EgunMogaji:


True, Sir.

And astute architect/builders take roof load into consideration when deciding what block size to use for partitions.

There's a reason for concrete "pliers"

(Sorry Azuh, I couldn't help my self.)

One of the funniest posts I've read in this section is Skimanski writing that he ran out of a building he went to look at in Lekki as soon as he saw what the builder did. I hope I didn't quote you wrong, El Maestro.

atleast I can afford a house that worth millions......show your own house ? Seeeee make anybody nor dey mention my name again , person nor go enjoy him new wife cos of nairaland. Nonsense!!

Daboomb:


And how long will this Haulage business continue to provide the stated income?

Will it be up to fifty years, as some house built in the 70's are still raking-in come till date and the value of the land sef is currently over #100M.

Sir, I like your idea but l also like to do due dilligence by asking the relevant questions.

That can be discussed.

Enough of the political stuff, Lets look at different ways to combine the aluminum window with the burglary proof, this is for learning purposes only.

Picture 1. I got an aluminum pipe sample which is thick enough to serve as a good barrier that keeps intruders out
Picture 2. Trying to compare between the aluminum pipe, a 3/4 galvanized pipe and a 1" galvanized rod to compare the thickness, the aluminum wins.
Picture 3. I thought I am a strong ma, but all my attempts to bend this pipe was in vain.
Picture 4. The window after we fitted the pipes.

Back, front.............

But what about safety? How can we modify this so we can have a quick escape latch on it? Supposing we need to escape the building in an emergency?

Daboomb:


Thank you. I was discussing Politics with some people but not him

I am sure you know that l did not have any convo with him at all (just read the back pages to confirm) and l have deliberately ignored all his jibes as well.
I know he is dying to exchange words with me
But l know an attack Dog, when l see one. He should report back to the person that sent him

For now, l will allow him to keep attacking and fighting himself as below.
It is allowed in A Demon-Crazy.

Falls from Mount Everest, how can a human being be talking to a statue, Hahaha

snakebeat:

True. Often times i see them shouting 9" block for external walls on this section, i just laugh.
Most internal walls also carry load same as or even more than some external walls.
Someone asked who made it a standard, no congent answer was given.

The statement for internal walls carrying more load when compared to external walls is not entirely correct and there are so many factors for even that to apply in any building as one building differs to another.

As regarding the use of 9" blocks for so so and so as someone said it should be considered as "a rule of thumb". 9" blocks are just used for such purposes to ensure a better factor of safety.

As far as small buildings and bungalows are concerned, If you have a good understanding of block laying and joints then you can do your build without having to put columns even if you want it to hold a concrete facial(parapet) and roof type.

It is not a standard acceptable practice but one can actually use a 5" block for a one-storey build. It's all about what's in your head and how it works it comes to such instances.

Chekitaut:
That can be discussed.

Oga, Dont you want other interested people to learn from the discussion on the business idea?

Just give an idea of the ROI, even a general one with some bone to hold on to.

AZUH:
atleast I can afford a house that worth millions......show your own house ? Seeeee make anybody nor dey mention my name again , person nor go enjoy him new wife cos of nairaland. Nonsense!!

Azuh, oh wait did I mention your name again? Oops

spyder880:
Enough of the political stuff, Lets look at different ways to combine the aluminum window with the burglary proof, this is for learning purposes only.

Picture 1. I got an aluminum pipe sample which is thick enough to serve as a good barrier that keeps intruders out
Picture 2. Trying to compare between the aluminum pipe, a 3/4 galvanized pipe and a 1" galvanized rod to compare the thickness, the aluminum wins.
Picture 3. I thought I am a strong ma, but all my attempts to bend this pipe was in vain.
Picture 4. The window after we fitted the pipes.

That is a brilliant innovation!
Doing it Horizontally sort of improve the aesthetics (IMO) compared to Vertically as we are used to BUT
BUT again, l think it is easier to saw through a horizontal pipe (due to the way we cut stuffs) than through the verticla one.

2.) Sir, l dont think it is about the thickness of the material alone.
The inherent Tensile strength of the material (and steel will easily win over Aluminium) is what is more important when it comes to strength of the pipes

3.) Bros, l think you use to be very strong but old age things
But you stil get strong hands, from the look of it.
But unwanted visitors would likely be using Hammers to bend the stuff, not hands!

4.) Looks really appealing, even more than the vertical type!

Instead of using pipes, wuld you consider using 16mm rods placed inside very thin Aluminium pipes (as before) but placed horizontally as you did.
Bravo to you Sir.

spyder880:
Enough of the political stuff, Lets look at different ways to combine the aluminum window with the burglary proof, this is for learning purposes only.

Picture 1. I got an aluminum pipe sample which is thick enough to serve as a good barrier that keeps intruders out
Picture 2. Trying to compare between the aluminum pipe, a 3/4 galvanized pipe and a 1" galvanized rod to compare the thickness, the aluminum wins.
Picture 3. I thought I am a strong ma, but all my attempts to bend this pipe was in vain.
Picture 4. The window after we fitted the pipes.

Where do we strike the balance when it comes to using prison like burglary proof when it comes to fire outbreak? Does burglary proof really provide safety? The burglary proof I see being used in Nigeria scares the hell out of me. Burglary cannot stop determined intruders as we know it. It can only slow them down for few minutes. How do we escape fire outbreak when we have the windows and doors all braced with burglary proof? I am yet to get answer to this question from people.

FastShipping:


Where do we strike the balance when it comes to using prison like burglary proof when it comes to fire outbreak? Does burglary proof really provide safety? The burglary proof I see being used in Nigeria scares the hell out of me. Burglary cannot stop determined intruders as we know it. It can only slow them down for few minutes. How do we escape fire outbreak when we have the windows and doors all braced with burglary proof. I am yet to get answer to this question from people.

If I was going to be the occupant of my structures then I would not do any burglary. My Wife, and Mother In Law, are both adamant that they are required items.

So what I did was have my welder create an openable burglary proof in one of the rooms. My welder did a fantastic job in that you cannot tell from a casual glance. This is on the padlock garage.

The main house will have external burglaries which I intend to remove in the future once my Dobermans, which are still one of the important layers of security, are embedded.

EgunMogaji:


Azuh, oh wait did I mention your name again? Oops

boss shey you want make people when I dey owe money know say I get money to buy data check nairaland when I never pay them ? Nor mention my name again . I use Buhari and APC beg you .

EgunMogaji:


If I was going to be the occupant of my structures then I would not do any burglary. My Wife, and Mother In Law, are both adamant that they are required items.

So what I did was have my welder create an openable burglary proof in one of the rooms. My welder did a fantastic job in that you cannot tell from a casual glance. This is on the padlock garage.

The main house will have external burglaries which I intend to remove in the future once my Dobermans, which are still one of the important layers of security, are embedded.

Nice one. But will please advise you to keep the burglar proofs in place. The Doberman's can be poisoned and incapacitated by our ingenious hoodlums. In naija na cunny man die cunny man bury am oh . All the best

FastShipping:


Where do we strike the balance when it comes to using prison like burglary proof when it comes to fire outbreak? Does burglary proof really provide safety? The burglary proof I see being used in Nigeria scares the hell out of me. Burglary cannot stop determined intruders as we know it. It can only slow them down for few minutes. How do we escape fire outbreak when we have the windows and doors all braced with burglary proof? I am yet to get answer to this question from people.

There is no reason to put up burglary behind doors in this present day Nigeria because there are customized cheap iron door that will serve their purpose.
A determined external intruder will have his/her way into the build and it will only cause more anger on his part to harm the occupants therein going through such tremendous stress.
Except you have other layers of security which are sophisticated and trusted, you will find yourself to blame for not putting up burglary in your house in Nigeria except there's nothing of real value inside the house.

In the instance of emergency/fire outbreak, burglary which can only be removed/detached /opened in most cases by an occupant when inside the building is installed behind one or two windows at different locations.

More so if it were to be only for fire outbreak no building in Nigeria would carry any form of burglary.

DUNKA:
Nice one. But will please advise you to keep the burglar proofs in place. The Doberman's can be poisoned and incapacitated by our ingenious hoodlums. In naija na cunny man die cunny man bury am oh . All the best

They'll only eat from their foods and only on command.

These will be an expensive part of my defense, well thought out and integrated.

We can only try because even with the best defense they still got to POTUS Reagan.

AZUH:
boss shey you want make people when I dey owe money know say I get money to buy data check nairaland when I never pay them ? Nor mention my name again . I use Buhari and APC beg you .

Azuh, what about Chukwu Alabiabia?

Now that the Politilocos have shouted themselves hoarse let's pick up our dance

Nice topic for discussion. keep it up. Nairaland all the way....

My neighbor in Nigeria had a high fence, giant gate of about 11 to 12 coaches of blocks as fence around his house, he was at work in lagos, bad boys climbed the fence in the midnight, knocked one of the burglary proof in one of the windows, entered his house, they asked the wife to submit all her gold and valuables, the woman was shivering, with 3kids in the house, the bad boys finally opened the main doors and the central gate for others to come in, completed the robbery and went away majestically, 2 other bigger buildings within the same area were robbed in similar manners, despite the gigantic gate, the criminals still have their ways, one of those that was] robbed now has a huge 2 big German Shepherd for protection, I saw the dogs when I was in Nigeria recently, the security situation in Nigeria is precarious, even with different layers of security, if bad boys are determined to get you, they will, how do you confront more than 20bad boys armed with sophisticated riffles and different instruments? Some robbers even break down your external blocks to enter your apartment, robbers in Nigeria today, go in groups and they take strategic position to encircle their target, may God help us in that country that has no effective security in place

AngelicBeing:
My neighbor in Nigeria had a high fence, giant gate of about 11 to 12 coaches of blocks as fence around his house, he was at work in lagos, bad boys climbed the fence in the midnight, knocked one of the burglary proof in one of the windows, entered his house, they asked the wife to submit all her gold and valuables, the woman was shivering, with 3kids in the house, the bad boys finally opened the main doors and the central gate for others to come in, completed the robbery and went away majestically, 2 other bigger buildings within the same area were robbed in similar manners, despite the gigantic gate, the criminals still have their ways, one of those that was] robbed now has a huge 2 big German Shepherd for protection, I saw the dogs when I was in Nigeria recently, the security situation in Nigeria is precarious, even with different layers of security, if bad boys are determined to get you, they will, how do you confront more than 20bad boys armed with sophisticated riffles and different instruments? Some robbers even break down your external blocks to enter your apartment, robbers in Nigeria today, go in groups and they take strategic position to encircle their target, may God help us in that country that has no effective security in place

Amen!!
My view is having 5-7coaches then having ur firm railings with good connected barb electric functioning wires.
If at all they manage to still break in others outside the compound I mean neighborhood can see or hear noise one way or the other so affection can b attracted n necessary things done.

God will have mercy on this country.

AngelicBeing:
My neighbor in Nigeria had a high fence, giant gate of about 11 to 12 coaches of blocks as fence around his house, he was at work in lagos, bad boys climbed the fence in the midnight, knocked one of the burglary proof in one of the windows, entered his house, they asked the wife to submit all her gold and valuables, the woman was shivering, with 3kids in the house, the bad boys finally opened the main doors and the central gate for others to come in, completed the robbery and went away majestically, 2 other bigger buildings within the same area were robbed in similar manners, despite the gigantic gate, the criminals still have their ways, one of those that was] robbed now has a huge 2 big German Shepherd for protection, I saw the dogs when I was in Nigeria recently, the security situation in Nigeria is precarious, even with different layers of security, if bad boys are determined to get you, they will, how do you confront more than 20bad boys armed with sophisticated riffles and different instruments? Some robbers even break down your external blocks to enter your apartment, robbers in Nigeria today, go in groups and they take strategic position to encircle their target, may God help us in that country that has no effective security in place

I salute your neighbor for taking steps to protect his family.

He just needed to add a few more levels of protection. Hopefully he'll now add well trained Dogs and maybe a shotgun.

Robbers are cowards and lazy, they are looking for easy scores

The job of every home owner is to convince the robbers to move down to softer targets.

EgunMogaji:


I salute your neighbor for taking steps to protect his family.

He just needed to add a few more levels of protection. Hopefully he'll now add well trained Dogs and maybe a shotgun.

Robbers are cowards and lazy, they are looking for easy scores

The job of every home owner is to convince the robbers to move down to softer targets.

EgunMogaji:


I salute your neighbor for taking steps to protect his family.

He just needed to add a few more levels of protection. Hopefully he'll now add well trained Dogs and maybe a shotgun.

Robbers are cowards and lazy, they are looking for easy scores

The job of every home owner is to convince the robbers to move down to softer targets.

EgunMogaji:


I salute your neighbor for taking steps to protect his family.

He just needed to add a few more levels of protection. Hopefully he'll now add well trained Dogs and maybe a shotgun.

Robbers are cowards and lazy, they are looking for easy scores

The job of every home owner is to convince the robbers to move down to softer targets.

When I visited him in his house and we had a discussion, he was not talking about owning a firearm, he seems to be satisfied with the giant dogs he purchased but when I saw the hugeness of those dogs, l was glad with him, one of the dogs is almost like a donkey, the barking alone is enough to make any criminal shiver unless God forbid that the criminals will enter and open fire at the Dog, mehn, his dogs are scary, and they are rugged, gun ownership should actually be made easier for people to have it because the process of owning one legally and been licensed to use it seems to be cumbersome in Nigeria although I might be wrong, I use to have a bank manager friend who went through the whole process and he was issued with the license and permits to have it, I think he went through lagos state commissioner of police then, so it was pretty easy for him, some people l know in lagos have the local double barrel guns but that is like a toy compared to what this bad boys parade with when going for operation, if for instance in a street of about 30 homes, say 10 to 15 people are licensed with arms, during any robbery, those home owners can also be shooting into the sky at random and that might weaken or deter the robbers from their operations

AngelicBeing:
When I visited him in his house and we had a discussion, he was not talking about owning a firearm, he seems to be satisfied with the giant dogs he purchased but when I saw the hugeness of those dogs, l was glad with him, one of the dogs is almost like a donkey, the barking alone is enough to make any criminal shiver unless God forbid that the criminals will enter and open fire at the Dog, mehn, his dogs are scary, and they are rugged, gun ownership should actually be made easier for people to have it because the process of owning one legally and been licensed to use it seems to be cumbersome in Nigeria although I might be wrong, I use to have a bank manager friend who went through the whole process and he was issued with the license and permits to have it, I think he went through lagos state commissioner of police then, so it was pretty easy for him, some people l know in lagos have the local double barrel guns but that is like a toy compared to what this bad boys parade with when going for operation, if for instance in a street of about 30 homes, say 10 to 15 people are licensed with arms, during any robbery, those home owners can also be shooting into the sky at random and that might weaken or deter the robbers from their operations

AngelicBeing:
When I visited him in his house and we had a discussion, he was not talking about owning a firearm, he seems to be satisfied with the giant dogs he purchased but when I saw the hugeness of those dogs, l was glad with him, one of the dogs is almost like a donkey, the barking alone is enough to make any criminal shiver unless God forbid that the criminals will enter and open fire at the Dog, mehn, his dogs are scary, and they are rugged, gun ownership should actually be made easier for people to have it because the process of owning one legally and been licensed to use it seems to be cumbersome in Nigeria although I might be wrong, I use to have a bank manager friend who went through the whole process and he was issued with the license and permits to have it, I think he went through lagos state commissioner of police then, so it was pretty easy for him, some people l know in lagos have the local double barrel guns but that is like a toy compared to what this bad boys parade with when going for operation, if for instance in a street of about 30 homes, say 10 to 15 people are licensed with arms, during any robbery, those home owners can also be shooting into the sky at random and that might weaken or deter the robbers from their operations

Fact but I don laugh tired abt a dog-like-donkey

AngelicBeing:
When I visited him in his house and we had a discussion, he was not talking about owning a firearm, he seems to be satisfied with the giant dogs he purchased but when I saw the hugeness of those dogs, l was glad with him, one of the dogs is almost like a donkey, the barking alone is enough to make any criminal shiver unless God forbid that the criminals will enter and open fire at the Dog, mehn, his dogs are scary, and they are rugged, gun ownership should actually be made easier for people to have it because the process of owning one legally and been licensed to use it seems to be cumbersome in Nigeria although I might be wrong, I use to have a bank manager friend who went through the whole process and he was issued with the license and permits to have it, I think he went through lagos state commissioner of police then, so it was pretty easy for him, some people l know in lagos have the local double barrel guns but that is like a toy compared to what this bad boys parade with when going for operation, if for instance in a street of about 30 homes, say 10 to 15 people are licensed with arms, during any robbery, those home owners can also be shooting into the sky at random and that might weaken or deter the robbers from their operations

This is what I aim to do when I start living in Nigeria on a full time basis.

Setup a homeowner security association. Encourage each home to be armed and have a network of resources with each other.

Suggest to your neighbor to have a loud siren installed.

EgunMogaji:


This is what I aim to do when I start living in Nigeria on a full time basis.

Setup a homeowner security association. Encourage each home to be armed and have a network of resources with each other.

Suggest to your neighbor to have a loud siren installed.

Nice, u guys really mean this oo.
It worth is tho,it's human life n not of fouls.

EgunMogaji:


This is what I aim to do when I start living in Nigeria on a full time basis.

Setup a homeowner security association. Encourage each home to be armed and have a network of resources with each other.

Suggest to your neighbor to have a loud siren installed.

This your ideas is pretty much a fantastic one and l think so many home owners will buy into it.

AngelicBeing:
This your ideas is pretty much a fantastic one and l think so many home owners will buy into it.

Exactly!

Timtol:



Fact but I don laugh tired abt a dog-like-donkey

Lol, it is not a hearsay matter, I own a property just about 3mins walk to his house, so I am relaying a live witness report, when I went to his gate, just touching the gate alone, they started roaring like a hungry lion, I told them not to open the gate until they went and lock the dog up in the house they built for him, he told me he feeds them by 4pm daily and they eat only once a day with regular veterinary visit to keep them healthy and in shape, he releases both dogs as from 7 to 8pm and you dare not go to his gate or else the dogs will use you to compensate for the once a day meal

EgunMogaji:


This is what I aim to do when I start living in Nigeria on a full time basis.

Setup a homeowner security association. Encourage each home to be armed and have a network of resources with each other.

Suggest to your neighbor to have a loud siren installed.

hmmm makes sense but remember Evans lived a neighbourhood without them knowing you he was into. just b careful when encouraging them

AngelicBeing:
Lol, it is not a hearsay matter, I own a property just about 3mins walk to his house, so I am relaying a live witness report, when I went to his gate, just touching the gate alone, they started roaring like a hungry lion, I told them not to open the gate until they went and lock the dog up in the house they built for him, he told me he feeds them by 4pm daily and they eat only once a day with regular veterinary visit to keep them healthy and in shape, he releases both dogs as from 7 to 8pm and you dare not go to his gate or else the dogs will use you to compensate for the once a day meal

AngelicBeing:
Lol, it is not a hearsay matter, I own a property just about 3mins walk to his house, so I am relaying a live witness report, when I went to his gate, just touching the gate alone, they started roaring like a hungry lion, I told them not to open the gate until they went and lock the dog up in the house they built for him, he told me he feeds them by 4pm daily and they eat only once a day with regular veterinary visit to keep them healthy and in shape, he releases both dogs as from 7 to 8pm and you dare not go to his gate or else the dogs will use you to compensate for the once a day meal

This is serious!
You too fear pass.
I love that.
Experience really matters in live.

yak:


hmmm makes sense but remember Evans lived a neighbourhood without them knowing you he was into. just b careful when encouraging them

I disagree.

Evans didn't need any association to encourage him.

Criminals don't play by same rules.

Nothing is foolproof but my disdain is reserved for those that sits idly but expects change.

Timtol:

This is serious!
You too fear pass.
I love that.
Experience really matters in live.

It is not about fear, how do you expect me to walk into a house with fiery looking unrestrained German Shepherd? I'm not ready to be a lunch or dinner to hungry German Shepherds lol, so it is wise to have them locked up after my visit to his house he can release them, the dogs only recognize him and his household other than that, nobody dares go inside when those dogs are released