Ok. Weve heard.

Did the bible or Jesus or his disciples ask for tithe?

Afam4eva:
If tithes and offerings cannot buy a private jet, is it now the books written by pastors that only their members read that will buy one? Rogues.

you think its only their members that read their book? Take pastor Adeboye's Open Heaven for example, its been read in over 180 countries all over the world. he also pays his own tithe like every members. He gets paid his allowances like any other pastors in mission, that is if he is collecting it.

Kbanka:
Ok. Weve heard.

Did the bible or Jesus or his disciples ask for tithe?

Did Jesus or his disciples tell you to goto church everysunday or read kingjames version?

aspirebig:
Haba Madam...pls recall that statement if it is true that you said so.



Most of these Pastors have branches worldwide and each branch remits certain amount to the HQ monthly or weekly based on agreement. So be of these monies come in in hard currencies and we have people who earn pretty well as members of these churches.

If one member can build a 1b Naira church and handover anonymously to the church ....do you know how tithe and offering such fellow pays weekly?

In the past,I attend churches,no church,but different churches growing up. All you hear is "Repent,give your life to Christ,Salvation,holiness,last day,judgement day,stop sin,the ten commandments, crusades,envangelism,prayer and fasting,charity work,help the poor, help the sick, the unemployed etc , i mean in the 70s to 80s etc.

Now it is only breakthrough,miracle,favour,sow seed,multiple offerings,divine blessings,tithe,generational blessings,convenant seed,Cross generational anointing etc.

Pastors then were not rich,flamboyant, wealthy or even showing "worldly" riches like now.Some babes then do even like marrying pastors because they don't want to "suffer"......


God help us....o

But tithe and offerings aren't paid into pastors personal accts na, or have you forgotten that they pay pastors worldwide?

slowie:

you think its only their members that read their book? Take pastor Adeboye's Open Heaven for example, its been read in over 180 countries all over the world. he also pays his own tithe like every members. He gets paid his allowances like any other pastors in mission, that is if he is collecting it.

Iis open heaven more read than Things Fall Apart or the King James version of the bible? Are they the only writers in the world. Even the writer of Harry porter that sold her books to film studios for millions of dollars are not flying private jets. Open heavens ko, closed hell ni.

But it can buy jeeps, pay for bodyguards and provide good meals.

Caseless:



Pulpit fraudster, will you shut your mouth?


If tithe doesn't buy jet, what does it buy? Akara and bread abi?


Mechi onu dia.

Pant and bra

darlenese:
shhhh madam shut up

kneel down and close your eyes .


don't defend what u have no idea about .

She is correct,
Or u think your N20 offerings can really buy jets?

Is it the law of nature Christians follow or the law if the Bible ? These pastors have been asked to support their tithe collection with scriptural backing - all they come up with are sentimental arguments - tithe can’t buy jet blah blah blah

dvkot:
GOD BLESS YOU. david, jacob, moses, abraham, esau, solomon,esther,zaccaus, issac, paul, even jesus, which of God followers is poor biko nu? how is prosperity a sin? when silver and gold belong to him..
you pay tithe and offering if you av money...
give and it shall be given unto you, is the law of nature concerning money

Afam4eva:

Iis open heaven more read than Things Fall Apart or the King James version of the bible? Are they the only writers in the world. Even the writer of Harry porter that sold her books to film studios for millions of dollars are not flying private jets. Open heavens ko, closed hell ni.

Unlike those books you mentioned, different version of open heaven is produced every year. and always sold out! maybe you have never written a complete article in your life.

I guess this is the best these fraudsters can come up with. Cut throat capitalist system is being practiced in churches.
When about 85% of all revenue generated by a local assembly is remitted to the head quarters. Take for instance Mountain of fire or Redeem that has more than 10,000 branches worldwide. Assuming each local assembly generates only a #100,000 a month. Which is extremely conservative. That's #850 million going to the GOs and his business partners on a monthly basis.
And according to them tithe and offering can't buy private jet. I really wonder what else buys the private jet for them. Is it the books they mandate the local assemblies to buy?

Only fools leave proves and pursue after arguments.
Everybody pays tithe wether you like or not, wether you know it or not. You either pay to God or to the devil.
The devil always takes more than necessary.
The choice is yours...

gabinogem:
If u get hundred thousand adult church members(excluding children oh) and all of dem pay tithes as low as one thousand naira, abeg pastor blessing tell me how much e go sum up & tell me how much be private jet

that's just maintenance fee.

If tithing and offerings don't buy private jets, then what does? Abi u dey sleep with rich politicians?

EDIBLESS10:
was Jesus poor?have u forgotten dat he rode on d horse.and palm leaves were placevon d ground for him to walk on..or are good tins of life only meant for pegans...y are u guyz always pained on d God u believe He does not exist..pls anti-Christ liv us alone

Jesus wasn't poor buh he was humble. Why wasn't he born in a world class clinic? And please Jesus Christ can't be equated to your GOs

Daddy Freez, Thank u o, Daddy Freez has quoted the scriptures and defeated all of u, please please defeat him by quoting the bible too. . . If 1000 members pay tithe of 10k in a month,
1000 times 10,000 -- 10million already. In three months, that can buy u a Benz G-Wagon. . . The simple truth is that u dont need to pay tithe before God will Bless you. . I stand with FREZ

I dont want to tell her to shut up.... she does not know what she is saying... so where do all those pastor get money to fund their expensive life styles... I know a large number of them launder money for politicians and but a point of correction Mrs Agboli tithes and offering emanating from Nigerian churches can buy some countries. Ask Adeboye...ask oyedepo... ask olukoya.. tell your husband to give up all he has acquired using tithes and offering of church members and then stop collecting tithes and offering in your church and let's see how u will survive. Rubbish

The suffering in the country is beginning to make people's eyes open in this country.

DEOLINX:

1st Timothy 2: 11-12

11 Let a woman learn in silence with full submissiveness. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man, but she is to remain silent

How many Pastors and Mummy's do we know in Jesus's preaching sojourn on earth?


Tithes went with the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross for our salvation.....Anyone exercising faith in Jesus are true followers of the Bible.

Tithes are reasons we have many churches today ....they preach prosperity and not salvation.

Tithes are surely the reasons why most pastors break up from their masters to set up their own churches.They only preach prosperity instead of salvation. Most even condemn one if that person is not paying tithes to them.

How many of those poor ones have they given food and accommodation as the likes of Prophet T. B Joshua does? He owns no private jet and mansions but yet gives out to the poor and the needy irrespective of your places of worship.Muslims, pagans and Christians.

IamtherealRita:
This woman should shut up and focus on her husband

Why are you always vexing anytime this type of news is posted...na your mouth she dey use, abi the husband tell you say she is not focused?

100000 members with 10000 naira tithes each would give u 1billion

.............That we are pastors does not mean we should be poor.” i think she is right, but what then is there source of income?

silasweb:
Enough of these debate. Paying tithe is all about what you believe

no it's not..go and give your money to the poor... daddy freeze ask that you provide for the poor and people around you but these Yahoomen ask you to bring the money to them, who are you believing?? Use ur head

Triniti:
From ‘Daddy’ downwards, it’s a cause for concern that our ‘fathers in the lord’ have been unable to muster a scripture-based response to Freeze’s simple questions. These are people that many Nigerians follow with all their lives. And they can’t defend a teaching they hold dear.

it's really a big shame and disgrace to the body of Christ... Just one single scripture they can backup their claims with? Where are we heading to ??

asuustrike2009:

It wouldn't even buy it talk less of maintaining. If you say a single member buying it for the pastor then it's an issue not kobo kobo tithe that can't even build a church.

you buy a private jet for a pastor in a nation that lives on less than 90cents daily and you see nothing actually wrong with that then you need to see someone

felixomor:

She is correct,
Or u think your N20 offerings can really buy jets?

u think everyone is like u


msheeeeew

what's this one saying.... must she speak? by their words we know them... pastor indeed

Abudu2000:
you buy a private jet for a pastor in a nation that lives on less than 90cents daily and you see nothing actually wrong with that then you need to see someone

I didn't say it's right to buy private jets either

idu1:


Some members pay as high as 200k tithe you know?

200k? I have seem one who tithes 2m that's not among the offering of like 10k per Sunday...this is someone who's elder brother is living in abject proverty and starvation, he has beggers in his street gate but will give nothing. He would rather even buy drinks for agberos...... misplaced priorities,

It will be easier for Muhammadu Buhari to produce his WAEC certificate than for pastors to agree even without biblical backing that tithe is not compulsory. This is a lesson to church goers and christians alike, they are scamming u. Shine ur eyes. Don't give tithe, but rather give for the promotion of the kingdom. t

Priscy01:
The spouse of the General Overseer of The Victorious Army Ministries International in Lagos, Pastor (Mrs.) Blessing Agboli, has debunked the claims that most church leaders with private jets acquired them using the tithes and offerings gathered from their members.

Speaking at a press conference in Lagos, Pastor Agboli stated that private jets are so expensive that no amount of tithes and offering can buy them.

In her own words,
“Offerings cannot buy private jets. You cannot just park a jet without making a business out of it. Owning a private jet is not a sin and those who have them should never be apologetic. I don’t think offerings can buy jets. I don’t think pastors also should apologize for making and spending money. That we are pastors does not mean we should be poor.” she said.

http://www.torimill.com/2017/11/and-offerings-cannot-buy-private-jets.html

slowie:

you think its only their members that read their book? Take pastor Adeboye's Open Heaven for example, its been read in over 180 countries all over the world. he also pays his own tithe like every members. He gets paid his allowances like any other pastors in mission, that is if he is collecting it.

okay I believe you 80% do you have any proof to back up all these facts you just named? I mean do you expect me to just swallow up the lies like I'm one of your sheeples or what? Ordinary verse to even defend you position on tithes you people can't, na hunger go wire una very soon, poeple are becoming wiser

felixomor:

She is correct,
Or u think your N20 offerings can really buy jets?

how about yourself that pay 5k per Sunday, have you ever been to the ophanages or which begger have you raised from the gutter