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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by Balkan(m): 8:53am On Aug 25, 2017
freshest4live:

Where are the leaders and Senators in lgboland? Why are they in the senate? Why don't they pass bills for the Enugu Onitsha expressway and policies in the senate to benefit the South East? Even if rejected, let us see their efforts and then movement like lpob or Massobs would be meaningful.
We blame the federal Government for everything, where are our docile leaders?
IPOB leader is a master strategist. If they mobilise themselves to reconstruct that road, that will make Make Nnamdi Kanu a hero more. Have you not heard about free medicals in Abia state by Ipob?

Any bill that will help project in Biafra land is killed by Eriwa and Afonja.

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by freshest4live: 8:58am On Aug 25, 2017
truth4u:

You diabolically forgot that your evil quota system @boki senators are majority in the senate.... What can south East senators do when your evil @boki senators have the majority and power Evil people

Besides, why do you so much want live igbos in your one Nigeria Why are you afraid of having a separate country I can't understand this by fire by force unity...
What have the South East Senators done at all? A bill was recently passed to favour the SE, and only 18 of them were present at first, how do you expect such a bill to scale through.
I am not against lgbo, l just want you to see that your leaders and southern leaders generally are also responsible for selling our birthright and making the Northerners feel so much in control. The more you sell this narrative to them that you are being oppressed here and can only survive with the help of the U.S, the more you make the Northerners powerful. It's a shame.

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by kettykin: 9:01am On Aug 25, 2017
freshest4live:

I'm not in support of such killings, what is laughable is how the lpob sees the U.S as the solution to their problems, lol. There are other ways to handle this internally first as a major tribe rather than making the U.S your big uncle.
Why give the Hausa/Fulani so much power for god's sake? Why are there no lgbo leaders protesting these killings first in a Nigerian court and at worse to the A.U, why must the U.S be involved?

There is no other way to handle it except use a foreign court backed by external power. The Hausa Fulani can not stand igbos in war but we know the armed forces has always been coerced to support them, and Even at that they will go out of the way to starve children to death in war Rather than fight combatants.

The world needs to be aware of what is happening in Nigeria so that I'd in future war breaks out they will not foolishly support one side

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by Nobody: 9:02am On Aug 25, 2017
As if US would tolerate any country probing its numerous killings of African Americans by their police force.
Good morning fellow Danite smiley

freshest4live:

So are you slaves to the U.S? Would the U.S send bombs and missiles to Nigeria? Lol you guys are funny. The U.S must also be charged for the indiscriminate killings of innocent children in Syria, that's another human right abuse, isn't it?

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by freshest4live: 9:07am On Aug 25, 2017
kettykin:


There is no other way to handle it except use a foreign court backed by external power. The Hausa Fulani can not stand igbos in war but we know the armed forces has always been coerced to support them, and Even at that they will go out of the way to starve children to death in war Rather than fight combatants.

The world needs to be aware of what is happening in Nigeria so that I'd in future war breaks out they will not foolishly support one side
I think it's time for ohaneze Ndigbo to take up whatever Igbo struggle there is, not movements here and there, it's disorderly. Try to bring them into this and make them more active, you'll get a lot of things done, and discuss issues at the top. Stop seeing yourselves as oppressed all the time.

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by freshest4live: 9:08am On Aug 25, 2017
GenBuhari:
As if US would tolerate any country probing its numerous killings of African Americans by their police force.
Good morning fellow Danite smiley

I tire for these people, good morning.
Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by Nukualofa: 9:20am On Aug 25, 2017
freshest4live:

So you have no power to solve your problems as a major tribe in Nigeria, you have to cry to foreigners for everything? That's a sign of weakness, please stop disgracing the lgbo nation. If this was lsoko tribe, then it would be understandable. Why show the world that other regions in Nigeria can easily oppress you, and your leaders would do nothing about it, allowing fringe groups to cry for help from outsiders.
Who would hold the U.S responsible for the Syrian complaints about their children who continually die from U.S drones and missiles? Even yesterday this was on the news.
When the system is skewed against you then you have to seek for higher powers.


It's not about big or small tribe rather it's about Justice

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by Nukualofa: 9:23am On Aug 25, 2017
freshest4live:

I think it's time for ohaneze Ndigbo to take up whatever Igbo struggle there is, not movements here and there, it's disorderly. Try to bring them into this and make them more active, you'll get a lot of things done, and discuss issues at the top. Stop seeing yourselves as oppressed all the time.
What's the essence of dialogue when everything is seen through ethnic prism. Let the Court settle it and i trust the US government to obey their courts if Buratai is found culpable.


Let's meet in court and stop all these emotional blackmail

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by freshest4live: 9:28am On Aug 25, 2017
Nukualofa:
What's the essence of dialogue when everything is seen through ethnic prism. Let the Court settle it and i trust the US government to obey their courts if Buratai is found culpable.


Let's meet in court and stop all these emotional blackmail
It's a pity that Africans can't solve their problems themselves, truly we are still a colony of the West. I don't blame you guys though, l blame the system and the African Union.
When U.S government commits obvious crimes from the point of view of other nations like say Iraq or blacks, who would prosecute them? Can the new Biafra prosecute them?
If for instance, in Biafra the ljaws rise up against the lgbos, would you also take this to a court in the West?
Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by Nukualofa: 9:33am On Aug 25, 2017
freshest4live:

It's a pity that Africans can't solve their problems themselves, truly we are still a colony of the West. I don't blame you guys though, l blame the system and the African Union.
When U.S government commits obvious crimes from the point of view of other nations like say Iraq or blacks, who would prosecute them? Can the new Biafra prosecute them?
If for instance, in Biafra the ljaws rise up against the lgbos, would you also take this to a court in the West?
Since African Leaders don't want the rule of law to thrive here then it won't be wrong if the US act as our big brother.


All this emotional blackmail is not working.

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by freshest4live: 9:43am On Aug 25, 2017
Nukualofa:
Since African Leaders don't want the rule of law to thrive here then it won't be wrong if the US act as our big brother.


All this emotional blackmail is not working.
You can call it emotional blackmail, there was a recent statement attributed to Trump, where he says Africans can't even solve their problems or rule themselves and your group proves them right, not that I support the Nigerian army, but that you haven't even brought this to the forefront here in Nigeria, then Africa/ECOWAS and then finally the U.S.

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by cstr1000: 9:49am On Aug 25, 2017
freshest4live:

So you have no power to solve your problems as a major tribe in Nigeria, you have to cry to foreigners for everything? That's a sign of weakness, please stop disgracing the lgbo nation. If this was lsoko tribe, then it would be understandable. Why show the world that other regions in Nigeria can easily oppress you, and your leaders would do nothing about it, allowing fringe groups to cry for help from outsiders.
Who would hold the U.S responsible for the Syrian complaints about their children who continually die from U.S drones and missiles? Even yesterday this was on the news.
US is a superpower.
If crying to the US is weakness, then you are deluded.
You want to hold the US responsible for syria which is different from killing your own people for protesting, then make Nigeria a superpower.

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by Nukualofa: 9:50am On Aug 25, 2017
freshest4live:

You can call it emotional blackmail, there was a recent statement attributed to Trump, where he says Africans can't even solve their problems or rule themselves and your group proves them right, not that I support the Nigerian army, but that you haven't even brought this to the forefront here in Nigeria, then Africa/ECOWAS and then finally the U.S.
Nigeria government refused to obey ECOWAS court that asked it to free El Zakzaky and you kept quiet now you are just shooting an Ak-47 to your brain typing poppycock

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by cstr1000: 9:52am On Aug 25, 2017
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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by cstr1000: 9:54am On Aug 25, 2017
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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by Cooly100: 10:03am On Aug 25, 2017
GMBuhari:
So them go leave their own country / home / work come attend to una here?



Anything is possible sha since even Trump visited Nnamdi grin

Everything is possible...Are you surprised that the army no longer shoot at the agitators...See this pic at recent rally at Ekwulobia, Anambra. The army were neutral...

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by Cooly100: 10:09am On Aug 25, 2017
freshest4live:

Lolz, you guys are comedians.

The day armed robbers will visit you home and destroy you and your family the same way the soldiers are killing this unarmed people...You will be tagged a comedian..That day will not be long...As you mock people whose only crime was asking for self determination...

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by Cooly100: 10:20am On Aug 25, 2017
freshest4live:

Where are the leaders and Senators in lgboland? Why are they in the senate? Why don't they pass bills for the Enugu Onitsha expressway and policies in the senate to benefit the South East? Even if rejected, let us see their efforts and then movement like lpob or Massobs would be meaningful.
We blame the federal Government for everything, where are our docile leaders?

You are a joke..the SEDC was rejected by the senate...while the NEDC was approved because you have more northerners in NASS...Are you living in Jupiter?

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by Cooly100: 10:22am On Aug 25, 2017
freshest4live:

I'm not in support of such killings, what is laughable is how the lpob sees the U.S as the solution to their problems, lol. There are other ways to handle this internally first as a major tribe rather than making the U.S your big uncle.
Why give the Hausa/Fulani so much power for god's sake? Why are there no lgbo leaders protesting these killings first in a Nigerian court and at worse to the A.U, why must the U.S be involved?


...because the leaders are weak and only work for their pockets...That's why the people believe more in IPOB....

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by obyrich(m): 10:31am On Aug 25, 2017
freshest4live:

I'm not in support of such killings, what is laughable is how the lpob sees the U.S as the solution to their problems, lol. There are other ways to handle this internally first as a major tribe rather than making the U.S your big uncle.
Why give the Hausa/Fulani so much power for god's sake? Why are there no lgbo leaders protesting these killings first in a Nigerian court and at worse to the A.U, why must the U.S be involved?
Have you forgotten the Arewa Forum filed a case against Ihejirika at the ICC over Boko haram and killing in the North?

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by freshest4live: 10:43am On Aug 25, 2017
obyrich:
Have you forgotten the Arewa Forum filed a case against Ihejirika at the ICC over Boko haram and killing in the North?
Arewa is another useless group. Anyway Naija is to be blamed for the formation of so called groups here and there. Carry go.

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by obyrich(m): 10:46am On Aug 25, 2017
freshest4live:

You can call it emotional blackmail, there was a recent statement attributed to Trump, where he says Africans can't even solve their problems or rule themselves and your group proves them right, not that I support the Nigerian army, but that you haven't even brought this to the forefront here in Nigeria, then Africa/ECOWAS and then finally the U.S.
What Trump simply meant is that Africans are too crude to understand the principles of justice and equity? Too crude to obey the decisions of the law courts. Ask your lion king why Dasuki is still behind bars despite bails by several lawcourts in Nigeria and even the Ecowas court you quoted.

Call a spade a spade. The table will turn one day.

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by truth4u: 10:58am On Aug 25, 2017
freshest4live:

You can call it emotional blackmail, there was a recent statement attributed to Trump, where he says Africans can't even solve their problems or rule themselves and your group proves them right, not that I support the Nigerian army, but that you haven't even brought this to the forefront here in Nigeria, then Africa/ECOWAS and then finally the U.S.
If you don't want Biafra to involve USA, then, the Hausa Fulani should not use Nigerian-British military power when dealing with Biafrans....

Let it be man on man, Hausa Fulani and Igbo Ijaw slugging it out as man on man....not the zoo British military power against the armless biafrans

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by YoungDaNaval(m): 12:56pm On Aug 25, 2017
truth4u:

If you don't want Biafra to involve USA, then, the Hausa Fulani should not use Nigerian-British military power when dealing with Biafrans....

Let it be man on man, Hausa Fulani and Igbo Ijaw slugging it out as man on man....not the zoo British military power against the armless biafrans
Gbam!!

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by jpphilips(m): 12:56pm On Aug 25, 2017
kanu is still roaming the streets of Igbo land, because Igbos pamper cowards and mediocrity a lot, we pampered ojukwu and uwazuruike that is why we have Kanu today, when he fails to get this Biafra, you will not hold him accountable for the lives his struggle will affect in the North, you will not bother to blame him for the sour political future he is laying its ground work today, all the works of our patriots past since the end of the war is useless no thanks to his struggle, how many more enemies are we going to have after kanu, from the north and West? don't you think that the seed of hate kanu is sowing today will germinate into a monster of future marginalization?

Kanu is willing to risk it because it is in our nature to pamper Cowards, one of his supporters said that if he doesn't get biafra but gets restructuring, they are ok!, imagine such stup!d statement? he wants igbos to create enemies from all the cardinals of Nigeria just to achieve restructuring that favours who exactly? the politicians?

Saddam Hussein said that he can not abandon Iraq despite losing a third of his country to NATO forces, he said and I quote, "If i dare leave my people in battle, with the swords of our heroes past, every root of my family tree will cease to exist, that is the Arab spirit, we saw it with Gaddafi, Mubarak and Assad, but an igbo man is shamelessly defending a lunatic who abandoned his father in battle.

Failures like kanu will never cease in our midst, till we learn how to treat cowards who emerge from nowhere to threaten our freedom and peaceful coexistence.
Is uwazuruike not roaming freely in igbo land? what did he achieve with his struggle? Uwazuruike's massob was the reason why the south east recorded the least census population, did we hold him accountable? of course not, Uwazuruike's census boycott order is the reason for all the marginalization igbos are passing through today, at the federal level, we can't ask for additional states, why? geographically, we don't have the landmass worse still, our census figure is too low thanks to the stup!dity of Uwazuruike, by now, sane minds like me would be arguing population density as a justification for an additional state, trust me, it will fly, that advantage is lost forever, the federation account is shared on that parameters and igbos have fallen behind everything Nigeria stands for.

Has uwazuruike paid for that error with his life before we tackle hausa- fulani that profited from our ignorance and stup!d!ty? we pampered him and now you have another like him. We won't stop having this cycle of vagabonds that threaten our peace and freedom if we do not learn from the Arab!!

What did Ojukwu achieve? over 3m lives wasted, properties worth billions destroyed, no biafra and a run away patron, by 1968, the main market in onitsha has already earned the reputation of being the largest in West Africa, during the war, it was burned to the ground. imagine what that market would have evolved into without that set back? yet we refuse to learn, if those 3m were here, we would have birth the best geniuses in the world, our population with hausa and yoruba will never be in doubt so is our national cake, we have wasted everything for nothing, where is the Biafra we fought for?

Kanu has started his movement with his hate filled foul and uncouth disposition, once his con artistry expires, he will run back to London, we will live with the Hausa and yoruba enemies he made for us, if they refuse to accept us (what every sane person will do), then we run home and shout another round of marginalization, another lunatic springs up and the cycle of madness continues.
igbos must make up their minds this time to hang Kanu by the balls if he doesn't get this Biafra.

His only plan for Biafra was an unconstitutional referendum, yet he took pleasure in insulting other regions that would help achieve that purpose, to Amend the constitution of Nigeria requires 2/3rd majority of parliament and all the states house of Assemblies, if Buhari gives him a nod for a constitutional amendment, how does he expect a Sokoto house of Assembly he called "Pedophiles" to support that cause?
How about the Lagos state HA when he called Awolowo unprintable names?


What about his so called Referendum? the United nations have since stopped recognising regional but national referendum, that's why they insist on nations to have it in their constitution before executing it, while the scottish referendum (national) was ratified, the crimea (regional) was not, should you succeed in constitutional amendment, North and SW will never give you their votes even if they want to, at least as a punishment for the insult you gave them, that's the real world for you.

Nnamdi kanu must not be allowed to get away with his ill thought out and illogical plan this time around, enough is enough!!

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by jpphilips(m): 12:59pm On Aug 25, 2017
Urchman27:
American attorneys to storm Nigeria

From Aloysius Attah, Onitsha

Two United States Attorneys, Bruce Fein and Bruce DelValle of Fein& DelValle PPLC have met with ten Nigerian witnesses on the suit filed in the United States District court of Columbia against 14 Nigerian defendants for their complicity in the 2016 torture and extra-judicial killings of pro Biafran agitators during their peaceful protests.

The two attorneys who arrived Nigeria three days ago met with the families of the victims at an undisclosed location and also extracted various statements from them which were deposed as affidavits of facts to the suit.

Ten Biafran plaintiffs are seeking millions of dollars as damages to compensate for their grievous losses and suffering following the alleged gruesome killings of pro Biafra agitators in Nkpor and Onitsha , Anambra State and Aba, Abia State in 2016 during the peaceful demonstration for the release of the detained leader of the Indigenous People of Biafra, IPOB, Nnamdi Kanu.

The identities of the plaintiffs are hidden for security reasons while the case name is John Doe , etal vs Tukur Yusuf Buratai etal civil action No. 1:17-cv-01033. The case has been assigned to United States District Judge Ellen S. Huvelle, appointed by President William Jefferson Clinton.

Speaking to Daily Sun in an exclusive chat, Attorney Bruce Fein said they were in Nigeria as a follow up to the suit already in court because of Biafra agitators who were murdered as a result of high level military and security agencies infringement of their rights to freedom of assembly and expression while the state governors could not also protect the demonstrators.

He explained that under the United States law, those human rights crimes are prosecutable in the United States courts even though the plaintiffs and defendants are citizens of the country, Nigeria.

Fein said after filing the case in the US court, they were able to convince the judge that revealing the identities of the complainants /plaintiffs in the suit could result in retaliations and danger against their families, hence the reason the court settled for the name John Doe etal so that it can proceed anonymously.

He confirmed that 13 defendants out of 16 have been effectively served with the court summons and noted that the Igbos and Christians have the right to live in the country and enjoy their full rights as citizens of Nigeria.

The Nigerian facilitators, Emeka Umeagbalasi , board chairman, International Society for Civil Liberties and Rule of Law and Okpalaezenri Emeka Onyeso of the Forum for the Promotion of National Ethos and Values, in their separate remarks noted that the struggle to ensure justice for the victims and families of those who died through the use of state power of coercion while engaging in peaceful protest is a noble cause that must be pursued to a logical conclusion.

They thanked the Ekwenche Organisation of Chicago, USA for their role in the suit, noting that the capability of countries to set up laws that regulate and protect all fundamental rights of man within the context of the United Nations Declarations, Covenants, Conventions and other multilateral treaties, and punish offenders, to a very large extent, influence the level of human development in most countries of the world

Other defendants in the suit included former Inspector General of Police, Solomon Arase, former Commander 302 Artillery Regiment, Onitsha, Col Ibrahim Maigeri and Governors Willie Obiano and Okezie Ikpeazu of Anambra and Abia States among others
http://sunnewsonline.com/biafra-us-probes-agitators-killing/



Bruce fein is a constitutional lawyer not a human rights lawyer, spin another lie!!

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by jpphilips(m): 1:06pm On Aug 25, 2017
hammerT:


There is enough evidence to deploy troops sef.

These are unarmed peaceful protesters.

You have evidence to compel the US to deploy troops while the fvcker you sent to the US court is filing a civil suit to claim millions of usd in damages grin grin grin grin, IPOB is doing business with their member's misfortune. they are too dumb to realise that. grin grin

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by ofai: 1:27pm On Aug 25, 2017
jpphilips:


You have evidence to compel the US to deploy troops while the fvcker you sent to the US court is filing a civil suit to claim millions of usd in damages grin grin grin grin, IPOB is doing business with their member's misfortune. they are too dumb to realise that. grin grin

...And you are too deluded to realise your dumbness.

It is killing you that we are having foreign sympathy and Goodwill.

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by Tkester: 1:39pm On Aug 25, 2017
Afonjas please stop running Amok on every Biafran post, stop disgracing yourselves, kindly Stop it!!! Biafra has come to stay and nothing I mean I no power can stop it.

After Nov18th - we prepare for our referendum!

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by paschu: 1:47pm On Aug 25, 2017
I really think your perception about oppression is your entitlement.

But regarding your talk about "bringing in the Ohaneze Ndigbo into the struggle", that's not going to happen. What's really happening is that the perpetually neglected common majority have resolved to take their destinies into their hands.

That's pure revolution.

So, it's up to the "Ohaneze to key in with the reality or keep living in delusion. But I don't see the activists going to court their cooperation.

freshest4live:

I think it's time for ohaneze Ndigbo to take up whatever Igbo struggle there is, not movements here and there, it's disorderly. Try to bring them into this and make them more active, you'll get a lot of things done, and discuss issues at the top. Stop seeing yourselves as oppressed all the time.

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Re: Biafra: US Probes Agitators’ Killing by Nobody: 2:57pm On Aug 25, 2017
freshest4live:

Sharrap, U.S has no right to dictate anything to Nigeria, get that into your skull. Cry Baby.

Actually you are very wrong ..who leads the in security council? Who leads the nation's heading NATO?

Why did America step into the Syria you mentioned ?

While I want ipob to settle down and cease this rubbish killing them will only set the Nigerian government in a very bad situation

Please think before talking

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