igbodefender:

Yes we know...it was the same era that brought Obasanjo to Power both as military ruler and civilian ruler

HiddenShadow:



Nigerians don't have a choice.


It is either you support Igbo presidency or their Biafra will stand.


As for 2019, the Igbos should not take sides but eat ofe Nsala on that day and wait for their turn.

And what happens if others decide to eat amala & tuwo when the time comes in 2023?

buchilino:


MR MAN, IT'S IGBO NOT IBO

Are you suffering from identity crisis? All the books I've read, including Achebe's have written it as Ibo. When did it become igbo?

Bishop4real:


And what happens if others decide to eat amala & tuwo when the time comes in 2023?

The real question is who is even the Ibo candidate that is acceptable to the rest of the country, is it Rochas or Ekweremadu? Presidency will come to SS and SW at least once EACH before Ibo can even sniff presidency, when you consider that in between that will be 2 northern presidents, you are talking about 32 years.

spartacus11:


After you support and give pdp your vote for 20 years and you want APC to give you the presidential slot when they have not gotten your support once

How can that work? Explain

And Ibo man almost single handedly form a PDP party that OBASANJO, Yoruba man used to climb to power, how did that work.?

You sincerely wanted every region to vote APC and turn Nigeria to "one party state " ,how does that work , explain?

And what was on offer to woo Igbo to vote APC, apart from the same senate presidency they had under PDP ? Seriously how does that work , you give south west vice president and give South East mere senate president which Ngige was not even sure of winning and you want them to vote massively in support of APC who does that? How does that work I asked

konoplyanka:


Are you suffering from identity crisis? All the books I've read, including Achebe's have written it as Ibo. When did it become igbo?

UNFORTUNATELY ACHEBE IS LATE, U NO ENLIGHTEN IGBOS, Y NOT ASK DEM D SPELLING.

The Igbos can never produce a president and the reason is simple. The Igbos are not united and will not rally behind one candidate rather they will all present themselves as candidates. Look at small Senate Presidency they gave them, we had almost 4 senate presidents because they kept impeaching themselves.

Secondly believe Buhari at your own peril. This is a man who in his first term did nothing for the Igbos but now is coming to beg for votes and promising an Igbo presidency. Is the presidential slot his to give? I really do not understand Nigerian politics! So if APC fields an Igbo candidate and another party fields a Northern candidate and that other party wins, what happens?

I will be the president in 2023. Make sure you vote for me.

Chukazu:


After Obasanjo ruling for solid eight years and still trying to steal another through 3rd term, and still Osibanjo in vice presidency for four or possibly eight years and still not enough for South West ba?...
If that is not greed tell me what to call it?

This is why I support an Arm struggle/Power agitation in South East, OPC did it for West, NIGER DELTA MILITANTS did it for South,and BOKO HARAM did it for Buhari and North ,we can't be left out.

Somebody's plan is to turn south east from majority group to a minority gruop ,it won't happen my lifetime!

Who is your candidate?

You can't threaten any region to vote your candidate. Politics is a game of numbers. If you can't play it, sit and watch. Threats will never work!

Stylz69:
The Igbos can never produce a president and the reason is simple. The Igbos are not united and will not rally behind one candidate rather they will all present themselves as candidates. Look at small Senate Presidency they gave them, we had almost 4 senate presidents because they kept impeaching themselves.

Secondly believe Buhari at your own peril. This is a man who in his first term did nothing for the Igbos but now is coming to beg for votes and promising an Igbo presidency. Is the presidential slot his to give? I really do not understand Nigerian politics! So if APC fields an Igbo candidate and another party fields a Northern candidate and that other party wins, what happens?

@ your second point, Buhari has not promised the Igbo presidency. It's the Igbo promising the Igbo presidency if they vote Buhari. I call it a waste of time!

Chukazu:


And Ibo man almost single handedly form a PDP party that OBASANJO, Yoruba man used to climb to power, how did that work.?

You sincerely wanted every region to vote APC and turn Nigeria to "one party state " ,how does that work , explain?

PDP was not the creation of a single Ibo man stop claiming credit for what is not yours

https://constative.com/politics/pdp-formed-founding-fathers

In addition Atiku who inherited Shehu Musa Yaradua's political machinery was a major block in the PDP. In any event what is the benefit of the chest beating that you "created PDP" if after 16 years you could not get the presidency of vice presidency which is your aim? Now again Atiku is courting you to be vice president and that's as good as it gets assuming Atiku can even win.

My observation of Ibo politics (in general) since independence is that Ibo politician have always abandoned principles and sold out for power even if it is crumbs on offer, they will always take the junior role in a coalition just to be at the table. As a result they keep getting used, Just like Zik who was nothing more than a ceremonial president with no real power, Ekwueme was a Vp and youve read his bitterness about not being given the opportunity to be president and a similar fate will befall any IBO VP, he will serve his time as VP but ultimately will be rejected as president. Rochas is actually one of the few Ibos who understands Nigerian politics, unfortunately, he has no base and in any event he is not an acceptable candidate.

To cut a long story short, you dont seem to understand how this thing works, it is a numbers game and APC does not need the SE vote because it has the north and SW on lockdown, For the SE to produce an Ibo president it needs votes from every other region. Like I said Ibos dont know how to play politics. You do not make noise, make demands and threaten people from a position of weakness. It's a numbers game and Ibos dont have the numbers for the gra-gra they make.

chemali:


Who is your candidate?

You can't threaten any region to vote your candidate. Politics is a game of numbers. If you can't play it, sit and watch. Threats will never work!

You want to chose my candidate ?

What a myopic question?

Is there any senatorial zone in Nigeria that can not produce a presidential candidate,let alone an entire Geo political zone,3rd largest ethnic groups ,as in seriously?

Sorry to ask o, dis KWUNU replaced Flatinnoes brain with his urine or what.. .

They keep saying give us Igbo presidency as if it's chieftaincy title. ..

If you don't work for it, and build credible alliance across the board, una go wait tire. ...

geometricaxis:



PDP was not the creation of a single Ibo man stop claiming credit for what is not yours

https://constative.com/politics/pdp-formed-founding-fathers

In addition Atiku who inherited Shehu Musa Yaradua's political machinery was a major block in the PDP. In any event what is the benefit of the chest beating that you "created PDP" if after 16 years you could not get the presidency of vice presidency which is your aim? Now again Atiku is courting you to be vice president and that's as good as it gets assuming Atiku can even win.

My observation of Ibo politics (in general) since independence is that Ibo politician have always abandoned principles and sold out for power even if it is crumbs on offer, they will always take the junior role in a coalition just to be at the table. As a result they keep getting used, Just like Zik who was nothing more than a ceremonial president with no real power, Ekwueme was a Vp and youve read his bitterness about not being given the opportunity to be president and a similar fate will befall any IBO VP, he will serve his time as VP but ultimately will be rejected as president. Rochas is actually one of the few Ibos who understands Nigerian politics, unfortunately, he has no base and in any event he is not an acceptable candidate.

To cut a long story short, you dont seem to understand how this thing works, it is a numbers game and APC does not need the SE vote because it has the north and SW on lockdown, For the SE to produce an Ibo president it needs votes from every other region. Like I said Ibos dont know how to play politics. You do not make noise, make demands and threaten people from a position of weakness. It's a numbers game and Ibos dont have the numbers for the gra-gra they make.

Try to read before you comment, I never said Ibo man formed PDP

Chukazu:


Don't just make remarks because it feels good to do so.
That line ..."worst enemy" bla bla is over flogged , irrelevant and most deceptive political gimmick anyone can come up with and it's outdated,you can't defend it either.




Obasanjo, PDP
‘’Obasanjo was in Yola Prison, he had no idea how we formed the party and what it was formed for, but they foisted him on us as a President and leader of the party, and they converted the party into his personal fiefdom, and that is where the party’s destruction started.’’

On Buhari coup

‘’I was Vice-President for four years and three months and under our zoning system in the NPN. Chances were high that in 1987 that I might have been the candidate of the party for the presidency. Umaru Dikko gave a press interview in London after the coup of December 31, 1983 that all the talk about corruption was just hogwash that the coup took place because they wanted to stop me from being president in 1987 and that they didn’t want to wait until it was too close that it would be too obvious.’’


Alex Ekwueme's words on MARBLE


now we know better

It’s normal, they will always shove the Ibos aside when it comes to the issue of the Presidency

Chukazu:


Try to read before you comment, I never said Ibo man formed PDP

I suggest next time you let the blood rush subside, think about what you are writing before you post, you said "And Ibo man almost single handedly form PDP" according to that list there were only 2 Ibo men (Ekwueme and Nwobodo) out of the original 34 who formed PDP


There is nothing "almost single handedly" in 2 out of 34

geometricaxis:



PDP was not the creation of a single Ibo man stop claiming credit for what is not yours

https://constative.com/politics/pdp-formed-founding-fathers

In addition Atiku who inherited Shehu Musa Yaradua's political machinery was a major block in the PDP. In any event what is the benefit of the chest beating that you "created PDP" if after 16 years you could not get the presidency of vice presidency which is your aim? Now again Atiku is courting you to be vice president and that's as good as it gets assuming Atiku can even win.

My observation of Ibo politics (in general) since independence is that Ibo politician have always abandoned principles and sold out for power even if it is crumbs on offer, they will always take the junior role in a coalition just to be at the table. As a result they keep getting used, Just like Zik who was nothing more than a ceremonial president with no real power Ekwueme was a Vp and youve read his bitterness about not being given the opportunity to be president and a similar fate will befall any IBO VP, he will serve his time as VP but ultimately will be rejected as president. Rochas is actually one of the few Ibos who understands Nigerian politics, unfortunately, he has no base and in any event he is not an acceptable candidate.

To cut a long story short, you dont seem to understand how this thing works, it is a numbers game and APC does not need the SE vote because it has the north and SW on lockdown, For the SE to produce an Ibo president it needs votes from every other region. Like I said Ibos dont know how to play politics. You do not make noise, make demands and threaten people from a position of weakness. It's a numbers game and Ibos dont have the numbers for the gra-gra they make.

Another heights of deception.
Isn't it obvious that Ibo have always avoided regional politics and instead pursued national integration?and you people still talk about baseless game of number?

You seriously wished AZIKIWE to go with AWOLOWO and leave the North out of government?

Even when you Know politics has always been between North , south West and south East as at then; and you want two southern regions ,east/west, AWOLOWO/AZIKIWE to form government and leave the North out of power? Can you see how inequitable we can view situations just to favor us?

There's a lot of igbo culture being promoted in the Igbo-British community. Have a look at their channel, they are trying to keep the language alive..




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTyt1IqD6hk

geometricaxis:


I suggest next time you let the blood rush subside, think about what you are writing before you post, you said "And Ibo man almost single handedly form PDP" according to that list there were only 2 Ibo men (Ekwueme and Nwobodo) out of the original 34 who formed PDP


There is nothing "almost single handedly" in 2 out of 34

And is " almost " the same as what you were alleging ?
Is that too much of a grammar to grasp?

If I say "he almost did" ...is that same as "he did"?

Have said this before, igbos need to support buhari 2019, it will be so selfish of Yorubas to oppose Igbo 2023. Am a typical yoruba man but Igbo too need to produce president. The problem is that Igbo lack political acumen required to discern the political calculation on ground. If atiku should win or any other party he will spend 8years in d office again. Igbos use this opportunity

Chukazu:


And is " almost " the same as what you were alleging ?
Is that too much of a grammar to grasp?

If I say "he almost did" ...is that same as "he did"?

stop trying to be too clever by halves, we alll know what you were trying to insinuate or else why bother making the statement?

dlaw70:
Let any competent person rule Nigeria.
Tribe means nothing.




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Chukazu:


Another heights of deception.
Isn't it obvious that Ibo have always avoided regional politics and instead pursued national integration?and you people still talk about baseless game of number?

You seriously wished AZIKIWE to go with AWOLOWO and leave the North out of government?

Even when you Know politics has always been between North , south West and south East as at then; and you want two southern regions ,east/west, AWOLOWO/AZIKIWE to form government and leave the North out of power? Can you see how inequitable we can view situations just to favor us?

My friend you are clearly ignorant of the facts, i suggest you try to read and not get your history from tales under the mango tree.


Awolowo offered Zik the position of prime minister making Zik the more powerful and Awo the ceremonial precedent, but Zik rejected it because he feared (and supposedly also advised by the British) the educated yorubas would be in competition and as there were less educated Northerners he would dominate the North in key positions.. and that was what happenned..for a while, .all the juicy civil service jobs were occupied by ibos and that is partly what started the Northern distrust of the Ibos so instead of citing key facilities which were meant to go to the east Balewa stopped or moved them to the North. Dont get ne wrong, I dont necessarily blame Zik at the time because Awo had previously pulled a fast one on Zik in the local Western region elections denying Zik the chance to be premier of the Western region. At the time I can understand his choice but history has shown it not only to have been the wrong decision but once for which the country ultimately never recovered.

As for numbers, Awolowo actually had a substantial following in the North but not enough to win without the Ziks help. By the same token because the North was fragmented Balewa needed a partner from the south. Middle belt had always been partial to Awolowo and there were other progressive politicians in the North at the time. Northern politics was actually fragmented in those days and still is there has never really been a block northern vote just that they have the biggest numbers, never in the history of Nigeria has one party swept the whole North in the same way a single party has swept the SW or SE. and so you always need some voptes from the north even if only a minority. The North cannot win without alliance with a section of the south and the south (assuming they are united) need only a small section of the north. It's basic political maths.


Like i said dont take my word for it read up.

U mean Ibos will use apga to win presidency or how are they going to achieve it.

Since sofa is not syllable the only option is for ibis to align with Pdp with atiku and get vice president slot..
Waiting till 2023 for Ibo presidency is a scam....
U cannot trust Bulgari to give u Brafia. The hatred is still deer.

Ibos aligning with atiku is only hope now....

Iceman2017:
The problem of Nigeria is zoning presidency. No longer capable hand. Nigeria will keep dwelling in poverty and backwardness until we realise that the best pattern of moving a country forward is looking for a capable hand and not just trying to please a particular tribe.
In a sane country, a dullard like buhari has no business in government. But he's from the north nah

leave pple with goat talk how did obasanjo presidency benefited d average Yoruba man....we shd be talking about having a country dat work optimally and functionally not Al this useless nepotistic attitude dat benefit a few idiots....

SillyMods:
I honestly like to see an Igbo man rule Nigeria. Though I hate the attitude of blackmailing and lack of respect for others by the Igbos.

And whatever tribe you're from is free from this right?

geometricaxis:


My friend you are clearly ignorant of the facts, i suggest you try to read and not get your history from tales under the mango tree.


Awolowo offered Zik the position of prime minister making Zik the more powerful and Awo the ceremonial precedent, but Zik rejected it because he feared (and supposedly also advised by the British) the educated yorubas would be in competition and as there were less educated Northerners he would dominate the North in key positions.. and that was what happenned..for a while, .all the juicy civil service jobs were occupied by ibos and that is partly what started the Northern distrust of the Ibos so instead of citing key facilities which were meant to go to the east Balewa stopped or moved them to the North. Dont get ne wrong, I dont necessarily blame Zik at the time because Awo had previously pulled a fast one on Zik in the local Western region elections denying Zik the chance to be premier of the Western region. At the time I can understand his choice but history has shown it not only to have been the wrong decision but once for which the country ultimately never recovered.

As for numbers, Awolowo actually had a substantial following in the North but not enough to win without the Ziks help. By the same token because the North was fragmented Balewa needed a partner from the south. Middle belt had always been partial to Awolowo and there were other progressive politicians in the North at the time. Northern politics was actually fragmented in those days and still is there has never really been a block northern vote just that they have the biggest numbers, never in the history of Nigeria has one party swept the whole North in the same way a single party has swept the SW or SE. and so you always need some voptes from the north even if only a minority. The North cannot win without alliance with a section of the south and the south (assuming they are united) need only a small section of the north. It's basic political maths.


Like i said dont take my word for it read up.

Am a history student, I don't have a mango tree as you ascertained .
You well know that , among the three regional leaders of AWOLOWO, AZIKIWE and Ahmedu BELLO ,ZIK was by far the most nationally inclined and there was no way he would have accepted to leave the North out of power and we are making some assumption because the first republic was truncated,if it had succeeded BALEWA probably would have offered ZIK the premiership for a second term so, it baffles me when you guys still try to use such againt Ibo by saying Ibo don't Know how to reach out to other region, they are their worst enemy catch phrase...those are lies

geometricaxis:


You are wasting your time, I want an Ibo man to be president but the reality is that it wont happen, Ibos are their own worst enemies and have set themselves back a generation. Ibos dont know how to play politics, politics is about numbers, if you dont have numbers you reach out build trust and form alliances not antagonize the very people whose votes you need for your cause.


I hope you now understand the damage Kanu and IPOB and all the hate speeches has done to the Ibo cause.

With all your presidency and vice presidency, has poverty and underdevelopment left whatever region you're from? Is your life circumstances better than that of average Igbo man? You're just talking as if having the presidency has answered the question of poverty, inequality and unemployment in your region.

geometricaxis:


stop trying to be too clever by halves, we alll know what you were trying to insinuate or else why bother making the statement?

I made a logical statement,What you think of "my insinuation is your business"

geometricaxis:


I suggest next time you let the blood rush subside, think about what you are writing before you post, you said "And Ibo man almost single handedly form PDP" according to that list there were only 2 Ibo men (Ekwueme and Nwobodo) out of the original 34 who formed PDP


There is nothing "almost single handedly" in 2 out of 34

Of all the questions I raised you couldn't answer one , your only problem is "insinuation"?

You forgot there was "G14" before group of 34 ...you avoiding the ones you can't defend?

AntiWailer:
If Igbo politicians know what is good in their interest.

They should support Buhari with a precondition that Ibo will produce President in 2023.

Any other northerner now will want to spend another 8 years.

As usual they are myopic and just want to eat something right now.

and who told you they need the presidency does one need it to succeed in life be careful young man