoko. We don't land grab. We carry each other along. The Isokos do the same to us as well.

2. Iwerre Kingdom is NOT the same as Warri City. Iwerre is based at Ode-Itsekiri island, off the Warri City. So when you mention Iwerre kingdom, you are NOT referring to Warri City in any way. The Olu of Iwerre knows his domain and certainly can't cross them for anything, just as the Ovie of Agbarha-Warri Kingdom and Orosuen of Okere-Urhobo Kingdom know their domains.

3. Urhobo is regarded as 5th largest ethnic group in Nigeria according to my sources. If yours say different, then go with yours. It's not a contest. All minorities are nothing but minorities and the so-called majorities, such as you, throw our insignificance to us to massage your egos.


As for Warri, Urhobos, Itsekiris and Ijaws all know their areas in Warri. Urhobos occupy Warri South LGA traditionally, so I don't know what you mean by the fact that it has grown larger to cover neighbouring tribes?

Have you heard of Agbassa-Warri? Okere-Urhobo? Are you aware that these places are the location of the MAIN Warri city? This is not even with Uvwie (another LGA), Udu (another LGA) and Okpe (Osuba-another LGA)!

pablo69:
bravo omniknowest, how "informed" for you to use the word "BEFORE" but now mr omniknowest,how many geographical zones do we have?? Omniknowest don't we have south south,south west and south east now?? Village man... Stop attributing the present to the past.

Datazone:
Oga keep your dirty mouth shut before you misinform the public. RMD and Fathia Balogun are not Urhobos. If you say this thing in public you may get the beating of your life. That's how you twist and rewrite people's history for them and you create problems for your tribe in the future.

Datazone:
Oga keep your dirty mouth shut before you misinform the public. RMD and Fathia Balogun are not Urhobos. If you say this thing in public you may get the beating of your life. That's how you twist and rewrite people's history for them and you create problems for your tribe in the future.

YorubaMuslims:
town man, I said Rising Sun is based on the old Eastern Region

fratermathy:
I have already answered all that you listed over again on this thread.

Like bigfrancis21, you are speaking from the perspective of non-Urhobo and you should.


Leave me to wallow in my ignorance, if you see my perspective as being ignorant. It's my choice.

Speaking about LGAs as if population correlates with number of LGAs or states!

fratermathy:
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Where all the correct Waffarians de sef? Oya make una observe the matter wey de ground if my ota confam. Una know say if food don done, na the scent de call area.

Sanchez01
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fratermathy:
You know Agbon, Ughelli, Agbarho, Abraka and adjoining areas speak almost the same variant of central Urhobo. That's exactly what I used in my posts. Although my spoken Urhobo has a particular leaning towards Abraka dialect, as many people have said. But I'm not from Abraka. I spent a part of my childhood there so I guess I acquired the spoken dialect unconsciously.

Kobiruo!

obiezed:
Ipob are the most virulent Biafra agitators around today,so if you mention Biafra agitation,it is assumed you mean ipob.
Even the ipob when questioned don't intend to include the urhobo/isoko in their agitation except there is some sort of formal agreement. They insist they only want Anioma,ika and ndokwa,I personally don't know if thats possible, but that what they say.also I think the problem most of y'all is differentiating ipob and Igbo,not all Igbo are ipoband not all ipobs are Igbo,if you get this,you will understand to refer directly to ipobs and not make blanket statements about all igbos.
Finally, No offence was taken,one love,

Datazone:
Oga keep your dirty mouth shut before you misinform the public. RMD and Fathia Balogun are not Urhobos. If you say this thing in public you may get the beating of your life. That's how you twist and rewrite people's history for them and you create problems for your tribe in the future.

Amarabae:
If the ika, ikwele, Enani are claiming wholly to be Igbos, he wouldnt have said that.. whats the essence of defending them when they will turn around and deny their origin?
Igbo identity is not for sale, we are a great people, I don't see why someone will lose sleep over who claim to be Igbo or not.
Open the windows, feel the fresh air and chill out.

baby124:
You are spitting on yourself. Shameless thief. Don't try to tell me what a village is. The fact is Urhobo and Isoko do not have villages in the SW. Period!

No one is threatened by you. You are just outraged that someone noticed the obvious lie you put there. You are a liar. Next time when you make up a writeup, be careful because some of us read it carefully. You know most people won't take the time to read such a lengthy post as most NL'ers are intellectually lazy. But I am not.

No one hates you, I am just correcting your outrageous lies here.

Nowenuse:
I dont know about RMD but as for Fathia Balogun i think she is Urhobo, she said it with her own mouth in the 2015 AMVC awards.
If you can get a medium to watch that award show again, pls do watch it and when she came out to receive a certain award (from yoruba film category i believe) she confirmed that she was an urhobo girl. I myself was very shocked and surprised, many of us always assumed that she was yoruba.

Many Deltans (Urhobo-Isokos mostly) who settled in Yoruba lands decades ago gave their children yoruba names and many were yorubanized. I also had a hostel mate like that during university whose name was Funmilola, the day she told me that she was an Isoko girl from Delta, i was shocked because even her father had a yoruba name, he speaks native Ijebu as well as Ijebu natives and married an ijebu woman according to her. Her grandparents were the ones who migrated from Isoko, Delta state and today almost her whole family have been Yorubanized (the long explanation was unnecessary though, i hope u get the point am trying to pass).

meezynetwork:
Mtshww

Sanchez01:
Hahahahahaha! Seeing Warri all over the thread reminds me of AY in '30 Days in Atlanta'

If there is anything that thrills me the most, it's the pidgin, the rhythm, and the dynamics of its slings. Unfortunately, this is something I don't have. My pidgin sucks that it sounds English

Honestly, you have reinforced my idea of spending one of my next year's leaves in Warri.

I have this weird soft spot for the pidgin that I would stare in utter amazement should anyone start rapping in pidgin, while spicing it with those mad slangs.

Ishilove, come and speak ya pidgin, please

GodIsBiafran:
That useless OP is one of the staunchest opponent of SE/SS unity. Bloody hypocrite. SPITS. Remove Igbo from your mouth.

Sanchez01:
This is an example of what I'm saying!

Okezenwa:
Lol. This one from Abia state claiming Isoko. Una no get shame at all. Spits

nkemdi89:
Warri is a great place, as a proud deltan I love to identify with them, that aspect of pidgin English I am trying to minimize my speaking, because have observed it creates an impression of one being rude, academically backward especially when communicating with people from other regions. The slogan warri no dey carry last indirectly has negative effects on the people as most of them are lazy and are always looking for short cut to success. If an urhobo man dupes you, you will understand that an IBO man is learning, that's why the anioma people refer to them as urhobo wayo. The op is a passionate urhobo man who has the love for his people, warri people should keep pride aside and develop other hidden potentials in them.

Alexis11:
As a Yoruba guy, if I have opportunity to slap one person, it should be that baby12whatever for not knowing the difference between settlers, migrants and indigenes .


The arguments he had with the OP was very unnecessary and I'm disappointed that OP gave him all the attention too.

Afam4eva:
I'm opening a topic on this issue. I've noticed that minorities particularly those from the Edo/Delta axis always tend to aculturize (any better word?) to bigger groups without you knowing that they are from these places until they tell you.Unlike Igbos, Yorubas and Hausas who mantain their culture to a large extent.

Nowenuse:
I am speaking from the perspective of a neutral Deltan, i was born and bred in Warri, Delta state but not fro the state and witnessing the past and even continued series of crisis which has rocked Delta state, i embarked on a fact finding and made my conclusions.

Population does not correlate with states but according to you, 'homeland population can be used to ascertain ethnic population', so calculate the homeland populations of those groups i mentioned, Tivs, Kanuris and Gbagyis and see that Urhobo does not come close.

As for Igalas, Idomas, Nupes and Igbirras, they don't have a large homeland population because their homeland is not developed at all but they constitute large populations in Northern/Western and parts of Eastern Nigerian cities hence i said they could likely outnumber or equal urhobos, but they clearly have as much or even more political power than Urhobos in Nigeria.

Take for instance, Nupes (and kanuris) are the only minority groups who have produced governors in 3 different states in Nigeria. Nupes have produced governors of Niger, Kwara and Kano states, they (and Gbagyis) always produce 2 senators in every political tenure unlike Urhobos who only produce 1 (Delta central).
So, however you choose to ascertain population of ethnic groups in Nigeria, there are at least 2-3 middlebelt/northern minority groups ahead of you Urhobos. Infact, most Kanuris and Tivs will feel insulted being compared to Urhobo-Isokos, both tribes can only be compared to Ijaws and maybe Ibibio-Efik-Annang (if they are one).
This is why i always make reference to the last ethnic census of 1963.

Sanchez01:
Hahahahahaha! Seeing Warri all over the thread reminds me of AY in '30 Days in Atlanta'

If there is anything that thrills me the most, it's the pidgin, the rhythm, and the dynamics of its slings. Unfortunately, this is something I don't have. My pidgin sucks that it sounds English

Honestly, you have reinforced my idea of spending one of my next year's leaves in Warri.

I have this weird soft spot for the pidgin that I would stare in utter amazement should anyone start rapping in pidgin, while spicing it with those mad slangs.

Ishilove, come and speak ya pidgin, please

fratermathy:
I was trying to educate him but later realised that he didn't come to be educated. I was so shocked because I know Yorubas don't have any issue with Urhobos, never did. I even suspected he may be a Yoruba impostor.

In any case, Yorubas remain friends to the Urhobo nation. There is no bad blood here.

Thanks for calling out baby124

baby124:
Stop playing yourself by calling my name. You lied, end of. You think I care what your other monikers say? Have some respect for yourself.

DBriteLitehouse:
Oh boy,noh mind the tongue of those people wen noh fit pronounce 'Urhobo Waado' na dem corrupt am to " Urhobo wayo'

I know sey some of our people dey dupe sha,based on logistics sey dem be human beings.But dem dey learn for IBUSA guys dey.