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Re: Igbos And Nigerians by Ngozi123(f): 10:44am On Jun 11, 2017
dealslip:
Initiate your quest and politely ask for a referendum. Eat which whose cake, IPOB get any cake to offer. Show seriousness by first moving. Nigeria will show seriousness too.
Various pro-secession groups, not just IPOB, have petitioned the government for a referendum for years yet they've been ignored or worse, harassed. You should know by know that your country isn't really a democracy so it doesn't respond well to peaceful petitions. Nigeria only understands violence and anyone who disputes this is in denial.
Re: Igbos And Nigerians by Konquest: 12:56pm On Jun 11, 2017
Akiintom:
Copied from Babatunde Jose, Esq.

IGBOS AND NIGERIANS: In their confusion, infusion and frustration arising from pride and over estimation of themselves leading them to a series of saboteur maniac syndromes.

Igbos broadly divided other Nigerians into three broad categories. Those they hate, those they deride and those they fear. Those they hate are the yorubas whom they call traitors, tribalists and cowards. Yet no race in Nigeria have been more tribal than the lbos.

There are historical facts to prove this. If something is ten and igbos are not allowed to take 15, so that the rest of us can share minus 5, lgbos will cry marginalisation and label the rest us tribalists. However there is no race in this country that have been more accommodating of the lgbos than the Yorubas, there is no single igbo leader that did not grow up in the South West or is a beneficiary of Yoruba largesse.

Zik went to CMS GRAMMAR SCHOOL, Adolphus wabara went to AHMADIYA COLLEGE AGEGE, Ken Nnamani went to LOYOLA COLLEGE IBADAN, Ojukwu and Ekwueme went to KINGS COLLEGE, Okpara went to YABA TECH while Phillip Emegwali went to AQUINAS COLLEGE, AKURE. Even my brother Anadu went to IMADE COLLEGE OWO etc All major Igbo politicians cut their political teeth in the West. Their major religious leaders cannot thrive outside the West. Pastor Muoka, Pastor Ezekiel of Four Square and Okonkwo of TREM are examples.

I remember that after the civil WAR, Igbos who came back to ILE IFE were allowed TUITION FREE while the YORUBAS in NSUKKA were rusticated. Example is Pastor Adeboye. Yet lgbos reserve their greatest hatred for the Yorubas for reasons being that the yorubas refused to be dominated by the lbos to confront the North.

As to the label of cowardice, had there been any war between the yorubas and the lbos in which the lbos defeated the Yorubas? In the whole ancestral history of Ndigbo, which war has the forefathers or great forefathers fought? Any empire in their history? Yet the yorubas have worsted the lgbos four times in the political history of Nigeria.

As to the label of treachery, had there been any agreement the yorubas signed with the lbos and they reneged? The answer is no. Yet the yorubas have records of Igbo treachery on the two occasions they formed alliance with them. In 1964 to fight the federal election, the yorubas formed an Alliance called UPGA with the Ibos to be led by Okpara because major Yoruba leaders were in jail. There was an agreement that the election must be boycotted. The Igbos sabotaged it, went and contested election while the West kept to the agreement.

In 1979 the West went into alliance with the lbos and formed PPA - PROGRESSIVE PEOPLE ALLIANCE. Again Igbo sabotaged it so that they can produce Speaker house of Representatives. Who then is traitor? The second category are the Eastern minorities made up of present Rivers, Akwa lbom, Cross Rivers and Bayelsa. The igbos see them as subhuman with tidal brain. Until the creation of Rivers State by Gowon, no OGONI man can sleep on the hospital bed in Bori GENERAL HOSPITAL . As at 1977 only UYO ,PHC and CALABAR had electricity light. They were so underdeveloped by their Igbo overseers that you will think that you were in the Congo jungle.

Until Diette Spiff, there was no Ikwere named Street in Port Harcourt. To show how deep the derision is, the present Biafran agitatators changed the name of RIBISI (Phc) to IGWOCHA as if the IKWERES do not exist.

The third category are the Hausa Fulani. The igbos pretend to hate the Fulanis but the truth is that the Igbo man is subservient to them. Ignore the noise. There are historical facts to justify this. Zik served under BALEWA, EKWUEME served under SHAGARI and EKEREMANDU zoned the PDP presidency to the North because he wants to be the VICE PRESIDENT to a Northerner.

After the civil war and OJUKWU was granted amnesty for his rebellion against constituted authority, he returned to Nigeria and he joined the Hausa fulani party (NPN) of those he accused of genocide against his Igbo people. It is Igbo tragedy that they hate and deride those who grow and sustain them while they cringe to those(the hausas) who kick them like balls. Igbos are the only race in nigeria that celebrate failure.

In 1982, the igbos celebrated the defeat of biafra by welcoming ojukwu with fanfare on his return from asylum haven been granted amnesty by the igbo overlords- the hausa fulani. He revelled in the fanfare and promptly married FFK left over- forgotten the over 3million lgbos that died in the war and with many of them languishing at OJI RIVER CAMP.

The second celebration is the release of kanu with the most humiliating bail conditions ever granted an accused in the annals of Nigerian justice system. A bail conditions targeted at the entire Igbo race and granted by an Hausa Fulani judge.

I could not believe that with all the noise, such bail conditions will be signed. But he signed and in his eagerness to leave kuje he abandoned his two conspirators in kuje. The bail conditions wiped out the Identity of the ibos and EKEREMANDU was made the enforcer of the conditions. FFK is a polemist like Femi ARIBISALA etc. They have the capacity to argue both sides of the same point.

The igbos regard him as their hero just like Ayo fayose the Eze gburugburu the second. I hope very soon the by Igbo will not start blaming fayose as they blamed Awo for everything that went wrong with their prosecution of the biafran war. I rest.
#Akin writing
from PH.
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OK... grin
Interesting and insightful article.
Re: Igbos And Nigerians by dealslip(f): 12:59pm On Jun 11, 2017
Ngozi123:
Various pro-secession groups, not just IPOB, have petitioned the government for a referendum for years yet they've been ignored or worse, harassed. You should know by know that your country isn't really a democracy so it doesn't respond well to peaceful petitions. Nigeria only understands violence and anyone who disputes this is in denial.
List their names and the documents or links to this petitions
Re: Igbos And Nigerians by Ngozi123(f): 2:08pm On Jun 11, 2017
dealslip:
List their names and the documents or links to this petitions
Or... you could do a quick search on Google for it. Why would I do your work for you?
Re: Igbos And Nigerians by dealslip(f): 2:11pm On Jun 11, 2017
Ngozi123:
Or... you could do a quick search on Google for it. Why would I do your work for you?
My Workhuh? You were the one talking about some imaginary petitions and some previous referendum attempts. You should be the one to dig it out.
Re: Igbos And Nigerians by KevinDein: 2:27pm On Jun 11, 2017
dealslip:
My Workhuh? You were the one talking about some imaginary petitions and some previous referendum attempts. You should be the one to dig it out.
Aren't you just a smartie wink
You've got an amazing ability to see these guys' lies from a kilometer away grin
I, just like you, am curious to see the documents and links of all the imaginary referendum cheesy
Re: Igbos And Nigerians by deomelo: 2:57pm On Jun 11, 2017
kingzizzy:
I will never understand people like the ignoramus that started this thread.

If you think Igbos are bad, why do you want to do 'one Nigeria' with themhuhhuh??

The same Igbos have been trying to go their way since 1967, you Nigerian came and fought a war to be with Igbos!

If you think Igbos are bad, support them to get Biafra so they can leave you alone.

Haba!
Stop deceiving yourself, you want one Nigeria because if not, you should have left every corner of Nigeria and moved back to your biafra and all your leaders should also have resigned from the Nigerian government and go back to biafra and declare your biafra.

You hate the North and Hausa people so much, but in the face of threats and death, you still won't leave the North so what's your problem then?


Obviously, you want to remain in Nigeria because you want one Nigeria so bad.
Re: Igbos And Nigerians by Ngozi123(f): 10:38pm On Jun 11, 2017
dealslip:
My Workhuh? You were the one talking about some imaginary petitions and some previous referendum attempts. You should be the one to dig it out.
And you were the one suggesting that IPOB and other pro-secession groups hadn't petitioned for a referendum. Had you done a quick Internet search into the matter then you'd know that you were completely wrong. You should do the research as it was your mistake.
Re: Igbos And Nigerians by Decodedp: 10:55pm On Jun 11, 2017
kingzizzy:
You should go and study more about Nigeria's history. In 1967, Igbos returned home in their millions to face Biafra. It was you Nigerians that came to the East to fight for 3 years to bring Igbos back into Nigeria. Now, you are asking Igbos to repeat what did not work last time?

Since you Nigerians fought to hold on to Igbos, it is now incumbent on you people to show you now mean business. Join the call for the creation of Biafra. After Biafra is finalised, then you can ask Igbos to go.


You cant ask Igbos to go while there is still 'one Nigeria', thats like asking a person to go home while you hold on to the keys of the persons house.

Did you see anybody ask The Scots to go back to Scotland when they had their 2014 referendum?

But make no mistake about it, I and my fellow Igbos will one day exit this zoological Republic of Lord Lugard.
. You're so so on point.
Re: Igbos And Nigerians by Decodedp: 11:08pm On Jun 11, 2017
Akiintom:
Dear my fellow Biafrans.
I support your struggle 100% but my problem is your approach.
I would want to suggest the following procedures and i can assure u its going to work out successfully. if you can unite and follow the following 10 steps then i can tell you, welcome to the Republic of Biafra in advance.

«««STEP 1»»»
withdraw all your services from Nigeria and render the Nigerians as you are the backbone of the country.

«««STEP 2»»»
Withdraw your kinsmen who are public office holders e.g Ike Ekweremadu, deputy senate president, Peter Obi the D.G of S.E.C

«««STEP 3»»»
Reject all the ministerial nomination from the so called Nigeria.

«««STEP 4»»»
Endeavour to reject Federal Allocation.
You are very industrious people you will be better off without it

«««STEP 5»»»
Stop all form of importation through the Nigerian sea port so that Nigeria will crumble without your Tax

«««STEP 6»»»
Recall all your sons and daughters from all parts of Nigeria to relocate to home untill this fight is over then Nigeria can beg them to come back as expatriate.

«««STEP 7»»»
Lock up all ur shops in idumota, Alaba international, Kano main market, and every other market even in the remote villages accross the country.

«««STEP 8»»»
Go beyond closing of the Niger bridge stop all Nigerians from buying or selling in Onitsha Main market or Ariaria market in Aba.

«««STEP 9»»»
Make sure u make ur Visa very hard for Nigerians.

«««STEP 10»»»
This fight can be achieved without Violence just like south Sudan. Finally, make sure you don't fight it with weapons.

Igbo kwenu!!! hee!

»»I am Cossy Diva Orjiakor««
and i just want To Make Common Sense.
Decodedp:
. You're so so on point.
Re: Igbos And Nigerians by dealslip(f): 8:06am On Jun 12, 2017
Ngozi123:
And you were the one suggesting that IPOB and other pro-secession groups hadn't petitioned for a referendum. Had you done a quick Internet search into the matter then you'd know that you were completely wrong. You should do the research as it was your mistake.
Stop pretending to be clever because you are not. Give us this links to your previous attempts and you have been speaking English since yesterday. You have nothing just lies and empty boasting as usual.
Re: Igbos And Nigerians by Ngozi123(f): 10:41am On Jun 12, 2017
dealslip:
Stop pretending to be clever because you are not. Give us this links to your previous attempts and you have been speaking English since yesterday. You have nothing just lies and empty boasting as usual.
In my experience, I've noticed that it's best to teach someone how to acquire information rather than spoon feed it to them. If you had spent half the time you've spent arguing with me conducting a quick Internet search on the matter, you would've have seen what you wanted to see by now. The fact that you haven't suggests to me that you're fond of making lazy arguments without any research.

Btw, if what I was saying were "just lies and empty boasting", then why would I be so insistent that you do a quick Internet search on the matter? If I were lying then wouldn't your (lack of) findings just augment your argument rather than invalidate it? huh
Re: Igbos And Nigerians by kingzizzy: 10:52am On Jun 12, 2017
dealslip:
Initiate your quest and politely ask for a referendum. Eat which whose cake, IPOB get any cake to offer. Show seriousness by first moving. Nigeria will show seriousness too.
This was done in 1967. All Igbos moved. Nigeria came to the East to fight for 3 years to bring Igbos back into Nigeria. Nobody is repeating that again. Now, Nigeria must agree to Biafra so that next time we move, you Nigerians will not come to the East to fight again like you people did last time.
Re: Igbos And Nigerians by Akiintom(op): 12:00pm On Jun 12, 2017
kingzizzy:
This was done in 1967. All Igbos moved. Nigeria came to the East to fight for 3 years to bring Igbos back into Nigeria. Nobody is repeating that again. Now, Nigeria must agree to Biafra so that next time we move, you Nigerians will not come to the East to fight again like you people did last time.
Go check the history of that war. Nigerian government wasn't disposed to all out war against biafra at the outset.
Because biafrans were still considered fellow Nigerians.

Ojukwu mistook this disposition for weakness on the part of Nigeria. Ojukwu then took a foolish and greedy advantage of this. Proceeded on his campaign to Lagos.

At this point, Nigerian government, had no choice than to descend on biafra the way she did. The rest is now history.

If it ever become possible that biafra confine themselves to SE states, and refrain from claiming anything beyond onitsha Bridge, nobody will give a damn.
Re: Igbos And Nigerians by kingzizzy: 12:20pm On Jun 12, 2017
Akiintom:
Go check the history of that war. Nigerian government wasn't disposed to all out war against biafra at the outset.

Ojukwu mistook this disposition for weakness on the part of Nigeria. Ojukwu then took a foolish and greedy advantage of this. Proceeded on his campaign to Lagos.

At this point, Nigerian government, had no choice than to descend on biafra the way she did. The rest is now history.

If it ever become possible that biafra confine themselves to SE states, and refrain from claiming anything beyond onitsha Bridge, nobody will give a damn.
Like most Nigerians, you dont know Nigerian history. If knew Nigerian history, you would have known that the war was already on long before Ojukwu headed for Lagos. The Nigerian Army had already invaded Ogoja and Nsukka parts of Biafra. Infact, the war began when the Nigerian Army invaded Ogoja on 6th July 1967. Ojukwu did not start even the invasion of the midwest until about a month later.

Also, it should be noted that this was the Nigerian/Biafran war. Ojukwu was entitled to invade anywhere inside Nigeria including Lagos.

The SE you are talking about is not even recognised by the constitution if Nigeria and can cannot be used as template. If you talk about Igbos and Igboland, yoy will find that Ignos are indigenous to the lower benue, Delta state and Rivers state. States do not make ethnic groups. Igalas are native to Kogi and Anambra samd as Idomas are native to Benue and Enugu state.
Re: Igbos And Nigerians by dealslip(f): 12:58pm On Jun 12, 2017
Ngozi123:
In my experience, I've noticed that it's best to teach someone how to acquire information rather than spoon feed it to them. If you had spent half the time you've spent arguing with me conducting a quick Internet search on the matter, you would've have seen what you wanted to see by now. The fact that you haven't suggests to me that you're fond of making lazy arguments without any research.

Btw, if what I was saying were "just lies and empty boasting", then why would I be so insistent that you do a quick Internet search on the matter? If I were lying then wouldn't your (lack of) findings just augment your argument rather than invalidate it? huh
and why do you think, I will waste my time on a wild goose chase. There is nothing out there to search for. This is a confirmation that you are a liar, why didn't you save your own time by posting the links, you see why nobody believes you guys, you are full of emptiness.
Re: Igbos And Nigerians by Ngozi123(f): 2:22pm On Jun 12, 2017
dealslip:
and why do you think, I will waste my time on a wild goose chase. There is nothing out there to search for. This is a confirmation that you are a liar, why didn't you save your own time by posting the links, you see why nobody believes you guys, you are full of emptiness.
Because I don't like to spoon feed information to people; I know exactly what you will find if you did some research on the matter as I've done it myself. I'd hoped that you would do a quick Internet search and read a little bit about the topic and then end up reading about it in much more detail thereby educating yourself on the whole independence movement. That's how people become enlightened.
Re: Igbos And Nigerians by dealslip(f): 4:14pm On Jun 12, 2017
Ngozi123:
Because I don't like to spoon feed information to people; I know exactly what you will find if you did some research on the matter as I've done it myself. I'd hoped that you would do a quick Internet search and read a little bit about the topic and then end up reading about it in much more detail thereby educating yourself on the whole independence movement. That's how people become enlightened.
wos wobi Ngozi123, you are a liar. There is nothing out there, shame on you. lying liar.
Re: Igbos And Nigerians by Ngozi123(f): 4:39pm On Jun 12, 2017
dealslip:
wos wobi Ngozi123, you are a liar. There is nothing out there, shame on you. lying liar.
Search "Igbo Referendum" on Google and you will see links to statements from MASSOB, LNC and IPOB about a referendum. You will even see where Buhari dismisses any talk of a referendum. I'm not going to spoon feed you information as you're not a baby.
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