Ranchhoddas:
Funny isn't it?
How these clowns are all trying to teach their Oga (Nigerian speak for Boss) what they think they know.
You don't have to be an initiate to know that there is more to the OP than meets the eye.
Crazy lot.

sukkot:
hello PastorAIO. now what i said is ALL ascended masters will be water sign but not every-person under a water sign is an ascended master. hope that makes sense. JESUS CHRIST was pisces. Hence the story of him using 2 fishes to feed multitudes. Two fishes is pisces



with regards to the ascendant ? it is a calculation and not a planetary body and you will never find 2 astrology programs that agree on the formula for calculating the ascendant so i tend to stay away from it. all astrology programs have different values for the ascendant

PastorAIO:


Being difficult to calculate or ascertain does not make it irrelevant.

But my question is, why the emphasis on the Sun sign.? Why not the moon sign?

Wouldn't it make more sense that the moon sign would indicate an ascended master than a sun sign?

sukkot:
lol life is a journey. you end up in many crazy situations wondering ' how the heck did i find myself here ' ? yeah i know many who have ended up na-ked in bushes being initiated into all kinds of fraternities in nigeria lol. it is what it is. some people want to bring you down and break you down to your last essence before they accept you. its spiritual alchemy. you are na-ked and then you go through the fire and then you are purified.

sukkot:
well it is irrelevant in that it is not a celestial body. it is just a calculation. book of genesis 1 vs 14 says i have given you the greater light in the heaven for a sign ( the sun ) and a lesser light ( the moon ) and the stars. it has no mention of horizon calculations. so the horizon calculations is just what man has created for himself.

now with regards to why the sun and not the moon ? the sun is your higher self and the moon is your lower self. your purpose in this reincarnation is your higher self aka the sun sign

PastorAIO:


The twelve signs of the zodiac are celestial bodies.

The position of a configuration of celestial bodies on the horizon are known (tried tested and confirmed) to be of great effect.

The Sun is not any higher self. If anything it is the obstructing ego. It's number is 666.

What about Jupiter? Saturn? Why shouldn't someone with Aquarius featured strongly be an ascended whatever?

Sarassin:


Very astute comments Sukkot, many Fraternal Orders do require different things of their adherents, many (in my opinion) are made to give far more in order to receive very little. In the case I mentioned before, I really could have just gone round to my neighbourhood temple and over Espresso and Amaretto biscuits, a small contribution later the attending priest would have pronounced a few words over me and that would have been it, these days, I hear you can even get internet blessings but would have been the point?

I learnt Jewish Qabalah and at first I thought the Rabbi’s who indoctrinated me were quite simply mad, they initially refused to teach in English, I spent six months initially on a Kibbutz learning the basics of Hebrew that they demanded, When I approached them again, I was asked to recite 360 aspects of God in Hebrew and when I had done that I was then informed that I was to go away and perform the invocatory ritual of the Divine Archangels for ONE year twice a day and if I missed one session I was to begin all over again. I wanted to strangle them as they spoke but I left.

It took me three years to return to Jerusalem, but I did, by then I had come to know exactly why they spoke as they did, they saw it in my eyes and they happily taught me. I learnt the invaluable life lessons of Faith, Patience and Consistency.

sukkot:
lol bro the 12 signs of the zodiac are not celestial bodies but are cosmic demarcations or houses in the universe. and i dont know where you get this sun obstructing ego and being 666 but it is contrary to the bible and i am assuming you subscribe to the bible because you are a pastor

PastorAIO:


I've always thought that Pisces referred to a constellation of 18 stars. Please google it. I may be wrong.

I presume you've been initiated in hermetic traditions in which case you'd have had to study a fair bit of geometry and maths.

Were you ever made to calculate the Magic Square of the Sun? Can you remind us what it is?

sukkot:
lmao bros pansophist greetings. yeah everything I said will come to pass. mistake I made was trying to predict a date for the happenings. its a learning moment for me in that now i just tell you whats about to happen but i dont put timelines so that impatient people dont start screaming when the date comes and nothing has happened yet

sukkot:
lol bro the 12 signs of the zodiac are not celestial bodies but are cosmic demarcations or houses in the universe. and i dont know where you get this sun obstructing ego and being 666 but it is contrary to the bible and i am assuming you subscribe to the bible because you are a pastor

sukkot:
yes pisces is a zodiac constellation. its a house. and in that house are stars. so pisces is a house where some stars live, if that makes sense. also in that house we have galaxies and nebulas and black holes etc. a gathering of stars is a galaxy and not a constellation

calculating the magic square of the sun ? no i stick to the longitude, latitude, declination, right ascension, velocity, altitude and azimuth positions of the sun. i dont dabble in the Magic square

Sarassin:
It took me three years to return to Jerusalem, but I did, by then I had come to know exactly why they spoke as they did, they saw it in my eyes and they happily taught me. I learnt the invaluable life lessons of Faith, Patience and Consistency.

PastorAIO:
I've always thought that Pisces referred to a constellation of 18 stars. Please google it. I may be wrong.

I presume you've been initiated in hermetic traditions in which case you'd have had to study a fair bit of geometry and maths.

Were you ever made to calculate the Magic Square of the Sun? Can you remind us what it is?

pansophist:


So in the wake of all these, is Obama still resuming office as prophesized earlier? and this 23rd September thingy, what exactly is happening on that date?

PastorAIO:

I am bound by the limits of my knowledge as I am sure you are and everyone else too.

It seems that we have very different perspectives and understanding of these hermetic things.

First I understand the signs of the zodiac to be very different from the houses. They overlap but are different. One moves the other doesn't.

Second, I find it odd that you know enough to tell if someone is an 'ascended master' from their sun sign yet you've never heard of the Magic Squares. Talk less of try to construct them for each planet or derive Seals from them.



And as such I look forward to that day when the Sun shall be no more and my steps will be guided by a truer light.

Revelation chapter 21:

And the city has no need of the sun, nor of the moon, that they should shine in it; for the glory of God enlightened it, and its lamp is the Lamb. 24And the nations will walk by its light,


Revelation 22:


And night will be no more. They will need no light of lamp or sun, for the Lord God will be their light, and they will reign forever and ever.


From my perspective it bothers me that you'll tell people that the Sun is their Higher Self and they should follow the Sun.

LoJ:

I thought you would by now have realized the guy is a well known troll of the forum. He really does not know much, except some conspiracy theories and internet based black Hebrews "esoteric" theories he read (watched and listened to) here and there (youtube and various websites). That coupled with pseudo astrology and a lot of humor, there you have it. That's our man.

However, he has good intuitive abilities, and a true spiritual calling. If you take his anti Igbo stances, mockery and his numerous (failed) prophecies and revelations aside, he is generally a nice read, and one can but sense he is indeed gifted, sincere and somehow spiritual.

Ranchhoddas:
Funny isn't it?
How these clowns are all trying to teach their Oga (Nigerian speak for Boss) what they think they know.
You don't have to be an initiate to know that there is more to the OP than meets the eye.
Crazy lot.

PastorAIO:
@ OP,

As a qabalist and bearing in mind you open this thread called middle path...

Please can you tell us which number in the Sefer Sefiroth blocks the path from 1 to 9 and on to 10?
What planet is assIgn to that sefiroth?

LoJ:

So deep.

Please move on with the installments. There is much noise around - in the scientific/linguistic meaning of noise - but please do move on.

Sarassin:


On the basic model it is 6, the planet is of course the Sun.

I use the term 'Middle Path' in terms of a practitioners direction.

Sarassin:


I will as best as I can. Just got a bit 'distracted'

LoJ:

I can't blame them. There is something peculiar about sarassin, and I told him that a few times already, I am still trying to learn how to achieve that too, to the same extent.

Normally, it is possible to "smoke"* someone and sense who he really is, at his core. For that you need something personal, a picture, an audio, etc. Anybody can achieve this, with a little training, some do this better than others however. I can do it, with the writings of someone, even on the internet, and that almost at will.

However, for some reason, Sarassin was (still is) very difficult to "smoke". He is one of the only 2 people here in nairaland (the other one being PastorAIO), I never could "smoke"* from their writing. This is the very reason, why I avoided him for a long time on nairaland, although I was already aware of his writings. It took special circumstances, for me to dare approach him directly.

They say a true mystic, "never attracts attention, and never seeks attention". He truly has achieved that - in my opinion.

*I use the verb "smoke" here for very personal reasons. But I am certain some people here surely understand why my choice of word.

Cheers.

Ranchhoddas:
Really?
Have you *smoked* me?
What did you find out?

NPComplete:


I am beginning to believe u don't believe half of the things these guys peddle be it claims of knowledge of the esoteric, wisdoms from the ethereal or the pseudoscientific woowoo that the New Age guys espouse. You just like egging them on as a way to have fun.
I believe u don't believe anything per se. Hearing them talk is like reading a Tolkien novel to u.

sukkot:
now on a side note, the character JESUS CHRIST in the bible was codedly trying to tell you he is from the water sign PISCES. like i told you, all ascended masters will be water signs. So how was he trying to convey that message ? by feeding a multitude with two fishes ( its a symbolic story ). now pisces the water sign is the 2 fishes sign. So the bible is also a hidden book of astrology. Thats PISCES. 2 fishes. The nosame 2 fishes used to feed the multitude




MizMyColi

Ranchhoddas:
..."but then Mormont saw them. You saw them. And I trust the words of an honest man more than what everybody knows...." Tyrion Lannister talking to Jon Snow on why he believes that the White Walkers are real.


In my case we will have to replace "honest man" with "erudite man".

The reason atheists and other skeptics alike give for their position is lack of evidence and a rather vain appeal to their intellects.
They often mock believers as "unlearned" and "deluded".

But when you look at some of the guys who hold these "superstitions", they are among the most intellectual around.
Apart from Plaett.on and maybe Agent.ofAllah, all the people on this forum who are scholarly (not Google knowledge) all believe in one esoteric thing or the other.
So it is either they are all deluded (which makes no sense anyway I try to look at it) or there really is something there.
I am inclined to go with the latter.
So in the words of The Dragon Queen, "perhaps we should all start to examine the things we think we know"...


PS: I prefer GRRM. I've never read Tolkien.

enigmatic16:



I take it dat ure pisces... I ve met a mentaly elevated pisces... He introduced me 2 all i knw bout awareness now... He was an interesting being, very spiritual...u remind me of him. He knew too much n i found it annoying

sukkot:
Greetings monsieur Chubhie. too many long epistles lol. whats the premise of the thread ?

OK finally read the thread. the OP is a very peculiar fellow. interesting and very articulate fellow. now all these concepts he talked about are all biblical concepts but he wrapped it up in a very flowery presentation with lots of cosmic mythical jargon's. Its all biblical concepts, left hand side power, right hand side power and the middle place. I can go the flowery route but I rather go straight to the point because the knowledge base is too vast for me to flower up a tiny portion of it. But I did enjoy the flowery posts and the mythical jargons. it always makes for a good read. but its all biblical concepts.

ultimately ? all spiritual systems trace their way back to the bible. the ultimate goal is harnessing electromagnetic powers aka a very high frequency of vibration and becoming an ascended master. now some of these powers ( a miniscule amount ) you can get via unconventional routes as mentioned by OP because a miniscule amount of powers is in circulation for those in delusion to perpetrate and enhance their delusions ( voodoo, etc etc ) and these will be the left hand powers. but the ultimate power aka the right hand power can only be achieved through morality and being a highly favored being full of grace.

Chubhie:

I humble myself to learn and bear witness to the master's in this thread.

sukkot:
yeah I humble myself too bro. in fact tonight i will read the thread from start to finish cuz i havent done so yet. i just schemed through. very intellectual thread it is. how you been bro ? thanks for bringing the thread to my attention

Chubhie:

The Pleiades directed my fingers to the thread.Such a thread would be incomplete without your inputs laced with humor. I LOL at the part you replied about the OP dancing naked in the streets of sir-Lanka. Friends thought I just got high on soft drinks!

I'm a lil fragmented between balancing work and advancing the soul simultaneously. I pray the Pleiades would grant my wish of some diamonds on their next visits.LOL!

Hope irma no reach your end?