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Time to go study robotics

Fadman4real:
I think it would take some time before A.I becomes a thing in Nigeria. Just as it took us some time before we joined the ICT age, however I think it would be smart to study it now because when it takes a foothold in our economy the early starters stands to benefit a lot.

It would take atleast 60yrs before we have A.I in the world

ariesbull:
just like in the movie, Ex Machina  Demoltion Man    Artificial Intelligence (AI) and Machine to machine are what we will be expecting in  the future! As machines become increasingly capable to to do things without supervision and having the abilities to take on some functions just like humans, AI  has become a branch of ICT that will take over  the ecosystem,Nigeria inclusive. We have seen a lot inroad that the AI has made in the areas of banking and electronic learning. Though, sluggishly , unlike what is applicable in other climes, AI is meant to take over many jobs in the country and productivity will increase. Just like the advent of computers, laptop and other ICT devices displaced the conventional typewriter  with a  typist d the conventional personal assistant with digital assistant , so will AI dislodge people. But, there s nothing to be alarmed, the need  align  the country for this is imperative.

Just like it has been predicted in some of the science fiction movies. As it stands today, the future is here and we have seen machines and computers taking over jobs that was being done by humans. Just like the industrial age,  when machines and industrialization displaced a lot of hands in  farms and factories, today, hands are being displaced in an overwhelming manner.

The substitution of human labour by artificial intelligence and robots is a keenly debated topic. While some claim that a substantial share of jobs is at risk, while others argue that computers and robots will lead to product innovations and hence to unimaginable new occupations. One thing that we must agree is that the AI is here and machines are getting smarter while the humans are getting dumber. The impacts of automation technologies are already being felt throughout the economy. The worldwide number of industrial robots has increased rapidly over the past few years.  The falling prices of robots, which can operate all day without interruption. This has led more efficiency in productions and getting more riskier jobs done without putting any human or animals in a harms way.This can be attributed to the importance of AI  and how it affects our lives.

There is no need to be bothered about job loss here s  has been widely speculated. AI will change the labour landscape the way industrialization changed the way labour and productivity is done. It is already happening, take for instance the average desktop computer, before the invention of the computer, typist was a course of study and a job most people, especially ladies were proud of.  Computers displaced the typist, everybody became a typist, typist lost their jobs and computer programmers, software writers,coders, bloggers, hardware and software engineers and  many other people in the ICT value chain gained jobs. Unlike  during the days of typist, its only the typist, the repairman and maybe the seller of the typewriter had jobs. As it was during those days, so it will be during the time of AI. It is already happening. In the banking industry, banks are reducing their operational  expenditure, staff are laid off and AT and automation has taken over. Today, most ATM  can credit accounts and dispense 24/4,transfers are done via ATM and many other banking duties, thereby  rendering the job of average bank teller redundant. But,efficiency and timeliness come to play with AI, installers,robotics engineers, programmers will gain jobs. Just like the typist of old, some jobs will be extinct, jobs  that risk extinction are; bankers (tellers) some front desk, some teachers, models, in sports (umpires) paralegals and a host of others.

According to Bruegel.org;  "Automated teller machines (ATMs) might have been expected to significantly reduce the number of bank clerks by taking over some of their routine tasks. Indeed, in the USA their average number fell from 20 per branch in 1988 to 13 in 2004. But that also reduced the cost of running a bank branch, allowing banks to open more branches in response to customer demand. The number of urban bank branches rose by 43% over the same period, so the total number of employees increased".

Computers displaced the typist, everybody became a typist, typist lost their jobs and computer programmers, software writers,coders, bloggers, hardware and software engineers and  many other people in the ICT value chain gained jobs. Unlike  during the days of typist, its only the typist, the repairman and maybe the seller of the typewriter had jobs.

In the legal field, the report went further to state that "The introduction of software capable of analysing large volumes of legal documents reduced the cost of search but increased demand for it. As a result, the number of legal clerks (who before the implementation of the software had to search for the legal documents manually in a more time consuming way) increased by 1.1% on average per year between 2000 and 2013 instead of decreasing due to the displacement effect."



The authors conclude that one additional robot per thousand workers reduces the US employment-to-population ratio by about 0.18-0.34% and wages by 0.25-0.5%. The industry most affected by automation is manufacturing. However, interestingly, they only find a weak correlation between the increase of industrial robots and the decline of routine jobs. Will machine to machine and artificial intelligence displace jobs ? The answer is yes. But, a whole lot of jobs would be created, it is left for labour to evolve to suit the new narrative. As Darwin stated in his evolution theory, the fittest and the most adaptable will survive.





https://etimes.com.ng/artificial-intelligence-nigerians-shouldnt-fear-loss-jobs-automation/

Oh, yeah! Brandish the good side. Suck in the people. Play on their intelligence. Give them pleasure. Then, when it's too late, unleash the hidden bad and ugly.

The increasing refining and perfecting of AI science and technology can and will only lead ultimately to human subjugation and slavery. Pre-apocalyptic, it is paving the way to the emergence of the Beast.

How did I know? My Bible tells me so! That's why my Lord and Master, Jesus, told me to 'watch and pray' and to be sober and vigilant in these end times. He says many will be deceived by Satan, the Father of Lies (deception) and all liars (deceivers). It all started in the Garden of Eden, but will end very soon faster than we think.

Diamonddris:
A celebrity and a friend

Caption this class.

There is AC behind them. A lot on ugly girls, dull teacher making that boy sleep at his friend's shoulder, people standing to write, a single guy who is full on himself by disgracing his bleached face and quarter to bald hair taking selfie

Booyakasha:
you're wrong.. Google about: Deep Learning Machine Learning

I guess u no notin abt A.I.

edeXede:


Fear ke.. As a cursed nation, we can never use AI.. It is not a curse

Even The U.S don't have A.I. it is just in movies and cartoons in would take atleast 60yrs to be real

The future is going to be tough somehow with our present populations, AI advantages is that corruption will reduce and the world government and their selfish politics will not like this, and it might lead to internet world war

elfico:
I beg to differ. Machines are now able to consume models, analyze data and make near accurate predictions. For example, Cortana correctly predicted 15 out of 16 world cup matches. That's not just a bunch of if...else statements. Google AlphaGo defeated the best Go player in world. The machine won the first three of five games between them. As the person below said, Google Machine Learning and Deep Learning

If its not if else statements, then what is it?

The machine learns as it is instructed

Independent of man, the machine cannot give itself any instruction. Machine learning is an apt misnomer. Machine imitation would be just fine. Everything a machine does is imitation. Machines excel in one area only: speed

okay

This should not be a matter for fear. If we have a God fearing government Tax relief for companies should be based on a system that place premium on number of people you employ as incentive. If you employ only robots you get zero incentive and additional penalty for cheating and able to produce 24 -7 because you don't need shifts. Every change in life requires a corresponding reaction to balance the change. Not wanting always to maintain a status quo without corresponding need to ensure stability. which is also the bane in Nigeria and Hallmark of a leadership bereft of cognitive idea and progressive judgement and purposefulness.

TheLordIsGr8:
Sorry to burst your bubble. There's no such thing as [b]Artificial Intelligence. Its all just a bunch of if...else blocks... So-called AI does exactly what a real intelligence tells it to do.

True!!

Booyakasha:
you're wrong.. Google about:
Deep Learning
Machine Learning

he is right bro... Its all about " if" "then" "else"

AI will later decide that humans are a waste of resources

EntMirror:
The battle is intense and guess what, I find it interesting

20 years from now, I think the birth of AI will become reality. I won't like to miss such opportunity to the world. Imagine what you can do with these sophisticated bots that can self-learn. They can read and behave just like humans... Wow.. Bring it on..

As for job lost, it's evident. Let's be our own boss now.. If not for you, for your generation to come. The greatest gift we can ever give to our children is to give them a headstart in life. Imagine what your life will be like if your dad was a millionaire. Now give that to your kids and stop telling me that everyone can't have a business or be an entrepreneur.

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You guys are far behind on development in AI tech. AI is a threat to humanity, Elon musk was right all this while. Facebook was forced to shut down their AI robots after they adopted their unique language (that scientists could not comprehend) to interact amongst themselves and execute tasks. Do more research.

TheLordIsGr8:
Sorry to burst your bubble. There's no such thing as Artificial Intelligence. Its all just a bunch of if...else blocks... So-called AI does exactly what a real intelligence tells it to do.

You missed it here. Your views on AI is outmoded.It is evident you know little about the powers of computing and AI to be specific. AI is all graciously filled with predicate and propositional logics held of high esteem to low degree logics such as if and else blocks. I still laugh at that though, read more on logics and computing and more light shall be shed on the subject matter.

shalomj:
You missed it here. Your views on AI is outmoded.It is evident you know little about the powers of computing and AI to be specific. AI is all graciously filled with predicate and propositional logics held of high esteem to low degree logics such as if and else blocks. I still laugh at that though, read more on logics and computing and more light shall be shed on the subject matter.

And the AI invented logic. Good one.

Like I said earlier. Artificial Intelligence is a misnomer. Artificial Imitation is more like it.

Are you joking

Nigerians already import intelligence and its citizens lose jobs everyday, automatically!
Most jobs requiring higher intelligence is done by expats (you called them expatriates): indians, chinese, lebanese and other low level non-white people!

machines or not, Nigerian citizens lack the commonsense (not education) to perform certain jobs!

win2kwire:
Are you joking

Nigerians already import intelligence and its citizens lose jobs everyday, automatically!
Most jobs requiring higher intelligence is done by expats (you called them expatriates): indians, chinese, lebanese and other low level non-white people!

machines or not, Nigerian citizens lack the commonsense (not education) to perform certain jobs!

Actually its not because Nigerians aren't intelligent enough to do those jobs. I agree that some expatriates are better trained and have more experience in those fields. That fact has nothing whatsoever to do with intelligence. Its just an accident of location for them. But that doesn't tell the whole story. If you follow the money and you'll find out why they outsource most of those jobs.

TheLordIsGr8:
If its not if else statements, then what is it?

The machine learns as it is instructed

Independent of man, the machine cannot give itself any instruction. Machine learning is an apt misnomer. Machine imitation would be just fine. Everything a machine does is imitation. Machines excel in one area only: speed

Not true, you are far behind in this area. AI have the capacity to self develop, and there lies the danger.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/08/01/facebook-shuts-robots-invent-language/

Really? So robots were able to adopt their own unique language? Does that mean they have consciousness? This is sounding like sci-fi. I will do more research bro.. Thanks....

1freshdude:
You guys are far behind on development in AI tech. AI is a threat to humanity, Elon musk was right all this while. Facebook was forced to shut down their AI robots after they adopted their unique language (that scientists could not comprehend) to interact amongst themselves and execute tasks. Do more research.

EntMirror:
Really? So robots were able to adopt their own unique language? Does that mean they have consciousness? This is sounding like sci-fi. I will do more research bro.. Thanks....

Its crazier than you think. Here is the link below, this guys would turn humans to slaves.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/08/01/facebook-shuts-robots-invent-language/

ransomeware:
Caption this class.

There is AC behind them. A lot on ugly girls, dull teacher making that boy sleep at his friend's shoulder, people standing to write, a single guy who is full on himself by disgracing his bleached face and quarter to bald hair taking selfie

Hahahhahaha.........u worry die....


R u jealous?......hahahahaha

TheLordIsGr8:
Actually its not because Nigerians aren't intelligent enough to do those jobs. I agree that some expatriates are better trained and have more experience in those fields. That fact has nothing whatsoever to do with intelligence. Its just an accident of location for them. But that doesn't tell the whole story. If you follow the money and you'll find out why they outsource most of those jobs.

The difference between a pro and amateur is training. Nigerians are not innately dull, they are just not trained to do stuffs. Go to the U.S, Germany and U.K among others and see black people holding things down. Training is lacking because the infrastructures for training are not there.

TheLordIsGr8:
Actually its not because Nigerians aren't intelligent enough to do those jobs. I agree that some expatriates are better trained and have more experience in those fields. That fact has nothing whatsoever to do with intelligence. Its just an accident of location for them. But that doesn't tell the whole story. If you follow the money and you'll find out why they outsource most of those jobs.

Well the problem of Nigeria has always been a refusal (or mentality to understand) the problems, as such solutions cannot be sought - you prove the point , again and again!

Nigerians are educated people, they have more degrees per capita than most blacks in the rest of the world but many Nigerians lack commonsense and intelligence! They may study in many fields and while there are those who become highly celebrated the majority fail to harness their brains to fully utilize the education in a commonsense way!

Religion, culture, mentality and dated practices renders most Nigerian education dead on arrival!

I continue to chat with Nigerian medical doctors, engineers, scientists, everyday and while they understand the theoretical part of their subjects their mentality (Nigerian diluted) forms their constructive thoughts and so it is easy for a Chinese kid to make nonsense of their education in 5 minutes.

In many interviews of Nigerians with very high degrees and education their local mentality kicked in to render them less employable which is why almost all multinational companies in Nigeria employ from abroad and from Nigerians who live abroad or have studied abroad!

1freshdude:
Its crazier than you think. Here is the link below, this guys would turn humans to slaves.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/08/01/facebook-shuts-robots-invent-language/

WOW WOW WOW WOW... UNBELIEVABLE.. Thanks for sharing this link bro. I've learnt something today. Thought it can only happen in movies.. Never knew it's already taking place in the Real World..

Ikio:
It would take atleast 60yrs before we have A.I in the world

What do you mean by 60years? Adidas is rolling out robots that make shoes on the spot in the next 2years in Germany. Come to Siemens and see AI already in action.

Job lost to robotic technology is imminent.

So, getting ready for doom's day (you are fired!) shld be your nxt plan.

Be part of the revolution and blend in on time instead of taking to regrets.

To learn and know more on the jobs that are at higher risks of automation.

Get it here.
https://www.nairaland.com/3841298/know-job-taken-robots

1freshdude:
Not true, you are far behind in this area. AI have the capacity to self develop, and there lies the danger./

Whatever development any AI(mitation) may manage to achieve was programmed into it by a Real Intelligence or introduced by a bug or a hack.
If an AI(mitation) ever goes rogue it would be no different than your windows 10 crashing, not because it has "decided" to go rogue.

1freshdude:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2017/08/01/facebook-shuts-robots-invent-language/

Two malfunctioning piece of software "invents" a language? Hahahahahahaha. This one ought to be in the guinness book of records for joke of the year.
Imagine if someone had asserted that a group of monkeys chatting had "invented" a language. He/She will be laughed to scorn. But because its coming from "almighty" FB its suddenly possible that two piece of software "crashing" were actually "inventing" a language.

Further comments on the matter
Few days ago I read about some scientists who were working on designing their "own" DNA, complete with specific traits. These are most likely the same set of people who vehemently deny intelligent design. Assume their experiment works out will it prove intelligent design or evolution?

Out of nothing, nothing comes. If AI(mitation) can become really "independent" then its possible that man's intelligence is also "independent" of any external input. Then man will be the measure of all things. That is the godlessness they've been trying to sell. If any AI(mitation) will have independence then it has to be given, not taken.

This is social engineering people. Not science.

win2kwire:
Well the problem of Nigeria has always been a refusal (or mentality to understand) the problems, as such solutions cannot be sought - you prove the point , again and again!

Nigerians are educated people, they have more degrees per capita than most blacks in the rest of the world but many Nigerians lack commonsense and intelligence! They may study in many fields and while there are those who become highly celebrated the majority fail to harness their brains to fully utilize the education in a commonsense way!

Religion, culture, mentality and dated practices renders most Nigerian education dead on arrival!

I continue to chat with Nigerian medical doctors, engineers, scientists, everyday and while they understand the theoretical part of their subjects their mentality (Nigerian diluted) forms their constructive thoughts and so it is easy for a Chinese kid to make nonsense of their education in 5 minutes.

In many interviews of Nigerians with very high degrees and education their local mentality kicked in to render them less employable which is why almost all multinational companies in Nigeria employ from abroad and from Nigerians who live abroad or have studied abroad!

Bro I'm really struggling to get your point on this one.

Please do well to give a summary.


Btw, How do I win that your 2k by wire? Is the k in Naira or in Dollars? Thanks

abumeinben:
Still contemplating on which area of Computer Science to flip to for my MSc.

Any help here?

go the coding way, they are behind everything even including the AI machines

blaise00700:
We don't even have a president and someone is talking about artificial intelligence. Jeez!!!

We have a President, he went to London, to see the queen.

ok

oluwasuski:
There is a reason the Human brain isn't able to utilise itself hundred percent, the evolution of AI was always going to surprise it's creators, there must always be a fail switch to shut It down anytime needed because it evolves too fast for Humans to catch up .

Kill switch you say? AI will evolve to a level that will change its own programming language, how do you beat that? the feud between facebook founder n tesla founder is enough proof that we need to worry about AI.