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Sapiosexuality:
I didn't say 'No, it can't be done' but that must wake up mentally before it can be done. I'm only telling you the efficacy of such mental asylum. It's simple psychology. Motivational speeches don't work here.

You don't make ridges without putting in seeds and expect a fruit to grow. You don't drop rice on a dry land and expect to export rice. You don't build a house without a foundation. That's simple reality. We must build the mental foundation of Nigerians first before we begin to afford such lofty thoughts.

Those ''lofty'' thoughts are already happening before our eyes, with or without 'mental foundation'. You're just too consumed by negativity to see it. One example. Are you aware of the number of car manufacturers that have set up/or are setting up factories in Nigeria right now as we speak? Honda, Kia, General Motors, Toyota. Plus some new indigenous manufacturers a la Innoson. Read this:


''The Nigerian Government through the National Automotive Design and Development Council has awarded licences for the establishment of 12 new vehicle assembly plants in the country.

This is contained in a document made available by the spokesman of NADDC, Bello Rasheed, in Abuja on Monday.
The document stated that the benefitting companies are automobile manufacturing giants such as Toyota, Honda, General Appliances West Africa, Perfection Motors Company, and Richbon Nigeria.

The others are R.T. Briscoe Nigeria, Nigeria-China Manufacturing Company, Nigeria Sino Trucks, Coacharis Motors, DAG Motorcycle Industry Nigeria, Globe Motors Nigeria, Century Auto-Assembly Nigeria, and Concept Auto Centre.

The plants are expected to produce a wide range of automobile products such as sport utility vehicles, passenger cars, pickup vans, buses, tricycles and motorcycles, among others.

The document also indicates that the companies, with their corporate offices in Enugu and Lagos, have started making arrangements to begin operations.''


http://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/187744-nigeria-grants-12-new-auto-assembly-plant-licences.html

Essentially, Nigeria is well on the way to challenging South Africa as the major car manufacturer in Africa, producing in due course millions of vehicles per year, for the local and international market. That is industrialisation right there. Thousands of jobs in high end end manufacturing. Many ancillary industries will be established to serve those manufacturing plants, with components, equipment, services etc... No need for any philosophical or ethical revolution in the country. It's happening now, live. They are building those car plants now, across Nigeria. It's not a ''dream''. It is happening now. These are the sort of things that a group like PriceWaterHouse Coopers looks at, and are able to project where Nigeria will be in 20, 30 years time, based on what is happening today. It's not dreaming. It's based on reality backed by billions of dollars in contracts that have been, and are being signed, as we speak.

Another example. The national railway network. I've seen the masterplan. It's a wonderful, ambitious project, costing over $25 billion. It's a network that will connect all nooks and crannies of this country, by high speed rail. They've started the projects. It is Public/Private Partnership arrangements, meaning it WILL get done, and it WILL come with adequate maintenance, staffing and upgrades locked into the contracts. We've seen it happening LIVE.

The Abuja-Kaduna rail network is a world class development. it is only a small part in the overall masterplan. But we can see it is working well, and is a great concept whose replication around the country will transform the nation. By the year 2050, the entire national rail system would be on line....an ultra-modern high speed rail system befitting the Giant of Africa. You will be able to travel from anywhere to anywhere in Nigeria on high speed rail.

So it's happening before our eyes. Did Boko Haram stop them from building the Abuja-Kaduna high speed rail network? Did corruption make them embezzle everything and ditch the project? No? So it can be done, and it is being done.

Rossikki:
Those ''lofty'' thoughts are already happening before our eyes, with or without 'mental foundation'. You're just too consumed by negativity to see it. One example. Are you aware of the number of car manufacturers that have set up/or are setting up factories in Nigeria right now as we speak? Honda, Kia, General Motors, Toyota. Plus some new indigenous manufacturers a la Innoson. Read this:


''The Nigerian Government through the National Automotive Design and Development Council has awarded licences for the establishment of 12 new vehicle assembly plants in the country.

This is contained in a document made available by the spokesman of NADDC, Bello Rasheed, in Abuja on Monday.
The document stated that the benefitting companies are automobile manufacturing giants such as Toyota, Honda, General Appliances West Africa, Perfection Motors Company, and Richbon Nigeria.

The others are R.T. Briscoe Nigeria, Nigeria-China Manufacturing Company, Nigeria Sino Trucks, Coacharis Motors, DAG Motorcycle Industry Nigeria, Globe Motors Nigeria, Century Auto-Assembly Nigeria, and Concept Auto Centre.

The plants are expected to produce a wide range of automobile products such as sport utility vehicles, passenger cars, pickup vans, buses, tricycles and motorcycles, among others.

The document also indicates that the companies, with their corporate offices in Enugu and Lagos, have started making arrangements to begin operations.''


http://www.premiumtimesng.com/business/187744-nigeria-grants-12-new-auto-assembly-plant-licences.html

Essentially, Nigeria is well on the way to challenging South Africa as the major car manufacturer in Africa, producing in due course millions of vehicles per year, for the local and international market. That is industrialisation right there. Thousands of jobs in high end end manufacturing. Many ancillary industries will be established to serve those manufacturing plants, with components, equipment, services etc... No need for any philosophical or ethical revolution in the country. It's happening now, live. They are building those car plants now, across Nigeria. It's not a ''dream''. It is happening now. These are the sort of things that a group like PriceWaterHouse Coopers looks at, and are able to project where Nigeria will be in 20, 30 years time, based on what is happening today. It's not dreaming. It's based on reality backed by billions of dollars in contracts that have been, and are being signed, as we speak.

Another example. The national railway network. I've seen the masterplan. It's a wonderful, ambitious project, costing over $25 billion. It's a network that will connect all nooks and crannies of this country, by high speed rail. They've started the projects. It is Public/Private Partnership arrangements, meaning it WILL get done, and it WILL come with adequate maintenance, staffing and upgrades locked into the contracts. We've seen it happening LIVE.

The Abuja-Kaduna rail network is a world class development. it is only a small part in the overall masterplan. But we can see it is working well, and is a great concept whose replication around the country will transform the nation. By the year 2050, the entire national rail system would be on line....an ultra-modern high speed rail system befitting the Giant of Africa. You will be able to travel from anywhere to anywhere in Nigeria on high speed rail.

So it's happening before our eyes. Did Boko Haram stop them from building the Abuja-Kaduna high speed rail network? Did corruption make them embezzle everything and ditch the project? No? So it can be done, and it is being done.

You don't seem to want to get it. You are not looking at it from a rational or logical position. You'd pick few information about a certain development and create mansions from them. You are also guilty of the same problems our leaders are guilty of. I want you to reply these next post logically and rationally.

No one can conquer you until they've savaged your mind. No physical pain can defeat you until you've been destroyed mentally. This is Psychology 101. In same vein, nobody can be saved until their minds are salvaged. No physical project can uplift unless it uplifts the mind.

Nigerians are behind mental bars. They are behind mental asylums and irrespective of what you do, if the goal is not about removing those bars you are wasting your time. You can't make a broken people great. You also can't build a country on lies. You can build rail ways and other modern systems but Phaoroanic Mindset must be taught.

You think countries like UAE, Qatar, and Kuwait will be termed great because of their fine structures? You think wrong. As long as they kelp depending on Westerners to develop structures like the Burj Khalifa, going abroad for studies, worshipping western sports and news, unlike China, they'd never be great countries but fine countries.

Respond to this logically.

aribisala0:
highly influential is a nebulous and meaningless term.We were talking of attracting investment. There is no correlation between that an population China has been the most populous followed by India for decades and both were among the poorest nations on earth and still host many of the world's poorest. Add Nigeria Pakistan and Indonesia to that mix and you have the collection of the most wretched on the planet with forgotten diseases like leprosy and polio still prevalent. The idea that copulation and procreation is a pathway out of poverty is one of the most absurd I have ever heard

Sorry to say but that guy might be an hausa/fulani. People who believe having over 20 children makes you a man.
SMH!!!

Rossikki:
But Nigeria has experienced an average 6% annual GDP growth in the last ten years, overcome military rule, including the previously intractable phenomenon of rigged elections, and expanded the middle class, despite the ''superstitious minds, religious and ethnic bigotry'' etc etc.

In fact it is likely that as economic growth continues apace, a lot of those social problems will start to decline. Nothing like a growing economy to keep people happy.

In India today, there are entire states where you will be killed by superstitious mobs just for eating beef. Yet today, India is rapidly overcoming poverty, and becoming a major economic and industrial superpower.

China today is actually a brutal dictatorship where the rights of the individual are very limited, and there is no free press or free speech.. Yet they are the world's second biggest superpower.

Look at Brazil. Corruption is the order of the day there, plus gross inequality, yet, they are still moving forward.

SO PLEASE SPARE ME ALL THESE EXCUSES. NIGERIA WILL MAKE IT, EVEN WITH HER PROBLEMS. Just contribute your own quota and pray for the nation, that's all.

hehehe... I swear, I like your faith. I've since lost my faith in Nigeria. I really hope you are right.

Funny how you mention technologically advanced China and India that isn't doing too badly, in the same breath with Nigeria whose citizens would rather build a church or a mosque than a factory. It's not the same. Our population would be useless or even a burden if we cannot channel our vast human resources. With the current crop of leaders and citizens, it doesn't look like it's happening any time soon.

Rossikki:
Nigeria by 2050 will be the the world's 3rd most populous nation on earth, after China and India.


https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2013/jun/13/nigeria-larger-population-us-2050



Egypt of the Pharoahs

900 BC was the tail end of the mighty Egyptian empire, which had lasted for thousands of years, and had been Africa's Number 1 nation, exporting knowledge and technology across the earth.

The great empire of Mali, between the 10th and 16th centuries AD, tried hard to replicate the Egyptian miracle in the heart of West Africa, but eventually fell short due to lack of resources.

NOW COMES NIGERIA.

''We project new emerging economies like Mexico and Indonesia to be larger than the UK and France by 2030
(in PPP terms) while Turkey could become larger than Italy. Nigeria and Vietnam could be the fast growing
large economies over the period to 2050.'' PriceWaterHouseCoopers

https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/issues/the-economy/assets/world-in-2050-february-2015.pdf


''Indonesia, Mexico and Nigeria could push UK and France out of top 10 Economies''

http://www.pwc.com/jp/en/japan-press-room/press-release/2015/world-in-2050-150227.html


Nigeria, the emerging African Colossus, set to have a larger population than the USA in a couple of decades. With a projected GDP by 2050 of $7.3 TRILLION, the nation is a growing magnet for high end indigenous and foreign investment, and is projected to be among the world's top 10 economies by 2050.

NIGERIA appears set to lead a powerful African resurgence onto the world scene, and make Africa Great Again.

Figments of someone's imagination.


Power as far as Nigeria is concerned is buying arms and ammunition and train its soldiers in a peculiar way to kill Nigerian citizens tired of asking for restructuring the polity, were refused, they then take to militancy and secessionist moves.


Who said Nigeria of today shall exist by 2050?

Sapiosexuality:
You don't seem to want to get it. You are not looking at it from a rational or logical position. You'd pick few information about a certain development and create mansions from them. You are also guilty of the same problems our leaders are guilty of. I want you to reply these next post logically and rationally.

No one can conquer you until they've savaged your mind. No physical pain can defeat you until you've been destroyed mentally. This is Psychology 101. In same vein, nobody can be saved until their minds are salvaged. No physical project can uplift unless it uplifts the mind.

Nigerians are behind mental bars. They are behind mental asylums and irrespective of what you do, if the goal is not about removing those bars you are wasting your time. You can't make a broken people great. You also can't build a country on lies. You can build rail ways and other modern systems but Phaoroanic Mindset must be taught.

You think countries like UAE, Qatar, and Kuwait will be termed great because of their fine structures? You think wrong. As long as they kelp depending on Westerners to develop structures like the Burj Khalifa, going abroad for studies, worshipping western sports and news, unlike China, they'd never be great countries but fine countries.

Respond to this logically.

This is a very profound post.

gocac:
sometimes I just wonder....if some of my fellow citizens get brains or na just coconut head.
you are in a serious recession and your still battling with the sad effects, yet your deceiving yourselves of being a power house in Africa. this is self deceit.

Did Britain borrow money to build the first rail roads in Nigeria? Even if Britain did, did it not build rails to include east, west, north and south of Nigeria?

But Buhari govt is borrowing money to build rail lines for SW and north with a section of SS, mainly for siphoning oil proceeds from SS, and taken to the SW for onward transmission to Abuja in the north. It excluded SE and NE.

The loan shall be repaid by South, East, West and North of Nigeria. But the SE and NE and huge parts of SS shall also be included in repaying the loan for rails for NW and SW.

Worse, his govt schemes that similar rail road for SE shall whenever possible in future be conceded to a private company who shall build it and charge cut-throat prices from users in the SE to NE.


What a most wicked govt ever in the History of mankind.

How does any sane human being deduce that Nigeria shall exist ten years from now, talk less become a giant in the face of all these?


Jonathan from the SS built the first ever standard rail gauge costing $1.059 billion in the north. Yet Buhari clan has the audacity to do these evil things.

Sapiosexuality:
You don't seem to want to get it. You are not looking at it from a rational or logical position. You'd pick few information about a certain development and create mansions from them. You are also guilty of the same problems our leaders are guilty of. I want you to reply these next post logically and rationally.

No one can conquer you until they've savaged your mind. No physical pain can defeat you until you've been destroyed mentally. This is Psychology 101. In same vein, nobody can be saved until their minds are salvaged. No physical project can uplift unless it uplifts the mind.

Nigerians are behind mental bars. They are behind mental asylums and irrespective of what you do, if the goal is not about removing those bars you are wasting your time. You can't make a broken people great. You also can't build a country on lies. You can build rail ways and other modern systems but Phaoroanic Mindset must be taught.

You think countries like UAE, Qatar, and Kuwait will be termed great because of their fine structures? You think wrong. As long as they kelp depending on Westerners to develop structures like the Burj Khalifa, going abroad for studies, worshipping western sports and news, unlike China, they'd never be great countries but fine countries.

Respond to this logically.

I think you are putting the cart before the horse. You have this idea that a people or a nation must FIRST develop a new consciousness, BEFORE they can hope to become a great nation. I disagree. It is not possible for that to happen. In fact it's the other way round. The nation must FIRST develop economically to a substantial level of industrialisation and self-sufficiency, BEFORE you can start to change the masses' orientation. The real "dreamer" is the one who thinks Nigerians can "change their ways" in the current conditions. "Their ways" are a direct and logical response to the climate they find themselves under. Asking them to 'change' while the climate remains intact, is asking them to go against their own internal logic and rationality. It won't happen.

Economic growth FIRST. Then people can afford to read, research, study and explore the finer aspects of life such as morality, ethics, faith etc.

That was the way the western world developed. They were barbarians. But they conquered agriculture, such that only a small proportion of the population needed to engage in farming, to sustain whole communities, and ultimately, nations, allowing the rest of the population to develop other professions, from the sciences to the arts, and philosophy. They were lucky though, because European soil is the most cultivable and fertile on earth. African soil is the worst on earth for cultivation. Which is why we've always had food issues, and needed whole communities to engage in farming. So a society needs to first create the agricultural/economic surplus, freeing up the population to pursue aspects of life that have little to do with physical survival, like food, shelter worries. Once freed from those basic wants, the human mind then opens up to other realms of reality, thought, and existence. Creativity becomes the norm. Philosophies sprout. Minds open up to new ways of seeing things. But it all starts with ramping up the Economy. As Bill Clinton famously said, "It's the Economy, stupid."

Rossikki:
I think you are putting the cart before the horse. You have this idea that a people or a nation must FIRST develop a new consciousness, BEFORE they can hope to become a great nation. I disagree. It is not possible for that to happen. In fact it's the other way round. The nation must FIRST develop economically to a substantial level of industrialisation and self-sufficiency, BEFORE you can start to change the masses' orientation. The real "dreamer" is the one who thinks Nigerians can "change their ways" in the current conditions. Economic growth FIRST. Then people can afford to read, research, study and explore the finer aspects of life such as morality, ethics, faith etc.

That was the way the western world developed. They were barbarians. But they conquered agriculture, such that only a small proportion of the population needed to engage in farming, to sustain whole communities, and ultimately, nations, allowing the rest of the population to develop other professions, from the sciences to the arts, and philosophy. They were lucky though, because European soil is the most cultivable and fertile on earth. African soil is the worst on earth for cultivation. Which is why we've always had food issues, and needed whole communities to engage in farming. So a society needs to first create the agricultural/economic surplus, freeing up the population to pursue aspects of life that have little to do with physical survival, like food, shelter worries. Once freed from those basic wants, the human mind then opens up to other realms to reality, thought, and existence. Creativity becomes the norm. Philosophies sprout. Minds open to new ways of seeing things. But it all starts with ramping up the Economy. As Bill Clinton famously said, "It's the Economy, stupid."

Cocaine is a hell of a drug...

Rossikki:
I think you are putting the cart before the horse. You have this idea that a people or a nation must FIRST develop a new consciousness, BEFORE they can hope to become a great nation. I disagree. It is not possible for that to happen. In fact it's the other way round. The nation must FIRST develop economically to a substantial level of industrialisation and self-sufficiency, BEFORE you can start to change the masses' orientation. The real "dreamer" is the one who thinks Nigerians can "change their ways" in the current conditions. Economic growth FIRST. Then people can afford to read, research, study and explore the finer aspects of life such as morality, ethics, faith etc.

That was the way the western world developed. They were barbarians. But they conquered agriculture, such that only a small proportion of the population needed to engage in farming, to sustain whole communities, and ultimately, nations, allowing the rest of the population to develop other professions, from the sciences to the arts, and philosophy. They were lucky though, because European soil is the most cultivable and fertile on earth. African soil is the worst on earth for cultivation. Which is why we've always had food issues, and needed whole communities to engage in farming. So a society needs to first create the agricultural/economic surplus, freeing up the population to pursue aspects of life that have little to do with physical survival, like food, shelter worries. Once freed from those basic wants, the human mind then opens up to other realms to reality, thought, and existence. Creativity becomes the norm. Philosophies sprout. Minds open to new ways of seeing things. But it all starts with ramping up the Economy. As Bill Clinton famously said, "It's the Economy, stupid."

Great post. Thumb up.

GEJPosterity:
Cocaine is a hell of a drug...

Look it up.

Rossikki:
I think you are putting the cart before the horse. You have this idea that a people or a nation must FIRST develop a new consciousness, BEFORE they can hope to become a great nation. I disagree. It is not possible for that to happen. In fact it's the other way round. The nation must FIRST develop economically to a substantial level of industrialisation and self-sufficiency, BEFORE you can start to change the masses' orientation. The real "dreamer" is the one who thinks Nigerians can "change their ways" in the current conditions. Economic growth FIRST. Then people can afford to read, research, study and explore the finer aspects of life such as morality, ethics, faith etc.

That was the way the western world developed. They were barbarians. But they conquered agriculture, such that only a small proportion of the population needed to engage in farming, to sustain whole communities, and ultimately, nations, allowing the rest of the population to develop other professions, from the sciences to the arts, and philosophy. They were lucky though, because European soil is the most cultivable and fertile on earth. African soil is the worst on earth for cultivation. Which is why we've always had food issues, and needed whole communities to engage in farming. So a society needs to first create the agricultural/economic surplus, freeing up the population to pursue aspects of life that have little to do with physical survival, like food, shelter worries. Once freed from those basic wants, the human mind then opens up to other realms to reality, thought, and existence. Creativity becomes the norm. Philosophies sprout. Minds open to new ways of seeing things. But it all starts with ramping up the Economy. As Bill Clinton famously said, "It's the Economy, stupid."

Little does Sapiosexuality know that he has been talking to a sock puppet.

The amount of horse manure contained in this comment is hard to quantify. See how this thing directly contradicted itself saying "Economy comes before awakening", then in the very next paragraph says "Europeans conquered agriculture, allowing the rest of the population to develop other professions". So which came first? Did the Europeans first develop a consciousness about the need to conquer agriculture and free themselves to do other things, or did the agricultural know-how just fall from the sky?

See this Rossikk handle in my observation is actually a hardcore white racist who spends time here faithfully trolling. His message is too one-track and uniformly stupid to be genuinely his opinion. For someone who can do as much research and construct as many sophistic polemics as he can, these posts are too dumb to be his true thoughts.

This guy is trolling.

GEJPosterity:
Little does Sapiosexuality know that he has been talking to a sock puppet.

The amount of horse manure contained in this comment is hard to quantify. See how this thing directly contradicted itself saying "Economy comes before awakening", then in the very next paragraph says "Europeans conquered agriculture, allowing the rest of the population to develop other professions". So which came first? Did the Europeans first develop a consciousness about the need to conquer agriculture and free themselves to do other things, or did the agricultural know-how just fall from the sky?

See this Rossikk handle in my observation is actually a hardcore white racist who spends time here faithfully trolling. His message is too one-track and uniformly stupid to be genuinely his opinion. For someone who can do as much research and construct as many sophistic polemics as he can, these posts are too dumb to be his true thoughts.

This guy is trolling.

I'll address the main part of your post and ignore the bizarre drivel.

Europeans may have "developed a consciousness about the need to conquer agriculture", but so did every other population on earth, including Africans. But success in this was determined by the quality of the soil. Climate issues also affected the ability to domesticate animals. In Africa these were adverse, and in Europe, the conditions were ideal. The colonialists were shocked that most of the crops they brought from Europe couldn't be grown in Africa. They had assumed, like many still do today, that African soil was highly fertile.

Rossikki:
I'll address the main part of your post and ignore the bizarre drivel.

Europeans may have "developed a consciousness about the need to conquer agriculture", but so did every other population on earth, including Africans. But success in this was determined by the quality of the soil. Climate issues also affected the ability to domesticate animals. In Africa these were adverse, and in Europe, the conditions were ideal.

You've just confirmed my theory.

You are trolling.

GEJPosterity:
You've just confirmed my theory.

You are trolling.

Dude, kindly disappear from this place, as it's clear you've nothing to contribute.

Is it by force to post?

Obvious troll is obvious.

He is trolling.

Don't feed the troll.

Rossikki:
I think you are putting the cart before the horse. You have this idea that a people or a nation must FIRST develop a new consciousness, BEFORE they can hope to become a great nation. I disagree. It is not possible for that to happen. In fact it's the other way round. The nation must FIRST develop economically to a substantial level of industrialisation and self-sufficiency, BEFORE you can start to change the masses' orientation. The real "dreamer" is the one who thinks Nigerians can "change their ways" in the current conditions. "Their ways" are a direct and logical response to the climate they find themselves under. Asking them to 'change' while the climate remains intact, is asking them to go against their own internal logic and rationality. It won't happen.

Economic growth FIRST. Then people can afford to read, research, study and explore the finer aspects of life such as morality, ethics, faith etc.

That was the way the western world developed. They were barbarians. But they conquered agriculture, such that only a small proportion of the population needed to engage in farming, to sustain whole communities, and ultimately, nations, allowing the rest of the population to develop other professions, from the sciences to the arts, and philosophy. They were lucky though, because European soil is the most cultivable and fertile on earth. African soil is the worst on earth for cultivation. Which is why we've always had food issues, and needed whole communities to engage in farming. So a society needs to first create the agricultural/economic surplus, freeing up the population to pursue aspects of life that have little to do with physical survival, like food, shelter worries. Once freed from those basic wants, the human mind then opens up to other realms of reality, thought, and existence. Creativity becomes the norm. Philosophies sprout. Minds open up to new ways of seeing things. But it all starts with ramping up the Economy. As Bill Clinton famously said, "It's the Economy, stupid."

Can you back up your assertion about African soil and European soil .Do you have any data or reference. I think it is an absurd claim. The problem with agriculture in Africa is knowledge,finance and technology not soil. Do you know the comparative size of Africa to Europe?
With the current knowledge /technology level almost any soil can be farmed successfully. The most important variable is water which Africa is blessed with in abundance