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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 12:22pm On Nov 14, 2017
raumdeuter:
You remember one wise man who told everyone here that football is a sport for young people and the riot that followed.
Some tools even gave us examples of basketball players and this same Italian team.

Can i ask why you are using 30yrs as a benchmark and not 45 or 52
Weyrey cheesy cheesy I see you are here to turn amala again.....abeg when the ewedu and obe ata or omi obe with better bokoto, eja aro and egufe ready... kindly invite me to come chop grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 12:23pm On Nov 14, 2017
Eruditor:
Roberto Martinez.

When Hazard was out injured Belgium still played quality football.
You lied. Hazard returned from injury during international break and he played too
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 12:25pm On Nov 14, 2017
Eruditor:
LOL, guy no fear. Because it is an advantage that is exactly why it is a talent - same way Hazard's dribbling is an advantage or KDBs passing. Only that while the latter 2 "talents" I described are technical talents, a player's height is a physical one. Remember;

1. It is natural or God-given.
2. It presents one with the capacity to do something with it.

The boxing aficionados know this but would rather play devil's advocate.

Notice how fraudiola is no longer being used this season as oft as it was brandished last time - the name has gone back to Pep. Even you are guilty of this grin

Men will arrange when the time is right. They are just butt hurt that I alluded that their beloved so-called WPOTY (so-called because he is not there) may be less-talented than KDB.
Height is not a talent, it is a physical attribute just like dick length, foot size, nyash size etc.

The word talent is a synonym for skill - and skills are things that can be developed with practice. You can improve your pace by practice. You can improve your jumping by practice. Your passing, dribbling, etc.

You cannot improve your height by practice. And because you cannot improve your height, nobody will ever say Player A is better than Player B because of his height.

When they say Player A is better aerially than than Player B, they are referring to the jumping ability which is trainable talent, not the height. Lukaku is 6'4 and notoriously poor in the air, Tim Cahill is 5'10 and was famous for his aerial ability.

Ronaldo is 6'1 and Jumps higher 7cm higher than the average NBA player.

Height is not a talent.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Eruditor: 12:27pm On Nov 14, 2017
hensben:
You lied. Hazard returned from injury during international break and he played too
So when Hazard was injured Belgium did not play?

So all the teams playing quality football world over Hazard plays for them?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Eruditor: 12:38pm On Nov 14, 2017
Nihilist:
Height is not a talent, it is a physical attribute just like dick length, foot size, nyash size etc.

The word talent is a synonym for skill - and skills are things that can be developed with practice. You can improve your pace by practice. You can improve your jumping by practice. Your passing, dribbling, etc.

You cannot improve your height by practice. And because you cannot improve your height, nobody will ever say Player A is better than Player B because of his height.

When they say Player A is better aerially than than Player B, they are referring to the jumping ability which is trainable talent, not the height. Lukaku is 6'4 and notoriously poor in the air, Tim Cahill is 5'10 and was famous for his aerial ability.

Ronaldo is 6'1 and Jumps higher 7cm higher than the average NBA player.

Height is not a talent.

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There is a distinction between talent and skill. They are not the same. Skills can be worked on but talent not invariably so. You can Google "Talent vs Skill" and you would see this.

I know my claim sounds ridiculous because I used a word many don't attribute to height but we can play a little trick and remove talent and place the word "gift" in its stead. I guess I don't sound ridiculous anymore?

A player can be technically gifted same way he can be physically gifted. People just tend to prefer the former because that one seems more precipitated by hard work and training whereas the latter is acquired by genetics or happenstance. I know you know this because your English and bent for research is better than some of the other trolls.

Please, just search for physical talent and see what turns up. I can present one definition and a corresponding link:

To have talent is to possess the ability to excel within a field (either physically or psychologically), generally with much more ease than the majority of the population. Talent often stems from superior genetic inheritance, but can only really be harnessed through hard work and determination.
http://sportsscientists.com/2013/11/what-is-talent-your-definitions-and-thoughts-from-david-epstein/

I know my claim is nuanced but I am wholly convinced that I am right.

In light of this, I respectfully reject that L.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 12:40pm On Nov 14, 2017
diggz:
Weyrey cheesy cheesy I see you are here to turn amala again.....abeg when the ewedu and obe ata or omi obe with better bokoto, eja aro and egufe ready... kindly invite me to come chop grin
You should pick on lordfalcao who was listing players above 30 as if they're too old to play football when Roger Mila went to the world cup at 42 African age possibly 50 real age.

I heard buffoon sef might be retiring at the young age of 39. When Roger Mila was still active
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 12:47pm On Nov 14, 2017
Eruditor:
There is a distinction between talent and skill. They are not the same. Skills can be worked on but talent not inadvertently so. You can Google "Talent vs Skill" and you would see this.

I know my claim sounds ridiculous because I used a word many don't attribute to height but we can play a little trick and remove talent and place the word "gift" in its stead. I guess I don't sound ridiculous anymore?

A player can be technically gifted same way he can be physically gifted. People just tend to prefer the former because that one seems more precipitated by hard work and training whereas the latter is acquired by genetics or happenstance. I know you know this because your English and bent for research is better than some of the other trolls.

Please, just search for physical talent and see what turns up. I can present one definition and a corresponding link:



http://sportsscientists.com/2013/11/what-is-talent-your-definitions-and-thoughts-from-david-epstein/

I know my claim is nuanced but I am wholly convinced that I am right.

In light of this, I respectfully reject that L.
Talent stems from genetic inheritance does not mean Talent = Generic inheritance.


Even your post says Talent = Ability. Height is not ability.

Hazard is short and has a low centre of gravity, which means he's naturally better at changing directions rapidly at great speed. This natural advantage couple with his ball control is what makes him a talented dribbler.

His low centre of gravity also means he can accelerate very quickly from a standing position . This natural advantage makes Hazard a talented sprinter.

What Hazard is not is talentedly short.

Talent = Skill. It's even in the dictionary. It's in Wikipedia.

There is no nuance to your ridiculous submission. If height is a talent, then eye colour and nostril width must also be talents. The diameter of dopejemi's anus must be a talent.

We will forcefeed you this L till you choke on it and runaway from here.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 12:49pm On Nov 14, 2017
raumdeuter:
You should pick on lodfalcao who was listing players above 30 as if they're too old to play football when Roger Mila went to the world cup at 42 African age possibly 50 real age
Lol.....Na so cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 12:51pm On Nov 14, 2017
Nihilist:
Talent stems from genetic inheritance does not mean Talent = Generic inheritance.


Even your post says Talent = Ability. Height is not ability.

Hazard is short and has a low centre of gravity, which means he's naturally better at changing directions rapidly at great speed. This natural advantage couple with his ball control is what makes him a talented dribbler.

His low centre of gravity also means he can accelerate very quickly from a standing position . This natural advantage makes Hazard a talented sprinter.

What Hazard is not is talentedly short.

Talent = Skill. It's even in the dictionary. It's in Wikipedia.

There is no nuance to your ridiculous submission. If height is a talent, then eye colour and nostril width must also be talents. The diameter of dopejemi's anus must be a talent

We will forcefeed you this L till you choke on it and runaway from here.
Blaaad of dopejemi shocked shocked bwuahahahaha cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 12:51pm On Nov 14, 2017
This is because talent is one’s ability to adapt to training and develop skills in their specialized field. Talent exists when strong genetics and a desire to practice come together to create superior ability for a specific activity.
From the very link you posted.

Talent has to be trainable. If you cannot train to be tall, it cannot be a talent. if you cannot train to be short, it cannot be a talent.


LL
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Skimpledawg(m): 12:53pm On Nov 14, 2017
grin grin grin

Dopejemi, you got a soft mail down town cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 12:55pm On Nov 14, 2017
raumdeuter:
With all these argument people are making in favour of Belloti I really want Chelsea to buy him and lets see how it will end.

I dey take one eye look forwards from Italian league, DO you remember all the guys Man City wasted their money on when dem first hammer, Bojinov, Bianchi, Bernado Corradi. When I look at the curious case of Ciro Immobile one of the buys who got Klopp sacked

20+ goals in Torino
5 league goals foor DOrtmund
3 league goals for Sevilla
20+ goals back for Lazio
Assuming Immobile didnt travel out too, thats how someone will be pricing him for 70M

That guy wey dey do Rabonna for Spurs, Lavezzi, Pastore Darmian all looked hot n Italy
Italian NT sef, who are the genuine talents under 30 aside Verrati

Lucatoni dey win top scorer at about 40yrs old
Didnt even know a bigger embarassment was in the works for Italy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 12:56pm On Nov 14, 2017
Nihilist:
From the very link you posted.

Talent has to be trainable. If you cannot train to be tall, it cannot be a talent.

LL
But you can train to have bigger nyansh. the only talent you said Hazard has over KDB

So swallow this LLLafun cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 12:56pm On Nov 14, 2017
Eruditor:
So when Hazard was injured Belgium did not play?

So all the teams playing quality football world over Hazard plays for them?
No. there was no international game
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 12:58pm On Nov 14, 2017
raumdeuter:
But you can train to have bigger nyansh. the only talent you said Hazard has over KDB

So swallow this LLLafun cheesy
So you be one of those guys wey dey gym your nyash? grin

Dayo how many kg you dey squat?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 12:59pm On Nov 14, 2017
Nihilist:
So you be one of those guys wey dey gym your nyash? grin

Dayo how many kg you dey squat?
Na godgay be that or godstraight dey bench 200 poubds with his nyansh
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Eruditor: 1:02pm On Nov 14, 2017
Nihilist:
Talent stems from genetic inheritance does not mean Talent = Generic inheritance.


Even your post says Talent = Ability. Height is not ability.

Hazard is short and has a low centre of gravity, which means he's naturally better at changing directions rapidly at great speed. This natural advantage couple with his ball control is what makes him a talented dribbler.

His low centre of gravity also means he can accelerate very quickly from a standing position . This natural advantage makes Hazard a talented sprinter.

What Hazard is not is talentedly short.

Talent = Skill. It's even in the dictionary. It's in Wikipedia.

There is no nuance to your ridiculous submission. If height is a talent, then eye colour and nostril width must also be talents. The diameter of dopejemi's anus must be a talent.

We will forcefeed you this L till you choke on it and runaway from here.
If a pawnstar has long d!ck, many will say he is gifted. That is his physical gift to start with and many times such gifts are inherited genetically which the definition I posted above said.

If he cums faster than the Cops in a white neighborhood do that just means he is lacking the technical aspect of his gift. But with the right training he can work on it and be better.

I know about Messi and Hazard's low center of gravity but sadly, in our biased world, we do not view being short as a physical gift. Same way we do not view Morata's lack of stamina as a gift. However, players like him, Hazard, Messi and David Silva who seem to lack this physical gift compensate ably with their technical gifts and we respect them for it. It still does not detract from the fact that being tall in football (like other sports) is regarded as a physical talent gift.

I won't get drawn into the talent vs skill debate so much because I am sure you know that one website or dictionary does not possess the exclusive rights to define anything.

Others can go online and conduct their own research to see the subtleties between talent and skill and the subdivisions of talents - no matter how ridiculous it sounds....to you.

I resist this undeserved L with the strength of 100 virile horses and rest my case.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 1:03pm On Nov 14, 2017
Is it true that the last world cup Italy went beyond the group stage was 2006 world cup

They have met giants like New Zealand Costa Rica Slovakia and Paraguay in these 2 world cup groups

Italy be like all those park the bus team wey go do strong head vs big teams because those will come out and they can hit on counters, when they meet a lesser team that expects them to actually attack, they dont have any practised attacking moves to open anyone up
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 1:09pm On Nov 14, 2017
Eruditor:
If a pawnstar has long d!ck, many will say he is gifted. That is his physical gift to start with and many times such gifts are inherited genetically which the definition I posted above said.
length of dick is exactly the same as length of body.

You cannot say a person is talentedly short or talentedly tall. You cannot say a person is talentedly long dicked. You can however say a porn is talented at lasting long.

Your own article has told you that Talent refers to an attribute that is trainable. If even your own evidence disagrees with you, then you may soon need to join the lallana clan.

LLL
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Eruditor: 1:11pm On Nov 14, 2017
hensben:
No. there was no international game
Did he not get injured playing for Belgium? Was it not during a training that he got injured? So the game they were training for they did not play it?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Eruditor: 1:22pm On Nov 14, 2017
Nihilist:
length of dick is exactly the same as length of body.

You cannot say a person is talentedly short or talentedly tall. You cannot say a person is talentedly long dicked. You can however say a porn is talented at lasting long.

Your own article has told you that Talent refers to an attribute that is trainable. If even your own evidence disagrees with you, then you may soon need to join the lallana clan.

LLL
All short players cannot dribble like Hazard and Messi. That ability to dribble is God-given but it can be harnessed. This qualifies as a technical talent.

KDB and Fabregas can kick a ball in a way that Bakayoko can't. Sure, Baka can kick a ball but without the same finesse or accuracy. He lacks that technical gift.

Technical talent is the subdivision of talent that can be trained or worked on. There is another subdivision called psychological talent. It is why some players will opt to take the first or last penalty of a dire game whereas the most technically gifted of them may cower from it.

The subdivision I am referring to is called physical talent or gift. Some players just naturally look the part. They are tall, strong, sturdy and so on. This talent is not worked on or trained for. You either have it or you don't.

My evidence supports me. I would sign only 3 autographs before I leave.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 1:24pm On Nov 14, 2017
Eruditor:
You can list them out for yourself and be honest.
you are doing the listing. Continue and don't be biased. Also, try to use statistics where possible.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nihilist: 1:28pm On Nov 14, 2017
Eruditor:
The subdivision I am referring to is called physical talent or gift. Some players just naturally look the part. They are tall, strong, sturdy and so on. This talent is not worked on or trained for. You either have it or you don't.

My evidence supports me. I would sign only 3 autographs before I leave.
You can train to improve your strength. You can train to gain muscle and become sturdy. You cannot train to add an extra centimetre to your height.

From your own link

This is because talent is one’s ability to adapt to training and develop skills in their specialized field. Talent exists when strong genetics and a desire to practice come together to create superior ability for a specific activity.
LLLL.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 2:04pm On Nov 14, 2017
Eruditor:
Of course his rating will improve - he is a very good player.

Same way Isco's rating has improved. But Isco is not WPOTY and nobody is calling him that.

But look at what people are doing on here.
so, you think isco can't win world best or baloon d'or? Is it because of messi and Ronaldo presence that is still holding others.
Is it not, Iniesta, ribery, nueur, Neymar, griezzman and bale that have all made it to third one time or the other?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 2:06pm On Nov 14, 2017
raumdeuter:
You remember one wise man who told everyone here that football is a sport for young people and the riot that followed.
Some tools even gave us examples of basketball players and this same Italian team.

Can i ask why you are using 30yrs as a benchmark and not 45 or 52
and how old were the ones conte took to quarter final last year?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 2:08pm On Nov 14, 2017
raumdeuter:
The type of quality football at the world cup that knocked them out or at the euros that crashed them out to Wales and Robson Kanu
and where was KDB when all these were happening?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Leyqute(m): 4:03pm On Nov 14, 2017
Greatihex:
so, you think isco can't win world best or baloon d'or? Is it because of messi and Ronaldo presence that is still holding others.
Is it not, Iniesta, ribery, nueur, Neymar, griezzman and bale that have all made it to third one time or the other?
This statement is very confusing.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Kalapizim(m): 4:05pm On Nov 14, 2017
oboy super eagles are experimenting a 3-5-2 formation today o
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 4:24pm On Nov 14, 2017
Greatihex:
and how old were the ones conte took to quarter final last year?
Direct your query to the poster who quoted their ages and tell him to explain what he meant
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 4:26pm On Nov 14, 2017
Greatihex:
and where was KDB when all these were happening?
Hazard is a black hole who sucks creativity out of the team. If they dont get rid of him they wont achieve anything. Chelsea wont win another CL if they depend n Hidden.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 4:49pm On Nov 14, 2017
raumdeuter:
Hazard is a black hole who sucks creativity out of the team. If they dont get rid of him they wont achieve anything. Chelsea wont win another CL if they depend n Hidden.
lol. Oga raumdeuter! I salute you.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 4:50pm On Nov 14, 2017
raumdeuter:
Hazard is a black hole who sucks creativity out of the team. If they dont get rid of him they wont achieve anything. Chelsea wont win another CL if they depend n Hidden.
Dayo dayo grin grin
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