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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:58pm On Oct 21, 2017
MikeCZA:
This is their equivalent of the Russian Terminator?

With the "proliferation" of anti-tank rockets/missiles other armies might have to tweak their armour doctrine to allow these type of vehicles.

Thermobaric & HEAT warheads.
looks like it

present doctrine kind of takes care of it via indirect LOS weapons like mortars artillery MBRL both mounted or unmounted

but given the fast moving fluid nature of warfare and the burden it places on associated logistics , it aint always possible to have ur armor accompanied by the above NLOS weapons . especially if the deployment is of few no of armor

so yes this is where such heavy infantry support/firepower systems will play their role , mixed in the ratio of 1 such system with 2 tanks , will do well to cover up the tanks from the man portables threat .

though i believe progress in APS for tanks might negate it
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by MikeCZA: 8:43pm On Oct 21, 2017
nemesis4u:
looks like it

present doctrine kind of takes care of it via indirect LOS weapons like mortars artillery MBRL both mounted or unmounted

but given the fast moving fluid nature of warfare and the burden it places on associated logistics , it aint always possible to have ur armor accompanied by the above NLOS weapons . especially if the deployment is of few no of armor

so yes this is where such heavy infantry support/firepower systems will play their role , mixed in the ratio of 1 such system with 2 tanks , will do well to cover up the tanks from the man portables threat .

though i believe progress in APS for tanks might negate it
The development of APS for tanks to me aren't revolutionary(such as when the tank first rumbled into battle) as a couple of countries are already developing or trying to systems able to bypass APS ie Denel dynamics stealth Ingwe missile.

In the 80s FAPLA would had to use infantry as a screen for their tanks.

Another option would be to mount rugged advance sensors on a tank chassis and use it for target identification then engage with indirect fire(mortars preferably). The TOS-1 with a firing range of around 6-8km and putting out massive smoke clouds when firing I believe makes it to juicy not to be engaged.

I rather sit in that Patria container mortar vehicle than it.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 1:21pm On Oct 22, 2017
Tapas BH 201 also known as Rustom II.

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 2:52pm On Oct 22, 2017
Russia munitions for UAVs

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 3:28pm On Oct 22, 2017
Ukraine kamikaze drone

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 4:11pm On Oct 22, 2017
Recon Scout

an Indian company also makes such devices

very good for CASO

i liked the one which could be stuck into trees , walls etc and totally invisible unless ur very close to it and looking for it

good for SF ops too during setting up of ambush or during exfiltration so that one is not caught by surprise etc etc , the feed from these adds to the situational awareness and the point man can control the ops as per the real time observations , significantly cuts down the load on overhead sensors .

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 4:14pm On Oct 22, 2017
MKU

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 4:37pm On Oct 22, 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyc3WjOGrR8

Tonbo Imaging's Staghound-TI Combined Thermal + Day Camera (can produce Fusion image of thermal overlay on day camera's image)


The Staghound-TI has already been sold to the NSG, and is also on offer for the BSF, CRPF and IA
Staghound TI has been exported to customers outside India
The Arjun rail-mounted thermal sight has been offered to IA for the 7.62x51mm assault rifle
Arjun TI sight has already been sold to the Peruvian Army under a $100 million deal, to equip up to 10,000 firearms
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 4:55pm On Oct 22, 2017
info regarding IAF negotiations wrt PAKFA

IAF not happy with PAKFA Stage 1 and PAKFA Stage 2 will require more time to mature.

and IAF technical committee talks of a total of 275+ modifications for FGFA over PAKFA Stage 2 in the file report to truly make it 5th gen as per IAF and the aforesaid modifications is going to cost additional investments which Russia won't share and will be under Indian Customization head from Day 1. this means India will have to spend additional 5+ billion dolllars or more from her pockets on PAKFA to bring it up to her expectations

But bigger challenge is HAL will not get anything above MKI level work for PAKFA Stage 2 to FGFA plan. also certain Key research areas will be outside the scope of India unless India coughs up additional funds.

its SU30MKI all over again ,u invest ur money and R & D, but u dont get to share the IPR

lets see what happens ,becz Ind.. is also dangling the F35 to get the Russians to buckle, LM recently made a classified presentation to IAF on F35.

lol it will be funny if indi... ends up getting dangled by both US and Russia. grin

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:26pm On Oct 22, 2017
info regarding kaveri engine and LCA wrt to french involvement

French Safranised Kaveri engine is on track and a report has been submitted of the progress.

also the Dassualt Team and French government has submitted a list of possible systems (like SPECTRA active cancellation system of rafale , RBE2 derived AESA radar etc) which they want to integrate into LCA Mk1A and make it far more potent deriving from Rafale and Mirage experiences and feedback from IAF who had given detailed feedback on M2Ks. Their plan is to make LCA Mk1A far more modular internally and ease of systems integration for a growth potential upside.

plus MII offer has been sweetened in a big way via these integration's and DRAL JV becoming a player in LCA production Ecosystem.

also Rafale Program is further boosted with a hybrid new Engine boost- amalgamation of Kaveri variable cycle with M-88 core to create a family of engines is now official and on black and white. Same size, same core, same modularity and similar tech powering both LCA Mk1A and Rafale India and This engine entirely will also be Made in India.


on the naval requirement of 57 2 engined fighters officially the Rafale M wingtip is now getting tested with a mechanism to disintegrate in 5 minutes and fit into <10m span and re attaching the same in max 15 minutes with another 5 minutes for a full system check. This system is planned for IAC-1 deployment and is part of the offering under "further research point" in naval tender.


on the industrial side The MII plan is further accelerated with French side clearly saying UAE and another order amounting to almost 78 Rafales in total will be supplied via DRAL JV in india when MII factory is up and running as well. These Export Orders and their MRO will be DRAL India only as per French officials. French state visits and Team Dassault will be strong in next 4 months with a emphasis to seal the deal asap on Rafale MII.
In civil side, Falcon Jet production is also given a go ahead to give more value for DRAL India.


u guys might be wondering why Americans Russians Israelis swedes french r offering their technology to India

eg AESA radar which they were loath to share with india few years ago

becz india managed to develop the core technology to start developing her own AESA radar , the guys did their reviews based on espionage etc etc and they did not like what they saw , so the rush to sell their products with TOT

but the point is foreign TOT offers u the 'KNOW HOW' but not the 'KNOW WHY' which is the essence to developing ur technological base and make u independent from foreign countries

for any body to qualify for foreign TOT u need to be in a position where others will consider u fit (read as threat to their future markets ) for such TOT otherwise the best one will get is nut and bolt technology at the expense of billions of dollars and a captive market wink

lol americans r offering F35 to india now , during the recent visit of their sate department officials they did so , considering 40 or so years ago they though the indians were unworthy technically to fly their jets

guess the jokes on their side now when a good percentage of their DARPA employees r Indian educated american citizens , hell one of them even headed the DARPA grin

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 5:49pm On Oct 22, 2017
And he would claim he isn't Indian
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:57pm On Oct 22, 2017
Odunayaw:
And he would claim he isn't Indian
the claim still stands cool cool cool

grin grin grin and.....

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody:
update on ind... SSBN program

INS Arihant S2 (Arihant class) operational, 4 silos and 6 torpedo tubes

INS Aridhaman S3 (Arihant class) operational but no public info due to secrecy, 8 silos and 6 torpedo tubes

INS unnamed S4 (Arihant class) final assembling to start soon after INS Aridhaman moves out, 8 silos and 6 torpedo tubes

INS unnamed S4* (it is a different class bridging between S4 and S5 ) with 12 silos and 6 torpedo tubes , development under advance stage , though production of modules yet to begin due to shipyard limitations to handle upto 20000 tonnes sub fabrication , they need to be upgraded . some reports claims it has 24 silos but my info is different

INS unnamed S5 (it is a totally different class much akin to USN Ohio class) with 24 silos and 6 torpedo tubes , under development

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:34pm On Oct 22, 2017
for anti terrorist ops inside urban areas and building after learning the lessons from the mumbai 26/11 terrorist attacks

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:50pm On Oct 22, 2017
ITBP Indo Tibetan border police airborne unit

it is a para military force for border guarding , recently got into a kung fu match with PLA troops

both sides took a good bashing grin grin grin

i am surprised they have airborne troops , unheard of for border police .

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:52pm On Oct 22, 2017
@Odunayaw

i hope u did not offended with my cat , it was a jest grin

i was only defending my alien citizenship which u guys always seem to dispute sad

that cat friend of mine is a alien too from planet mz104a wink
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:55pm On Oct 22, 2017
from ITBP parade

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 8:06pm On Oct 22, 2017
nemesis4u:
@Odunayaw

i hope u did not offended with my cat , it was a jest grin

i was only defending my alien citizenship which u guys always seem to dispute sad

that cat friend of mine is a alien too from planet mz104a wink
cats don't have fans in my fatherland so it must have gotten bored and made a face to its whiskers grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 8:14pm On Oct 22, 2017
Odunayaw:
cats don't have fans in my fatherland so it must have gotten bored and made a face to its whiskers grin
my cat friend says grin

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 8:28pm On Oct 22, 2017
T72 up in the mountains

lot of tinkering had to be done to get it suited to the condition's up there

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 8:34pm On Oct 22, 2017
nemesis4u:
my cat friend says grin
grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 9:04pm On Oct 22, 2017
old grads

upgraded grads

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 9:05pm On Oct 22, 2017
AS-90 Turret on T-72M

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 11:48pm On Oct 22, 2017
akask sam system components

troop denotes army version

flight denotes airforce version

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 12:08am On Oct 23, 2017
drdo ground control station for UAVs

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 12:11am On Oct 23, 2017
drdo RCWS

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 12:39am On Oct 23, 2017
drdo Target designator sights

it forms part of the long range gun fire control system

it comprises of the LYNX multi sensor fire control radar system , EOFCS (electro optical fire control system) , Target designator sights

which can work together or in combination or individually to direct gun fire from the ship main gun or CIWS systems onboard

this allows for redundancy incase of battle damage or better utilization of resources as per needs
eg.

if a suspected speed boat comes in very close undetected then manual directing of onboard guns will yield better kill results or enable firing of warning shots in visual range

or if the radar clutter is too high and as a result there is difficulty in tracking and locking onto a sea skimming missile , the EOFCS will stand a better chance to pick up the IR /thermal signature of the incoming missile and slave the CIWS Gatling guns onto it as a last ditch attempt .

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 1:49am On Oct 23, 2017
interior view of the drdo ground control station for UAVs

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 10:21am On Oct 23, 2017
nemesis4u:
one must not take anything seriously one reads on the main stream media

basically we r all being taken for a ride with all of us being lea into believing that we r in control grin

as for PAKFA

unless either indian or russian defence officials got penetrated by moles

i dont think how media has access to the plans / on going discussions

these r simply false flags or media sensationalism or click bait articles
Or a bargaining tactic!
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 4:09pm On Oct 23, 2017
kikuyu1:
Or a bargaining tactic!
behind closed doors where the discussions takes place , all these news articles dont hold water

nobody in the corridors of power takes them seriously , detailed internal presentations from designated agencies r what which helps in negotiations .
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 4:13pm On Oct 23, 2017
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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:11pm On Oct 23, 2017
pragati NLOS BM

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