₦airaland Forum

Nowenuse:
Ok.

So, what do all these Bades, Ngizims, Kanuris and other minority groups people who have been hausanized (i mean those people from these tribes). What do they identify as? Do they identify as Hausas ethnically or they still retain their original ethnic identity??

Is Kanuri language taught in schools in kanuri speaking areas?

Talking about urbanisation, yes i know that it is an all round Nigerian problem, but i don't think this issue affects South-South and South-east Nigerians as such.

Almost every state in the SE/SS has an influential, populated, rapidly developing and considerably rich capital city. Some states like Delta, Anambra, Abia even have up to 2-3 of such cities.
As for the South-west, Lagos is clearly their problem, but however, places like Ibadan are rapidly developing.

But if you look at the whole north, you will see that apart from Kano, Kaduna, Jos, Zaria and Ilorin, no other city can you really regard as well developing. Maiduguri is battling with boko haram which has really reduced it's potentials.
Look at states like Kebbi, Sokoto, Taraba, Zamfara, Jigawa, Yobe, Adamawa and others, no viable cities we can really say are rapidly developing and urbanizing.
Thank God for Abuja that has come to seriously urbanize states like Nasarawa and Niger.

There is a very big gap between the North and the South (if you understand what am talking about).

The states u aforementioned are oil producing states, they r oil companies which r mostly owned by d whites. Will u expect such a place not to develop? Besides, why did u exclude Bayelsa and Ebonyi states? Most of d places dat r developed r where oil firms r present. They r many places dat r not developed at all in does states u listed, even in ph despites, all d monies, a place like elche is a no go area. Apart from 2-3 places ph city inclusive, other places has notin to rite abt. Same goes to daz states like Kano, Zaria, ilorin etc in fact, Zaria Na village ful of mud houses. Kano city is d only place developed in Kano, d oda LGAs outside Kano city No beta pass nguru, Hadejia and gashua.



Lagos is d only place that I knw is uniformly developing and mayb Ogun, Ibadan.


Sure, d North x lagging behind d South in terms of everything apart from Quranic recitation and population

To be sincerely speaking, d SS/SE r not better despite dere high literacy rate and exposures. Many people frm dat part of d con3 r trooping into Lagos everyday. They r even claiming of developing Lagos in detriment ov dere own states dat nid it most.





A Kanuri man will Neva identify himself as a Hausa no matter what. I only know about Kanuri courses at unimaid, besides, I don't live in d north.


I tink, u can only make comparism wit place like Lagos cox of dere similitudes.

9jakool:
I think they are more focused on their Arabization policies. The funny thing is that most Sudanese are black, a lot are even darker than most East and West Africans. There are 110 languages spoken in Sudan, but Arabic and English are the official with Arabic being widely spoken. Ironically Sudanese Arabs in Middle Eastern countries like Israel face racism for being dark-skinned while non-Arabs in Sudan also face discrimination by Sudanese Arabs. I think more open minded Sudanese Arabs tend to acknowledge their diverse ancestry or history more. Africa was never the Arab homeland, Arabs were from the Arabian peninsular, so any Arab from Africa is either a product of Arabization and or mixed.

That is the other angle to the Northern Sudan V/S Southern Sudan war. The Southern tribes say the north belongs to them and the Arabs were just traders who took over their land. its a huge point of discontent even with forming the nation of South Sudan amongst the southern tribes. Some say the war should never stop and their goal is the North.

Isahalbash:
The states u aforementioned are oil producing states, they r oil companies which r mostly owned by d whites. Will u expect such a place not to develop? Besides, why did u exclude Bayelsa and Ebonyi states? Most of d places dat r developed r where oil firms r present. They r many places dat r not developed at all in does states u listed, even in ph despites, all d monies, a place like elche is a no go area. Apart from 2-3 places ph city inclusive, other places has notin to rite abt. Same goes to daz states like Kano, Zaria, ilorin etc in fact, Zaria Na village ful of mud houses. Kano city is d only place developed in Kano, d oda LGAs outside Kano city No beta pass nguru, Hadejia and gashua.



Lagos is d only place that I knw is uniformly developing and mayb Ogun, Ibadan.


Sure, d North x lagging behind d South in terms of everything apart from Quranic recitation and population

To be sincerely speaking, d SS/SE r not better despite dere high literacy rate and exposures. Many people frm dat part of d con3 r trooping into Lagos everyday. They r even claiming of developing Lagos in detriment ov dere own states dat nid it most.





A Kanuri man will Neva identify himself as a Hausa no matter what. I only know about Kanuri courses at unimaid, besides, I don't live in d north.


I tink, u can only make comparism wit place like Lagos cox of dere similitudes.

You may not be but you sound like a rretarded tribalist like your fellow Nigerians. Why are Nigerians so weak? Always talking about superiority while the poor masses suffer ?? Are you people cursed?

forgiveness:
I have always maintained that LéMac Tower is 26 floors but I pointed out that 3 out of the 26 floors are basement.

Even their website admitted it's so. So, what is this finally admit?

Please, go back few pages, you will see my posts on this. It is not hidden.

Look at this guy. Lol. Some people are really shameless.

9jakool:
That's a difficult question to answer. The boundaries like West Africa, Subsaharan, North Africa and all of that are irrelevant when we talk about the evolution of humans. I personally don't think modern populations in "West Africa" are directly descended from Ancient Egypt just because of the stark contrast in timelines, but their ancestors could have had contact with them. I believe "West Africans" or ancestors of modern "West Africans" lived further into North Africa (Northwest Africa) during the green Sahara era. There was nothing like Sub Saharan, because there was no Sahara then. The desert we see now used to be much greener with lush vegetation and vast savannas. There is a lot of evidence for this.

Have you heard of the black mummy of the green Sahara found in Uan Muhuggiag, Libya. The child mummy was the earliest mummy found in Africa and it predates Egyptian mummification cultures by 1,000 years. It's possible that this population influenced Egyptian mummification culture. Archaeologists suggest the mummy was black/negroid. Archaeologists have found that the area was populated by Pastoral black/Negroid herders who domesticated animals. The theory goes that the populations were pushed out by new comers/ farmers from the East. In a nutshell, "West Africa" is just a political term. "West Africans" at least back then lived in both "West Africa" and "North Africa" because there was no Sahara then. "North Africa" particularly "Northwest Africa" was just a continuation of "West Africa." So the Ancestors of today West Africans populated both regions, and some still do till today.

I explained more about this already.
Check out page 712: https://www.nairaland.com/3327789/kenya-ahead-nigeria-all-aspect/712#56626691
and Page 713: https://www.nairaland.com/3327789/kenya-ahead-nigeria-all-aspect/713#56629388


Also, this makes more sense with what I was saying to you here on page 782: https://www.nairaland.com/3327789/kenya-ahead-nigeria-all-aspect/783#56770880

You make this thread worthwhile

forgiveness:
Bhuuuhahaha! Where did you get the 23 buildings with 20 floors above completed from? Answer that question before I stop quoting you.

You need your brain checked. What kind of question is this? Where else do you expect me to get the buildings from? go back to my list and check where I got them from. Idiot.

NairobiWalker:
You need your brain checked. What kind of question is this? Where else do you expect me to get the buildings from? go back to my list and check where I got them from. Idiot.

E pain am.

Heck even addis ababa is better than the slum city.

Will choose ababa over tjat shit you call a city anytime, anyday.

The Ethiopian government wants to do two things at once. Ridding the capital city Addis Ababa of its slums, and providing housing for three million inhabitants of the capital.
The main slums in Addis must become the business center of the Ethiopian capital, but slum dwellers do not like the idea. The municipal had given them a month to clear out of their homes and they have complained that they had been forcefully removed.
For the authorities however, whose objective is to raise Ethiopia among the middle-income countries by 2025 – a gross national income (GNI) per capita above $ 1,000 – the revamp is also designed to create a middle class homeowners, less prone to anti-government protests.

http://www.africanews.com/2016/10/30/ethiopia-slums-in-the-city-center-slowly-disappearing//

Hati13:
They are Cushitic. Even the Semitic family language speakers(Amhara, Tigray, Gurage, Harar and others in Ethiopia) are more Cushitic than they are Semite(Yemenite, Armenia and others).

Amharas and Tigrays are mix of Agaw(mostly)/Semite/Afar/Argobba/Beja and others(other Cushitic, Omotic and Nilo Sharan family language speakers).

There ancestors Axumities were also predominantly Cushite(Agaw and Afar) than Semite.

Agaws and Afars were the original inhabitants of Eritrea, northern and central Ethiopia from the 3rd millennium BC.

There are Agaw people who hadn't fully lost their identity, but are on the brink to loss their culture. I hope one day Agaw Midire/region(Amhara and Tigray) will be re-established, because we are self denying Agaws and things needs to be changed.

Yeah I know Nilo Saharan. The Nilotes are Nilo Saharan. Yeah East Africa was Cushitic and Nilotic long ango. The Bantu later came and assimilated some of them,

9jakool:
I think they are more focused on their Arabization policies. The funny thing is that most Sudanese are black, a lot are even darker than most East and West Africans. There are 110 languages spoken in Sudan, but Arabic and English are the official with Arabic being widely spoken. Ironically Sudanese Arabs in Middle Eastern countries like Israel face racism for being dark-skinned while non-Arabs in Sudan also face discrimination by Sudanese Arabs. I think more open minded Sudanese Arabs tend to acknowledge their diverse ancestry or history more. Africa was never the Arab homeland, Arabs were from the Arabian peninsular, so any Arab from Africa is either a product of Arabization and or mixed.

South Sudanese are very dark, its their characteristic. And they can be very tall. n the case of some Sudanese tribes, males can have an average height of 1.9 m (6 ft, 4in) (!), while women of 1.8 m (6 ft) (!). These people have slim but strong bodies, and their heads are more elongated than in the case of the typical African Blacks. Not all are tall though but averagely they are very tall. The most famous group and more racially preserved of the Sudanese race are the Nilotic tribes (they all originated on the Upper Nile area). The most famous are Maasai(Kenya), Turkana(Kenya), Samburu(Kenya) and Dinka(South Sudan), whose main occupation is animal husbandry. Ancient (and modern) Nubians, the Black Pharaohs, were also of Sudanese race. When the French met this race of giants (in Chad tribes), they called them "the beautiful race".

TayserMahiri:
Why were those French insecure? Did they fear Africa that much?
Umekuwa wapi mzee wa kazi

The French imperial ambitions also meant erasing African achievement and advancement. There was a very open statement to defeat anything African at that point in time by them, i can't find the exact statement. Remember, they were smarting from a defeat handed to them by African born slaves during the Haitian revolution. Study the history of this period to understand how the French think and the reasons why they're the biggest neo colonialists in Africa.

Muafrika2:
That is the other angle to the Northern Sudan V/S Southern Sudan war. The Southern tribes say the north belongs to them and the Arabs were just traders who took over their land. its a huge point of discontent even with forming the nation of South Sudan amongst the southern tribes. Some say the war should never stop and their goal is the North.

South Sudan! A very difficult and disappointing bunch! Instead of focusing on how to develop, and having a 50 year advantage of learning from the mistakes of other countries in Africa , they choose stupid tribal war as the opening song to their story. They are just epically disappointing!

MtuMsuper:
South Sudan! A very difficult and disappointing bunch! Instead of focusing on how to develop, and having a 50 year advantage of learning from the mistakes of other countries in Africa , they choose stupid tribal war as the opening song to their story. They are just epically disappointing!

True. Sometimes its good to take a break from war and build yourselves up. Let the conquerors have their day and wait out your turn. That's how the world works. Every dog has its day, and its good to continue living whether as the ruler or the ruled.

There is something Nilotic about disdain towards authority and rebellion Especially if the authority is not a blood/tribal relation

There it is guys

Lionessza,

Where did you guys run off to

PissedYagami:
There it is guys

Looks a bit dangerously long

Yeah so we are officially the rooftop of Africa

Muafrika2:
Looks a bit dangerously long

We love the height

freshest4live:
American also from their statistics have continually noted Nigerians are the most educated foreigners in the U.S. That again is another huge reputation, it means we even do better than black Americans in their land.
Nigerians are also experts in so many cyber security technologies abroad.
Except for Germany(to an extent) in Europe, U.K, U.S, Canada has so many outstanding record breaking Nigerian students. This is not to say other Africans or nationalities do not surpass Nigeria sometimes, but rather to make it clear that our bad name and good names come side by side.
Now in the U.S, our bad name is centered on internet scam or 419, but let's face it, why do these white men keep falling for these scams? Scams from Africans whom they refer to as people with lower lQ's, so how then do the yahoo boys outsmart them? The scammers know many of these whites are not only greedy but also not really smart, this of course doesn't excuse their criminal activities and how it soils our name Abroad in the long run.

You are right on point with your first paragraph but this Kenyans thinks 140 million Nigerians are bad.


I think they fell prey due to greed.

PissedYagami:
Yeah I know Nilo Saharan. The Nilotes are Nilo Saharan. Yeah East Africa was Cushitic and Nilotic long ango. The Bantu later came and assimilated some of them,

There are also Semites and Omotic, but few in numbers. The Nilo-Sharan family language speakers in Ethiopia now are only found on Ethio-Sudan boarder.

What was the cause for Bantus expansion to Eastern and Southern Africa?

Muafrika2:
Lionessza,

Where did you guys run off to

Lol we are still here ? Just observing.

forgiveness:
Dis guy just dey yap me anyha.


First of all, I will educate you on how to read and interpret emporis.

From the snapshots below, the colors indicates the present states of the highrises and skyscrapers completed, underconstruction, proposed, unbuilt and demolished. A color is placed beside a highrise or skyscraper to indicate its current status.

If it is blue, it's a proposed project. Meaning it's doesn't exist neither is it underconstruction.

Purple means it's underconstruction. Meaning not yet completed or topped out.

Green means it exists or completed.

Yellow means unbuilt or abandoned.

Red means demolished or no longer exist.

Are you learning? Good boy.

Now that you have learned something, we will now get to how to count based on what you want.

We are only counting skyscrapers completed.

Now, you said Nairobi has 15 skyscrapers completed, ba, because you don't know the rules or you want to go your normal way of being mischievous.

From the snapshot below, there are so many purple and blue placed beside the buildings to indicate their current status and remember I told you I still double checked from other sources such as Wikipedia and skyscrapercity before I made my conclusions. As a result of that I discovered Teleposta Tower was missing from the list and I included it on the list to show how truthful I carried out my research but you want to be mischievous.

Out of the 15 skyscrapers, 2 indicates yellow (abandoned), 5 indicates blue (planned), 5 indicates purple (under construction), 3 indicates green (Completed).

However, out of the 5 that indicates purple, 2 indicated the year of completion. Meaning, they are topped out but construction is still going on in the buildings.

I didn't stop at that, I still verified the ones that indicates the purple and the blue ones from different sources. And I discovered that some of the blue ones are underconstruction.

Since, we based our argument on completed skyscrapers, I did my arithmetic by adding the 3 completed ones with the 2 that indicates the year of completion and it gave me 5 skyscrapers. Then how did I arrive at 6 skyscrapers completed for Nairobi if I made it my alpha and omega source?

No, I didn't, I still checked other sources and I discovered Teleposta Tower was missing. I added it to the 5 to make it 6 skyscrapers completed..

You see ya life.

Emporis somehow is current with the constructions going on in Kenya that is why you see the year of completion dated 2016. Though not perfect but credible.

2&3 pictures indicates the list of all the 15 skyscrapers and their status.


The same way I carried out my research for Lagos. Emporis indicated 6 skyscrapers for Lagos, 5 completed and 1 proposed which is the Stratosphere (218m).

Are you for real? do you agree nigeria has the tallest building in Africa?

I didn't count it but after my research, I discovered the ministry of Communication Building was missing and the two skyscrapers completed this year were also missing. The Black Pearl Tower 24 and the Eko Tower 2(I even posted the video and pics). I added the three to the 5 and it gave me 8 skyscrapers completed. comprehend!?

As it stands, Lagos has more skyscrapers completed than the whole of Kenya.

Next.....


The same rules were applied for the highest numbers of highrise in these cities.

If you apply the same rules, you will only get 76 out of the 81 highrises because some are either proposed or unbuilt.

Like I said earlier, it seems emporis has up to date information on buildings in Kenya till 2016 because I saw all your projects on their list save one.

Afterall, I still requested to add to the list but you lied you can't count the numbers of 12-storey towers in Nairobi. Chikena! That concluded it.

On the other hand, Emporis listed 72 highrises for Lagos but after I went through their list, I counted 68 highrises and after thorough search, then I came up with 126 highrises. I didn't just come up with the numbers, I listed them here for all to see.

Emporis somehow is not current with the constructions going on in Nigeria.


Bhuuuhahaha! You can change the fact on ground with this ya mago mago way of life.

I belive you are the most pathetic and dishonest person to reason with.. You reduce the number of high rise in Nairobi from 108 complete to 72 and increase for lagos from 72 to 126...

Hati13:
There are also Semites and Omotic, but few in numbers. The Nilo-Sharan family language speakers in Ethiopia now are only found on Ethio-Sudan boarder.

What was the cause for Bantus expansion to Eastern and Southern Africa?

They just moved. If Bantu was an ethnicity it would be the biggest in Africa, somewhere from Southern Kenya to South Africa. Bantu country.

Hati13:
There are also Semites and Omotic, but few in numbers. The Nilo-Sharan family language speakers in Ethiopia now are only found on Ethio-Sudan boarder.

What was the cause for Bantus expansion to Eastern and Southern Africa?

Yeah semites are there, I am just wondering how come there are no Omotics in northern Kenya

9jakool:
That's a difficult question to answer. The boundaries like West Africa, Subsaharan, North Africa and all of that are irrelevant when we talk about the evolution of humans. I personally don't think modern populations in "West Africa" are directly descended from Ancient Egypt just because of the stark contrast in timelines, but their ancestors could have had contact with them. I believe "West Africans" or ancestors of modern "West Africans" lived further into North Africa (Northwest Africa) during the green Sahara era. There was nothing like Sub Saharan, because there was no Sahara then. The desert we see now used to be much greener with lush vegetation and vast savannas. There is a lot of evidence for this.

Have you heard of the black mummy of the green Sahara found in Uan Muhuggiag, Libya. The child mummy was the earliest mummy found in Africa and it predates Egyptian mummification cultures by 1,000 years. It's possible that this population influenced Egyptian mummification culture. Archaeologists suggest the mummy was black/negroid. Archaeologists have found that the area was populated by Pastoral black/Negroid herders who domesticated animals. The theory goes that the populations were pushed out by new comers/ farmers from the East. In a nutshell, "West Africa" is just a political term. "West Africans" at least back then lived in both "West Africa" and "North Africa" because there was no Sahara then. "North Africa" particularly "Northwest Africa" was just a continuation of "West Africa." So the Ancestors of today West Africans populated both regions, and some still do till today.

I explained more about this already.
Check out page 712: https://www.nairaland.com/3327789/kenya-ahead-nigeria-all-aspect/712#56626691
and Page 713: https://www.nairaland.com/3327789/kenya-ahead-nigeria-all-aspect/713#56629388


Also, this makes more sense with what I was saying to you here on page 782: https://www.nairaland.com/3327789/kenya-ahead-nigeria-all-aspect/783#56770880

Thanks wenedem!

Isahalbash:
I could recalled as a muslim one of d prophet most loyal companion " Bilal Ibn Raba Hamamah" mother was a princess from Abyssinia ( modern Ethiopia).

Oh, I didn't know about it. But during prophet days, there was no Abyssinia, rather Axum. Abyssinian empire started after 1270 A.D.

TayserMahiri:
I know. My point was that Ethiopian army hates being drawn into an endless war. I was not hinting at human rights. Somalia is the best example. Ethiopian army goes in there and buldozzes the terrorists back in a whoosh and within no time they are out. I actually like it. Our army gets bogged down by strategies and pacification processes before they proceed to the next zone. That was my point; Wenedem!

Now I understand you wenedem.

What is brother means in Swahili?

PissedYagami:
They just moved. If Bantu was an ethnicity it would be the biggest in Africa, somewhere from Southern Kenya to South Africa. Bantu country.

But, Bantu isn't ethnic group, am I correct?

PissedYagami:
Yeah semites are there, I am just wondering how come there are no Omotics in northern Kenya

Yeah, I also wonder. But, Omotic family speaking people are only found in Ethiopia(Awash and Omo lower valleys).

PissedYagami:
Yeah so we are officially the rooftop of Africa

But, it's Ethiopia which is the rooftop of Africa.

Hati13:
But, it's Ethiopia which is the rooftop of Africa.

Nah we got taller towers here. And building many more skyscrapers

Hati13:
But, Bantu isn't ethnic group, am I correct?

Negro is the ethnic group.