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Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by BluntBoy(op): 7:56pm On Jul 23, 2017
plutohunter:
So, a boy who calls his dad father is also placing him over Jesus according yo your line of reasoning #think
Read your Bible. It's not for decoration. You should know that Jesus was not referring to physical father but spiritual father.

He asked us not to be like the Pharisees. So you should know that he couldn't have meant "father" in its earthly sense.
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by BluntBoy(op): 8:01pm On Jul 23, 2017
plutohunter:
All I can see in your post is ignorance
If only you can take more time to think you'll see that according to your own way of interpreting scriptures, only Jesus will make heaven, no other man will.
I wonder where you people even get all this hell hell hell stuffs from in the bible. Always read verses in context
So, it is now impossible to follow Christ? What makes it impossible to make heaven in what I have stated.

Is it so difficult to stop calling a fellow Christian your spiritual father?

Or is it so difficult to stop believing in the bullshit that some people are anointed by God and others are not?
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by 400billionman: 8:33pm On Jul 23, 2017
yanabasee:
Christianity lost it all when the supposed men of God began to see themselves as God itself...

They walk around with pride written all over them... They brainwash people by manipulating the Scripture to fit into their personal belief... They preach more on offerings and tithes which is more benefiting to them..than preaching repentance and true love and other topics that would define what christianity is all about...

Same reasons most people claim to be atheist... because they've tried christianity and they didn't find it worth it...

Nobody wants to go to church and listen to a pastor preach about who's supposed to win election and who's not supposed to... Lots of pastors have now diverted into political discussion even during sermons...


God please forgive me if this my post will make many half-christian lose their believe/faith in you!
You made salient points.

The underlying problem with Christians is, " MOST CHRISTIANS GO TO CHURCH FOR GOD TO SOLVE THEIR NEEDS ", so the shepherds now harp unto their weaknesses to scam them. Now, i worship God because " I LOVE GOD "..

The man whom you are running to in order to solve your problem has more problems than you.

When you present yourself as a patient to a medical doctor, be ready to accept all his prescriptions, even if he decides to write pregnancy drugs just to cure your HEADACHE.

Before now, i refused to accept that most so called pastors are scammers, i just got full conviction, this 2017, that majority of pastors are working for their pockets.

I am not judging anyone but i am talking from my own personal experiences with them. Hunger and Greed drives them.

They are mortal men like you. May God forgive me for calling my fellow man DADDY.
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by abasscity(m): 8:48pm On Jul 23, 2017
BluntBoy:
My brothers and sisters. Happy Sunday. I have a message for you from our Lord Jesus Christ. I got this message yesterday while reading my Bible during one of my quiet time. Many of you will not like this, but it has to be said. "Narrow is the way... " says our Lord.

You will go to hell because:

You Place Some of Your Brethren Over You and Call them Teachers or Pastors




This goes against the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ who, in Matt 23:8, says "For you have one teacher, and you are all brethren."

Our Lord also says in John 10:16: "So there shall be one flock, one shepherd."

You call Some of Your Brethren Daddy and Father

It's unbiblical to call any of your brethren father in the spiritual sense. We only have different earthly fathers; spiritually, we only have one father. In Matt 23:9, Jesus says: "And call no man your father on earth, for you have one father, who is in heaven."

And to Those Pastors Who Call Themselves or Allow Fellow Brethren to Call Them Leaders

Jesus says in Matt 23:10: "Neither be called leaders, for you have one leader, the Christ."

Believing That "Men of God" Are The Only Ones That Have Anointing

Many Christians are lazy. They defend some of their brethren whom they have ignorantly put over themselves.

In 1 John 2:26-27, Jesus makes us realize that we are all anointed and can have the Holy Spirit teach us anything we don't understand. This is Jesus's exact words in John 2:

26 These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you.

27 But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.

All the above points are contained in the greatest failings of Christians today. They are like people who were given talents but gave all to their brethren whom they have elevated over themselves. Jesus did not establish this form of Christianity we have today. It's unbiblical and will lead you to hell. You are not going to be spared for being ignorant because you have the Bible and no one has an excuse not to study it. I repeat, everything our Lord criticized the Pharisees for are what your brethren whom you have made bosses over you are doing. Jesus rebuked Peter for asking a question about who would be first in the body of Christ. The commission given to us is not sit down in a mighty building and listen to a "man of God" and then give offerings and tithes. The commission is to go and preach the gospel or the Good News. It is a commission to everyone. Jesus is no longer physically with us but he has left the Holy Spirit to guide us through. On the last day, the Lord will ask you how you went about your commission.

In Matt 6:5-6, Our Lord says: “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

God bless you all. Happy Sunday once again.
Bless you my brother. You are blessed. I write this not as a man but you spoke the truth
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by plutohunter: 8:57pm On Jul 23, 2017
BluntBoy:
So, it is now impossible to follow Christ? What makes it impossible to make heaven in what I have stated
The point is though you and i have sentiments about believers taking some things to extremes due to inadequate study to see their new creation realities, we must be careful not to go the other extreme by saying believer's will go to hell for things that become clearer to them as they grow

So in your opinion there shouldn't be teachers,pastors and other ministry gifts in the church?
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by Davsef: 9:42pm On Jul 23, 2017
In the book luke 6vs13 our lord choose his disciple and called them apostle so nothing is wrong calling a person pastor
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by BluntBoy(op): 10:11pm On Jul 23, 2017
abasscity:
Bless you my brother. You are blessed. I write this not as a man but you spoke the truth
Thank you, my brother. Much appreciation.
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by yanabasee(m): 10:21pm On Jul 23, 2017
400billionman:
You made salient points.

The underlying problem with Christians is, " MOST CHRISTIANS GO TO CHURCH FOR GOD TO SOLVE THEIR NEEDS ", so the shepherds now harp unto their weaknesses to scam them. Now, i worship God because " I LOVE GOD "..

The man whom you are running to in order to solve your problem has more problems than you.

When you present yourself as a patient to a medical doctor, be ready to accept all his prescriptions, even if he decides to write pregnancy drugs just to cure your HEADACHE.

Before now, i refused to accept that most so called pastors are scammers, i just got full conviction, this 2017, that majority of pastors are working for their pockets.

I am not judging anyone but i am talking from my own personal experiences with them. Hunger and Greed drives them.

They are mortal men like you. May God forgive me for calling my fellow man DADDY.
One thing i've never done and will never do is worship a pastor...
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by BluntBoy(op): 10:39pm On Jul 23, 2017
plutohunter:
The point is though you and i have sentiments about believers taking some things to extremes due to inadequate study to see their new creation realities, we must be careful not to go the other extreme by saying believer's will go to hell for things that become clearer to them as they grow

So in your opinion there shouldn't be teachers,pastors and other ministry gifts in the church?
It's not my opinion. It is what the Lord says. The church is the body of Christ. And it has only one teacher and pastor who is our Lord Jesus Christ. Anyone who tells you that he is a pastor or teacher in a church (a body of Christ) should be reminded that everyone is equal in the body of Christ. Even if you are one of the most knowledgeable persons in the body, you can't seperate yourself from the others by claiming to have special anointing and by calling yourself a pastor or teacher.
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by siloXIX(m): 11:04pm On Jul 23, 2017
BluntBoy:
He said that because of the Pharisees and it stays binding. He asked us not to be like the Pharisees. Not necessarily because of the Pharisees. It means we must never be like these people.

Or how do you understand the statement? Do you understand it to mean that Jesus was asking us to not do like the Pharisees until the Age we are in where people have resumed calling fellow Christians like them Daddy?
yes. we shouldn't be like the pharisees
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by Millz404(m): 11:28pm On Jul 23, 2017
grandstar:
I support your statement that death is the opposite of life (Genesis 3:19, Romans 6:23, 2 Thessalonians 1:8-10).

However I frown at you saying you'll wipe him slap ( Collosians 4:6)

Thanks for your contribution. The true God will be pleased!
Do me a favor please

Gerara here
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by plutohunter: 11:35pm On Jul 23, 2017
BluntBoy:
It's not my opinion. It is what the Lord says. The church is the body of Christ. And it has only one teacher and pastor who is our Lord Jesus Christ. Anyone who tells you that he is a pastor or teacher in a church (a body of Christ) should be reminded that everyone is equal in the body of Christ. Even if you are one of the most knowledgeable persons in the body, you can't seperate yourself from the others by claiming to have special anointing and by calling yourself a pastor or teacher.
This is quite funny, now I see why you're so confused
There shouldn't be pastors, evangelists, prophets,teachers,apostles in the church since we all have the same spirit of God
It seems to me that you've concluded Paul and other apostles preached a different Gospel than Jesus'
Mehnnn, you need time to think and meditate bro
I'm beginning to wonder which bible you've been reading
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by BluntBoy(op): 12:28am On Jul 24, 2017
plutohunter:
This is quite funny, now I see why you're so confused
There shouldn't be pastors, evangelists, prophets,teachers, apostles in the church since we all have the same spirit of God
It seems to me that you've concluded Paul and other apostles preached a different Gospel than Jesus'
Mehnnn, you need time to think and meditate bro
I'm beginning to wonder which bible you've been reading
The word "Apostle" had two forms in the Bible.

First, it was used for the disciples of Christ who later became apostles. These people were the foundational pillars of the Church. They were twelve and chosen to be Twelve. When Judas died, Peter talked to the others concerning a replacement. They had to bring the number back to 12. Paul would later claim to have been chosen as one of the foundational pillars even though he had to continually defend his apostleship.

The second form of apostleship is what we, as Christians, are. We have all been called to preach the gospel. Oyedepo is not anymore of an apostle than I am. We all bear the same responsibility. Our responsibilities are not to sit in a building and listen to Oyedepo who supposedly bears a more special title and anointing than us. Our responsibilities are to work together as a body to spread the Good News all over the world.
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by BluntBoy(op): 12:36am On Jul 24, 2017
plutohunter:
This is quite funny, now I see why you're so confused
There shouldn't be pastors, evangelists, prophets,teachers,apostles in the church since we all have the same spirit of God
It seems to me that you've concluded Paul and other apostles preached a different Gospel than Jesus'
Mehnnn, you need time to think and meditate bro
I'm beginning to wonder which bible you've been reading
I will be going to bed now. But you can post a reply to the post immediately before this one. I will surely reply it as soon as I wake up and check.
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by Distinguishy(m): 7:31am On Jul 24, 2017
U obviously are not balance scripturally and spiritually. Ur judgement is just based on human reasoning. Guess what ? If am not thankful for anything in life, i thank God u are not God.
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by GodsMopol: 10:17am On Jul 24, 2017
[quote author=BluntBoy post=58742038][/quote]Well, please lets open our Bible

about Pastors

1 Corinthians 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. 12:29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?

Ephesians 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

Romans 1:1, Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

1 Corinthians 1:1 Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Chris t through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,

2 Corinthians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:

Galatians 1:1 Paul, apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the deadwink

and the list goes on and on.

About calling people Daddy

Acts 15:32 And Judas and Silas, being prophets Also themselves, exhorted the brethren with many words, and confirmed them.

Acts 21:8 And the next day we that were of Paul's company departed, and came unto Caesarea: and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, which was one of the seven; and abode with him.

1 Timothy 1:2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.

Titus 1:4 To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.

Philemon 1:10 I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds:

About man of God being anointed

Romans 1:11 For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;

1 Timothy 4:14 Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hand of the presbytry

James 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

Thanks for your time
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by GodsMopol: 10:20am On Jul 24, 2017
abasscity:
Bless you my brother. You are blessed. I write this not as a man but you spoke the truth
don't be thankful yet. Read my previous reply on this thread
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by BluntBoy(op): 10:37am On Jul 24, 2017
GodsMopol:
Well, please lets open our Bible

about Pastors

1 Corinthians 12:28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. 12:29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?

Ephesians 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.) 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

Romans 1:1, Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

1 Corinthians 1:1 Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Chris t through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother,

2 Corinthians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:

Galatians 1:1 Paul, apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the deadwink

and the list goes on and on.

About calling people Daddy

Acts 15:32 And Judas and Silas, being prophets Also themselves, exhorted the brethren with many words, and confirmed them.

Acts 21:8 And the next day we that were of Paul's company departed, and came unto Caesarea: and we entered into the house of Philip the evangelist, which was one of the seven; and abode with him.

1 Timothy 1:2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.

Titus 1:4 To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.

Philemon 1:10 I beseech thee for my son Onesimus, whom I have begotten in my bonds:

About man of God being anointed

Romans 1:11 For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established;

1 Timothy 4:14 Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hand of the presbytry

James 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

Thanks for your time
What do you know about Paul? Would you rather follow Paul at the expense of Jesus and the Twelve Apostles who were the foundational pillars of the Church?

Tell me which of the Twelve Apostles asked anyone to call them leaders or pastors or daddy or fathers?

Paul claims to be an apostle with the same standing as the Twelve but the only proof he has are the ones he made in his own writing. Why did Paul later cut all contacts with the Twelve?
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by GodsMopol: 2:07pm On Jul 24, 2017
BluntBoy:
What do you know about Paul? Would you rather follow Paul at the expense of Jesus and the Twelve Apostles who were the foundational pillars of the Church?

Tell me which of the Twelve Apostles asked anyone to call them leaders or pastors or daddy or fathers?
would I follow Paul when Paul said I have received of the Lord

John 20:16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.

1 Corinthians 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, [/b]That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

Matthew 10:2 Now the names of the [b]twelve apostles
are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;

Luke 7:28 For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than John

BluntBoy:
Paul claims to be an apostle with the same standing as the Twelve but the only proof he has are the ones he made in his own writing. Why did Paul later cut all contacts with the Twelve?
Dude, I really wanna quit arguing with you. All I would say is, you don't believe the Bible at all. because Paul was converted and he preached the.gospel. Paul went about preaching the gospel, he faced what God called him to do. In your original Post, you mentioned evangelism and you are mentioning Paul breaking up, first thing, they broke up once and they came back

please where did Paul break away as you claim, more so, see what Peter said about Paul

2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

BluntBoy:
Tell me which of the Twelve Apostles asked anyone to call them leaders or pastors or daddy or fathers?
Loooooooool, Must they say so how do you view the Bible. A book that just says everything I guess. hear what John said.

John 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by BluntBoy(op): 2:38pm On Jul 24, 2017
GodsMopol:
would I follow Paul when Paul said I have received of the Lord

John 20:16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.

1 Corinthians 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, [/b]That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

Matthew 10:2 Now the names of the [b]twelve apostles
are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;

Luke 7:28 For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than John



Dude, I really wanna quit arguing with you. All I would say is, you don't believe the Bible at all. because Paul was converted and he preached the.gospel. Paul went about preaching the gospel, he faced what God called him to do. In your original Post, you mentioned evangelism and you are mentioning Paul breaking up, first thing, they broke up once and they came back

please where did Paul break away as you claim, more so, see what Peter said about Paul

2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.



Loooooooool, Must they say so how do you view the Bible. A book that just says everything I guess. hear what John said.

John 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
You are making this very tiring. Most of your statements are off-point. Could you explain why you boldened John 20:16 and Matthew 10:2?

Read 2 John 1:10-11. But I will like to know why you made BOLD the verses I wrote above.
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by BluntBoy(op): 2:45pm On Jul 24, 2017
GodsMopol:
would I follow Paul when Paul said I have received of the Lord

John 20:16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.

1 Corinthians 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, [/b]That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

Matthew 10:2 Now the names of the [b]twelve apostles
are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;

Luke 7:28 For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than John



Dude, I really wanna quit arguing with you. All I would say is, you don't believe the Bible at all. because Paul was converted and he preached the.gospel. Paul went about preaching the gospel, he faced what God called him to do. In your original Post, you mentioned evangelism and you are mentioning Paul breaking up, first thing, they broke up once and they came back

please where did Paul break away as you claim, more so, see what Peter said about Paul

2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.



Loooooooool, Must they say so how do you view the Bible. A book that just says everything I guess. hear what John said.

John 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
Paul claimed to have been converted but he was not of the Twelve. There are only Twelve Apostles who were the pillars. Paul was not among them. He was a Pharisee who claimed to have been converted. Many of his teachings contradicted the words of our Lord. He had problems with the Twelve and soon cut himself off. He began to model his ministry just as the Pharisees. Jesus asked us never to call anyone teacher. The Twelve never asked anyone to call them teachers. But Paul went about equating himself with the Twelve and calling brethren his sons. It is against what Jesus wanted for the Church.
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by plutohunter: 3:17pm On Jul 24, 2017
BluntBoy:
Paul claimed to have been converted but he was not of the Twelve. There are only Twelve Apostles who were the pillars. Paul was not among them. He was a Pharisee who claimed to have been converted. Many of his teachings contradicted the words of our Lord. He had problems with the Twelve and soon cut himself off. He began to model his ministry just as the Pharisees. Jesus asked us never to call anyone teacher. The Twelve never asked anyone to call them teachers. But Paul went about equating himself with the Twelve and calling brethren his sons. It is against what Jesus wanted for the Church.
Since I've established that you don't believe in the writings of Paul nor his apostleship, I'll conclude there's no point debating with you
Only if you'll be sincere to yourself will you see that many things Jesus said cannot be fully grasped till you study the epistles .Jesus said things based on his audience, sometimes harsh words to show the Pharisees the futility of their dependence on their works
How do you explain Jesus' statement "except
your righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees you'll by no means enter the kingdom of heaven"
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by BluntBoy(op): 5:20pm On Jul 24, 2017
plutohunter:
Since I've established that you don't believe in the writings of Paul nor his apostleship, I'll conclude there's no point debating with you
Only if you'll be sincere to yourself will you see that many things Jesus said cannot be fully grasped till you study the epistles .Jesus said things based on his audience, sometimes harsh words to show the Pharisees the futility of their dependence on their works
How do you explain Jesus' statement "except
your righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees you'll by no means enter the kingdom of heaven"
The quote is very simple. Jesus never said the Pharisees were not righteous. He only had problems with their righteousness which was only outward. The Pharisees knew the law and Jesus liked that. But they were not righteous inwards. They prayed for their enemies in the synagogues for everyone to see but inwardly, they continued to hate their enemies. Now, Jesus wants us to surpass such righteousness. What Jesus means is that he wants his flock to be righteous inwardly and outwardly and not just outwardly like the Pharisees.
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by BluntBoy(op): 5:28pm On Jul 24, 2017
plutohunter:
Since I've established that you don't believe in the writings of Paul nor his apostleship, I'll conclude there's no point debating with you
Only if you'll be sincere to yourself will you see that many things Jesus said cannot be fully grasped till you study the epistles .Jesus said things based on his audience, sometimes harsh words to show the Pharisees the futility of their dependence on their works
How do you explain Jesus' statement "except
your righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees you'll by no means enter the kingdom of heaven"
OK, explain why Jesus asked that no one be called leaders and father in the body but Paul went about calling people his children? How does that make Jesus's words clearer?
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by GodsMopol: 5:40pm On Jul 24, 2017
BluntBoy:
Paul claimed to have been converted but he was not of the Twelve. There are only Twelve Apostles who were the pillars. Paul was not among them. He was a Pharisee who claimed to have been converted. Many of his teachings contradicted the words of our Lord. He had problems with the Twelve and soon cut himself off. He began to model his ministry just as the Pharisees. Jesus asked us never to call anyone teacher. The Twelve never asked anyone to call them teachers. But Paul went about equating himself with the Twelve and calling brethren his sons. It is against what Jesus wanted for the Church.
I regret seeing your post on FP. To be sincere. It does not deserve FP at all.

More so, Jesus can't send people to hell because they called someone teacher, Jesus was called Rabbi on many occasion, Jesus was called teacher on various occasion. Nicodemus called Jesus Rabbi. Christianity on NL is facing many persecutions, STOP BACKSTABBING
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by BluntBoy(op): 7:36pm On Jul 24, 2017
GodsMopol:
I regret seeing your post on FP. To be sincere. It does not deserve FP at all.

More so, Jesus can't send people to hell because they called someone teacher, Jesus was called Rabbi on many occasion, Jesus was called teacher on various occasion. Nicodemus called Jesus Rabbi. Christianity on NL is facing many persecutions, STOP BACKSTABBING
My brother, please, where in my posts did I say Jesus should not be called Rabbi?

As a matter of fact, my position has always been that we are the body of Christ and he is our head, teacher, and leader. I wrote that the practice of placing a fellow Christian over you and giving them special title in Church was against the teaching of Christ who said that we are one flock and He is our shepherd. Please, my thread never asked anyone not to call Christ Rabbi.
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by GodsMopol: 8:44pm On Jul 24, 2017
BluntBoy:
My brother, please, where in my posts did I say Jesus should not be called Rabbi?

As a matter of fact, my position has always been that we are the body of Christ and he is our head, teacher, and leader. I wrote that the practice of placing a fellow Christian over you and giving them special title in Church was against the teaching of Christ who said that we are one flock and He is our shepherd. Please, my thread never asked anyone not to call Christ Rabbi.
okay ooooooh

Its just paining that you have given many more reason to discredit the Bible because of some third hand information you chose to
believe. believe what you want, if you want say what you want about Jesus or become an atheist, I care no more. I do say Jehovah Witness are Antichrist but your upgrade is mad. Funny enough you are wearing wool
Re: Why Many Christians May Burn In Hell by olaolutreasure(m): 8:26pm On Oct 05, 2017
kullozone:
But Christians too dey suffer oh!
If you make any small mistake, you burn forever.
God is not like that. He knows we are not yet perfect, so He sent Holy Spirit to help us out. He is not just one big Daddy sitted on one gold chair throwing people to fire with pleasure. Hebrews 4:15-16 says, 'For we do not have an High Priest that cannot be touched with the feelings of our infirmities; He was tempted at all points yet without sin. Therefore let us then approach God's Throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in time of our need'
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