raumdeuter:


Thats your opinion and you have a right to it. You can choose your opinion, you cant choose your facts

Who else are we to blame? Conte ,mou ,Wenger and not Pep?

I didn't see you here blaming mou when we were almost relegated Bros.....why then do you want us to blame everything including the air we breathe but Pep fraudiola?

Greatihex:
these players were sold and the useless oscar, schurlle and willian were kept, yet, chelsea were won something.
Dnt you think it is abt hw they were used by the coach?

Are you saying Pellegrini, Guardiola and Stoke coach dont know how to use Bony

Or that Leicester coach isnt using Iheanacho well

Or Torino coach Guardiola, and Bilic are not using Joe Hart well

Or all coaches who refused to buy Sagna arent using him well?

diggz:


Who else are we to blame? Conte ,mou ,Wenger and not Pep?

I didn't see you here blaming mou when we were almost relegated Bros.....why then do you want us to blame everything including the air we breathe but Pep fraudiola?

When you almost relegate a team like Chelsea who is there to blame? If Pep takes City to 16th position and hovering around relegation I will surely blame Pep

CapitalCee:


5 years ago City were champions, Chelsea finished 6th. So city are not at foundation while Chelsea at lintel at that time.

5yrs ago Chelsea were European Champions. 5yrs ago City cant even make it from CL group stages

Who dey lintel and who dey foundation

raumdeuter:


When you almost relegate a team like Chelsea who is there to blame? If Pep takes City to 16th position and hovering around relegation I will surely blame Pep

And if Pep we fails to win shibiii you will blame everything and everyone but Pep fraudiola himself.... wehdonsir

Segadem:
I wonder how these super players suddenly became rubbish under pep?

And these super players after leaving Pep still cant get a decent club to play for or are still rubbish

raumdeuter:

KdB has more CL goals from open play than Hidden hazard

the bolded is none of my business. Why didn't u talk abt their overall stat? And why haven't u told us that Alli is beta than both of them?

Big game? KDB goal got City into the only CL semi they made
https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1063410/Live/Europe-UEFA-Champions-League-2015-2016-Manchester-City-Paris-Saint-Germain

if you want to go that way. hazard's assists qualified belgium for the world cup round of 16. His goal and assists took belguim to the euro quarter final.
while Hazard cluelessness eliminated Chelsea from the only CL semi they made in his time [/quote]

diggz:


And if Pep we fails to win shibiii you will blame everything and everyone but Pep fraudiola himself.... wehdonsir

I blamed Mourinho when he almost relegated Chelsea, I will also blame Pep if he almost relegates City understand?

Greatihex:

the bolded is none of my business. Why didn't u talk abt their overall stat? And why haven't u told us that Alli is beta than both of them?
if you want to go that way. hazard's assists qualified belgium for the world cup round of 16. His goal and assists took belguim to the euro quarter final.
while Hazard cluelessness eliminated Chelsea from the only CL semi they made in his time

We are talking about KdB and Hazard. Is any of them bearing Alli?

raumdeuter:


So without Roman money in 2003 would Chelsea have won 4 titles and a CL?

Money well spent.

Manchester City has pumped a billion plus into players but still, endeavour To wake me up when they reach the UEFA Champions League finals

raumdeuter:


I blamed Mourinho when he almost relegated Chelsea, I will also blame Pep if he almost relegates City understand?

But if he can't win shibiii with all the attacking players he has and money spent on defenders, we should go blame nigeria govt abi?

VargasVee:



Money well spent.

Manchester City has pumped a billion plus into players but still, endeavour To wake me up when they reach the UEFA Champions League finals

They still havent spent as much as Chelsea did if you adjust for player value.

diggz:


But if he can't win shibiii with all the attacking players he has and money spent on defenders, we should go blame nigeria govt abi?

Why dont you wait till then. But I guarantee you if he takes City to relegation spots like Mourinho did with Chelsea I will blame him

raumdeuter:


pronoucing or naming means nothing your delivery on the field is what matters

Pele also pronounced Godwin Okpara as having potential to rule the world but he ended his career in prison

wow. I am in wonder of y in the world of football with thousands of coaches and players, no one has ever named kdb as a potential for top awards or say that he is beta than hazard. Why do they always place hazard or name him ahead of kdb? Are they myopic in the issues of football?

Greatihex:
wow. I am in wonder of y in the world of football with thousands of coaches and players, no one has ever named kdb as a potential for top awards or say that he is beta than hazard. Why do they always place hazard or name him ahead of kdb? Are they myopic in the issues of football?

They can mention as many times as they want until he actually delivers all that mention is nothing. At the time people were mentioning Robinho, very few people even mentioned Ronaldo

Today their productivity has spoken for them not the mention. If Hidden Hazard continues producing at the level of Joshua King and dissapearing like a ghost. No one will care about his mention

raumdeuter:


If a team doesnt perform well, what are the things that could likely be wrong?

poor man management by the coach and nt having good player.
These are the main thing.

Greatihex:
poor man management by the coach and nt having good player.
These are the main thing.

So which of these do you think made Chelsea finish 10th

raumdeuter:


Explain what parking the bus means and characteristics of bus parking

to the best of my knowledge, that phrase was coined by mourinho when he drew against west ham with chelsea. He called their tactics a "19th century" football. He then said that in portuguese, they wl call it "parking the bus".

In that match, west ham barely crossed their half way line and had all their eleven players behind the ball. Their first line of attack was nt far away frm their penalty box.

VargasVee:


LMAO

Bro that's not even the issue. The reason those players went there cause they were paying better.

You can do whatever you want at Man city. We've all seen it.

i disagree.
Check the city buys in those years you wl see that they were either player that looked impossible to price away frm their club or they were well sought out for around their league or europe by big or above average clubs. E.g sterling, kdb, otamendi etc. Compare that to chelsea that were signing falcao, djibidbujibiji, rahman and their likes.

diggz:



How they performed before they joined city is what you should be questioning not after they left city. Abi na which kind amala you dey try turn for here?

that is why i dnt like engaging hm in arguments. But, the problem is that i sometimes find it hard to stand the falsehood he peddles here.

The part that disturbs me is that, this man is a very intelligent man, bt he sometimes chooses nt to use it.

diggz:



How they performed before they joined city is what you should be questioning not after they left city. Abi na which kind amala you dey try turn for here?

that is why i dnt like engaging hm in arguments. But, the problem is that i sometimes find it hard to stand the falsehood he peddles here.

The part that disturbs me is that, this man is a very intelligent man, bt he sometimes chooses nt to use the intelligence.

raumdeuter:


They still havent spent as much as Chelsea did if you adjust for player value.

Lol Is that what you think?

Since 92/93 SEASON

Chelsea has spent £1,381,199,000 on buying players

Made gain of £661,925,000 from selling

Manchester City has spent £1,427,030,000 on buying players

Made gain of £405,553,000

Do the math yourself

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/chelsea/english-football-teams/chelsea-transfers

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/manchester-city/english-football-teams/manchester-city-transfers

raumdeuter:


Are you saying Pellegrini, Guardiola and Stoke coach dont know how to use Bony

Or that Leicester coach isnt using Iheanacho well

Or Torino coach Guardiola, and Bilic are not using Joe Hart well

Or all coaches who refused to buy Sagna arent using him well?

are you saying that the person that was using them b4 they were signed by city with big money were using magic to use them or weren't they coaches?

Greatihex:
i disagree.
Check the city buys in those years you wl see that they were either player that looked impossible to price away frm their club or they were well sought out for around their league or europe by big or above average clubs. E.g sterling, kdb, otamendi etc. Compare that to chelsea that were signing falcao, djibidbujibiji, rahman and their likes.

Bro that's not the issue. City were offering better personal terms and they were mostly afraid of competition, not like it was their dream clubs.

Chelsea were ahead in Aguero race but City bought him instead, So was the case of Stones and Mangala.

Greatihex:
are you saying that the person that was using them b4 they were signed by city with big money were using magic to use them or weren't they coaches?

They probably werent good enough for City level or elite level football which is what whoever bought them failed to factor in

That a player is good at Swansea doesnt mean he will make it at Chelsea

VargasVee:


Lol Is that what you think?

Since 92/93 SEASON

Chelsea has spent £1,381,199,000 on buying players

Made gain of £661,925,000 from selling

Manchester City has spent £1,427,030,000 on buying players

Made gain of £405,553,000

Do the math yourself

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/chelsea/english-football-teams/chelsea-transfers

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/manchester-city/english-football-teams/manchester-city-transfers

Chelsea built their team when transfer fees of 20M was the normal and only elite players were sold for 30M plus, City is building their team when transfer fee of 80M is the normal. Morata was bought from Madrid bench for 70M Shevchenko was 30M, Torres a top striker from a league rival was bought for 50m.

If in 3yrs time when people don dey buy players for 200M regularly Hull City decides to build a worldclass team doyou expect they will be getting a Drogba level player for 25M that Chelsea paid?

raumdeuter:


So which of these do you think made Chelsea finish 10th

do you answer question with question? I asked u first u shld answer me first.

Greatihex:
that is why i dnt like engaging hm in arguments. But, the problem is that i sometimes find it hard to stand the falsehood he peddles here.

The part that disturbs me is that, this man is a very intelligent man, bt he sometimes chooses nt to use it.

Dayo....is a very tricky customer to deal with , aspa using his intelligence he actually does all the time. The thing is, dayo chooses his own angle in every discourse and most times, he chooses the very unpopular side of it unfortunately for us all and that is what makes him very unique here.

Greatihex:
do you answer question with question? I asked u first u shld answer me first.

Bwuahahahaha..... that is course 101 on dayos subject. The very start of turning amala

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The guys managing your club's transfers are obvious learners except they have a better player in view.

raumdeuter:


Chelsea built their team when transfer fees of 20M was the normal and only elite players were sold for 30M plus, City is building their team when transfer fee of 80M is the normal. Morata was bought from Madrid bench for 70M Shevchenko was 30M, Torres a top striker from a league rival was bought for 50m.

If in 3yrs time when people don dey buy players for 200M regularly Hull City decides to build a worldclass team doyou expect they will be getting a Drogba level player for 25M that Chelsea paid?

When exactly did 80m become the norm? Even in the past seasons when city went about breaking record fees to sign mangala,otamendi,stones was 80M the norm then? Even now self there are some players who they won't even buy for certain amounts in their dreams.

Greatihex:
to the best of my knowledge, that phrase was coined by mourinho when he drew against west ham with chelsea. He called their tactics a "19th century" football. He then said that in portuguese, they wl call it "parking the bus".

In that match, west ham barely crossed their half way line and had all their eleven players behind the ball. Their first line of attack was nt far away frm their penalty box.

How is this different from what Bourneouth did