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Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by Basic123: 10:56am On Apr 14, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
Majority will find the question funny cos they weren't born in the days when Yahshua the Messiah was crucified, so they believe they can't be among those that flogged him. One thing we all need to know is that our actions of today places us in the same level as those that flogged and killed him. These actions include hating and persecuting Christians.

Are you among those who love to burn churches? Do you harbor a strong hate for Christians? Does your religion support the killing of Christians? Do you relish it when your tribe kills Christians? Do you attack Christians verbally online and offline? Do you do everything to subjugate and dominate them? Do you laugh at them?

If you do one of the above, then you would have been among the crowd that crucified Jesus, cos what they did then is no different from what you are doing today.

We will keep praying for you so that we can have a Saul the Persecutor who later became Paul the Apostle.
...Those people that flogged your God jesus Christ should be heroes for you now.At least they contributed to how your God died for your sin.
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by analice107: 10:58am On Apr 14, 2017
Liftedhands:
Word.
God bless you sir. Happy Resurrection.

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Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by Quinn22(f): 11:02am On Apr 14, 2017
I would say 90% of Nigerians would flog and crucify Jesus because most Nigerians are very judgmental beings and they like to criticise their fellow human beings a lot. Nigerians are the most judgemental people on the planet. sad
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by Eagleword14(f): 11:06am On Apr 14, 2017
Jesus Christ gave His life to redeem mankind from sin unto righteousness. whoever that commits sin crucifies Him the second time. Being a Christian is not by mere confession but having a Christ-like xter.
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by donnie(m): 11:06am On Apr 14, 2017
Basic123:
...Those people that flogged your God jesus Christ should be heroes for you now.At least they contributed to how your God died for your sin.

Yh they contributed to fulfilling God's plan, but the were nor guiltless.
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by Prince16: 11:08am On Apr 14, 2017
analice107:
And, as a Christian, do you find yourself pulling down servants of God anytime they slip?


Do you watch to see faults in the lives of other Christians so that you make a sermon out of it?

Are you a "Christian" soldier who kills his/her fellow wounded fallen Christian soldiers when satan causes him to stumble, or you are the type who goes on his/her knees and pray for healing and restoration of a fallen soldier?


Are you helping satan win the war against the Church with your mouth and wat you post on social Media?


Do you have a spear in your hand right now Piercing through the side of Christ with your words and actions?


Most of us even as Christians still drive nails into Christ.

We pretend to live sanctimonious lives because we are little people and our actions are little before men, but project the faults of other soldiers because they are in the lime light.


WE SHOULD NOTE THAT WE ARE HINDERING CHRIST, not these men.

I know quite well where u r going/coming from, and I think our paths has crossed on ds same issue.
For d avoidance of doubt, who is a 'wounded soldier' as pertains to Christiandom?

Is it he who 'slips' and consciously acknowledges his deficiencies and strives towards perfection alá David of d bible?

( 2 Samuel 12:13 "And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die."........ Another modern day #Christian wounded soldier was bishop Francis wale oke. He didn't wait 4 d lady he had adultery with to confess. Voluntarily, he confessesd not only b4 his wife but d whole congregation.)

Or is d wonded soldier the one who, not only covers his deficiencies, but stubbornly continues in same, forming James bond?

As far as I'm concerned, d first is d real #wounded soldier while d latter is an imposter and shall receive their rewards in due season!

#True~reconciliation~comes~with~true~repentance!

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Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by bolinjkezzy(m): 11:11am On Apr 14, 2017
OkpekeBeauty:
The Boko Haram commanders were chatting and laughing as they were being arraigned before an Abuja court recently...
They been dey feel gangster ni.....
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by Basic123: 11:12am On Apr 14, 2017
donnie:


Yh they contributed to fulfilling God's plan, but the were nor guiltless.
which of the Gods plan,the killed God?

However,the point is that,the Christians should be happy that one of the Gods used him in fulfilling the good plan in their life.
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by profbabatunde: 11:37am On Apr 14, 2017
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Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by oluwasheun94(m): 11:43am On Apr 14, 2017
akanbiaa:
The truth is bitter and the truth is he was never crucified but it was made to appear so, and there is no lazy easy way to heaven by believing blood was shed, to make heaven you must not associate partners with God and you must be pure in heart, loving, forgiving and never love others lesser than self and love and worship the one true God with all your heart and might just like Jesus did and the Prophets before him and the Prophet aftet him.
please shut up o if u dont know what s say
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by Nobody: 11:46am On Apr 14, 2017
Please not only on the church, Christians, pastors, but on our fellow human beings.

When ever we sin , no matter the gravity; we flog and crucify Jesus the more.

That's the more reason for extra carefulness in running the race.
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by nurusystem(m): 12:01pm On Apr 14, 2017
[quote author=CrazyMan post=55208891]
Acts 11:26

26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. [b] And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

Quran 4: 157-158 157And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allâh," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)

158 But Allâh raised him ['Iesa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he >> is in the heavens). And Allâh is Ever All­Powerful, All­Wise.

Jesus is still alife
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by analice107: 12:14pm On Apr 14, 2017
Prince16:


I know quite well where u r going/coming from, and I think our paths has crossed on ds same issue.
For d avoidance of doubt, who is a 'wounded soldier' as pertains to Christiandom?

Is it he who 'slips' and consciously acknowledges his deficiencies and strives towards perfection alá David of d bible?

2 Samuel 12:13 "And David said unto Nathan, I have sinned against the LORD. And Nathan said unto David, The LORD also hath put away thy sin; thou shalt not die."........

Or is it he who, not only covers his deficiencies, but stubbornly continues in same?

As far as I'm concerned, d first is d real #wounded soldier while d latter is an imposter and shall receive their rewards in due season!

#True~reconciliation~comes~with~true~repentance!
You rightly said, 'as far as you are concerned, Well, your concerns are insignificant here. The servant of God didn't sin against you, he sinned against his Father and Master. His master is capable of dealing with him.

Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Romans:14:4


You stand here in judgement against him not knowing his disposition before his Master.

He maybe wrong, but are your actions right now right?

You stand justified to Cast stones, are you sinless in this matter?



Let's consider something for a while.

Do you remember Eli the Priest, and his Two sons? Hophni and Phinehas. The Bible says, they were sons of Beliel, yet Priests in the house of God.

They committed all manner of atrocities in the Temple of God. They desecrated the offerings and sacrifices the Israelites brought to God. They had sex with women right there in the house of God. God watched them do it but said nothing.

The Israelites knew and saw all that, BUT, DID THEY ON THEIR OWN PART STOOD UP TO ELI'S SONS? no, they didn't. did they slander them? no.

Every year the Israelites did their own part by bringing their sacrifices to Shiloh as recommended by their God, and left Hophni and Phinehas to their God.

At the appropriate time, God called them to account.

Listen, when you stand Justified in your own eyes, be careful.

If he is an impostor, you are not stronger than God to bring him down, you don't know better than God.

Slander is a sin, know that. And slander, whether against a godly person or a sinner is still slander and before God is a sin.

Keep yourself pure.

VENGEANCE IS OF THE LORD, HE WILL REPAY.
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by otemanuduno: 12:15pm On Apr 14, 2017
pls count me in. Just 2 carpenter nails will redo the trick cheesy

DOCTUFOS: Tabioth 61: 12-15

12. Now Omir said, it is surprising to me when I see even they who are below fifty years of age crying when I told them these. For they felt guilty of the death of Eliash when even it did not happen in their own generation. 13. And I laughed inside of me, saying, how are the homos so foolish? How can people be so low in their thoughts to weep for what they did not do? Or how are they so childish to feel guilty for what was done before they were born? 14. Then Esias said, it is their emotions they follow after and not deep thoughts. For in this shall beliefs thrive. And in emotions can a homo submit to what is written and make faith of it. 15. O Omir, go your way, because you have helped me to water the ground already. For Yeshua has sent me to tell the people about the coming of Josias, who shall be a great saviour of Jew, who shall win many kingdoms to Jew.
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by Vivipop(f): 12:23pm On Apr 14, 2017
So I clicked on the reply button here to find out if I would be coerced to denounce my faith and accept another just like they do in any Islamic thread.

Talk about tolerance...mtchewww

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Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by ziga: 12:24pm On Apr 14, 2017
And also,

If you are a christian and you relish the killing of muslims.

Or you support the persecution of any human being, just because they are not christians

Or you resent christians of a different denomination

Or you resent and judge people you do not know about

Or you relish and partake in bringing others down

Or you relish and partake in jungle justice (because some of the people that flogged Jesus didn't even know him or understand what he was being charged with)

You are just as guilty.

Love your neighbor (fellow human being) as you love yourself.
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by Prince16: 12:47pm On Apr 14, 2017
analice107:

You rightly said, 'as far as you are concerned, Well, your concerns are insignificant here. The servant of God didn't sin against you, he sinned against his Father and Master. His master is capable of dealing with him.

Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Romans:14:4


You stand here in judgement against him not knowing his disposition before his Master.

He maybe wrong, but are your actions right now right?

You stand justified to Cast stones, are you sinless in this matter?



Let's consider something for a while.

Do you remember Eli the Priest, and his Two sons? Hophni and Phinehas. The Bible says, they were sons of Beliel, yet Priests in the house of God.

They committed all manner of atrocities in the Temple of God. They desecrated the offerings and sacrifices the Israelites brought to God. They had sex with women right there in the house of God. God watched them do it but said nothing.

The Israelites knew and saw all that, BUT, DID THEY ON THEIR OWN PART STOOD UP TO ELI'S SONS? no, they didn't. did they slander them? no.

Every year the Israelites did their own part by bringing their sacrifices to Shiloh as recommended by their God, and left Hophni and Phinehas to their God.

At the appropriate time, God called them to account.

Listen, when you stand Justified in your own eyes, be careful.

If he is an impostor, you are not stronger than God to bring him down, you don't know better than God.

Slander is a sin, know that. And slander, whether against a godly person or a sinner is still slander and before God is a sin.

Keep yourself pure.

VENGEANCE IS OF THE LORD, HE WILL REPAY.


You are mixing things up!
We all know vengeance is of the Lord, no contest about that. The bone of contention is/was who is a "wounded Christian Soldier"?

In as much as he/she has not confessed to wrong doing nor found guilty of same, then you cannot categorically refer to d person as 'wounded'. Perhaps, d word uvare looking for is persecution .

If u are 'scolded' wrongly 4 what u did/didn't do, the bible refers to that as persecution, and Jesus himself told real Christians to expect that!

The term "Christian wounded soldie8r" is use in reference to he who profess d faith, and due to the lusts of d flesh/care of d world slips.

The 'Pastors' who have bn making front pages these past weeks, have they agreed to any wrong doing in d scandals? Have their reactions to d allegations shown dt the allegations are true? At d last count, both Apostle sulaiman and Pastor David Ibiyeome have sued the parties concerned for defamation if character/Libel.

And what does dt infer? Both of them are directly (or otherwise) telling whoever caresvto listen that ,hey, wecare innocent" , and if that be the casevthat they are truly innocent, then the embarrassment they incur in d process CANNOT be classified as 'wound' but persecution...but conversely, if either or both of them be found wamting /guiltyof the allegations, that's when wevcan refer to them as 'wounded' .

If you agree that they've 'slipped', [b]and they also concur[b],, then we can all say theyvare 'Christian wounded soldiers' , but as things stands, mba, not yet!


Kindly digest my post b4 responding as we might even be on d same Page;

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Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by LogoDWhiz(m): 12:47pm On Apr 14, 2017
May God open our eyes of understanding. Jesus is crucified once nd for all, there is nothing like we keep crucifying him or nailing him to the cross, his death at the cross is a one time atonement for they that beleive. God bless.
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by luvmijeje(f): 12:51pm On Apr 14, 2017
I was once among o but thank God for his grace, his love, his faithfulness and his mercy.
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by analice107: 1:32pm On Apr 14, 2017
ziga:
And also,

If you are a christian and you relish the killing of muslims.

Or you support the persecution of any human being, just because they are not christians

Or you resent christians of a different denomination

Or you resent and judge people you do not know about

Or you relish and partake in bringing others down

Or you relish and partake in jungle justice (because some of the people that flogged Jesus didn't even know him or understand what he was being charged with)

You are just as guilty.

Love your neighbor (fellow human being) as you love yourself.
1000likes
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by analice107: 1:53pm On Apr 14, 2017
LogoDWhiz:
May God open our eyes of understanding. Jesus is crucified once nd for all, there is nothing like we keep crucifying him or nailing him to the cross, his death at the cross is a one time atonement for they that beleive. God bless.

...If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Hebrews:6:6
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by An2elect2(f): 1:54pm On Apr 14, 2017
MiguelKingII:


may God bless your intelligence

permit me to copy your writeup its indeed a great one
It's not my intelligence. Its the wisdom of God, all to His glory!

Ya feel free to copy. God bless~

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Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by obinna58(m): 2:37pm On Apr 14, 2017
hprizon:

mad man talk
I can feel ur pain cheesy
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by Sammy07: 2:59pm On Apr 14, 2017
akanbiaa:
The truth is bitter and the truth is he was never crucified but it was made to appear so, and there is no lazy easy way to heaven by believing blood was shed, to make heaven you must not associate partners with God and you must be pure in heart, loving, forgiving and never love others lesser than self and love and worship the one true God with all your heart and might just like Jesus did and the Prophets before him and the Prophet aftet him.


@ bolded,,,, your evidence
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by Willzkid(m): 3:03pm On Apr 14, 2017
analice107:

You rightly said, 'as far as you are concerned, Well, your concerns are insignificant here. The servant of God didn't sin against you, he sinned against his Father and Master. His master is capable of dealing with him.

Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
Romans:14:4


You stand here in judgement against him not knowing his disposition before his Master.

He maybe wrong, but are your actions right now right?

You stand justified to Cast stones, are you sinless in this matter?



Let's consider something for a while.

Do you remember Eli the Priest, and his Two sons? Hophni and Phinehas. The Bible says, they were sons of Beliel, yet Priests in the house of God.

They committed all manner of atrocities in the Temple of God. They desecrated the offerings and sacrifices the Israelites brought to God. They had sex with women right there in the house of God. God watched them do it but said nothing.

The Israelites knew and saw all that, BUT, DID THEY ON THEIR OWN PART STOOD UP TO ELI'S SONS? no, they didn't. did they slander them? no.

Every year the Israelites did their own part by bringing their sacrifices to Shiloh as recommended by their God, and left Hophni and Phinehas to their God.

At the appropriate time, God called them to account.

Listen, when you stand Justified in your own eyes, be careful.

If he is an impostor, you are not stronger than God to bring him down, you don't know better than God.

Slander is a sin, know that. And slander, whether against a godly person or a sinner is still slander and before God is a sin.

Keep yourself pure.

VENGEANCE IS OF THE LORD, HE WILL REPAY.


I know your mind is made up on what you believe, but would you mind reading Romans 14 in context.
There Paul refers to recent converts from judaism and other religions who were weak in faith, people who still follow some non-essential belief system. I.e. honour certain days, forbid some food e.t.c. In our day those will be people like new Muslim converts who still forbid pork, or a Jew who still spots a large beard. Paul's admonition was not to criticize these people for still holding on to their beliefs as they were not salvafic (i.e relating to salvation). These were the people who Paul said were accountable before God.
To the point being made, the Bible is replete with instances of men of God being held accountable. Paul rebuked Peter, he called out Demas, advised Timothy to rebuke defaulting elders (with strong proof though).
Let's even go by the analogy of a wounded soldier. The place of wounded soldiers in battles is not in the frontlines, but in the infirmary where they can recover before getting back to battle. In the same light when Pastors stumble they should temporarily be allowed to go through recovery I.e. repentance and restoration. That way the army is not compromised or put in danger, and the integrity of the body of Christ is protected.
My dear sister (I assume you are female), do not think I am one to condemn men of God, that is left to God, but we cannot cheer on people when they are known to be in the wrong. We must hold the clergy to account when they do wrong but we must do it in love. Christ commended the Church of Ephesus for holding their clergy accountable (Rev 2:2). Sycomphancy hurts the body of Christ today as it makes men of God above board. And this is just as bad as being judgmental

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Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by Julivas(m): 3:04pm On Apr 14, 2017
Do we still as a Christian also engage in any activities or habits that do flog ir nail our Lord and personal Saviour Jesus Christ again?
God help us.
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by LogoDWhiz(m): 3:32pm On Apr 14, 2017
analice107:


...If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Hebrews:6:6
I think paul is trying to use metaphor, if we as christians who are meant to be christlike keep sinning, we embarass him, but that doesnt mean we are not saved or we crucify him again. Jhn 10:28 nd rom 8:38-39 helps us understand that once we are saved, we are saved. No double salvation. Lastly, Rom 11:29 helps us understand that God's gift nd calling are without repentance. We get the gift at the point of salvation. We should endeavour to come into the reality of our inheritance in christ.
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by davien(m): 3:48pm On Apr 14, 2017
So one might say Jesus got NAILED on wood.. cheesy
Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by geronimoedeh1(m): 5:22pm On Apr 14, 2017
Christians are flogged and nailed every day they woke up thinking and believing in the scam called Jesus...

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Re: Are You One Of Those That Flogged And Crucified Jesus Christ? by luwins(m): 6:07pm On Apr 14, 2017
I AM ONE

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