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Newnas:
Like I said, most of the arguments on this forum are wastes of time. Some arguments last for a week or longer, reaching 3pages or 5. In the end no conclusion.
The reason is just one:

#Sufis and shias have no principles, they are seekers and followers of anarchy. They want to rip the Quran,sunnah and Consensus of the first generations of validity and being used as proofs.
They have their point and opinion already, then they seek evidence for their claim desperately.

By declaring weak hadith reliable or declaring reliable books and hadith weak and unreliable.
or by Interpolating the meaning of verses and reports.

Or fabrication of hadith and stories...

The shias are the worst in these. Their ideology has no authentic claim to any of the first generations of the household except claims and clear lies. That's why they can never mention the chain of their hadith.

The one who has any sense of foresight knows that the the one who has no aim for the truth but is only after supporting his ideology is the last person that a wise person will argue with.

Especially, the shias, lying and fabrication is their religion.

If I respond to any of their claims its just because of my fear that some innocent but ignorant Muslims might be misguided by them not because I see them fit for discussion or debate.

Debating the people of desires is a pure waste of time.

AlBaqir:
# Its either you only want to roll your tongue so that whatever can come out of it or you are even lost not knowing what to say.


# On this thread, all your cobwebs submissions have been swept away by strong winds. I personally have no interest in your usual ranting. Come out from your cocoon of fanaticism and defend where you've been repeatedly challenged.


# I wonder who's talking about Shiism here that made you vomiting pus in your heart that "shia are liar, their Hadith has no chain etc". Those are old tales. Besides, none of them is relevant to the discussion on this thread.


# Please stop begging the challenges.

Newnas:
Imagine this response.

Completely not of knowledge.

A person interpretes a verses with another, this man calls it long winded. Completely absurd.

Is this the kind of Joker and ignoramus I should be engaging. Obviously no!

The people are of three categories:

The knowledgeable: follow him

The ignorant: teach him

The follower of lust and distortions: say what you can then stay away from him

Empiree:
why is it that anytime you brothers opened a thread to proof your position against majority of the Muslims and we come on board to refute you, you always give up when you have no counterclaim?. I have noticed this trend/. You usually put your tale btw your legs and run away

Kaytixy:
you can ask those who have been to hajj how the soldiers use to flog the tijanias who want to go and worship the grave of the prophet. No because of dem they put soldiers to guide the grave of the prophet. Go to Medina and go and be shouting ya tijani make you see as dem go koboko you.

AlBaqir:
# Why won't those soldiers beat them when they are all of wahabi ideologist that believe Nabi is "dead and cannot hear or reply"?!

Indeed Quran as exposed people of such ideology that, "Do not say those who died in Allah's path are dead, Nah! they are ALIVE but you do not perceive"


# Here's Hadith sahih:

" [i]It is attributed to Dawud bin Abu Salih. He says: one day
Marwan came and he saw that a man was lying down with
his mouth turned close to the Prophet’s grave. Then he
(Marwan) said to him, “Do you know what are you doing?”
When he moved towards him, he saw that it was Abu Ayyub
al-Ansari (a Sahabi). (In reply) he said, “ Yes (I know) I
have come to the Messenger of Allah and not to a
stone. I have heard it from the Messenger of God not to cry over religion when its guardian is competent. Yes, shed tears over religion when its guardian is incompetent."

# Was that Sahabi worshipping the grave, o you ignorant fanatic?

Kaytixy:
you can ask those who have been to hajj how the soldiers use to flog the tijanias who want to go and worship the grave of the prophet. No because of dem they put soldiers to guide the grave of the prophet. Go to Medina and go and be shouting ya tijani make you see as dem go koboko you.

[s]
# Why won't those soldiers beat them when they are all of wahabi ideologist that believe Nabi is "dead and cannot hear or reply"?!

Indeed Quran as exposed people of such ideology that, "Do not say those who died in Allah's path are dead, Nah! they are ALIVE but you do not perceive"


# Here's Hadith sahih:

" [i]It is attributed to Dawud bin Abu Salih. He says: one day
Marwan came and he saw that a man was lying down with
his mouth turned close to the Prophet’s grave. Then he
(Marwan) said to him, “Do you know what are you doing?”
When he moved towards him, he saw that it was Abu Ayyub
al-Ansari (a Sahabi). (In reply) he said, “ Yes (I know) I
have come to the Messenger of Allah and not to a
stone. I have heard it from the Messenger of God not to cry over religion when its guardian is competent. Yes, shed tears over religion when its guardian is incompetent."

# Was that Sahabi worshipping the grave, o you ignorant fanatic?

Kaytixy:
you can ask those who have been to hajj how the soldiers use to flog the tijanias who want to go and worship the grave of the prophet. No because of dem they put soldiers to guide the grave of the prophet. Go to Medina and go and be shouting ya tijani make you see as dem go koboko you.

AhluSunnah:
New.nas, which sahabah divide bidah? which sahabah said not all bida is kufru.? which sahabah eat with spoon? which sahabah said khawarij are n0t kufar? which sahabah said u should never take proof of islam urself from quran and hadith but sahabah opinions and scholars opinion? OLODO NI E, sahabahs are always quoting rasul sayings, deeds, actions and quran verses to support their claims. . .p

Empiree:
Quick question. Answer it please. Marriage institution in Islam is sunnah of nabi(saw) bcus he himself married. Whoever doesnt marry amongst the muslims would doing bida' if we are to apply your logic right?. Reason is that for instance, rosul(saw) did not use spoon to eat. if a muslim uses spoon today will constitutes bida hence, all bidat are kufr and all lead to hell, correct?.

Now Ibn Tayimmiya(ra) was your mentor but he did not marry. This means he abandoned the sunnah. Opposite of sunnah is bid'a remember , and according to you bid'a is kufr that leads to hell. Now, Ibn Taymmiya muslim or kafir?

AhluSunnah:
HE IS A MUSLIM.ITS SUFI OF HIS TIME THAT DIDNT LET HIM GET MARRIED, HE IS ALWAYS GETTING LOCKEDUP IN JAIL..Know this,marriage aint for everybody.impotent or w0man who cant bare child shouldnt get married.. egbon, e maa ka tira...go read hadith on marriage.. e fi sufi le..e ye se keferi si ALLAH mo egbon. .o.

AhluSunnah:
HE IS A MUSLIM.ITS SUFI OF HIS TIME THAT DIDNT LET HIM GET MARRIED, HE IS ALWAYS GETTING LOCKEDUP IN JAIL..Know this,marriage aint for everybody.impotent or w0man who cant bare child shouldnt get married.. egbon, e maa ka tira...go read hadith on marriage.. e fi sufi le..e ye se keferi si ALLAH mo egbon. .o.

Empiree:
Why did you give excuse in this case?. Oh you think i dont know you copied this from online?. Thats the excuse they gave. So now, a handicap who has no hands, how do you feed him akamu, stick your fingers in his mouth?. What is Sufism?. Run along.

AhluSunnah:
RASUL SAID EAT WITH 3 FINGERS NOT DRINK WITH 3 FINGERS. . . SINCE AN HANDICAP DO NOT HAVE HANDS. . THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SIN WHATSOEVER FOR HIM. . . so ti ye yin

Empiree:
^^

Nabi(saw) used paper money or not?. If he didnt why do you use it?

Empiree:
^^

Nabi(saw) used paper money or not?. If he didnt why do you use it?

AlBaqir:
# Note, there is nothing you will use to reason with an ignorant fanatic, he will always "beat" you with his experience in ignorance and fanaticism.

# You can see they more in ignorance and fanaticism on Islam section these days. Some of them even photocopied themselves having multiple monikers.

AhluSunnah:
KAFIR. . MUNAFIQ, ZINDIQ, AHLU BIDA, MUKTADIR... IF YOU A SHITE, A SUFI OR ANY OTHER ISLAMIC AFFILIATED SECT, I SWEAR WITH ALLAH WHOSE MY LIFE IS IN HIS HANDS, YOU WILL BURN IN HELL FOREVER.

AhluSunnah:
[s]OLODO NI E. AWON SUFI ORIGINAL GAN DA BIDIA MO. Bidia in islam pertains to islam. . bidia of the world pertains to the world.. 0nly if we have proof that islam goes against a certain bidia of the world we wil comply... for example, mobile phone..mobile phone is bidia of the world... the way u use that mobile ph0ne is what islam is concerned about... m0bile ph0ne is a bidia that has absolutely n0thing to do with islam because its an innovation of the world NOT of the deen. . . so ti ye e? . . .qq[/s]

AlBaqir:
# Em.piree, this comment is one example of experience in ignorance and fanaticism I was talking about.

Empiree:
olodo ni e. Dinar and Durham are mentioned in the Quran and sunnah. This is not worldly matter. You can't pick and choose bcus you fall into this trap. Q3:75

In hadith

Empiree:
he's. PAINED bcus no one supports his foolish mentality

AlBaqir:
# Empiree, this comment is one example of experience in ignorance and fanaticism I was talking about.

AlBaqir:
# Empiree, this comment is one example of experience in ignorance and fanaticism I was talking about.

AhluSunnah:
NO WORRY.. WHEN WE HAVE AMEER MUMIN.. I WIL PERSONALY POINT YOU AND EMPIREE TO HIM SO THAT HE CAN KILL U JUST LIKE SAHABAHS DO KILL KAFIR.... # TO CUT YOUR KAFIR HEAD OFF#

AhluSunnah:
Laughing . . . kin mo wa fe se si oro re bayi o. . laughing . . ok. . is m0ney itself an ibaadah? is because money is mentioned in quran makes it an ibadaah? grade A1+ ni ODO e

AhluSunnah:
KAFIR. . MUNAFIQ, ZINDIQ, AHLU BIDA, MUKTADIR... IF YOU A SHITE, A SUFI OR ANY OTHER ISLAMIC AFFILIATED SECT, I SWEAR WITH ALLAH WHOSE MY LIFE IS IN HIS HANDS, YOU WILL BURN IN HELL FOREVER.