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| Re: b by Nonaira1: 6:49pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
totit:We talking about Nollywood which started making wave in 1992 and expanded past Africa in the 2000s. We aren't talking about Nollywood cinema. We are talking about NOLLYWOOD. The African movies that releases movies on DVD on monthly basis which is currently one of the fastest movie industry. Keep up with the thread. I repeat go cry about Igbo dominance in Nollywood to several of the actors and actresses in the industry for repeatedly stating the fact you wish to be pact of. Go make your Afonja speaking industry something to marvel at. Stop trying to attach to Igbo own. Have shame ![]() |
| Re: b by totit: 6:53pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
Nonaira1:..but you used to be intelligent on nairaland, what happened to you or has your moniker been hijacked Tell me please, are these old junks,oral stats or whatever you copied up there relevant at all, how please?..because they are figures or what ![]() Keep dwelling on papa nnkchi complains,oral figures. O wait you've suddenly changed you tone and discarded you initial wiki link ![]() Lmao Continue dwelling on old glory abeg. It's 2017 baby and ibo don't dominate poo. ![]() |
| Re: b by totit: 6:56pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
Nonaira1:Dude, you keep abusing the word ' dominance ' pray tell me how do ibo dominate nollywood now exactly. Please I am waiting for facts and figures. And do try to include the area in which ibo dominate ![]() Make I corner u small ![]() |
| Re: b by Nonaira1: 6:57pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
totit: ![]() Did an Afonja really just talk about "old glory" You mean the same race of clowns that always remind us of the being the "first this and that" that happened in the 60s is talking about "old glory" Chineke naAnd yes oooh a book written in 2016 as well actors and actress comments from 2010- 2016 are all old glory ![]() Go and cry to the actors and actresses jor. While doing so, tell Hayes to rewrite his book and produce another one in 2017. The information he got from the people in the industry are all false. Na "old glory" ![]() |
| Re: b by totit: 7:04pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
Nonaira1:I should go and cry for who exactly? Listen to ya self nah. My stances as always been the reality of what we have bow in nollywood. What book, a book that couldn't quote figures of movies produced,list directors et al was where you drew you figures from ![]() I swear u are a joke. I an still waiting for your answer : where do ibo dominate now in nollywood ![]() |
| Re: b by Nonaira1: 7:08pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
totit:In the words of the people in the industry actors and actresses, marketers and distributors, filmmakers, film writers, etc. Infact go and tell Halima abubakar and Azuh Amatus to stop lying on AGN which is the Actors Guild of Nigeria, which is the group that control that industry, as being predominately Igbo. Inform them to stop lying ooo ![]() Let me say it one more time. Go and make your Afonja speaking movie industry something to marvel at. Maybe then, you won't be pitifully trying to attach by force. I spoke my own. Take your wails to Halima, Uche, Amatus, and co as well as Hayes ![]() |
| Re: b by Nonaira1: 7:18pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
totit:You've been crying throughout this page. I directed you to exactly the people in that industry to wail to. Is that so. Yes your stanch is on 38 movies that is theater based and discluding the most aspect of the movie industry aka the DVD sales as well as the reason we are arguing this aka it's international sales and focus on the theater. ![]() In addition, crying about old glory because the words of the people in that industry isn't the same as your attempt to attach like your afonja tribe is known to do. Secondly: so you telling me a man that went to live in Nigeria in year 1991 to study that nation's movie industry and have been in there studying it's movie industry since then and have worked tremendously with the people in the industry as well as monitored the progression of the industry for more years to count is clueless on WTF he is saying. Na so you dey say? Shame no dey your body? Let me ask one question. Afonja you dominate yoruba speaking industry. Why is it currently still unpopular and unknown despite years of it's production by you people? If you had a hand in the English speaking progress why is your language speaking movie industry have yet to break outside of your South West Region despite several years of it's existence eeh? |
| Re: b by totit: 7:19pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
Nonaira1:Guild of nigeria ibo fraction of nollywood, ofcourse. So far you've failed to provide any facts to back your claim other than oral figures,and ofcourse after been expose of your wiki link you diverted the discussion and changed tone. Yes, I agree ibos have their segment but what I am saying is that ibo don't dominate anymore in production,directors among others. If you think I dey lie prove me wrong now ![]() Dude, when we talking dominance you don't just cone with oral figures,news..you come up with the numbers of procedures,directors,quality of movies(not quantity) and how much they generate, with figureeeeeeeee o ![]() |
| Re: b by totit: 7:27pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
Nonaira1:* Money generated goes to who if not the producer or director of the movie. So what's the fuss about who sell or don't sell Cd. * Words of people in that industry base on what? Individual complains or perception, isn't it? The wiki you provided above said otherwise as of today's reality,didn't it? Dude, it's all about quality, get it no quantity abeg. * Unpopular, says who? I have friends in africa countries that loves and watches yoruba movies of nollywood,and English producers as provided in you wiki link. And, Who dominate that wiki link again ![]() |
| Re: b by Nonaira1: 7:34pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
totit:Yes you do especially when it's coming from the WORDS OF THE PEOPLE IN THE INDUSTRY IN QUESTION. Who is best to know exactly who or what dominate that industry other than the people that is actually in the industry? You asked me to give you the list of the gross producing movies. I did just that and informed you it is might desperate to try and attach using a list of movies added together in an industry that produces quantity of movies per year. Equally informed you it is desperate to try and use a figure that did not include the major aspect of that movie industry and only focused on movie theater which is the minor part of that industry considering majority of it's movies are direct DVD sales, not theater. You dismissed all that because you pathetically wish to be part of what you are not. Therefore I resorted to speaking on the actors whom have spoke exactly on what we talking about. Once more in your pathetic attempt to attach, you dismiss them as "old glory" completely forgetting all mentioned are new actors and actress excluding one. In addition quoted an unbiased individual who has been monitoring/studying that industry for more 20 years. Yet again you dismissed him and his book because it does not correlate with your delusions. Like I said before, if Yoruba had a hand in English speaking nollywood progression, that would have equally been witnessed in your yoruba speaking movie industry despite several years of its existence. The fact I'm seeing Igbo speaking movies up here in america yet it restarted few years ago says alot. Likewise your culture would have dominated the plot of the english speaking industry and till date, it has not!!! Go make yourself relevant so you don't have to attach I'm going to quote hayes one more time due to being unbiased in this and his been studying it for 25 years before writing his book.
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| Re: b by laribari(m): 7:39pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
I share this sentiment too that this fight is based on crude oil. I sat down and reasoned it deeply. Normally, the way this agitation has gone shows the people at the fore front who want this referendum more are the igbos. If oil happens to be in the igbo land they will not involve cross river, rivers, bayelsa etc. They will go on their own. In one of kanu's interview he was speaking to an Iranian and said "we have oil, we have gas, we have this an that". That line struck my heart and I just said to myself that now I understand. If biafra comes today, Enugu will be the capital and all the oil wealth will go to the igbo land just like Lagos (former capital) and Abuja. Secondly, why biafra really wanna leave is becos they believe that with oil money they can develop so fast. Nobody will leave empty handed and wish to leave. Biafra want to leave with our national wealth and that's where the problem is. These greedy politicians will NEVER sign referendum which is like happily handing oil to the east, so it will never happen. Those who say they will get biafra by war should brace up, but sey you want a referendum, that will not happen in this life time. This fight is all about wealth and crude oil but I pray that this oil should finish self. |
| Re: b by totit: 7:43pm On Aug 26, 2017*. Modified: 7:59pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
Nonaira1:Why should we bother whether yoruba nollywood is know worldwide or not when we already hold it down in English nollywoodz,does that make sense at all ![]() Well your dusty articles is dated to 2008 abeg. Why not let's consider your first wiki link that states yoruba English nollywood producers,actors and directors dominate. Why dug up old stuffs ![]() O, what of these high raking nollywood nigeria movies under yoruba movie producers,director.. that made it round the world, i.e, half of the yellow sun,30 Days in Atlanta,The CEO et al ![]() Ofcourse you hatred and jealous towards yoruba tribe won't let you confess nor see that nah To top it all,anybody could have wrote that article base on the reality or oral information available as at then. God knows where you dug that old article from. But I am sure it's as old as my black bombom sef Yeye dey smell ![]() |
| Re: b by Nonaira1: 7:59pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
totit:Your dumbass. It's easier to monitor the theater sales over the sales of DVD and video streaming as the sales of tickets is easier to attest that sales of the two which spread across several middle men. That's why movie industry worldwide counts theater sales predominately over dvd sales. Nollywood on the other hand is a DVD and video streaming industry than Theater as most Nigerian movies are immediately distributed as DVD without touching the theater. Using theater sales to mointor the industry is one of the stupidest thing one person can do. Again who is better to know wtf is going on in an industry over the people in that f2king industry. Heck even ALEX OSIFO (an old, being in the industry for years, veteran author) actually stated the same thing the young ones said. In one of his interview where he spoke of Yoruba movie industry. He stated and I "despite Yoruba movie industry being in existence before the Nigerian English films produced by the Igbos, the Yoruba movie industry has not been able to matched their English counterpart." Between you and Trump who would know more about what's going on in his administration? Not you Between you, Halle Berry, Lupita Nyong'o, Jim Kerry, Angelina Jolie, Mike Epps, Meghan Fox, etc who would know more what's going in Hollywood? Not you Between you, Kendrick Lamar, Jay Z, Lil Wayne, 2 chains, Future, etc who would know more about what's going on in the Rap industry of Hollywood? Not you Like wise between you, Uche Jombo, Halimar Abubakar, etc who would know more about what's going on in Nollywood? Not you. Really? Have you even clicked on any of the threads on NL created about Yoruba actors and actresses? What do you notice each time you check on one? Either people are asking who the Bleep they are (this are people in the country where they hail from and their movies are produced and sold) and/or it's empty as hell. Heck only that edo lady (Mercy) that plays in your industry seems to get the most views whenever a topic is made on her. If people in your country that aren't one of you are clueless on who the authors in your own industry are aka unpopular, tell your story to someone who would believe you. Even one of your author, Funsho Adeolu, made the comment " “There is no big money in Yoruba movies but I have realized that they are after knowledge, even though they are not as read as the English people.” Even one of your own, Abiodun Koya, who is supposedly well known in UK even stated that Yoruba movies turn her off due to how bad it is. Likewise even Uche jombo mentioned it is an unpopular industry in that movie industry. If people within that industry stated all that about it, who the Bleep you think you trying to fool. |
| Re: b by Nonaira1: 8:03pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
totit: The following are the highest-grossing Nigerian films of all time in Nigerian cinemas. Revenues from special screenings, DVD sales, online streaming and theatrical screenings outside Nigeria are excluded from this gross total. Films before 2000s are also excluded from this list as their gross totals have not been inflation adjusted.Even after this, a portion of what he quoted, was expanded and highlighted for him this fool still went ahead to say the highlighted ![]() I'm done, I'm talking to a dumbass who has terrible reading comprehension. Even 2016 has become 2008 ![]() You suck at English and Math. God sure don't like you. Go make your yoruba movie industry profitable maybe then you won't be pathetically trying to attach to Igbo dominated industry as attested by people within that industry. |
| Re: b by totit: 8:05pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
Nonaira1:O your long episode again ![]() So, in a nutshell, your own definition for ' dominance' is selling hawking and selling these movies cds ![]() Wait a minute, like serious, you can't even account for who sell what or not. You claim ibo dominate that aspect ( nollywood) base on that, like WTF? We talking about the impact of nollywood movies general in the world and the quality of movies produce this one is talking about WTF is this dude OK at all ![]() Lmao ![]() |
| Re: b by totit: 8:09pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
Nonaira1:Revenues from special screenings, DVD sales, online streaming and theatrical screenings outside Nigeria are excluded from this gross tota Looolx loolss Lools Let me make this simple for you, who makes all the money and take all the glory for movie productions, cds hawking Looolss ![]() Dude, your definition for ' dominance ' is soooo whack mehnnnnn Yey ![]() |
| Re: b by Nonaira1: 8:13pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
totit:Dominance are the amount of people in the industry and movies creating per day which gross income a day, not amount of limited movies that made the theater. 38 movies out of 3 years did not make Nollywood a fastest growing industry no matter how much desperate you wish it was. ![]() Quoting the non biased man one more time whose been watching the industry for approximately 25 years till his book was released. Not only do Igbo dominate Nollywood, they also dominate AGN as said by actors and actresses in the industry. Go cry to the people in the industry and go make your Yoruba movies into a profitable business so you'll have somethign to be proud of and not leeching into an industry you are irrelevant in.
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| Re: b by Nonaira1: 8:16pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
totit:This ediot is truly stupid!!!!! Curious: Do you even know what the highlighted words states. Give me a full definition of what it says. Tell me exactly what the highlighted words says I want to know if actually even know the meaning. By the looks of it, you obviously do not look like you do. After which now ask yourself do you even address the comment with the idiot question you just provided? |
| Re: b by Nonaira1: 8:20pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
totit Answer my question: What does this exact word 'Revenues from special screenings, DVD sales, online streaming and theatrical screenings outside Nigeria are excluded from this gross total." mean to you And how in your stupidity that is talking about director, producers and DVD hawkers. Tell exactly what did your brain understand from the highlighted. |
| Re: b by totit: 8:20pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
Nonaira1:I am loving this. Oya let's go there. Now, since it's all about gross-income and so far the only link,figure you could come up with is...... Ladies and gentle men.....here is the link provided by onenaira earlier on this thread : List of highest-grossing Nigerian filmsOya make una help me read oo ![]() |
| Re: b by totit: 8:25pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
Nonaira1:Oga use your head nah! Movies travels and flies but do influence and popularity of a movie industry is determined by it content and story line. What's the fuss about the sales and distribution network. Go to newyork,uk et al there are hundreds of nigeria, yoruba, ibo nollywood movies distributors ![]() And besides, since 'dominance ' is all about the cross-income like you stated and not quantities but qualities you will do well by providing numbers yourself,the quantity and the cross-income, shouldn't you. |
| Re: b by julietm123: 8:41pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
yorubas actors hold it down in Nollywood how laughable hahahaha. totit: |
| Re: b by totit: 8:43pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
julietm123:Why did you skipped the rest... producers and directors ![]() Did you even bother to read the link, or are you just another oral stats puller |
| Re: b by juman(m): 8:44pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
Kanu is even wiser than buhari. Biafra became the most discussed topic in the country. |
| Re: b by Nonaira1: 8:50pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
totit:On your post, the movies emerged together from 2008-2015. 38 movies for a industry that produced and directed 1844 movies in 2013 ALONE and 50 movies PER WEEK And in 2014, the Nigerian government released data for the first time showing Nollywood is a $3.3 billion sector, with 1844 movies produced in 2013 alone. The Nigerian film industry, also known as Nollywood, produces about 50 movies per week,http://www.un.org/africarenewal/magazine/may-2013/nigeria’s-film-industry-potential-gold-mine With majority of it's sales from DVD sales he films are produced within a month and are profitable within two to three weeks of release. Most DVD movies easily sell more than 20,000 units, while the most successful ones sell over 200,000.Most of it's movies goes directly to DVD sales These films are created for a price range starting from $10,000 or below, and are later placed directly onto DVDs to be sold by movie hubs and hawkers in the street.http://saharareporters.com/2015/07/30/nollywood-now-second-biggest-producer-films-world THE MAJOR ASPECT OF THE MOVE INDUSTRY INCOME discluded from the revenue of you provided as stated Revenues from special screenings, DVD sales, online streaming and theatrical screenings outside Nigeria are excluded from this gross total. 'Brain dead is a privilege to call you. This had to be breakdown to you. I'm going to quote it one more time She came out to say how up and coming actresses who are gifted but are not being allowed to prove themselves in the industry due to the high level tribalism of the Igbos who control the industry and are now making themselves lords over others.Halima Abukakar Interestin 2 see any1 in nollywood insult igbos abt piracy since without THEM we might nt even hv Nollywood of today#piracyIsNotATribalThingUche Jombo there’s no Nollywood but ‘Igbowood‘.I have said somewhere that it should be called Igbowood just like you have Yorubawood and Hausawood. It is not Nollywood if Nollywood represents Nigeria,” Young said.Norbet Young “But I think this is uncalled for because I have been given roles several times and later rejected simply because I’m of the Yoruba stock. I think that is really wrong. People don’t have to be rejected because of their tribes. This has really affected me,” she lamented.Rukky Sanda It argues that Nollywood is the English adaptation of the Igbo filmic industry and as such situate Nollywood’s dominant filmic culture to Igbo ethnic extraction of Nigeria.Okwuowulu Charles This is because Igbo producers take to English language films in quest for wider viewers unlike their Yoruba and Hausa counterparts who still stick to indigenous language films. This English language category of films is mainly referred to as Nollywood films. It is this English language films mainly produce by Igbos that defines Nollywood.Charles Film generally regarded as Nollywood films are produced in English language. Because of the indifferent attitude of Igbos to their indigenous language and the quest to reach wider viewers Igbo producers take to English language films. These English films which replicate the Igbo culture influences Nollywood tremendously. Thus, Nollywood films project Igbo culture more than any other ethnic group in Nigeria. The AGN is dominated and manipulated by the English speaking actors who are mostly from the Igbo tribe while the non-English speaking actors belong to another professional body.Amatus despite Yoruba movie industry being in existence before the Nigerian English films produced by the Igbos, the Yoruba movie industry has not been able to matched their English counterpart.Alex Osifo Someone help this idiot translate what's written up there in Yoruba. While doing that, help me ask am to tell us how 38 movies (that spanned several years) were the movies that grossed 3.3 billion dollars in 2013 alone. Likewise help the clown understand what this exact statement mean " Revenues from special screenings, DVD sales, online streaming and theatrical screenings outside Nigeria are excluded from this gross total." Means ![]()
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| Re: b by Nonaira1: 8:57pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
totit:Let me make it easy for you Nollywood is an industry which majority of it's movie produced are NOT theater released. Majority of that industry's incomes comes from, drum roll please DVD SALES AND VIDEO STREAMING. Now when those sales are excluded, then whatever provided is completely irrelevant. Especially since this argument is what made Nollywood progress past Nigeria shores and the sales for that is also excluded. Go back to school, Learn English because English is not your forte. |
| Re: b by julietm123: 9:00pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
He/she is just arguing blindly. She doesn't know that more than 90%of Nigerians have never been to the cinema. Most Nigerians watch these movies on DVD or some other informal way . Nonaira1: |
| Re: b by totit: 9:01pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
Nonaira1:The dude must be jumping upanda now, feeling like a warrior already with his usual long-face saving episode. So, in your deluded mind you want to take the glory .. like WTF And I quote you ; On your post, the movies emerged together from 2008-2015. 38 movies for a industry that produced and directed 1844 movies in 2013 ALONE and 50 movies PER WEEKIf you are not a chronic liar you fraud eyes should tell you that the figured or crossed-income stated above was compiled under all nigeria movies comprise of : yoruba,hausa,English and ibo movies oleeeeee why try to take all the glory eh ![]() Tell me more, was the compilation and figures base on ibo movies or nigeria movies as a whole or not ![]() As for these junk news,lamentation you pull up there they are useless, abeg Ole oooo ![]() |
| Re: b by Nonaira1: 9:09pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
totit:Chei I even quoted one of the author in your yoruba movie, Funsho, stating that there is no big money in Yoruba movies. Yet this clown is trying to attach to the high revenue as nollywood as "all nollywood added together." Shame no dey for una body. Heck I quoted several different people within that industry saying the same thing I and several others know yet this clown is here still arguing and telling us about theater released movies that spanned several years. Abeg waka go. Carry your stupidity to somewhere else. |
| Re: b by Nonaira1: 9:10pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
julietm123:I noticed that. He or she is arguing just to argue. Na poor reading comprehension dey worry am. |
| Re: b by totit: 9:14pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
Nonaira1:Quite acting you smart. Nollywood , without the country,nigeria and apart ibo tribe, is the whole of nigeria movies. If you doubt it/me why not show me the link where you copied and got the cross-stats from ![]() I tire for you oo Can't you drop the sentiment already and face the reality for once |
| Re: b by totit: 9:16pm On Aug 26, 2017 |
Nonaira1:Yoruba movie producers produces both Yoruba nollywood Yoruba and English, isn't that right what's the fuss about. His/her personal experience tho if you ask me. |
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