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Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by petra1(m): 6:45am On Nov 14, 2017 |
Candour: He has always been his God . |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by MuttleyLaff: 7:55am On Nov 14, 2017 |
Candour: petra1:Yes, there was a culture to pay tithe. There was culture to pay tithe, which Jacob was aware of, even before the Law was given to the Israelites to begin giving tithe Abraham paid this tithe according to that prevailing culture aound that Mesopotamia area of that times Abraham, I know, paid tithe, and the Israelites, because of the vow Jacob made, I know too, paid tithe. Jacob didnt physically as a person, do or fulfil doing the tithe part vow he made to God Abraham paid tithe to Melchizedek, we know. The Israelites paid tithes to the Levites, we know. petra1 who did Jacob give or paid this wishful thinking and without proof, tithe to? When Samuel's mother, Hannah, made a vow, we see in the bible when she fulfilled it When Jephthah made a vow, we see in the bible when and how he fulfilled it petra1, my dear brother kindly show in an acceptable & convincible manner where, when, and how Jacob fulfilled his tithe part vow please and who Jacob handed over the tithe to? 4 Likes |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by Goshen360(m): 9:15am On Nov 14, 2017 |
petra1: You people never seize to surprise anyone because you want to defend tithe....now, ask felixomor if he agrees with you here that the spoils of war were Abraham income and profit before I expose both of you together. 3 Likes |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by ichuka(m): 10:32am On Nov 14, 2017 |
Candour:Fine bro Presumed u n ur family are good 1 Like |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by Candour(m): 10:43am On Nov 14, 2017 |
petra1: Like he has always been Shekau and Al Baghdadi's God whether they acknowledged him or not. When did he become God to Jacob? I'm sure you can tell when your relationship with God started? When did Jacob's own start? 3 Likes |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by Candour(m): 10:44am On Nov 14, 2017 |
ichuka: Yeah bro. Thanks 1 Like |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by Ken4Christ: 1:35pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
Goshen360: So, because he is an Apostle, he cannot make mistakes. There is a difference between a revelation he got from the Holy Spirit and trying to analyze what was already written. Apostle Paul had the greatest revelation concerning what Jesus did for us but on his comment concerning the tithe Abraham paid, I don't agree with him. |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by Ken4Christ: 1:39pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
plainbibletruth: I think you are not honest enough to admit my submission. I made a point and backed it up with Scriptures. Please explain the Scripture to me if you know better. How can Abraham pay tithe from the Spoils he vowed not to collect? Please answer this question. If you can, I will admit I am in error. |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by plainbibletruth: 2:00pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
Ken4Christ: Hebrews 7:4 says Abraham tithes from spoils. You say it is not. I pitch my camp with Hebrews. When a person is not humble enough to accept his faults or shortcomings it is difficult for him to be taught. It's not about winning arguments. It's about knowing and ACCEPTING God's view on any issue. 3 Likes |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by betterABIAstate: 2:05pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
Ken4Christ:so there's a mistake in the Bible 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by Peacefullove: 2:07pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
Ken4Christ: , Do you just say there is mistake in the Bible ? You mean God gave a mistaken Revelation to Paul ? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by Peacefullove: 2:12pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
Ken4Christ: Goshen360!!!! see your fellow brethren. and wetin paul say una should do to people wey no agree with wetin Im write ? 1 Like |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by PaChukwudi44(m): 2:25pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
CHAI BECAUSE SOMEONE WANTS TO COLLECT TITHES SOME PORTIONS OF THE BIBLE SUDDENLY BECOMES MISTAKES!!! CHAI CHRISTIANITY HAS REALLY SUFFERED 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by petra1(m): 3:40pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
Candour: So when did he become his God . |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by Candour(m): 5:24pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
petra1: Gen 28 20.Then Jacob made a vow, saying, “If God will be with me, and keep me in this way that I am going, and give me bread to eat and clothing to put on, 21.so that come back to my father’s house in peace, then the Lord shall be my God Jacob was the son of Isaac and grandson of Abraham but like his twin brother, Esau, he was just like any pastor's child who had no relationship with God even though God already had a plan for his life before he was born. He was like any other rebellious youth. The dream he had changed his outlook and made him vow to do what he hadn't being doing prior to that time. If God fulfilled his part, only then would the LORD become his God and he promised to give a tenth of whatever profits came his way in Syria. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by Goshen360(m): 5:38pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
Ken4Christ: Because they ain't his income as your people peddle. The man Abraham said the spoils doesn't belong to him, and returned the rest to the rightful owners. How else can you interpret that? Not that you explained backing up with scriptures....you twisted scriptures so it will say what you wanted to say. Hebrews CONFIRMED what Genesis said but again, you called the revelation of the Holy Spirit to Paul a lie or mistake, again just because Hebrews didn't agree with you on what you trying to make Genesis say... 5 Likes |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by Goshen360(m): 5:42pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
Peacefullove: Me don tire ooo...After now, when I call them by their names some folks will say I'm demon possessed n calling fellow Christian name because we don't agree but what else should a person who insult the Spirit of inspiration of scriptures be called if not tithe yahoos? 3 Likes |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by Goshen360(m): 5:49pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
Ken4Christ: My friend shut up and leave your thread in shame. What are you saying and kept on saying? All in the bid for tithe yahoos? So he made mistakes BY THE INSPIRATION OF GOD. ...to pen down what constitutes scriptures today? So what he analyzed wasn't by the REVELATION OR INSPIRATION FROM THE SPIRIT? And who are you not to agree? Just as you can go ahead and write your own scriptures then, the same way you Re writing the scriptures now. This is the highest insult to the inspiration of scriptures in your pride. 5 Likes |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by Ken4Christ: 6:04pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
Goshen360: You don't have to insult me to drive home your point. You think the Apostles are not humans like you and me. Even in the Bible days, sometimes the Apostles have disagreement which they sort out. Are you aware some of the submission of James contradicts Apostle Paul’s teachings? Apostle Paul read the account of Genesis like I did. He gave his analysis based on what he understood by the transaction that took place. His analysis had nothing to do with the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. After all, the Apostles cast lot to choose an apostle to replace Judas Iscariot. Is casting lot scriptural? They erred in that respect. I am a thorough Bible student and I don't just make comments. If you want to dispute my argument, please answer this question. How can Abraham give a tenth of the spoils he vowed not to have anything to do with? I am waiting for your response. |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by Ken4Christ: 6:14pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
All Scriptures are inspired by the Holy Spirit doesn't mean every single line contained in the Bible. The Bible also contains even statements credited to Satan. Will you say such statements were inspired by the Holy Spirit because it is in the Bible? Even a donkey spoke and it was recorded. So, you have to read between lines to know who is talking and what is inspired. Inspiration simply has to do with a revelation of things not revealed to the physical senses. Only God could tell us that. Some account in the Bible are just historical and there are bound to be errors in such cases. Even the four gospels record are not exactly the same in some documented stories. Stop over flogging the issue of inspiration. Our Lord Jesus even had two prophecies that failed because he was 100% human on earth and didn't know all things. If you know me, you will ask to know more. I am not a road side Christian or a Pastor who deceive people to get their money. I stand by the truth of God's word which the present day Church is yet to fully grasp. |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by MuttleyLaff: 6:32pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
Ken4Christ:He doesn't really mean it Ken4Christ:Give a few examples please Ken4Christ:Please don't make another gaffe Casting lots, for your information, is scriptural Ken4Christ:I will like to engage a thorough Bible student that you are. Are you game? Ken4Christ:This is an invalid question because you've conflated things up 2 Likes |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by christemmbassey(m): 9:15pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
Ken4Christ:OMG! I thought I have heard all the twists that these guys had to support this fraud. SMH, these guys are beyond redemption. 4 Likes |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by ichuka(m): 10:52pm On Nov 14, 2017 |
christemmbassey:lol hi bro Don't mind them, A tree without roots can't stand. Just little breeze from Freeze they are all scared. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by Goshen360(m): 2:16am On Nov 15, 2017 |
christemmbassey: Did you read yet what he said Paul made a mistake in Hebrews 7? 3 Likes |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by Ken4Christ: 3:40am On Nov 15, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff: Oh, it is a valid question because it is the basis of my submission to what I wrote. U know what I said is true and you cannot refute it. |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by perousd: 4:07am On Nov 15, 2017 |
Ken4Christ:lol. but you agree with your pastor? Lolz. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by plainbibletruth: 7:02am On Nov 15, 2017 |
perousd: How I wish he'll understand what you're saying; he swallows what his pastor says hook line and sinker but when it comes to the Apostle of Apostles he disagrees with him. The height of arrogance! 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by openmine(m): 7:06am On Nov 15, 2017 |
When U think U have heard the last manipulation of scriptures by tither,U den get a shocker....lol It was initially Malachi 3:10 they hinged on but were countered by Deuteronomy 14:22-29 Yet they went down memory lane,and used Abraham's so called tithe to Melchizedek as platform to tithe forgetting dere was no single laid down tithe law before d coming of d mosaic law! When they were choked out of those scriptures,they resorted to emotional blackmail and psychological manipulation....U will hear quotes like "Where do U think d church gets the money to buy d AC or fuel the generators U enjoy wen U get to the church?" or "I don't care where my tithe goes to" or the popular "Is it ur money?" And when i tot that was how low they could go.... I never believed it will get to a stage where tithers will start questioning sum scriptures of Paul simply because it runs contrary to what they blindly believe!! Chai chai 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by truth4u: 7:27am On Nov 15, 2017 |
felixomor:People like you make people believe that Christianity is a scam |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by dalaman: 7:29am On Nov 15, 2017 |
Goshen360: Felixomor, he called you an Olodo tithe yahoo. truth4u: Another one says people like you make people believe christianity is a scam. The resident mor0n. Your fellow christians are even tired of your matter. |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by dalaman: 7:40am On Nov 15, 2017 |
Ken4Christ: Felixomor, you've asked me to show you a christian that agrees that there are errors in the bible. Here is one, the OP. He even openly disagrees with Paul's narration of an event. Next time stop using your Akuya sense and think you represent all christians. There are many christians that agree that there are errors inside the bible, but that doesn't mean they aren't christians. Felixmoron |
Re: Abraham Didn't Pay Tithe From The Spoils Of The War To Melchizedec. by MuttleyLaff: 8:07am On Nov 15, 2017 |
Ken4Christ:Give a few examples please Ken4Christ:8He is to cast sacred lots to determine which goat will be reserved as an offering to the Lord and which will carry the sins of the people to the wilderness of Azazel. 9Aaron will then present as a sin offering the goat chosen by lot for the Lord. 10The other goat, the scapegoat chosen by lot to be sent away, will be kept alive, standing before the Lord. When it is sent away to Azazel in the wilderness, the people will be purified and made right with the Lord - Leviticus 16:8-10 I told earlier you're making another gaffe Casting lots, for your information, is scriptural, as seen in Leviticus 16:8-10 above There are other scriptures in the bible apart from Leviticus 16:8, where God, at given situations, had approved and recommended "casting lot" as suitable for discovering His will, so considering that, I disconcur with your comment, that the apostles erred in that respect (i.e. that the apostles erred in casting lots) Ken4Christ:It is an invalid question because you've mixed up the basis of your submission and this has lead you to making false summations and an incorrect conclusion Ken4Christ:I immediately knew that what you said is not true On the contrary, what you said, is as easy as a walk in the park, to refute I understood you said, you're a thorough Bible student and one, for that matter, who doesnt make careless comments These are admirable qualities, you posess Engaging a self-confessed thorough Bible student that you are, who don't just make comments, is a chance of a lifetime It isnt always one gets to meet a self-acclaimed thorough Bible student and that's why, in an earlier post, I wrote that, I will like to engage you Are you game? 2 Likes |
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