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Ruling On Raping by Lukgaf(m): 3:25am On Aug 04, 2017
Praise be to Allaah.
The Arabic word ightisaab refers to taking something wrongfully by force. It is now used exclusively to refer to transgression against the honour of women by force (rape).
This is an abhorrent crime that is forbidden in all religions and in the minds of all wise people and those who are possessed of sound human nature. All earthly systems and laws regard this action as abhorrent and impose the strictest penalties on it, except a few states which waive the punishment if the rapist marries his victim! This is indicative of a distorted mind let alone a lack of religious commitment on the part of those who challenge Allaah in making laws. We do not know of any love or compassion that could exist between the aggressor and his victim, especially since the pain of rape cannot be erased with the passage of time – as it is said. Hence many victims of rape have attempted to commit suicide and many of them have succeeded, The failure of these marriages is proven and they are accompanied by nothing but humiliation and suffering for the woman.
Islam has a clear stance which states that this repugnant action is haraam and imposes a deterrent punishment on the one who commits it.
Islam closes the door to the criminal who wants to commit this crime. Western studies have shown that most rapists are already criminals who commit their crimes under the influence of alcohol and drugs, and they take advantage of the fact that their victims are walking alone in isolated places, or staying in the house alone. These studies also show that what the criminals watch on the media and the semi-naked styles of dress in which women go out, also lead to the commission of this reprehensible crime.
The laws of Islam came to protect women's honour and modesty. Islam forbids women to wear clothes that are not modest and to travel without a mahram; it forbids a woman to shake hands with a non-mahram man. Islam encourages young men and women to marry early, and many other rulings which close the door to rape. Hence it comes as no surprise when we hear or read that most of these crimes occur in permissive societies which are looked up to by some Muslims as examples of civilization and refinement! In America – for example – International Amnesty stated in a 2004 report entitled “Stop Violence Against Women” that every 90 seconds a woman was raped during that year. What kind of life are these people living? What refinement and civilization do they want the Muslim women to take part in?
The punishment for rape in Islam is same as the punishment for zina, which is stoning if the perpetrator is married, and one hundred lashes and banishment for one year if he is not married.
Some scholars also say that he is required to pay a mahr to the woman.
Imam Maalik (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
In our view the man who rapes a woman, whether she is a virgin or not, if she is a free woman he must pay a “dowry” like that of her peers, and if she is a slave he must pay whatever has been detracted from her value. The punishment is to be carried out on the rapist and there is no punishment for the woman who has been raped, whatever the case. End quote.
Al-Muwatta’ , 2/734
Shaykh Salmaan al-Baaji (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
In the case of a woman who is forced (raped): if she is a free woman, the one who forced her must pay her a “dowry” like that of her peers, and the hadd punishment is to be carried out on him. This is the view of al-Shaafa’i, and it is the view of al-Layth, and it was also narrated from ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib (may Allaah be pleased with him).
Abu Haneefah and al-Thawri said: the hadd punishment is to be carried out on him but he is not obliged to pay the “dowry”.
The evidence for what we say is that the hadd punishment and the “dowry” are two rights, one of which is the right of Allaah and the other is the right of the other person. So they may be combined, as in the case of a thief whose hand is cut off and he is required to return the stolen goods. End quote.
Al-Muntaha Sharh al-Muwatta’ , 5/268, 269
Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
The scholars are unanimously agreed that the rapist is to be subjected to the hadd punishment if there is clear evidence against him that he deserves the hadd punishment, or if he admits to that. Otherwise, he is to be punished (i.e., if there is no proof that the hadd punishment for zina may be carried out against him because he does not confess, and there are not four witnesses, then the judge may punish him and stipulate a punishment that will deter him and others like him). There is no punishment for the woman if it is true that he forced her and overpowered her, which may be proven by her screaming and shouting for help. End quote.
Al-Istidhkaar , 7/146
Secondly:
The rapist is subject to the hadd punishment for zina, even if the rape was not carried out at knife-point or gun-point. If the use of a weapon was threatened, then he is a muhaarib, and is to be subjected to the hadd punishment described in the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“The recompense of those who wage war against Allaah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter”
[al-Maaidah 5:33]
So the judge has the choice of the four punishments mentioned in this verse, and may choose whichever he thinks is most suitable to attain the objective, which is to spread peace and security in society, and ward off evildoers and aggressors.

https://islamqa.info/en/72338

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Re: Ruling On Raping by ngeneukwuewuGOAT: 9:27am On Aug 04, 2017
I AM AGAINST RAPE BUT WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MARRYING AN UNDERAGE GIRL WHOSE SEXUAL ORGANS NOT FULLY DEVELOPED AND RAPING


WHAT ABOUT THE SPOILS FROM WAR THAT WAS CONVERTED TO THE PROPHETS INHERITANCE INCLUDING WOMEN ALREADY MARRIED TO OTHER MEN

UP NORTH FOR EXAMPLE, CHILDREN OF THE RICH DRESSED TO KILL BUT OF THE POOR ARE COMPELLED TO WEAR A LONG MASQURADE-LIKE TOGA ALL IN THE NAME OF RELIGIOUS COMFORMITY.

IS THIS A FAIR RELIGION

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Re: Ruling On Raping by amilak: 9:37am On Aug 04, 2017
Alhamdullilah
Re: Ruling On Raping by Kebreal92(m): 9:40am On Aug 04, 2017
MAY ALLAH REWARD YOU ABUNDANTLY. AMIN
Re: Ruling On Raping by Sterope(f): 9:41am On Aug 04, 2017
@lukgaf

1) Most rape victims were raped by people closed to them like their mahram for starters.cheesy (Isn't that interesting?) Don't ever use that to justify or blame rape victims again. It speaks to how little you know of rape.

2) I don't know what goes on with these people that call themselves Islamic scholars but it is BS to differentiate between a free woman or a slave woman. Or are they trying to say that slavery is normal or justifiable in Islam or that her pains is lesser to that of a free woman. I think you should bin his opinion. It is trash. A woman is a woman. We should not try to lessen one woman's suffering because of her status which shouldn't be in the first place.

And no marriage will not reduce incidence of rape and denial of conjugal rights is also not a reason. I think we need more scholars who have taken time to study the psychology of rape to talk about this. These scholars are simply not fit to give an opinion on this.

quote]Islam forbids women to wear clothes that are not modest and to travel without a mahram; it forbids a woman to shake hands with a non-mahram man. Islam encourages young men and women to marry early, and many other rulings which close the door to rape[/quote]

What dowry if I may ask? Is that the reason stupid countries like Morocco forces their daughters to marry their rapists?

Also what value? Is she an animal or what? I understand that men are not the common victims. The more reason why they shouldn't be talking about it at all. They should not be talking about what they don't understand.

In our view the man who rapes a woman, whether she is a virgin or not, if she is a free woman he must pay a “dowry” like that of her peers, and if she is a slave he must pay whatever has been detracted from her value. The punishment is to be carried out on the rapist and there is no punishment for the woman who has been raped, whatever the case.



3) We all know the punishment for adultery. It is very severe. Apparently, if the punishment for a consensual act can be severe, it is only logical for a non-consensual act to be leaning towards a capital punishment or the capital punishment.


There is a reason I am selective when it comes to these people and islamqa. We definitely need more female scholars.

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Re: Ruling On Raping by Kebreal92(m): 9:42am On Aug 04, 2017
I beg all My brothers and Sisters here to please ignore all the negative comments from IPOB members.
may Allah reward U as u do that. Amin

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Re: Ruling On Raping by seegi(m): 10:10am On Aug 04, 2017
ngeneukwuewuGOAT:
I AM AGAINST RAPE BUT WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MARRYING AN UNDERAGE GIRL WHOSE SEXUAL ORGANS NOT FULLY DEVELOPED AND RAPING


WHAT ABOUT THE SPOILS FROM WAR THAT WAS CONVERTED TO THE PROPHETS INHERITANCE INCLUDING WOMEN ALREADY MARRIED TO OTHER MEN

UP NORTH FOR EXAMPLE, CHILDREN OF THE RICH DRESSED TO KILL BUT OF THE POOR ARE COMPELLED TO WEAR A LONG MASQURADE-LIKE TOGA ALL IN THE NAME OF RELIGIOUS COMFORMITY.

IS THIS A FAIR RELIGION

Wat is dis one saying

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Re: Ruling On Raping by mokoshalb(m): 10:15am On Aug 04, 2017
ngeneukwuewuGOAT:
I AM AGAINST RAPE BUT WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MARRYING AN UNDERAGE GIRL WHOSE SEXUAL ORGANS NOT FULLY DEVELOPED AND RAPING


WHAT ABOUT THE SPOILS FROM WAR THAT WAS CONVERTED TO THE PROPHETS INHERITANCE INCLUDING WOMEN ALREADY MARRIED TO OTHER MEN

UP NORTH FOR EXAMPLE, CHILDREN OF THE RICH DRESSED TO KILL BUT OF THE POOR ARE COMPELLED TO WEAR A LONG MASQURADE-LIKE TOGA ALL IN THE NAME OF RELIGIOUS COMFORMITY.

IS THIS A FAIR RELIGION
Do you ever wonder why there are so many religions out there but the only religion people work so hard to prove wrong and to oppose is Islam? There are a lot of other religions which may seem wrong, and illogical too but from what I see, Islam receives the most opposition.

The more you want to prove it wrong, the more right it is, isn't it? You watch Islamic videos even though you're not a muslim - and then you put comments to prove Islam wrong. What's your point

You're not a muslim, but you read Quran, trying to prove Islam wrong. What's your point?
You comment on other people's comments, trying to prove their wrong. What's your point?

Why do you have to work so hard to prove Islam wrong? You can just walk away and be like, "OK whatever you know I'm just going to go on with my life. I can just leave muslims as they are, just like how I don't try to prove other buddhists or christians wrong." But you didn't do that, do you? You didn't leave muslims as they are. You go on every Islamic videos on Facebook/ YouTube and work hard to prove the videos wrong. You go on each comments, and work hard to prove people wrong. What's your point?

Why can't you leave Islam as it is?
Why can't you leave muslims as they are?
Why can't you leave us alone?
Why do you have to work so hard to PROVE ISLAM WRONG?

Because, the truth is, the problem lies in YOURSELF.
There is that little voice inside your head, whispering to you, "Islam sounds like a true religion..." but you hated that voice! You clenched your fists, gritted your teeth, and denied it! You watched Islamic videos and you were close to be convinced, but you shake your head, clearing the images away. You read Islamic comments, and you were close to be convinced, but you bit your lip and yelled, "No!".

The problem lies in yourself. YOU WANT TO PROVE ISLAM WRONG BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE CONVINCED THAT ISLAM /IS/ THE TRUE RELIGION. Your ego, man. Your ego..!

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Re: Ruling On Raping by trigonometry: 10:22am On Aug 04, 2017
mokoshalb:

Do you ever wonder why there are so many religions out there but the only religion people work so hard to prove wrong and to oppose is Islam? There are a lot of other religions which may seem wrong, and illogical too but from what I see, Islam receives the most opposition.

The more you want to prove it wrong, the more right it is, isn't it? You watch Islamic videos even though you're not a muslim - and then you put comments to prove Islam wrong. What's your point

You're not a muslim, but you read Quran, trying to prove Islam wrong. What's your point?
You comment on other people's comments, trying to prove their wrong. What's your point?

Why do you have to work so hard to prove Islam wrong? You can just walk away and be like, "OK whatever you know I'm just going to go on with my life. I can just leave muslims as they are, just like how I don't try to prove other buddhists or christians wrong." But you didn't do that, do you? You didn't leave muslims as they are. You go on every Islamic videos on Facebook/ YouTube and work hard to prove the videos wrong. You go on each comments, and work hard to prove people wrong. What's your point?

Why can't you leave Islam as it is?
Why can't you leave muslims as they are?
Why can't you leave us alone?
Why do you have to work so hard to PROVE ISLAM WRONG?

Because, the truth is, the problem lies in YOURSELF.
There is that little voice inside your head, whispering to you, "Islam sounds like a true religion..." but you hated that voice! You clenched your fists, gritted your teeth, and denied it! You watched Islamic videos and you were close to be convinced, but you shake your head, clearing the images away. You read Islamic comments, and you were close to be convinced, but you bit your lip and yelled, "No!".

The problem lies in yourself. YOU WANT TO PROVE ISLAM WRONG BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE CONVINCED THAT ISLAM /IS/ THE TRUE RELIGION. Your ego, man. Your ego..!
This reply just made my day..............what is wrong with them is just a case of "cognitive dissonance"

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Re: Ruling On Raping by uyplus(m): 10:23am On Aug 04, 2017
mokoshalb:

Do you ever wonder why there are so many religions out there but the only religion people work so hard to prove wrong and to oppose is Islam? There are a lot of other religions which may seem wrong, and illogical too but from what I see, Islam receives the most opposition.

The more you want to prove it wrong, the more right it is, isn't it? You watch Islamic videos even though you're not a muslim - and then you put comments to prove Islam wrong. What's your point

You're not a muslim, but you read Quran, trying to prove Islam wrong. What's your point?
You comment on other people's comments, trying to prove their wrong. What's your point?

Why do you have to work so hard to prove Islam wrong? You can just walk away and be like, "OK whatever you know I'm just going to go on with my life. I can just leave muslims as they are, just like how I don't try to prove other buddhists or christians wrong." But you didn't do that, do you? You didn't leave muslims as they are. You go on every Islamic videos on Facebook/ YouTube and work hard to prove the videos wrong. You go on each comments, and work hard to prove people wrong. What's your point?

Why can't you leave Islam as it is?
Why can't you leave muslims as they are?
Why can't you leave us alone?
Why do you have to work so hard to PROVE ISLAM WRONG?

Because, the truth is, the problem lies in YOURSELF.
There is that little voice inside your head, whispering to you, "Islam sounds like a true religion..." but you hated that voice! You clenched your fists, gritted your teeth, and denied it! You watched Islamic videos and you were close to be convinced, but you shake your head, clearing the images away. You read Islamic comments, and you were close to be convinced, but you bit your lip and yelled, "No!".

The problem lies in yourself. YOU WANT TO PROVE ISLAM WRONG BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE CONVINCED THAT ISLAM /IS/ THE TRUE RELIGION. Your ego, man. Your ego..!

Islam true?? You must be kidding me. Can't you see the islamic wars fought in the middle east? Young girls getting wedded off at an early age isn't cultural but purely islamic. Its happening all over the middle east. Christianity is bliss. So much tranquillity! Know Jesus and have a personal relationship with him. Jesus isn't the prophet isa recorded in the quran, just so you know.

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Re: Ruling On Raping by Nobody: 10:35am On Aug 04, 2017
mokoshalb:

Do you ever wonder why there are so many religions out there but the only religion people work so hard to prove wrong and to oppose is Islam? There are a lot of other religions which may seem wrong, and illogical too but from what I see, Islam receives the most opposition.

The more you want to prove it wrong, the more right it is, isn't it? You watch Islamic videos even though you're not a muslim - and then you put comments to prove Islam wrong. What's your point

You're not a muslim, but you read Quran, trying to prove Islam wrong. What's your point?
You comment on other people's comments, trying to prove their wrong. What's your point?

Why do you have to work so hard to prove Islam wrong? You can just walk away and be like, "OK whatever you know I'm just going to go on with my life. I can just leave muslims as they are, just like how I don't try to prove other buddhists or christians wrong." But you didn't do that, do you? You didn't leave muslims as they are. You go on every Islamic videos on Facebook/ YouTube and work hard to prove the videos wrong. You go on each comments, and work hard to prove people wrong. What's your point?

Why can't you leave Islam as it is?
Why can't you leave muslims as they are?
Why can't you leave us alone?
Why do you have to work so hard to PROVE ISLAM WRONG?

Because, the truth is, the problem lies in YOURSELF.
There is that little voice inside your head, whispering to you, "Islam sounds like a true religion..." but you hated that voice! You clenched your fists, gritted your teeth, and denied it! You watched Islamic videos and you were close to be convinced, but you shake your head, clearing the images away. You read Islamic comments, and you were close to be convinced, but you bit your lip and yelled, "No!".

The problem lies in yourself. YOU WANT TO PROVE ISLAM WRONG BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE CONVINCED THAT ISLAM /IS/ THE TRUE RELIGION. Your ego, man. Your ego..!

Thank you my man

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Re: Ruling On Raping by SweetyZinta(f): 10:39am On Aug 04, 2017
Kebreal92:
I beg all My brothers and Sisters here to please ignore all the negative comments from IPOB members.
may Allah reward U as u do that. Amin

i agree with you. the hatred is real! i cant believe people will agree to be muslims only to be granted access to a thread to spew rubbish. the matter they lack knowledge to address.

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Re: Ruling On Raping by notttty(m): 11:09am On Aug 04, 2017
Sterope:
@lukgaf

1) Most rape victims were raped by people closed to them like their mahram for starters.cheesy (Isn't that interesting?) Don't ever use that to justify or blame rape victims again. It speaks to how little you know of rape.

2) I don't know what goes on with these people that call themselves Islamic scholars but it is BS to differentiate between a free woman or a slave woman. Or are they trying to say that slavery is normal or justifiable in Islam or that her pains is lesser to that of a free woman. I think you should bin his opinion. It is trash. A woman is a woman. We should not try to lessen one woman's suffering because of her status which shouldn't be in the first place.

And no marriage will not reduce incidence of rape and denial of conjugal rights is also not a reason. I think we need more scholars who have taken time to study the psychology of rape to talk about this. These scholars are simply not fit to give an opinion on this.

quote]Islam forbids women to wear clothes that are not modest and to travel without a mahram; it forbids a woman to shake hands with a non-mahram man. Islam encourages young men and women to marry early, and many other rulings which close the door to rape

What dowry if I may ask? Is that the reason stupid countries like Morocco forces their daughters to marry their rapists?

Also what value? Is she an animal or what? I understand that men are not the common victims. The more reason why they shouldn't be talking about it at all. They should not be talking about what they don't understand.

In our view the man who rapes a woman, whether she is a virgin or not, if she is a free woman he must pay a “dowry” like that of her peers, and if she is a slave he must pay whatever has been detracted from her value. The punishment is to be carried out on the rapist and there is no punishment for the woman who has been raped, whatever the case.



3) We all know the punishment for adultery. It is very severe. Apparently, if the punishment for a consensual act can be severe, it is only logical for a non-consensual act to be leaning towards a capital punishment or the capital punishment.


There is a reason I am selective when it comes to these people and islamqa. We definitely need more female scholars.



Will like us to make contact Inshallah.. . I can't put what I will like to discuss here. (not asking u out) lessons we need to teach together. Thanks
Re: Ruling On Raping by mukhtara446(m): 11:11am On Aug 04, 2017
ngeneukwuewuGOAT:
I AM AGAINST RAPE BUT WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MARRYING AN UNDERAGE GIRL WHOSE SEXUAL ORGANS NOT FULLY DEVELOPED AND RAPING


WHAT ABOUT THE SPOILS FROM WAR THAT WAS CONVERTED TO THE PROPHETS INHERITANCE INCLUDING WOMEN ALREADY MARRIED TO OTHER MEN

UP NORTH FOR EXAMPLE, CHILDREN OF THE RICH DRESSED TO KILL BUT OF THE POOR ARE COMPELLED TO WEAR A LONG MASQURADE-LIKE TOGA ALL IN THE NAME OF RELIGIOUS COMFORMITY.

IS THIS A FAIR RELIGION
My friend regarding marrying under age Islam is the only (Deen) Way of life that in its holy book stated that you should not married a Girl, that's not fully mature. If you don't know history go check it up. if you are captured as a spoils of war you are subjected to be Slave you have no right you are property. A Muslim dressed to pleased the Most high not anyone. Rich or Poor it's up to you to submitted your will.

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Re: Ruling On Raping by Sterope(f): 11:21am On Aug 04, 2017
I hope it is not about trying to change my mind on this subject matter

notttty:

Will like us to make contact Inshallah.. . I can't put what I will like to discuss here. (not asking u out) lessons we need to teach together. Thanks
Re: Ruling On Raping by Sterope(f): 11:24am On Aug 04, 2017
Slavery was of then not now.


mukhtara446:
My friend regarding marrying under age Islam is the only (Deen) Way of life that in its holy book stated that you should not married a Girl, that's not fully mature. If you don't know history go check it up. if you are captured as a spoils of war you are subjected to be Slave you have no right you are property. A Muslim dressed to pleased the Most high not anyone. Rich or Poor it's up to you to submitted your will.
Re: Ruling On Raping by Ayaba03(f): 11:29am On Aug 04, 2017
mokoshalb:

Do you ever wonder why there are so many religions out there but the only religion people work so hard to prove wrong and to oppose is Islam? There are a lot of other religions which may seem wrong, and illogical too but from what I see, Islam receives the most opposition.

The more you want to prove it wrong, the more right it is, isn't it? You watch Islamic videos even though you're not a muslim - and then you put comments to prove Islam wrong. What's your point

You're not a muslim, but you read Quran, trying to prove Islam wrong. What's your point?
You comment on other people's comments, trying to prove their wrong. What's your point?

Why do you have to work so hard to prove Islam wrong? You can just walk away and be like, "OK whatever you know I'm just going to go on with my life. I can just leave muslims as they are, just like how I don't try to prove other buddhists or christians wrong." But you didn't do that, do you? You didn't leave muslims as they are. You go on every Islamic videos on Facebook/ YouTube and work hard to prove the videos wrong. You go on each comments, and work hard to prove people wrong. What's your point?

Why can't you leave Islam as it is?
Why can't you leave muslims as they are?
Why can't you leave us alone?
Why do you have to work so hard to PROVE ISLAM WRONG?

Because, the truth is, the problem lies in YOURSELF.
There is that little voice inside your head, whispering to you, "Islam sounds like a true religion..." but you hated that voice! You clenched your fists, gritted your teeth, and denied it! You watched Islamic videos and you were close to be convinced, but you shake your head, clearing the images away. You read Islamic comments, and you were close to be convinced, but you bit your lip and yelled, "No!".

The problem lies in yourself. YOU WANT TO PROVE ISLAM WRONG BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE CONVINCED THAT ISLAM /IS/ THE TRUE RELIGION. Your ego, man. Your ego..!
waooo, jazakumullahu khaera. You just put my thoughts in words.

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Re: Ruling On Raping by Kaytixy: 11:42am On Aug 04, 2017
Sterope:
@lukgaf

1) Most rape victims were raped by people closed to them like their mahram for starters.cheesy (Isn't that interesting?) Don't ever use that to justify or blame rape victims again. It speaks to how little you know of rape.

2) I don't know what goes on with these people that call themselves Islamic scholars but it is BS to differentiate between a free woman or a slave woman. Or are they trying to say that slavery is normal or justifiable in Islam or that her pains is lesser to that of a free woman. I think you should bin his opinion. It is trash. A woman is a woman. We should not try to lessen one woman's suffering because of her status which shouldn't be in the first place.

And no marriage will not reduce incidence of rape and denial of conjugal rights is also not a reason. I think we need more scholars who have taken time to study the psychology of rape to talk about this. These scholars are simply not fit to give an opinion on this.

quote]Islam forbids women to wear clothes that are not modest and to travel without a mahram; it forbids a woman to shake hands with a non-mahram man. Islam encourages young men and women to marry early, and many other rulings which close the door to rape

What dowry if I may ask? Is that the reason stupid countries like Morocco forces their daughters to marry their rapists?

Also what value? Is she an animal or what? I understand that men are not the common victims. The more reason why they shouldn't be talking about it at all. They should not be talking about what they don't understand.

In our view the man who rapes a woman, whether she is a virgin or not, if she is a free woman he must pay a “dowry” like that of her peers, and if she is a slave he must pay whatever has been detracted from her value. The punishment is to be carried out on the rapist and there is no punishment for the woman who has been raped, whatever the case.



3) We all know the punishment for adultery. It is very severe. Apparently, if the punishment for a consensual act can be severe, it is only logical for a non-consensual act to be leaning towards a capital punishment or the capital punishment.


There is a reason I am selective when it comes to these people and islamqa. We definitely need more female scholars.



your first statement is a typical and a capital LIE. I have read about cases of rape and I hardly find any that says it was done by Their mahram. Except that you don't know the meaning of the word mahram. You talk like you are the only one reading about rape cases in Nigeria and outside.
Re: Ruling On Raping by shockwave(m): 11:43am On Aug 04, 2017
mokoshalb:

Do you ever wonder why there are so many religions out there but the only religion people work so hard to prove wrong and to oppose is Islam? There are a lot of other religions which may seem wrong, and illogical too but from what I see, Islam receives the most opposition.

The more you want to prove it wrong, the more right it is, isn't it? You watch Islamic videos even though you're not a muslim - and then you put comments to prove Islam wrong. What's your point

You're not a muslim, but you read Quran, trying to prove Islam wrong. What's your point?
You comment on other people's comments, trying to prove their wrong. What's your point?

Why do you have to work so hard to prove Islam wrong? You can just walk away and be like, "OK whatever you know I'm just going to go on with my life. I can just leave muslims as they are, just like how I don't try to prove other buddhists or christians wrong." But you didn't do that, do you? You didn't leave muslims as they are. You go on every Islamic videos on Facebook/ YouTube and work hard to prove the videos wrong. You go on each comments, and work hard to prove people wrong. What's your point?

Why can't you leave Islam as it is?
Why can't you leave muslims as they are?
Why can't you leave us alone?
Why do you have to work so hard to PROVE ISLAM WRONG?

Because, the truth is, the problem lies in YOURSELF.
There is that little voice inside your head, whispering to you, "Islam sounds like a true religion..." but you hated that voice! You clenched your fists, gritted your teeth, and denied it! You watched Islamic videos and you were close to be convinced, but you shake your head, clearing the images away. You read Islamic comments, and you were close to be convinced, but you bit your lip and yelled, "No!".

The problem lies in yourself. YOU WANT TO PROVE ISLAM WRONG BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE CONVINCED THAT ISLAM /IS/ THE TRUE RELIGION. Your ego, man. Your ego..!
Excellent brother! Jazaakallahu Khairan!

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Re: Ruling On Raping by Sterope(f): 12:01pm On Aug 04, 2017
You must be smarter than those who have taken their time to research rape. Those who don't even have a clue about mahram or not.

My statement does not nullify the fact that rape is also committed by those who do not know however it stated that rape is mostly committed by those close to the victims.


I will post some authorities when I have your time



Kaytixy:
your first statement is a typical and a capital LIE. I have read about cases of rape and I hardly find any that says it was done by Their mahram. Except that you don't know the meaning of the word mahram. You talk like you are the only one reading about rape cases in Nigeria and outside.

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Re: Ruling On Raping by Nobody: 12:07pm On Aug 04, 2017
mokoshalb:

Do you ever wonder why there are so many religions out there but the only religion people work so hard to prove wrong and to oppose is Islam? There are a lot of other religions which may seem wrong, and illogical too but from what I see, Islam receives the most opposition.

The more you want to prove it wrong, the more right it is, isn't it? You watch Islamic videos even though you're not a muslim - and then you put comments to prove Islam wrong. What's your point

You're not a muslim, but you read Quran, trying to prove Islam wrong. What's your point?
You comment on other people's comments, trying to prove their wrong. What's your point?

Why do you have to work so hard to prove Islam wrong? You can just walk away and be like, "OK whatever you know I'm just going to go on with my life. I can just leave muslims as they are, just like how I don't try to prove other buddhists or christians wrong." But you didn't do that, do you? You didn't leave muslims as they are. You go on every Islamic videos on Facebook/ YouTube and work hard to prove the videos wrong. You go on each comments, and work hard to prove people wrong. What's your point?

Why can't you leave Islam as it is?
Why can't you leave muslims as they are?
Why can't you leave us alone?
Why do you have to work so hard to PROVE ISLAM WRONG?

Because, the truth is, the problem lies in YOURSELF.
There is that little voice inside your head, whispering to you, "Islam sounds like a true religion..." but you hated that voice! You clenched your fists, gritted your teeth, and denied it! You watched Islamic videos and you were close to be convinced, but you shake your head, clearing the images away. You read Islamic comments, and you were close to be convinced, but you bit your lip and yelled, "No!".

The problem lies in yourself. YOU WANT TO PROVE ISLAM WRONG BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE CONVINCED THAT ISLAM /IS/ THE TRUE RELIGION. Your ego, man. Your ego..!
Leave islam and muslims alone the way your prophet and jihadist left the meccans and infidels alone right?hypocrite.

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Re: Ruling On Raping by mokoshalb(m): 12:19pm On Aug 04, 2017
kattytamer:

Leave islam and muslims alone the way [b]your prophet and jihadist left the meccans and infidels alone right?[/b]hypocrite.
perhaps, it's the other way round.

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Re: Ruling On Raping by ngeneukwuewuGOAT: 12:32pm On Aug 04, 2017
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seegi:


Wat is dis one saying
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Re: Ruling On Raping by mukhtara446(m): 12:38pm On Aug 04, 2017
Sterope:
Slavery was of then not now.


I was talking about then not now
Re: Ruling On Raping by bamdly(m): 12:47pm On Aug 04, 2017
don't mind all those stupids dis-believer always running to Muslim thread to prove us Wrong

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Re: Ruling On Raping by Nobody: 12:55pm On Aug 04, 2017
mokoshalb:
perhaps, it's the other way round.
yea just like jihadist isis, al qaeda, boko haram and the verses of the quran and hadith asking muslims to terrorize non-believers till there is no other religion but islam.

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Re: Ruling On Raping by notttty(m): 12:59pm On Aug 04, 2017
Sterope:
I hope it is not about trying to change my mind on this subject matter

Definitely not but knowledge enhancement on both side. Like minds. Should I pm u to talk on another platform if u don't mind,??
Re: Ruling On Raping by mokoshalb(m): 1:05pm On Aug 04, 2017
kattytamer:

yea just like jihadist isis, al qaeda, boko haram and the verses of the quran and hadith asking muslims to terrorize non-believers till there is no other religion but islam.
ignorance is bliss

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Re: Ruling On Raping by Nobody: 1:08pm On Aug 04, 2017
mokoshalb:
ignorance is bliss
okay enlighten me please

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