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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by YOUNGKAHUNA: 6:44am On Apr 21, 2017
Nigeriadondie:

Have u wver in ur life had rhe time to go out to preach like them cos i believe d JWs did not take ur time to preach
I don't know what you aim to achieve with this. But it's my time and I can do whatsoever I like with it
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by ssogundele(m): 6:45am On Apr 21, 2017
potent5:
Good news.
So this is good news to you? Has the adherents ever harm or done any vile/evil to you or the State? Though it's foretold that real Christ followers will be persecuted. Yeah I'm happy to be a JW

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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Codes151(m): 6:46am On Apr 21, 2017
rabzy:
Amebo, you no go even let judge talk finish before you come nairaland.
church matter dey sweet them na
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by GlobalGisting(m): 6:46am On Apr 21, 2017
The only organization with so much decency, peace, truth and tranquility are the witnesses. I wonder how anyone can tag them extremists. I mean they don't even make noise in their place of worship. I was looking for a house and I told the agent to find one far from a mosque or church, he came to me next day and said there is this one you will like, it's close to a Jehovah's Witness church but u won't have to bother about noise. been there two years now and I can testify they are damn organized. Russia has always been the Devils Seat of Caliphate.

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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Codes151(m): 6:46am On Apr 21, 2017
rabzy:
Amebo, you no go even let judge talk finish before you come nairaland.
church matter dey sweet them na! Nl had made it possible for any body to criticize the church matters
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by unitysheart(m): 6:47am On Apr 21, 2017
TinaAnita:
What a ludicrous and baseless verdict by a moronic judge. How can you describe those who doesn't compel people to convert to their religion as extremists? Does members of Jehovah witness pose a threat to lives and property? Do they look like Boko haram plus armed fulani herdsmen? Thunder fire that mumu judge!

NO mind the judge.
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Nobody: 6:49am On Apr 21, 2017
I won't take sides because am not in Russia. Maybe they have they have been convinced to take to extremist activities or some extremists have joined them and using Jehovah Witness as a shade to perpetuate their activities.
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by hardbody: 6:50am On Apr 21, 2017
Randy100:
In as much as they don't physically hurt people, they emotionally wreck people. They bring divison between families, they pressurised their members not to accept blood, thereby killing them, they don't vote and still want to get benefit from good governance. Do you still think that they are not extremist?

So they don't vote but pay taxes consciously and you want to deprive them of what tax payment brings? See your foolish wisdom. When was voting or not voting tied to provision of amenities in a state?

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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Nigeriadondie: 6:51am On Apr 21, 2017
chiedu7:
Good one they are heretics


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjlQcS6-M0o
Chiedu u re a critic of JW but ve u confirmed from other translations of 2 Samuel 21:19 to find out if what that guy is saying is the truth or is another way to slander JW?
Dont u think Devil is at work?
Check other translations and see if the New World Translation wrote anyrhing different. That video is not only baseless but senseless. If that guy was sensible enough he wud have at least two other translations different from the JW bible to make his comparative analysis

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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by ollah2: 6:52am On Apr 21, 2017
godunia:
They let the real extremist to continue while ban a peace loving organization. has anyone ever heard of Jehovah Witness wound or kill anyone? Like Jesus and his followers they do not carry arms. May your kingdom come quickly Oh Jehovah. This Russia, the wrath of Jehovah that will come against you will come in extreme measures from the 4 corners of the earth.

Lol. No be only wrath na war u go see
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by zinnywonders(f): 6:53am On Apr 21, 2017
cosade:


My view, based on interactions with JW members is that, they are only interested in selling their journals and books to the public not preaching. I could be wrong but that is my perception.

In one of my early encounters with JW members three decades ago, I suggested that we should start our discussion with prayer, but they declined and left for no reason at all. Since that time when they come to my house to preach, I would welcome them warmly and insist that we should start
with an opening prayer. They would rather leave than agree to pray with me.

I guess you're a member, what are the reasons JW members don't oblige to pray with others?
or
Is it that JW members don't pray at all?


Chai! U Sabi lie well well oooo. My Mum n 2 Sisters re witness and they pray consistently. Before the leave the kingdom hall from 9 am to 12 noon, they study d Bible, share testimonies of their encounter while preaching so that others will learn and pray before leaving.
When they're back by 12noon another prayer is offered, people going for return visit will stay back n those who ain't going leave. Return visit are for those who accepted any of their brochures and are willy to study them with their help. Before such studies commences, they always pray with their Bible scholar.

Pls learn to bridle ur tongue, especially when it comes to religion, u don't have any right 2 judge or criticize any doctrine. If u feel ur Doctrine is d best n d word Of God is being preached to ur understanding, pls remain n leave others alone. If I may ask, which denomination is truly worshipping God n is divinely approved by God? Before u answer think well cos no one is perfect, we're still struggling to work our ways towards perfection... God is the perfect Judge on that great day when He will sit on the Throne to judge u n I...... May God open ur eyes of understanding n may have an unforgettable encounter with him,in Jesus Name.. .. AMEN!!!

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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by unitysheart(m): 6:53am On Apr 21, 2017
cosade:


My view, based on interactions with JW members is that, they are only interested in selling their journals and books to the public not preaching. I could be wrong but that is my perception.

In one of my early encounters with JW members three decades ago, I suggested that we should start our discussion with prayer, but they declined and left for no reason at all. Since that time when they come to my house to preach, I would welcome them warmly and insist that we should start with an opening prayer. They would rather leave than agree to pray with me.

I guess you're a member, what are the reasons JW members don't oblige to pray with others?
or
Is it that JW members don't pray at all?

1. We don't sell journals. All the journals are free. Contributing for the journal is voluntary.
2. We pray and we pray with people we meet. The circumstances may only warrant not praying in every places. The only way to talk to God is by means of prayer. If we don't pray then who do we serve?

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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Lyord56(m): 6:53am On Apr 21, 2017
Successobed:
Ain't this crazy though? Muslims way dey form terrosim dey kill people up and down them no ban them na Jehovah's witnesses them see to ban

D End is near bro ....

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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by hardbody: 6:53am On Apr 21, 2017
GlobalGisting:
The only organization with so much decency, peace, truth and tranquility are the witnesses. I wonder how anyone can tag them extremists. I mean they don't even make noise in their place of worship. I was looking for a house and I told the agent to find one far from a mosque or church, he came to me next day and said there is this one you will like, it's close to a Jehovah's Witness church but u won't have to bother about noise. been there two years now and I can testify they are damn organized. Russia has always been the Devils Seat of Caliphate.

And i also realised that unlike the tag of being cultists, the doors to the place of their worship is always open and any interested person is welcome anytime they are there.

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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Nigeriadondie: 6:54am On Apr 21, 2017
GlobalGisting:
The only organization with so much decency, peace, truth and tranquility are the witnesses. I wonder how anyone can tag them extremists. I mean they don't even make noise in their place of worship. I was looking for a house and I told the agent to find one far from a mosque or church, he came to me next day and said there is this one you will like, it's close to a Jehovah's Witness church but u won't have to bother about noise. been there two years now and I can testify they are damn organized. Russia has always been the Devils Seat of Caliphate.
U re right. No noise and people dont know Russia at all.

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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by ollah2: 6:54am On Apr 21, 2017
GlobalGisting:
The only organization with so much decency, peace, truth and tranquility are the witnesses. I wonder how anyone can tag them extremists. I mean they don't even make noise in their place of worship. I was looking for a house and I told the agent to find one far from a mosque or church, he came to me next day and said there is this one you will like, it's close to a Jehovah's Witness church but u won't have to bother about noise. been there two years now and I can testify they are damn organized. Russia has always been the Devils Seat of Caliphate.


So banning witness now means they devil's seat of caliphate? Wow!+
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Nobody: 6:54am On Apr 21, 2017
Jehovah's Witness has never bombed anyone... Russia is moving backwards. They can ban people from resisting blood transfusion or compel people to sing their national anthem but outright ban is not it at all.

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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by unitysheart(m): 6:56am On Apr 21, 2017
giles14:
no they aren't.
but are Jehovah witness Christians cos dey don't believe in divinity of Jesus or the Trinity

Why should anyone believe in trinity. Is there anywhere in the Bible where God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are mentioned to be three in one? I don't understand why that should be contested. Jesus himself refused being called the good one. He directed that praise to his father in the heaven. Is there anywhere in the Bible also that the Holy Spirit is regarded as god or God?

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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by unitysheart(m): 6:58am On Apr 21, 2017
Randy100:
In as much as they don't physically hurt people, they emotionally wreck people. They bring divison between families, they pressurised their members not to accept blood, thereby killing them, they don't vote and still want to get benefit from good governance. Do you still think that they are not extremist?

Pressurize kwanu? Your assertions reeks ignorance. Try ask a JW on why he or she doesn't accept blood and you'll agree it is not a matter of being pressurized?

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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Nigeriadondie: 6:59am On Apr 21, 2017
YOUNGKAHUNA:
I don't know what you aim to achieve with this. But it's my time and I can do whatsoever I like with it

Nobody needs ur time if u cant offer. If u are not interested they leave u all at once. How that come disturb u
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by hardbody: 7:00am On Apr 21, 2017
onosprince:
Enough is enough, any jehovah witness way i go catch near my gate, i go use petrol take burn dem.

Spoken like the kid you are. Is there a need for a response? I don't think so.

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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by GlobalGisting(m): 7:02am On Apr 21, 2017
ollah2:



So banning witness now means they devil's seat of caliphate? Wow!+

well with all due respect to you, I'd ask you to read about Russia. America is not afraid of Russia for nothing. when u done studying Russia you will knw the devil operates directly from there.

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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by dingbang(m): 7:02am On Apr 21, 2017
Jw people are brainwashed.... They need to see d light
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by ollah2: 7:04am On Apr 21, 2017
GlobalGisting:


well with all due respect to you, I'd ask you to read about Russia. America is not afraid of Russia for nothing. when u done studying Russia you will knw the devil operates directly from there.

But God directly operates from other countries right? Is Russia afraid of USA ?
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by otswag(m): 7:04am On Apr 21, 2017
cosade:


My view, based on interactions with JW members is that, they are only interested in selling their journals and books to the public not preaching. I could be wrong but that is my perception.

In one of my early encounters with JW members three decades ago, I suggested that we should start our discussion with prayer, but they declined and left for no reason at all. Since that time when they come to my house to preach, I would welcome them warmly and insist that we should start with an opening prayer. They would rather leave than agree to pray with me.

I guess you're a member, what are the reasons JW members don't oblige to pray with others?
or
Is it that JW members don't pray at all?
Oga, this is a blatant lie. I am not JW but I studied with them all through my childhood. I don't regret doing that because it gave me a wider understanding of Christianity. There are some issues I still don't agree with however I just must admit that all these petty issues like what u just mentioned are big lies. People are looking for a reason to hate them so when stories like this are out, most will just accept it without trying to confirm its authenticity.

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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Nigeriadondie: 7:06am On Apr 21, 2017
introvertme:

Which extremist activity?

Instead of all this court matter wey no get head or tail
Just tell them.straight in their face that you don't want them to preach about God.

The only reason someone becomes agitated is if they're preaching "truth" and you're loosing your sheeps.
U re right. That is d handwork of the Orthodox church at work. They ve always seen the JWs as a threat. That is y they do same to JW in Eriteria

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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by mikeycharles(m): 7:07am On Apr 21, 2017
This is something else
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Nigeriadondie: 7:09am On Apr 21, 2017
nevilbot:


the maker of this video and whoever blivs him and shares it are just dumb. u just showed that u dont even read or know wat is in ur bible and went rushing to make a video thereby showing ur level of ignorance to people who actually study the bible. instead of rushing to make a stupid video thinking u av hit jackpot, U should av checked and compared other bible translations to ur so called Jw bible to see if that verse was made up by Jw as u claim. since u are so lazy to make a research, Let me help u with other bible translations

New World Translation (ur so called jw bible)
2Sa 21:19 And war broke out again with the Phi·lisʹtines at Gob, and El·haʹnan the son of Jaʹa·re-orʹe·gim the Bethʹle·hem·ite struck down Go·liʹath the Gitʹtite, whose spear had a shaft like the beam of loom workers

American Standard Version
2Sa 21:19 And there was again war with the Philistines at Gob; and Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim the Beth-lehemite slew Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam.

Christian Standard Bible (CSB)

2 sam 21:19 Once again there was a battle with the Philistines at Gob, and Elhanan son of Jaare-oregim the Bethlehemite killed[a] Goliath of Gath. The shaft of his spear was like a weaver’s beam.


Lexham English Bible (LEB)


2 sam 21 vs 19 There was again a battle with the Philistines at Gob. And Elhanan the son of Jaare-Oregim, the Bethlehemite, killed Goliath[a] the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like the beam of a weaver.



New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)

2 sam 21 vs 19 Then there was another battle with the Philistines at Gob; and Elhanan son of Jaare-oregim, the Bethlehemite, killed Goliath the Gittite, the shaft of whose spear was like a weaver’s beam.

Byington
2Sa 21:19 And there was the war at Gob with the Philistines again; and Elhanan the son of Jaʽir the Bethlehemite killed Goliath the Gathite; the shaft of his spear was like a weaver’s pole.

Are those translations that say the same thing as d new world translations also Jw bibles? If u had used ur sense of reasoning and read ur bible well before making that video to show ur stupidity, u would av known that d Goliath that David killed was not the same referred to in that verse. The Goliath David killed is recorded in 1 SAM 17 vs 4 and he is called Goliath from Gath and not the same as Goliath from gittite in 2 SAM 21 vs 19. They are two different Goliaths.

New World Translation (ur so called jw bible)
1Sa 17:4 Then a champion came out from the camps of the Phi·lisʹtines; his name was Go·liʹath, from Gath, and his height was six cubits and a span.

American Standard Version
1Sa 17:4 And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.

King James Version1Sa 17:4
And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.

Byington 1Sa 17:4
And a man came out between them from the Philistine line of battle, named Goliath, from Gath; he was nine and a half feet tall.

Can u tell me how different d other bible translations are diff from ur so called Jw bible from d examples? Do u know how many other giants were killed by Israelite men in d bible after David killed Goliath?

You just showed that u don't even read and understand ur bible and instead of u to listen to d witnesses who want to help u, u are dia spreading lies against them and infecting others with ur mental laziness
The person who shared the video is also dumb like d sharer of the link

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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by akanbiaa(m): 7:13am On Apr 21, 2017
bikerboy1:
grin I don't understand Russians at all. Are they forcing people to accept their doctrine?

You have the choice to move if you are not interested.
An average Russian values his privacy, you dont need to knock from door to door its repulsive to them so the option is they do media advert and invite interested people to go to their church and about pamphlet you can drop withouth knocking.

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Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Nigeriadondie: 7:15am On Apr 21, 2017
Snow5:
Russians are loosing it..

You can't ban God!!

They are just getting started.. Them never see anything.. Na now God won deal with Russian

Though am not a JW... But the way Russian are going.. It's bad!!
Look at what they did in Georgia, Ukraine and now Syria supporting a murderous regime
Re: Russia's Supreme Court Deems Jehovah Witnesses Extremist, Bans Organization by Nigeriadondie: 7:17am On Apr 21, 2017
ransomed:
Another Adolphus Hitler in Russia. JWs only hesitate blood transfusion during emergency and it is a matter of choice. They are peace loving people because they do not believe in war that Putin is fighting in Syria, exterminating innocent women and children. Annexatiion of Ukraine and causing tension in the region are some of the reasons Putin hates JWs. They do not engage in military enlistment i.e no killing nor bearing of arms. They do not force people to join them nor declare fatwas when provoked. Putin and Al assad are the extremists that disturb world peace just like ISIS, BOKO HARAM, AL QAEDA, AL SHABAB etc.
Dont mind people who dont know anything about Russia. The recent protest there shows the discontent among the populace there. The system is corrupt very corrupt favouring only a few.

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