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EgunMogaji:
I didn't deck my kitchen.

I consider it a waste of resources in light of lighter fighter retardant materials in the market which are available in Nigeria.

Brabus and I discussed it in the past.

One has to follow the path that's most comfortable for one, it's only money and we can't take it with us

True, one cannot be too careful, what kind of fire retardant ceiling material have you got in mind?cos the ceiling is where the problem lies, fire engulf ceiling burns unto wood, the spread to other part of the house.for the door its cool.

oyb:
I'm surprised to read this. All these appliances come with name plates which indicate wattage or current. There is also a limit on what you can test in the shop.

Not all, most have the power details in the power socket which are usually meant for protection hence what is labelled there is fuse rating of the device rather than its actually usage power consumption. The biggest problem is having to actually go to a physical store and check the nameplates. From my experience of doing energy audit with a watt meter, listed wattage are in most cases an vary from actual usage. The worst offenders are freezers.

EgunMogaji:
This is good to hear.

Do you mind sharing info on the batteries?

There are Mercury Tubular Batteries. Although the particular model I have is nolonger imported, Luminous sell similar batteries. It is a flooded acid battery which means it needs to be topped up periodically from time to time with distilled water.

bigrovar:
There are Mercury Tubular Batteries. Although the particular model I have is nolonger imported, Luminous sell similar batteries. It is a flooded acid battery which means it needs to be topped up periodically from time to time with distilled water.

Okay I'll do a search

Thanks

erico2k2:
True, one cannot be too careful, what kind of fire retardant ceiling material have you got in mind?cos the ceiling is where the problem lies, fire engulf ceiling burns unto wood, the spread to other part of the house.for the door its cool.

We yanks call it gypsum board or drywall here not sure what yah all call it out there

Throw "fire resistant drywall" into Google for a looksee.

I also intend that have commercial grade fire hoses on the outside and fire extinguisher on the inside.

Remember we discussed my linked WiFi fire and carbon detectors?

It'll be bad if my "refugee asylum" went up in flames �

EgunMogaji:
We yanks call it gypsum board or drywall here not sure what yah all call it out there

Throw "fire resistant drywall" into Google for a looksee.

I also intend that have commercial grade fire hoses on the outside and fire extinguisher on the inside.

Remember we discussed my linked WiFi fire and carbon detectors?

It'll be bad if my "refugee asylum" went up in flames �

Ok I have seen it,
1 are they sold locally?
2 is it cost effective?
3 since we talking fire prevention across the whole house do you recon this is cheaper than the kitchen decking? or just preference?
me Im thinking of the cheapest practical way though cos fire nor fit burn decked ceiling though.

bigrovar:
There are Mercury Tubular Batteries. Although the particular model I have is nolonger imported, Luminous sell similar batteries. It is a flooded acid battery which means it needs to be topped up periodically from time to time with distilled water.

I think if funds are not a major concern, then your safer with TROJAN IND batteries

erico2k2:
Ok I have seen it,
1 are they sold locally?
2 is it cost effective?
3 since we talking fire prevention across the whole house do you recon this is cheaper than the kitchen decking? or just preference?
me Im thinking of the cheapest practical way though cos fire nor fit burn decked ceiling though.

1) Yes, sold locally. Dominionng, Sir any thoughts?

2) In my opinion yes. I did deck my safe room.

3) The kitchen decking will work perfectly but I don't think something that elaborate is necessary if you have fire extinguisher and alarms.

I take fire prevention and avoidance seriously.

No gas canister in the kitchen, install water spout on top of the cooker, etc are all things I'm doing.

44chux:
I think if funds are not a major concern, then your safer with TROJAN IND batteries

TROJAN industrial-line flooded deep-cycle batteries go for 15years without stress as compared to regular sealed batteries that go for about 2years, and the flooded ones less than four years

EgunMogaji:
1) Yes, sold locally. Dominionng, Sir any thoughts?

2) In my opinion yes. I did deck my safe room.

3) The kitchen decking will work perfectly but I don't think something that elaborate is necessary if you have fire extinguisher and alarms.

I take fire prevention and avoidance seriously.

No gas canister in the kitchen, install water spout on top of the cooker, etc are all things I'm doing.

Ok seen and yes no Gas canister.

erico2k2:
True, one cannot be too careful, what kind of fire retardant ceiling material have you got in mind?cos the ceiling is where the problem lies, fire engulf ceiling burns unto wood, the spread to other part of the house.for the door its cool.

One of the reason for POP ceiling

GoodFaith:
One of the reason for POP ceiling

Would that be fire resistant?
ie wont melt under fire plus heat?

bixton:
. As long as your drainage flows freely without impediments it is okay and legal to do that. But you can confirm such from the sanitation authorities within your locality. Based on number of bags for plastering you can use this to have an idea.....(standard room of 12X12 will use 6bags for plastering as long as your walls are in order of alignment).
The pits all serve the same purpose. Government regulatory standard demands you do separate but you can opt to do it as a single unit. There's no big deal about it.

Thank you very much. Much obliged. Does the 6 bags for a 12 x 12 room include plastering the ceiling?

EgunMogaji:
1) Yes, sold locally. Dominionng, Sir any thoughts?

2) In my opinion yes. I did deck my safe room.

3) The kitchen decking will work perfectly but I don't think something that elaborate is necessary if you have fire extinguisher and alarms.

I take fire prevention and avoidance seriously.

No gas canister in the kitchen, install water spout on top of the cooker, etc are all things I'm doing.

we are doing fire alarm hydrant sprinkler system for a client.. cost much but will udpate the house when we are through...

erico2k2:
Would that be fire resistant?
ie wont melt under fire plus heat?

another thing we can consider in the kitchen is to have enough space.. some of us use to choke the kitchen with unnecessary items

erico2k2:
Would that be fire resistant?
ie wont melt under fire plus heat?

managing fire in kitchen
Decking in the kitchen and fire extinguisher
POP in the kitchen and fire extinguisher
You can't completely take out the risk but manage the risk
fire alarm hydrant sprinkler system are usually for big units-- cost is a big issue

rabcnesbit:
Thank you very much. Much obliged. Does the 6 bags for a 12 x 12 room include plastering the ceiling?

. Nope. Add a max of 3 bags for that.

bixton:
. Nope. Add a max of 3 bags for that.

two bricklayers and one server to a room

GoodFaith:
managing fire in kitchen
Decking in the kitchen and fire extinguisher
POP in the kitchen and fire extinguisher
You can't completely take out the risk but manage the risk
fire alarm hydrant sprinkler system are usually for big units-- cost is a big issue

no be small money

Personally I think decking the kitchen and installing iron/ fireproof doors and windows is the best to contain any uncontrolled fire in the kitchen. Then it would be a burn down philosophy with the passive fire protection stopping any further spread,

Fire extinguisher would require annual training / refresher for residents. The training not only teaches how to fight small fires, but most importantly, gives the confidence to do so as well as what to do when the fire cannot be contained. Otherwise people have a natural tendency to panic in an emergency and that poses a greater risk

twinskenny:
c
no be small money

The reason people don't use it at homes-- it cost in the develop countries

GoodFaith:
managing fire in kitchen
Decking in the kitchen and fire extinguisher
POP in the kitchen and fire extinguisher
You can't completely take out the risk but manage the risk
fire alarm hydrant sprinkler system are usually for big units-- cost is a big issue

Correct, me Im trying to steer to containment if fire brakes out.In the real world when fire brakes out you are meant to take off lol.
Sprinklers are for commercial Buildings or complex.

erico2k2:
Correct, me Im trying to steer to containment if fire brakes out.In the real world when fire brakes out you are meant to take off lol.
Sprinklers are for commercial Buildings or complex.

"Sprinklers are for commercial Buildings or complex."
Yes
If you have lot of money
Any thing is possible-- you might have cash of US dollar ten million live in the house

erico2k2:
Correct, me Im trying to steer to containment if fire brakes out.In the real world when fire brakes out you are meant to take off lol.
Sprinklers are for commercial Buildings or complex.

A sprinkler might not be very effective in the kitchen for 2 reasons:

First, there are usually too many flammable materials in the kitchen eg plastics, flour, oils, the kitchen cabinets itself, etc which might easily escalate the fire before detection occurs

secondly, cooking oil fires burn at an elevated temperature that atomizes any water that comes into contact with it into oxygen and hydrogen which in turn feeds the fire. So a sprinkler system that is activated in the event of cooking oil fire will destroy the kitchen

44chux:
A sprinkler might not be very effective in the kitchen for 2 reasons:

First, there are usually too many flammable materials in the kitchen eg plastics, flour, oils, the kitchen cabinets itself, etc which might easily escalate the fire before detection occurs

secondly, cooking oil fires burn at an elevated temperature that atomizes any water that comes into contact with it into oxygen and hydrogen which in turn feeds the fire. So a sprinkler system that is activated in the event of cooking oil fire will destroy the kitchen

Nahh no one puts sprinkler in a residential house where people live, Even when its i n a complex it o n the hall way or common area.For those reasons you just mentioned are same reasons you cant have it inside your house,its canter productive.

Estimate Of Raft Foundation And Fence On 526.210 Sq.meter Water Logged Land In L -
To:Engineers/experts in the house.
Cc: Moderator, Super-moderator

Kindly assist a brother on the estimate of the subject matters as I intend to start the project as soon the rain stops.

Thanks in advance.
C

erico2k2:
Nahh no one puts sprinkler in a residential house where people live, Even when its i n a complex it o n the hall way or common area.For those reasons you just mentioned are same reasons you cant have it inside your house,its canter productive.

SHEAU:
Estimate Of Raft Foundation And Fence On 526.210 Sq.meter Water Logged Land In L -
To:Engineers/experts in the house.
Cc: Moderator, Super-moderator

Kindly assist a brother on the estimate of the subject matters as I intend to start the project as soon the rain stops.

Thanks in advance.
C

I think you need to provide pic of land, dimensions of land and plan, pros in the house will come to ur aid

twinskenny:
we are doing fire alarm hydrant sprinkler system for a client.. cost much but will udpate the house when we are through...

Out of curiosity, what is your expertise level on this highly technical and life insurance now that job?

44chux:
Personally I think decking the kitchen and installing iron/ fireproof doors and windows is the best to contain any uncontrolled fire in the kitchen. Then it would be a burn down philosophy with the passive fire protection stopping any further spread,

Fire extinguisher would require annual training / refresher for residents. The training not only teaches how to fight small fires, but most importantly, gives the confidence to do so as well as what to do when the fire cannot be contained. Otherwise people have a natural tendency to panic in an emergency and that poses a greater risk

My three year old cannot operate the extinguisher but she knows what it is and where it is. We do trimonthly security check in my household. And we actually activate one of the extinguisher.

erico2k2:
Correct, me Im trying to steer to containment if fire brakes out.In the real world when fire brakes out you are meant to take off lol.
Sprinklers are for commercial Buildings or complex.

Not in most cities in California.

Rental units in Fontana as an example are required to have fire sprinklers.

erico2k2:
Nahh no one puts sprinkler in a residential house where people live, Even when its i n a complex it o n the hall way or common area.For those reasons you just mentioned are same reasons you cant have it inside your house,its canter productive.

Erico2k2, stop that Sir

Many houses have fire sprinkler per code.

bixton:
. Nope. Add a max of 3 bags for that.

Thank you!