Dear genieluv

I think my previous song post may be wrong. It may be this. Check it and tell me they aren't the same.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhQCfqDuiEY

genieluv:


Yorubas had a newspaper by 1859? Before the British arrived? Which language was the newspaper written in? Or did you mean to say 1959?

Yes they did in 1859. It was based in Abeokuta. It's the first newspaper in Nigeria.

hola chkil0

am surprised to meet u here

ru here for the same reason i am here wink wink

dont answer,

its our secret

nemesis2u:
hola chkil0

am surprised to meet u here

ru here for the same reason i am here wink wink

dont answer,

its our secret

yes this thread is very actif you will learn a lot about nigeria and other african countries

chkil0:


yes this thread is very actif you will learn a lot about nigeria and other african countries

yeah

and nothing to say of the bonus content

genieluv:


Pls be realistic, Maduawuchukwu n i were saying nothing buh the truth.
Benin kingdom sending ambassadors to spain, did that make bini more civilized than the hausa-fulanis? How many Binis knew the way outside Africa apart from the so called ambassador who was navigated on ship by the white men from the coast?

**** For God's sake, hausa-fulanis n Kanuris were riding on horses n Camels across the Sahara to the middle-east. They knew how to navigate their paths all the way to Saudi arabia from Nigeria, they went for pilgrimages. They engaged in transaharan trade with the Arabs, Persians n others. They had schools where their populace learned how to read n write, till date, there are scrolls of hundreds of years written by the hausas in records. They had an effective tax system. Almost half of present day Nigeria n northern Cameroon was under their administration.
There is no basis of comparison here. Other Nigerian groups were still killing themselves for sacrifice to the gods n passing information through folktales. Lol

Stop saying Hausa-Fulanis. First Hausas didn't conquer parts of Northern Nigeria and Cameroon, the Fulanis did just like they conquered the Hausas in Nigeria at the time. In Northern Cameroon, there is no Hausa-Fulani in reality. Hausas were not united until the Fulani conquered them. Before then, they were a collection of states.

The Fulani also had the same Jihad throughout the rest of West Africa in Maasina, Fouta Djallon and Fouta Toro. The Hausas adopted the more conservative form of Islam adopted by the Hausas.

I know of a Mandika from Mali named Mansa Musa who traveled to Mecca on a caravan. I wan't you to name prominent Hausas who did so on caravans, not that I don't believe you, I just want to know. Only thevery rich or prominent could afford to go on hajj back then.

Also, I don't know what you are using as criteria for civilization. Must the Benins have a caravan to be considered "civilized" enough. They built the largest earthwork on the face of this planet, one of the largest walls in the world and the largest in Africa. They had a system of government/administration, they had a taxation system, they traded. What else must they have to be civilized enough?

TayserMahiri:


I miss him though. Did you follow his court proceedings? Guy was funny and very coccky sometimes. I hope he didnt run away to India

Parts of it,

The proceedings turned him from villain to celebrity
Then he topped it by getting sick!! Smart man

Isahalbash:


He has fire to light d darkness

Hopefully,

TayserMahiri:
This American guy thinks Kenya is the Future of Africa. He has some very harsh words for Nigeria and South Africa

He says Nigeria is so damn corrupt that they cant get out their own way and South Africa is not Africa


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNjxdxPcSTg

His opinion ofcourse, those are common like assholes everyone has them .

9jakool:

Yes they did in 1859. It was based in Abeokuta. It's the first newspaper in Nigeria.

Thanks,many do not know that the impact of the trans atlantic trade between Europe and west africa had far greater effects tham the trans sahara trade.The way history is regarded in our educational system these days is a great injustice.Many do not know their country's history enough.Imagine.

chkil0:


i live in Oran , north west of Algeria

Wow ! This is beautiful, finally some real competition for SA

Isahalbash:




Of course, just the way you did cos I learnt it from you. Instead of you to answer d simple question, you're referring me to one of ur sites whom r also programmed like you or you don't know " birds of a feather flock together?" Besides, r u nt d one who resorted to abuse

ODEMESUE KARKAMAYA

genieluv:


Kk. I have read about him.
He is apparently one of or the most succesful Kenyan business men, isn't he?

It's like he controls the country. In Kenya any good or services u consume, chances are the producing company either is owned by Kirubi, or he has some shares in that company. His business interests are varied and so widespread.

Media houses, textile and apparrel firms, hair and beauty products, food and beverages, pens, model agencies, hotels and resorts, real estate, shopping stores.....what a guy!

freshest4live:
As a South African, I like Nigerians. In the late nineties, I spent 18 months backpacking by public transport from Cape Town to London and spent a fun time in Nigeria - especially Kano. The Nigerians I met were super friendly. I remember enjoying beers in the bars with friendly Muslims watching world cup soccer warm ups on TV - this was before the Boko Haram extremist era. I'll never forget the fun we had on the back of the crazy motorbike taxis. I still wear my Hausa grass hat I bought in the Kano market - it's indestructible! My impression of Nigerians then was that everyone was a businessman. I also remember being surprised when a soldier at a roadblock quoted Plato to me and who told me how money was deducted from his salary monthly to fund the struggle against Apartheid.

I remember being told a story while there that a 17 year old had scammed a state governor out of $1million which I thought was quite an achievement. The Nigerian English was cool: "I wanna chop one plate!"

In South Africa unfortunately many Nigerians have a bad reputation for being drug dealers and scammers. But I retain my fond memories of Nigeria.
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Tommy Dennis
Tommy Dennis, South African
Answered Aug 6, 2015
There is a wide range of views about Nigerians. The most visible but I would not say dominant, is that they are criminals who steal, sell drugs, run prostitution rings, basically the general spiel about a enterprising immigrant group. Not dominant I say because there is also an increasingly vocal group of South Africans who have married Nigerians and South Africans who just generally don't care. Personally I'm quite fond of Nigerians as they are quite similar to South Africans and most South Africans, I believe know this but won't admit it. Half of us seem to be addicted to Nigerian television anyway. Besides Nigerians are just a fun people and I haven't met a Nigerian who is short of confidence. There is tension though especially in economically depressed areas because of a competition for opportunities but in more affluent areas Nigerians are a visible and very successful group.

On a state level there is a rivalry that wasn't there until quite recently. Former Presidents Mbeki and Obasanjo were big friends who had a shared idea about an African Renaissance but since they've both shuffled off into the political hinterland nothing has come of it. Rumours have it that President Zuma and former President Jonathan personally disliked each other and that informed much of the low level distrust between the two nations. Considering that South Africa has pulled further within the Chinese bloc and Nigeria has seemingly moved towards closer relations with the West particularly the US, I can only foresee more friction between the two as they both jockey for influence on the continent. Unless President Buhari follows his own plan which is a possibility however until that happens most media coverage of Nigeria in SA will continue to be quite hostile.
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Kris Subban
Kris Subban
Answered Jun 5, 2015
I wanna chop your dollar..I definitely enjoyed my stay in Nigeria. The people were super friendly and I felt much safer than being in SA. Even in the dodgiest of places, I was treated with respect and concern about my comfort.
Ate the tastiest grilled salmon under a bridge eatery somewhere in Abuja using my cellphone flashlight for lighting. Enjoyed drinking ice cold beer on hot summer nights in the parks and mingling with the locals with the sound of a portable generator going off in the background somewhere.
Everyone's an entrepreneur and no one expects a handout. Used to wear my Allahji outfit to work every Friday to show respect to local culture.
The country and it's people have huge potential.

Culled from quora.

Good for him.

TayserMahiri:


Is there another standup artist like him in SA?

We have a few in his level and many upcoming ones. But most of them use venicular.

Nowenuse:


From the beginning of this thread till now over 1,000 pages, what have you dimwits been able to prove? What do you still want to prove that you haven't tried to prove?

Go hundreds of pages back and see where i have challenged your own Kenyans on economical questions about their own country that they could not answer, go back and check where i challenged your own Kenyans about the low and average middle class areas of Nairobi against Lagos and they all went dumb.
You think all of us here are dumbheads to keep wasting our time on you imbecilles, going on a merry-go-round with you low-lifers all year round?

The Ethiopians are here now, at least they are the 2nd largest country in Africa and will be the largest economy in east africa for many years to come. So, they are more important to us. Also, they, the Ethiopians are more reasonable and well-cultured people and we have so much in common with them in our love for African histories and cultures. This is the starting point of our conversations with them and it will go further to other topics.

So, you Kenyans better fucck off! You are on a Nigerian forum, so you are not to decide the direction at which conversations between Nigerians and others should go.

Since you guys are better than Nigerians in all aspects, why don't you go to your own Kenyan forum of this magnitude and wait for Nigerians and other foreigners to come there? Arrant nonsense!

Writing long paragraphs does not make you intelligent mate. And by how many billions is Ethiopias economy larger than Kenyas? And what about the population? Your insults proves you have no content, you are just hungry for attention

TayserMahiri:
This American guy thinks Kenya is the Future of Africa. He has some very harsh words for Nigeria and South Africa

He says Nigeria is so damn corrupt that they cant get out their own way and South Africa is not Africa


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNjxdxPcSTg

Let's every member watch this then we close thread

Nowenuse:


From the beginning of this thread till now over 1,000 pages, what have you dimwits been able to prove? What do you still want to prove that you haven't tried to prove?
........

Please just watch this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNjxdxPcSTg

9jakool:

Stop saying Hausa-Fulanis. First Hausas didn't conquer parts of Northern Nigeria and Cameroon, the Fulanis did just like they conquered the Hausas in Nigeria at the time. In Northern Cameroon, there is no Hausa-Fulani in reality. Hausas were not united until the Fulani conquered them. Before then, they were a collection of states.

The Fulani also had the same Jihad throughout the rest of West Africa in Maasina, Fouta Djallon and Fouta Toro. The Hausas adopted the more conservative form of Islam adopted by the Hausas.

I know of a Mandika from Mali named Mansa Musa who traveled to Mecca on a caravan. I wan't you to name prominent Hausas who did so on caravans, not that I don't believe you, I just want to know. Only thevery rich or prominent could afford to go on hajj back then.

Also, I don't know what you are using as criteria for civilization. Must the Benins have a caravan to be considered "civilized" enough. They built the largest earthwork on the face of this planet, one of the largest walls in the world and the largest in Africa. They had a system of government/administration, they had a taxation system, they traded. What else must they have to be civilized enough?

Lol. I say Hausa-fulanis together because the Hausas also had their own kingdoms almost 1,000 years before they were conquered by the fulanis. At the peak of the hausa kingdoms in the 16th century, the hausas were already competing with Mali empire n Kanem-bornu over transaharan trade. They had been quite civilized before the fulanis came. So, you cannot absolve the hausas from the fulanis in core-northern Nigerian history.

**** Another thing is that, once the fulanis conquered the hausas, the fulanis heavily married hausa women due to shortage of fulani women creating highly mixed/hausanized fulanis and the fulanis also took more hausa soldiers with them to further conquer eastward n Southward territories. So, it was more of a mixed thing.

>>>>Hausas n fulanis throughout their histories of the kingdoms n sultanate were always warring. The sultanate especially was more interested in conquest n expansion than trade n wealth unlike the Mali empire, so no surprise if they weren't so wealthy to travel on caravans, while the older hausa kingdoms were always fighting each other, fighting Kanem-bornu, Kwararafa, Southern pagan tribes e.t.c (This is why most hausas still feel grateful to Danfodio for uniting them).

~~~~ Benins never learnt how to read n write and that set a huge blow to their claimed civilization. Human sacrifice, killing of twins n other abhorable practices were still the order of the day. N also, benins only travelled on foot. Lol

TayserMahiri:
Nairobi

Everybody agrees the future is Kenya..
Of course apart from the haters here

9jakool:

Yes they did in 1859. It was based in Abeokuta. It's the first newspaper in Nigeria.

Kk. That was great. Just that i know that the educated population then were extremely minute n rare. Or not? It couldn't be as widespread as that of the hausa-fulanis where the masses n majority of the population learnt how to read n write Ajami n Arabic.

Lionessza:









Wow ! This is beautiful, finally some real competition for SA

Really sista....ya forgot Kenya also

genieluv:


Kk. That was great. Just that i know that the educated population then were extremely minute n rare. Or not?

1859 you guys had a newspaper..what the fvk happened to Nigeria

mtis:

Really sista....ya forgot Kenya also

Lol , you are not yet there . Continue developing maybe you might finally catch up

Lionessza:








Lol , you are not yet there . Continue developing maybe you might finally catch up

Whaaaaaaat ..

mtis:

Whaaaaaaat ..

We're in different levels of development , we're are too far gone

Lionessza:








We're in different levels of development , we're are too far gone

Lionessaza how comes SA companies don't fair well in Kenya but you do well in other countries

Hati13:
Dear genieluv

I think my previous song post may be wrong. It may be this. Check it and tell me they aren't the same.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhQCfqDuiEY

Kk. I tot as much. However the first song was nice. The lady had such a good voice.

**** The movie pendulum was an ET movie? Was this dance part a scene from the movie? I never knew Ethiopians can do this kind of dance. Lol

mtis:

1859 you guys had a newspaper..what the fvk happened to Nigeria

The fucck was wrong colonial policies n military rule. Especially military rule which set us decades backwards.

genieluv:


The fucck was wrong colonial policies n military rule. Especially military rule which set us decades backwards.

1963 Kenya independence we were same level as South Korea..but I might say you guys were really really ahead of your time ..1859 most of Africa an Asia was in dark

Hbuyosh:
It's like he controls the country. In Kenya any good or services u consume, chances are the producing company either is owned by Kirubi, or he has some shares in that company. His business interests are varied and so widespread.

Media houses, textile and apparrel firms, hair and beauty products, food and beverages, pens, model agencies, hotels and resorts, real estate, shopping stores.....what a guy!

Not to forget the Two Rivers mall,

What is the meaning of Kenyan flag??
The colors and the symbol at the center? It is very unique