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| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by laudate: 2:06pm On Jul 03, 2017*. Modified: 3:12pm On Jul 03, 2017 |
Mujtahida:You saw how the chap you responded to, was quick to overlook the tribalism in Onyeama and Azikiwe's comments, and ascribe it to a desire to motivate their ethnic group, in the area of education. Can you see the hypocrisy? |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by ProWalker: 2:10pm On Jul 03, 2017 |
reality1010:A Zik of Africa that eventually turned to Owelle of Onitsha is not a tribalist? When then did he chase Eyo Ettah ? ![]() You Ibos are just impossible ![]() |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by ProWalker: 2:12pm On Jul 03, 2017 |
laudate:God bless you |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Mujtahida: 2:17pm On Jul 03, 2017 |
Volksfuhrer:Pazienza this guy has the gift to pack so much thoughts into few words. His first paragraph aptly sums up my sentiments as regards this issue. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Mujtahida: 2:26pm On Jul 03, 2017 |
laudate:Is that not the trap the Kaduna declaration put those Arewa guys into? While I do not support them I realise how difficult it is to avoid such reactionary rhetorics. But you know as does nearly everyone the sustained hate speeches that Kanu churned out on radio Biafra against them, against the Yoruba, against Nigeria like a musician waxing songs. Yet nobody from the East condemned it. But you see how even in the North and from all over Nigeria people roundly condemned the Kaduna declaration and those who sought to justify it. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by ProWalker: 2:36pm On Jul 03, 2017 |
Mujtahida:There is always this tendency for conspiracy of silence among Ibos in situations where they should rise up to condemn on of their. This is one of the justifications the Arewa boys gave, silence of the Igbo majority, creating an impression of acceptance. It' still boil down to We Vs the rest of Nigeria mentality. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Mujtahida: 3:07pm On Jul 03, 2017*. Modified: 2:08pm On Sep 10, 2017 |
ProWalker:And it is dangerous. It brings out the beast in all of us. If only we are strong and mature enough to deal with our own Bleep ups. But we don't. Hausa man will never condemn boko harm because of the Igbo man. Igbo man will never condemn evil in their midst because of the Hausa man. By the time either party reacts to the conspiracy of silence of the other it evokes so much bad blood and the rift continues to widen. Let me give an example: at the risk of being misunderstood as justifying the mayhem and butchering of the Igbos (which I ought not to do and cannot not do and I am not doing) let me say this as one who understands what in law is called 'chain of causation'. If for whatever it was, Ironsi had swiftly executed Ifeajuna, Nzeogwu, Ademilegun, Okafor and all the plotters of the 1966 coup then I can safely say that there would not have been a counter coup and possibly the massacre of the Igbos would have been obviated. Our parents understood this principle when we were growing up. If you disrespected a Neighbour or family friend and that person comes to report you, they usually will discipline you right there in front of the person hurt by your behaviour so much so that sometimes it would be that person who will plead for your absolution. By an instinctive understanding, our parents knew that this kind of action satisfied and placated the god of vengeance that lives in every human heart. But today we twist things and try to justify evil just so to spite others who are affected by our evil acts. The results has been consistent:violence, hatred, animosity and endless conflict. Forgive me, I tend to write too much |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by ProWalker: 3:38pm On Jul 03, 2017 |
Mujtahida:Not at all, I enjoy reading from you. Let me tell you one honest truth here (I know it's not right but I do it often), you are one of the few members here that I click the LIKE button on their comment, even without reading the comment yet, I only go back to read after then. Even though as a Yoruba tribalist (I'm not ashamed to say I'm one), I don't usually agree with some of your neutral stand, nevertheless I still enjoy your sense of comportment in the face of provocation. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Mujtahida: 4:24pm On Jul 03, 2017 |
ProWalker:Thank you for your generous words. Me I can't make a good politician ooo. I try as much as I can even though I feel it's futile to balance things up. Bros na barrack or rather Base I was born and grew up. In Politics balance is a golden fleece All the Ethnic groups lived in near harmony and even till date there's this fraternal bond that exists between us irrespective of tribe or religion. We tend to recreate our childhood in our adult life. Perhaps this is why I seem to come across as neutral but I have my own ethnic bias ooo and it's not even my tribe. Mo nife awon eniyan e Compartment? I get dirty and engage in e-savagery sometimes ooo. It's better to be sincere and say you are a tribalist the way you have said it. But I trust that you do not hate other tribes, do you?(analyse the names all Nigerian tribes call others: na derogatory words all) Cos I feel Nigerians can be like people who love their children dearly but do not hate their Neighbour's.(that me striving for balance again!) Ese |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Mujtahida: 5:20pm On Jul 03, 2017*. Modified: 6:02pm On Jul 03, 2017 |
pazienza:I am curious about this Igbo world view to compete, dominate and outdo each other and others(when you guys step outside the boundaries of the East). Could this need to compete, to dominate and outdo be borne out of the need to compensate for the lack of an empire in your history so much so that you guys have sought to subconsciously build material empires(representing conquest and mirroring the socio-political empires of other ethnic groups) in other people's lands or in Nigeria in general? Is that why you guys are quick to tag a place 'no man's land'? Could this be why Azikiwe earnestly sought for a united Nigeria when at various times Sardauna and Awolowo had respectively sought to take their people and go their way? Could this be why among the coup plotters soldiers of Igbo extraction were more in number and this need to dominate (empire drive) unconsciously predisposed them to killing other top politicians (this politicians one could say represented the extension of empire of their people in Nigeria who had to die for yours to be birthed) and sparing their own? Could this be the reason why you guys despise the Yorubas (they call their patience sophistication and it infuriates you guys but it seems that since they've had their empires they can afford to be patient with the Nigerian project) because you perceive them as betrayers of that empire building ambition you nurse and also abhor the Hausa and Fulani(they wrongly consider Nigeria to be an extension of the Caliphate) whom you perceive as preventing you guys from achieving that aim?You guys seem to have been frustrated and thwarted from having your moment in the sun where you can wear laurels and say 'here is Nigeria, we built it, of all the Ethnic groups we did it, we did it' Is that why you guys want Biafra just so that that need can be satisfied? I just want to understand it. I ask this questions in all sincerity. Laudate Prowalker Volksfuhrer Ngozi123 make we discuss ooo. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Ngozi123(f): 5:23pm On Jul 03, 2017 |
Mujtahida:Why are you mentioning me here? What has this got to do with my conversation with you? ![]() |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Nobody: 5:27pm On Jul 03, 2017 |
PFRB:Ejoor was probably hiding in the kitchen cabinet while those events were taking place. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by pazienza(m): 9:09pm On Jul 03, 2017*. Modified: 10:04pm On Jul 03, 2017 |
Mujtahida:It also happened in my university days, that we did have some group of extremely brilliant students in my class . These guys were good and they knew it and flaunted it. They were very boisterous about it. They would tell whoever that cared to listen how high their JAMB scores were, how excellent their WAEC were. These guys stay in the front row of the class, where they intimidate the rest of us with their vast knowledge, for while a lecturer will be teaching, these guys would be asking questions on topics the rest of us haven't even heard about, probably because those topics were at the end part of the course outline, but these guys had finished reading it all during the semester break, when the rest of us were busy resting from the stress of the previous semester. They compete for the lecturers attention amongst themselves, while the rest of us watch in bewilderment, it was so unreal. They all walk around the faculty like they were the owners of the block and look down on the rest of us. They don't mind teaching you, if you ask nicely, for they revere in showing off how good they were. They rob their success on everyone else face. They told everyone around how they intended going to prestigious schools abroad for their postgraduate studies, they sing about it every day that it almost seemed like they were trying to convince and encourage themselves that they were capable of such feats, like they had deep seated inferiority complex and have a constant need to remind themselves not to give up. When result comes out, these guys were never satisfied with distinction, they want to be the at the top of the class, and to them that's all that mattered , they want to be the one giving that valedictory speech on the D day and no one else. They push each other to the limit, so much that the three of them end up giving the rest of the class a long score gap on all the quizzes and exams. Do we hate them for working hard? Do we hate them for rubbing their success and future aspiration on our face, Do we kill them for seeking to remain on top of the class perpetually, gathering all the lecturers accolades and approval at our own detriment? Swaggering around the faculty like they were going to be the next Einsteins? Do we seek to destroy them for making the rest of us look like Dunces in class? There were always temptation to want to harm them. But we realized that the best way to beat them was at their own game. So when the school went on break, many of us refused to go on break, we had had enough of their haughty behavior, we were going to beat them at their own game. We were going to clip their wings. So we all stayed behind in school, and read like exam was tommorow, when school resumed, they and the lecturers were surprised that they were no longer shinning as bright as they did, most of all they knew, we knew too, they were still ahead, but only just! They were no longer shining as bright as they used to, not because we dimmed their light, but because we increased our own lights, that it was hard for theirs to stand out. The energy level of the class increased exponentially. Of course, not all of my coursemates took up the challenge. From then henceforth, It became a rat race to the valedictory post, they found out that they were not as special as they thought they were, they were no longer coming top on all the quizzes and exams, they still had an edge, but it shook the very foundation of their grandiosity, they were forced to sweat hard just to stay ahead, we earned their respect and they cut down on their haughty behavior. One of them ended up being the valedictorian, but only just! We couldn't surmount the upper hand the early years of their hard work gave them. I look back today and smile, those guy's haughty success driven nature was a catalyst that many of us latched unto to improve ourselves. We have our respectable grades today, thanks to them, they dared us, and we responded in a positive way. The problem was never them, the problem was us. Nothing is wrong with need and desire to dominate, as long as it's built on hardwork and merit. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Mujtahida: 9:13pm On Jul 03, 2017 |
pazienza:Na me go tell if it's Sublime not you. Anyway I dey wait. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by laudate: 2:19am On Jul 07, 2017 |
PFRB:Ejoor was one of those who played a role in thwarting the coup plotters' plans, in the old Eastern region. Nigeria’s first coup, Biafra: British Secret files (Part Two)| The NEWS | Jun 19 2016 -| |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by laudate: 2:51am On Jul 07, 2017*. Modified: 11:08pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
Diademk07:Maybe this piece would throw more light on the issue. Those alleging that the coup was done with Awolowo's knowledge are dead wrong. Awo didn't know about it. It was just wishful thinking on the part of the coupists, to think they would have been able to install Awo as head, if their coup had suceeded....... Ifeajuna fled to see Okigbo in Ibadan and then Ghana to see Brigadier Hasan Ghana’s Director of Military Intelligence and Lt Col David Zanlerigu, commander of Nkrumah’s Soviet-trained-and-equipped presidential bodyguards. (He was Ghana’s equivalent to Major Donatus Okafor, Commander of Federal Guards). Ifeajuna was intent on raising a specialised expeditionary force of 100 troops to finish the job while Okafor remained in the East until his arrest by Ojukwu two weeks later and subsequently transferred to Kirikiri. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Kingbabu: 7:14am On Jul 07, 2017 |
Why did they see Ifeajuna,Nzeogwu and co as Igbo and not Nigerians after being christened Nigeria ? |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by ItsMeAboki(m): 10:28am On Jul 07, 2017*. Modified: 12:41pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
SonofDevil:The so called Born to Rule mentality truly belongs to the Igbos: they wanted to rule right from day one; when they could not achieve it through the ballot box they took it by force through the barrel of the gun; when that failed, they decided to break away; when that too failed they went to war and failed; today we are here again witnessing a repetition of the latter part of that cycle. It is unfortunate that ordinary Igbos have to suffer for the blind selfish ambition of their leaders; caused by this born to rule mentality. Notice how the average igboman is never happy with somebody else is at the helm of affairs, because he always believes that nobody is ever good enough: whenever he cannot be at the top he would then create trouble; including jettisoning or trying to change any rule and agreements reached so as to disrupt or spoil the process; otherwise he would elect to entirely leave a partnership so that he may go elsewhere he can be at the top. In other words; it is either his way or the highway; in fact you can easily relate all the past and ongoing manipulations and agitations: geopolitical zoning, rotational presidency, restructuring and secession for Biafra as mere rule changing tactics to improve his chances of reaching the presidency (either within or outside the union, at any cost, even if it were against democratic principles) in order to satisfy that born to rule mentality. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by hamzeiy: 9:49pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
ProWalker:am telling you. they are just soo impossible. no wonder they are hated by not only the majority ethnic groups but even the minority one-s . even their closest ally anioma or ikwerre rather not associate with them unless for a political gain..i tire for them |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by hamzeiy: 9:58pm On Jul 08, 2017 |
pazienza:even the devil might want to give you a false logical reason for disobeying his Creator God, that been said the igbos can keep deceiving their selves with the desire to dominate..they will and never would get what they so desire.you cant force people to love you when everything about you is evil and hatefull. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by MrSly(m): 7:46am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Ever since morons discovered that Biafra is now more of reality that agitation they resumed their fight back including truncating the his history to suit their grief. We know the right story from the right source. Nigeria was corrupt even before independence. When you said Igbo plotted coup from independence you are a lied |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Nobody: 9:52am On Jul 09, 2017 |
Dumaknesset:Nope. The 10 month Pogrom led to the war. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Nobody: 9:52am On Jul 09, 2017 |
SuperS1Panther: |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Nobody: 10:11am On Jul 09, 2017 |
PrecisionFx:Prequel directly to the coup. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Mujtahida: 8:44am On Jul 18, 2017*. Modified: 6:24pm On Jul 18, 2017 |
pazienza:Empty drums make the loudest noise. How terrible it must have been to go through school with Donald Trumps-brash, uncouth, insensitive and pig headed snobs. You are holed up in your enclave. Step out and see how intelligent guys in other parts of Nigeria and outside Nigeria behave- they are just like everyone else only their grades distinguish them, nothing else as far as academics is concerned. They know how to be intelligent without being braggarts, they know how to motivate and inspire others without coming off as churlish, boisterous and imposing, they are suave, they are intelligent enough to know that intelligence alone ain't all there's is, they know how to bring out the best in others without compromising standards. Not like the arrogant blowbags, even extremely stupid loudmouths (yes, cos being brilliant has not made them immune to stupidity) you have described above whose intelligence draw hatred towards them because they are unwise. I have schooled with a mix of the Ethnic groups right from childhood to postgraduate levels. None behaves that way. Maybe in the South East that's how "intelligent" guys behave but that's not my experience with intelligent guys of South Eastern origin that I have met in the Middlebelt, North and South West. The truth is, that is how you behave not intelligent guys you profess to have known and the tragic part is you ain't even intelligent. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by pazienza(m): 9:03am On Jul 18, 2017 |
Mujtahida:Lol! I guess you have no rebuttal for my post. So let me ask again? Do you plan to kill such self confident brilliant students because they are proud of their academic merit driven heights and blame them for attracting your demonic laziness and incompetence driven hate on them and justify your murder by turning logic on its head, or do you counter them by picking up your own books and outscoring them in tests and exams and at the end, bettering your own standard and theirs , elevating the societal competence level in the process? ![]() |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Mujtahida: 4:50pm On Jul 22, 2017*. Modified: 5:46pm On Jul 22, 2017 |
pazienza:Nothing to reply to in your post save for my reply below because my central thesis remains unassailed rather you have even buttressed it albeit with your own ethnocentric slant: We are born to dominate says the Hausa and Fulani, We dominate because we know better says the Igboman. No wonder both hate each other. Such paradigms always breed hatred and strife. And the truth is that it is you guys who brought out the worst out of the Hausa and Fulani because in trying to beat you at your own game they became what they have become today. Do I need to kill them? In their delusion they are always in self destructive mode. They do just fine by themselves destroying themselves by their vainglorious stupidity. Abi was I the one who in my intelligence kept singing Ewu nebe akwa amidst an already wounded and hurt people? So much for intelligence. Today I have no tribal wound. You are the wounded one. You obviously do not know the etymology of the word 'demon'. I quite enjoy that tag. In the distance a large herd of pigs was feeding. 31 So the demons begged Jesus, “If You drive us out, send us into the herd of pigs.” 32 “Go!” He told them. So they came out and went into the pigs, and the whole HERD RUSHED DOWN THE STEEP BANK INTO THE SEA AND PERISHED IN THE WATERS.… |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Mujtahida: 5:13pm On Jul 22, 2017*. Modified: 5:51pm On Jul 22, 2017 |
pazienza:Thanks for the highly revealing Freudian slip @the first bolded. So inferiority complex is at the base of all the noise, the posturings, the swagger and like so many say here the chest beating? What are you guys compensating for, what ethno-historic lack do you want to mask with the facade of supposed intelligence and know how? Lack of empire? @the second bolded you surely was beaten at your own game in the reprisals for the first coup. Blood for blood but since you needed to be beaten at your own game you got more dead than you gave. Revenge will never be revenge unless it is more than the first injury. Sorry you were bloodied but that's human nature especially as it was in 1966. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Ismaeel02: 5:31pm On Jul 22, 2017 |
When Tafawa Balewa was Prime Minister of Nigeria; Chief of Army Staff was from SE Chief of Naval Staff was from SE IG of Police was from SE Chief of Defence staff was fron SE Internal Affairs Minister SE External Affairs Minister SE Education Minister South SE Many other key ministries to SE Parliament President SE Unilag VC from SE University of Ibadan VC from SE North resisted same at ABU! Still there was dissatisfaction by SE, the officers from the region killed this same Balewa!!!! Out of all the most senior officers in Nigeria, SE has 37, none was killed. 8 from the north, all of them were killed. 10 from the west, 2 were killed. Then Ironsi imposed a unitary system of government on the country so that everything can belong to a region who snatched it! We must know our history so that when we want to make corrections, we will not end up concealing the truth. This has nothing to do with tribalism but everything to do with the truth.....at times when lies litter the streets. These are documented facts! Thou shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. Ayekooto Akindele |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by pazienza(m): 11:21pm On Jul 30, 2017 |
Mujtahida:What inferiority complex do you speak of? Inferiority complex is when you seek to pull another down rather than build up yourself to stand taller. That is inferiority complex. For your second paragraph. The coup remains an Awolowo coup, so I don't know the game you speak of. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by Kagawa10: 12:23am On Jul 31, 2017 |
pazienza:Lol. It's documented that it's an Ibo coup, even Nzeogwu confirmed it, there's nothing a useless revisionist as yourself can do about it. |
| Re: Igbo Soldiers Plotted Coup From Independence Day -david Ejoor by pazienza(m): 12:24am On Jul 31, 2017 |
Kagawa10:Documented by who? Nzeogwu called it an Igbo coup? ![]() Tell me you didn't smoke that sh** again. ![]() |
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Those alleging that the coup was done with Awolowo's knowledge are dead wrong.