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Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by Nobody: 6:20pm On Oct 24, 2017
There are concerns from some Tecno fans and users about the company's decision to go with an octa-core Helio P25 SoC (Systems-on-Chip) which they believe is a step down over deca-core Helio X20 used in Phantom 6+. There is no need to worry fans, I will be sharing with you 5 reasons Helio P25 is better than Helio X20.

1. 16nm FinFET MANUFACTURING PROCESS
Previous Helio X20 used a 20nm HPM manufacturing process while Helio P25 used a 16nm FINFET, we could have a long lecture on both technologies but in a nutshell Helio P25 is a much smaller CPU at 16nm with a much improved FinFET technology which allows Helio P25 consume roughly 90% less power than Helio X20

2. FASTER AND MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT RAM
Helio X20 has a maximum RAM size support of 4GB and it used an LPDDR3 RAM type which clocked at 800 MHz while Helio P25 has a maximum RAM size support of 6GB and it uses an LPDDR4X RAM clocked at 1600 Mhz. Apart from the higher RAM size of LPDDR4X, it will consume 50% less power than its lower generation LPDDR3 at 150% more bandwidth. Also, having a higher clock speed means the CPU will access files from the RAM faster than LPDDR3.

3. IMPROVED IMAGIQ ISP WITH DUAL CAMERA SUPPORT
ISP (image signal processor) is a special processor which handles anything related to camera for pictures and video capture e.g autofocus, exposure, HDR, white balance etc. are all handled by the ISP. Helio P25 has much improved IMAGIQ ISP which adds support for dual camera, crisp optical zoom up to 10x, real time depth of field and more. The ISP allows Tecno to add features like Super Zoom and Auto Refocus to the Phantom 8.

4. FASTER GPU (Graphical Processing Unit)
Both Helio P25 and X20 use the same ARM Mali T880 GPU but Helio P25’s GPU clocks higher at 1 Ghz against 780 Mhz of Helio X20.

5.CORE PILOT 4.0
Both SoC’s use mediatek’s Core pilot scheduler to determine workload and select which cores to use and which cores to turn off. But Helio P25 which is a later SoC supports Core Pilot 4.0 which doesn’t just determine workloads across cores, it also measures the thermal consumption of the CPU and uses that data to balance workloads. This means Phantom 8 and Helio P25 will run cooler that its predecessor.

There you have it. Helio X20 is designed to have a more powerful CPU, a jack of one trade. But Helio P25 is designed to be a more dynamic SoC, it’s powerful enough to handle any task, great at multitasking thanks to its more improved RAM, more battery efficient that's why Phantom 8 doesn’t need 4000mah battery to last as long as Phantom 6+, will handle games better and will also stay cool headed most of the time.

What do you think about Phantom 8’s Soc? PEACE!





Source: http://bbs.tecno-mobile.com/forum/phantom-aa/153586-why-you-should-love-phantom-8-s-helio-p25-cpu

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Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by dejiWEST: 6:44pm On Oct 24, 2017
So OP Helio P25 is not a step down from Helio X20?

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Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by MrOreo(m): 7:26pm On Oct 24, 2017
Op, can you please translate all you've just typed up there to english. undecided ??
Thank you

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Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by Nobody: 7:28pm On Oct 24, 2017
MrOreo:
Op, can you please translate all you've just typed up there to english. undecided ??
Thank you

Lol!! You should be tech savvy

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Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by Nobody: 7:30pm On Oct 24, 2017
dejiWEST:
So OP Helio P25 is not a step down from Helio X20?

with what OP wrote up there, it's definitely not

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Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by Ennyholar: 7:44pm On Oct 24, 2017
P25 is actually coool
It was also used on Samsung Galaxy Max

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Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by Norman4real(m): 10:39pm On Oct 24, 2017
Still not a worthy upgrade, should've given us the X30, but i won't blame Tecno for that since mediatek had production issues with the x30 and P25 was it's closest.

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Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by Nobody: 9:08am On Oct 25, 2017
Norman4real:
Still not a worthy upgrade, should've given us the X30, but i won't blame Tecno for that since mediatek had production issues with the x30 and P25 was it's closest.

Maybe P25 is still better than X30 you know
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by Queentito(f): 10:25am On Oct 25, 2017
MrOreo:
Op, can you please translate all you've just typed up there to english. undecided ??
Thank you


Lol
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by Queentito(f): 10:25am On Oct 25, 2017
dejiWEST:
So OP Helio P25 is not a step down from Helio X20?

It's not, that is what the post is trying to say
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by stanboy28(m): 11:47am On Oct 25, 2017
Norman4real:
Still not a worthy upgrade, should've given us the X30, but i won't blame Tecno for that since mediatek had production issues with the x30 and P25 was it's closest.
God bless your landlord jare.... Was actually xpeting an helio x30.. Mtcheeeew
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by stanboy28(m): 11:54am On Oct 25, 2017
Op Abeg jst kain ur line jare... To me it's a step down.. If it was even then Helio x25 I will be happy.. This is a Fvcking downgrade.. Mtcheeeew.. And here I was... Expecting an Helio x30.. Rubbish...and worse is the price tag... And even more better fones with same chipset are cheaper.. I even saw an Helio x25 4g ram fone for 84k on gearbest... This shit is overrated..
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by Nobody: 12:33pm On Oct 25, 2017
stanboy28:
Op Abeg jst kain ur line jare... To me it's a step down.. If it was even then Helio x25 I will be happy.. This is a Fvcking downgrade.. Mtcheeeew.. And here I was... Expecting an Helio x30.. Rubbish...and worse is the price tag... And even more better fones with same chipset are cheaper.. I even saw an Helio x25 4g ram fone for 84k on gearbest... This shit is overrated..

OK I understand your point. But still, the pros of P25 may outweigh the cons of X25 or X30. Truth is we cannot know better than the manufacturer
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by stanboy28(m): 12:38pm On Oct 25, 2017
Iamdemola:


OK I understand your point. But still, the pros of P25 may outweigh the cons of X25 or X30. Truth is we cannot know better than the manufacturer
agreed
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by Behankey(m): 10:42am On Nov 01, 2017
A lot of us was expecting the device to run on the X30. I just think the P25 was used as a better alternative
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by sureinfo: 2:29pm On Nov 01, 2017
Whether upgrade or downgrade the phantom make sense die
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by Jaculze(m): 7:28pm On Nov 23, 2017
Meaning the phantom 8 is running on a major CPU
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by Jaculze(m): 7:29pm On Nov 23, 2017
Iamdemola:


OK I understand your point. But still, the pros of P25 may outweigh the cons of X25 or X30. Truth is we cannot know better than the manufacturer
very good point.
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by sureinfo: 10:04am On Nov 24, 2017
Jaculze:
Meaning the phantom 8 is running on a major CPU
Yep, definitely
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by dejiWEST: 6:23am On Dec 03, 2017
Yeah I figured, just had to be sure
D4Daymoo:


with what OP wrote up there, it's definitely not
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by dejiWEST: 6:23am On Dec 03, 2017
Yup! Seen, looks like they went for the better alternative
Queentito:


It's not, that is what the post is trying to say
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by paolokonqueror(m): 9:23am On Dec 03, 2017
Phantom 8? I like the phone
sureinfo:
Whether upgrade or downgrade the phantom make sense die
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by Achillesdam500(m): 8:06pm On Dec 03, 2017
Guys what do you think of oukitel6000 plus?
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by DavidoArsenal(m): 9:57pm On Dec 03, 2017
My thoughts exactly
Jaculze:
Meaning the phantom 8 is running on a major CPU
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by DavidoArsenal(m): 9:58pm On Dec 03, 2017
True talk, they say who wear shoe nain know where dey pain am
Iamdemola:


OK I understand your point. But still, the pros of P25 may outweigh the cons of X25 or X30. Truth is we cannot know better than the manufacturer
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by Kogbaski: 7:18pm On Dec 15, 2017
Everything about the phantom 8 is just lit
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by tidedroid: 7:45am On Dec 16, 2017
Iamdemola:
There are concerns from some Tecno fans and users about the company's decision to go with an octa-core Helio P25 SoC (Systems-on-Chip) which they believe is a step down over deca-core Helio X20 used in Phantom 6+. There is no need to worry fans, I will be sharing with you 5 reasons Helio P25 is better than Helio X20.

1. 16nm FinFET MANUFACTURING PROCESS
Previous Helio X20 used a 20nm HPM manufacturing process while Helio P25 used a 16nm FINFET, we could have a long lecture on both technologies but in a nutshell Helio P25 is a much smaller CPU at 16nm with a much improved FinFET technology which allows Helio P25 consume roughly 90% less power than Helio X20

2. FASTER AND MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT RAM
Helio X20 has a maximum RAM size support of 4GB and it used an LPDDR3 RAM type which clocked at 800 MHz while Helio P25 has a maximum RAM size support of 6GB and it uses an LPDDR4X RAM clocked at 1600 Mhz. Apart from the higher RAM size of LPDDR4X, it will consume 50% less power than its lower generation LPDDR3 at 150% more bandwidth. Also, having a higher clock speed means the CPU will access files from the RAM faster than LPDDR3.

3. IMPROVED IMAGIQ ISP WITH DUAL CAMERA SUPPORT
ISP (image signal processor) is a special processor which handles anything related to camera for pictures and video capture e.g autofocus, exposure, HDR, white balance etc. are all handled by the ISP. Helio P25 has much improved IMAGIQ ISP which adds support for dual camera, crisp optical zoom up to 10x, real time depth of field and more. The ISP allows Tecno to add features like Super Zoom and Auto Refocus to the Phantom 8.

4. FASTER GPU (Graphical Processing Unit)
Both Helio P25 and X20 use the same ARM Mali T880 GPU but Helio P25’s GPU clocks higher at 1 Ghz against 780 Mhz of Helio X20.

5.CORE PILOT 4.0
Both SoC’s use mediatek’s Core pilot scheduler to determine workload and select which cores to use and which cores to turn off. But Helio P25 which is a later SoC supports Core Pilot 4.0 which doesn’t just determine workloads across cores, it also measures the thermal consumption of the CPU and uses that data to balance workloads. This means Phantom 8 and Helio P25 will run cooler that its predecessor.

There you have it. Helio X20 is designed to have a more powerful CPU, a jack of one trade. But Helio P25 is designed to be a more dynamic SoC, it’s powerful enough to handle any task, great at multitasking thanks to its more improved RAM, more battery efficient that's why Phantom 8 doesn’t need 4000mah battery to last as long as Phantom 6+, will handle games better and will also stay cool headed most of the time.

What do you think about Phantom 8’s Soc? PEACE!





Source: http://bbs.tecno-mobile.com/forum/phantom-aa/153586-why-you-should-love-phantom-8-s-helio-p25-cpu

don't mislead people,helio x20 GPU is mp4(it has 4 cores) while helio p25 GPU is mp2( meaning it has 2 cores)
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by tidedroid: 7:47am On Dec 16, 2017
Norman4real:
Still not a worthy upgrade, should've given us the X30, but i won't blame Tecno for that since mediatek had production issues with the x30 and P25 was it's closest.
I think they should waited for p30 or at 300 dollars they should have used a snapdragon 660 like xiaomi did on the similarly priced Mi note 3
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by datyorubaboy: 3:28pm On Dec 18, 2017
Too much sense
sureinfo:
Whether upgrade or downgrade the phantom make sense die
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by omoalajah(m): 5:09pm On Dec 18, 2017
Its an efficient processor
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by missslimzy(f): 5:25pm On Dec 18, 2017
Love it
Re: Why You Should Love Phantom 8's Helio P25 CPU by koskilala: 9:07pm On Dec 22, 2017
You should love everything about phantom 8. Everything

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