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Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by Throwback: 2:57pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
ivandragon: You are too partisan to have seen all that the portal would feature, that I begin to wonder if you even read the news at all before posting it on this forum. The ministry has hinged the success of its drive to revive the solid minerals sector on this portal, just as you have agreed that certain business hold their own portals as a key to their own survival. We all agree the ministry has been dead from inception, so what is wrong to bring it alive with a tool you have agreed have kept global businesses alive and competitive? Is it a crime that the ministry of solid minerals is determined to leapfrog the doldrums and finally burst into the new millennium 17years late? That you call that portal as just providing information as if it is a CraigDavid.com website where you go to see upcoming concert dates in the hay days of that R&B star, already belies your claims of being objective. Let the portal fail to drive the ministry to the heights that they set, then you can begin to call it a waste of money when it has failed to be productive. For all those who are naive out there, $2m on a portal is not wasted money as long as the portal provides value for money spent. Secondly, the amount is not outlandish and beyond what is globally obtainable. Do not let ignorant and partisan people worsen your already handicapped condition. 1 Like |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by greenek: 2:59pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
Throwback: if you follow the thought pattern from previous post, you would understand properly what he is saying.. america used $9m for their government website, take note (the american government). since dollar is the currency of usa, $9m dollars is just $9m dollars. ministry of minning used $2.1m, take note (just a ministry and not the whole Nigeria government). since dollar aint nigeria's currency, we have to convert it amounting to +N700m since you want to compare Nigeria to america, juxtapose our conditions, how much would american government use to design their site? it would amount to $900m.. understand things well before you jump to comment and then, if one ministry used $2.1m for its website, lets say we have 10 ministries in Nigeria, thats about $21m, is Nigeria bigger than the american government? |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by mapet: 3:00pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
clevadani: Bros, With due respect, can you explicate a model to guide on what should be the ideal cost of the project? |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by mapet: 3:01pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
ivandragon: .....for someone who can not even navigate to the correct location of the portal |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by ivandragon: 3:02pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
mapet: doesn't the website have links to what you posted? look, a portal is just a website with a special design (to put it simply)... Mapet, you are one of the few people I respect their opposing views, but don't drag yourself into what you well know is not worth it... hope you recall that this is the same ministry that budgeted almost N1b to purchase computers in 2016... what is wrong is wrong, lets not sugar coat these things... if we all start trying to paint black as white, then even Deziani can be defended... to move forward, a line must be drawn... if you however, insist that the website/portal is worth the amount expended, then lets simply agree to disagree... |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by greenek: 3:04pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
mapet: did i in anyway imply fraud from what you quoted? the comment i implied fraud, didnt i show a link supporting my claim. you can pass out info without insulting one. your field of specialty is not my field of specialty, but clouding your comments in technical terms does no good to anybody other than making you think you are better and making others think that you are a fool who's bad at communicating sanely |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by ivandragon: 3:09pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
Throwback: Lord have mercy... you are dull... you obviously don't understand the concept of value... you are projecting what the site might do after $2m has been sunk & this is all we have to show for it? feel free to defend/justify this obvious shortchanging of Nigeria. |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by ivandragon: 3:12pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
mapet: what is wrong with you chaps? so a fully functional ICT centre is now a website? an ICT centre that provides internet access for over 5000 people daily? haba mapet... you used to be much more thorough in your analysis... when did your standards start dropping to this extent? |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by Throwback: 3:13pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
greenek: Bros you still dey this matter? That N500k you see there is what OND operators will earn in ExxonMobil. Infact with bulk upfront payment, I can guarantee you OND operators in Eket will probably earn over N12m per annum. Let me tell you a true narrative that might help you to disregard all those fictional and conservative salary data you have been researching. Whenever I go to glass door to enquire about some type of pay, you get some feedback. Any attempt to go further will require you to put in your own pay package as a way to continue to build their database of records. At this point, I always turn back, rather than enter my own pay information. Many in my industry are like me, some will even tender any false amount they can think of. Many will never even dissuade you from the false information that you have as fallacy mistaken for fact. Any graduate engineer in any of the oil majors earn more than N1m per month when you look at the total earning for a whole year and divide by 12months. If someone tells you he earns N800k per month but has already received a separate bulk pay of over N10m for the year, is that not over N1.5m per month? Now I am telling you that some will earn that N1.5m minus bulk pay and they have never been promoted and got in as trainee engineers with some of the IOCs. It is left for you to believe or not. Nobody will show you their payslip. Even husbands and wives hide such from each other. Now leaving the entry level, do you know some people earn over $2000 dollars per day working as senior field consultants in deepwater operations for some of the IOCs on 28days rotation, so they only work every other month that equals 6months out of 12 months. Every amount or scenario I have ever given, are of people I know. Do you know that some Nigerians working offshore are not even resident in Nigeria, rather they fly into Nigeria for their 28days rotation and fly back to their family in US, Canada or Europe for the next 28days? Many will never reveal what I have revealed, I also intend to reveal no more than this. |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by ivandragon: 3:16pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
mapet: http://portal.minesandsteel.gov.ng stop being clever by less than half... from the website, I can access any other page or portal on it... |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by mapet: 3:18pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
greenek: 1. If there is no implication of fraud then why are we all on this topic> 2. If you think I am clouding my comments in technical terms after my somewhat elaborate explanations, then what else do you expect me to do? 3. This is not a personal contest. I declared my knowledge earlier on as a premise of my position of argument. FYI I left IT in 8yrs ago, so this I only shared my knowledge covering the period I was in the field. 4. You think I am a fool who is bad at communicating? Sorry about that. I only took your challenge asking me to elaborate.......other than that I suggest you can conveniently avoid me going forward |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by mapet: 3:18pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
ivandragon: You see, this is where we are different. I am here to share and benefit knowledge.......you on the other side see it as attacking and defending power. No wonder you make "intellectual blunders" virtually all the time 1 Like |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by mapet: 3:19pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
ivandragon: Oh! so you have change your position. It is now a portal and not a website....... wonders shall never end 1 Like |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by greenek: 3:19pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
Throwback: okai, thanks for the clarity.. 1 Like |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by mapet: 3:21pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
ivandragon: You backtrack again...... you mean you want to compare an "ICT Centre" with the mine's portal? Oh I forgot, it's merely "website" to you 1 Like |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by dawtune(m): 3:21pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
So many nitwits arguing like dumbheads here, justifying this corrupt act. My forensic analysis of the portal in a while..... |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by ivandragon: 3:22pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
mapet: you are only sharing deception & encouragement to support those who have clearly lost it. the whole debate is has Nigeria gotten value for what has been spent on the so called portal? if the country has spent over $50m & the site provides value for that amount, which should including expanding the sector exponentially, then fine... but coming here to try to coral sane people to support what is clearly money not judiciously spent is a disservice to yourself... |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by ivandragon: 3:23pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
mapet: ok... now I see you are just been a troll... you obviously don't know how to navigate a website... |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by ivandragon: 3:25pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
mapet: you didn't read initially, get the bias out of your head first. I see what you are doing... trying to turn this into a troll fest... lol... |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by dawtune(m): 3:29pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
I was highly impressed with what the website was for. Actually the idea was very innovative. As someone who studied Geology, I immediately keyed into the conceived idea of having an Integrated Automation and Interactive GIS-based Web Portal, coupled with business analytics and statistical data integration, that would be awesome in today's ever growing data analytics. Truly these stuffs cost a lot. So i checked up twitter later on and saw the link to the portal to see things for myself(via NEITI Twitter Handle). http://portal.minesandsteel.gov.ng Lo and behold, I logged in with my phone and did the usual login and the rest. The first thing I noticed was that the GIS-based portal alone was not enabled on mobile. I thought within myself that a portal of such supposed cash-gulping funds should FULLY be Mobile and PC-enhanced. This website, designed to be beneficial to mining investors for payments of royalties, online queries, GIS-based etc should have all its components FULLY supported on Mobile and PC. I didn't let that weigh me down, I opened my PC to access the Website. I was able to see the GIS portal link on the top right of the portal's home page. I was delighted to click on this link, it went through. The next page displayed Web-based GIS maps of the areas of interest (Admin Boundary, Geology, Topology etc). I clicked on to view...... The links were completely truncated. What I saw was quite embarrassing, a page that would later lead to another page where I'd download a picture of 1 kilobyte (1kb) for what he called a GIS-based web portal GIS data maps are high-end quality maps, in megabytes for a good visualization and interpretation. This goes for all the other areas of interest highlighted on the map. The idea was good, but the implementation and set up was horrible. This is so not right, and I'm once again disappointed. 3 Likes |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by clevadani: 3:34pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
swtdrms:It's nice knowing you're a programmer. You should be careful with how you talk to people online, because you have no idea who you're talking to. 10k website? That's laughable. |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by Nobody: 3:40pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
Website is very basic, takes hours to load and no content, .7billion website, how much come be Facebook or amazon
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Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by mapet: 3:40pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
ivandragon: Oh! Seriously Bros, you think I take you serious? |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by ivandragon: 3:46pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
mapet: lol... if you didn't, you wouldn't bother asking that question... take your peacock posturing elsewhere... moth that thinks itself a bird... lol... |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by mapet: 3:48pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
ivandragon: Fantastic, so you and I can rest it. It's not a "power game"........ Miss me |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by ivandragon: 3:48pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
dawtune: & thats the point some of us are making... its not worth the money said to have been spent... its that simple... |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by ivandragon: 3:50pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
mapet: you came to me 'babe'... so, run along now... |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by sonature1: 3:52pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
Throwback: Shvt up! Nigeria is not so rich to afford such website...a country that can't even boast of national database? There's no justification whatsoever for such a huge amount. We are a very poor country with over 70% of the population living on the breadline. Stop justifying stupidity. |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by mapet: 4:24pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
dawtune: Bros, First this is not a contest of wits. Issues you put up here are things a user can report to the support. Conventionally new deployments will undergo some itches while trying to stabilise. As an "ex-professional" I have discovered some flaws, but as someone who has led large implementation projects, user-feedback will help stabilize it once it is in use full-stream. When you earlier said you were going to do "forensics", I was expecting more than this.....but let's keep it simple. Did you get into the "collaboration room"? 1 Like |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by Nobody: 4:50pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
mapet:well thats why i said according to a user here because am not sure, i didnt have time to check all that too but that website you gave me the link to is not even up to par at all. Sir, assuming i wanted to own a website, that looks like that up there, i swear down 100k is more than enough for me. If the website have some certain special functionalities that would have warranted that amount, i wouldnt know. But bro no matter what this website has in terms of functionality or ecstacy, it still does not worth half a million dollars. Anyway, let the govt continue dupping the people they think they are dupping its non of my business as long as i find a way to make my own money. Just imagine the official website of a ministry that make tons of money as profit per month...chai, Nigeria is finished. Am yet to see a website as appealing as www.cnet.com in Nigeria. And even Cnet does not have everything perfect oo. If the govt decided to spend tons of money on a website and at least made it look like Cnet, i wouldnt even complain at all even when i know that the money budgeted for it is soo outrageous. But how can you use 700 million naira to build a website and it still looks like crap? Rubbish. |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by Nobody: 6:25pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
mapet: When you are behind your keyboard, one can confidently make ignorant comments, do you even know me, or what I do and people I've worked with? Did you even bother to ask what I might define as an advanced web application? I'm yet to go through the website fully but I can see its not even mobile responsive. For a 700million naira website? Save yourself the shame even if you were part of the project but this is the internet, you can speak the truth anonymously |
Re: Ministry Of Mines And Steel Spends N700 Million To Develop Portal by Cromagnon: 7:09pm On Nov 10, 2017 |
ivandragon:wherever your bread is buttered. It's not like your ranting will recover the money. |
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