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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 7:22pm On Dec 19, 2017
snowstormm:
Hazard is the better mildfielder but neymar is the best forward?...lmao,I also think hazard is the better defender smh


neymar has more assists,more dribbles,more chance created than hazard...and how is hazard who is playing as a false 9,mildfielder?....and neymar is who playing behind cavani is more a forward than neymar?


foolish opinions dey this thread
can you show us stats to prove that Neymar completes more dribbles and creates more chances than Hazard?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by snowstormm(m): 7:32pm On Dec 19, 2017
Greatihex:
can you show us stats to prove that Neymar completes more dribbles and creates more chances than Hazard?
Yes..but 4 last season...should I provide it?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by eph12(m): 7:34pm On Dec 19, 2017
atheist5:
raneiri is ahead of conte and guardiola nor of them can win the league with that Leicester squad especially pep,you dey Alright now?
Why were u now protesting before? As your logic has failed you now, you now realize how useless Conte is. See as you played yourself

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Emaprince: 7:34pm On Dec 19, 2017
Eruditor:
So did Jardim in Monaco and now they have crashed out of the UCL this season. Your point ?
My point is that pep reduced a champions league semi finalist to a team that couldn't go past the round of 16. The same way he reduced a treble winning Bayer team to Spanish teams semi final bittch
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by atheist5(m): 7:44pm On Dec 19, 2017
eph12:
Why were u now protesting before? As your logic has failed you now, you now realize how useless Conte is. See as you played yourself
more like how useless pep is ,started season like igodomido last season only to fail like akpa bobo
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Eruditor: 8:04pm On Dec 19, 2017
Emaprince:
My point is that pep reduced a champions league semi finalist to a team that couldn't go past the round of 16. The same way he reduced a treble winning Bayer team to Spanish teams semi final bittch
The way Jardim reduced his own team from UCL Semis to group stage.

The same way Enrique reduced his treble winning squad to a double the next year.

Do you see how asinine it sounds?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 8:05pm On Dec 19, 2017
snowstormm:
Yes..but 4 last season...should I provide it?
no, not just last season. Make the comparison over long period of time.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Emaprince: 8:13pm On Dec 19, 2017
Eruditor:
The way Jardim reduced his own team from UCL Semis to group stage.

The same way Enrique reduced his treble winning squad to a double the next year.

Do you see how asinine it sounds?
Actually, you have no point.

You called it 'his own team'... Which means he took them to that level. So he can be forgiven. You should also consider the fact that he lost most of his best players like mbape etc.

How about pep? Pep took over another man's sweat and hard work.. and reduced it to nothing.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Nobody: 8:17pm On Dec 19, 2017
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by snowstormm(m): 8:28pm On Dec 19, 2017
Greatihex:
no, not just last season. Make the comparison over long period of time.
I don't know abt dat
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by VargasVee(m): 8:38pm On Dec 19, 2017
Eruditor:
That is 2006/07 after they won the UCL and league in 05/06. Pep took over 2008/09. Try another story.

A team that finished 1st, 2nd and 4th (tied with 5th placed team) is on decline in any world.

That was the team he inherited in City.

Wipe the egg off your face.
Eruditor:
LOL.

Juve had been in Serie A finishing 7th 2 times before Conte. Conte is a good coach but please....please....

Juve won the league last, 5 years before Conte.

Barca were 3rd in Spain behind RM and Villareal. They were 18 points behind RM. They crashed out of the UCL semis to United. They had won nothing in 2 years.

If this team above is top 5 in the world, then Monaco is top 3 in the world.


Arsenal invicibles cannot be compared to that Conte's Juve. One team was imperial and elegant, the other was mechanical and brutish. That is why nobody talks about Conte's Juve till date.

City finished 4th before Pep came.

Use whip cream to eat your humble pie.
This was you disputing their being at the top 5 them 2 years of struggle. Go through the link till Pep took over.

Declining team that made their first semi-final in UCl?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by eph12(m): 8:40pm On Dec 19, 2017
atheist5:
more like how useless pep is ,started season like igodomido last season only to fail like akpa bobo
This time last season all of you dey hail Conte as master tactician now he's struggling to keep his job
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by atheist5(m): 8:45pm On Dec 19, 2017
eph12:
This time last season all of you dey hail Conte as master tactician now he's struggling to keep his job
he was also struggling to keep his job at the beginning of last season,so justchelsea things
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Eruditor: 8:56pm On Dec 19, 2017
Emaprince:
Actually, you have no point.

You called it 'his own team'... Which means he took them to that level. So he can be forgiven. You should also consider the fact that he lost most of his best players like mbape etc.

How about pep? Pep took over another man's sweat and hard work.. and reduced it to nothing.
I have not read a stupider rejoinder in my life.

If another manager had replaced Jardim it is people like you that would have said he destroyed Jardim's work.

Who destroyed Pelle's work when he went from 1st to 2nd to 4th? A manager that finished higher than his last season and 13 points better reduced whose work?

Who forgave him? Sheikh Mansour that replaced him? Oh Jardim should be but Pep should not be for inheriting a decrepit defence from Pelle?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 9:02pm On Dec 19, 2017
dopeJemi:
Man Utd
You definitely re trolling. Man Utd has a better squad than City?
LOL
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by larride(m): 9:11pm On Dec 19, 2017
dopeJemi:
did he not add to the squad? Was pep's problem last season not the defense? Has he not fixed that? have the players not improved from last season? is it not the same attackers from last season that are still there this season?

Has he not made the best out of the squad?

Pep came and met aging legs in his squad, especially in the defense and that was his greatest undoing, because his attackers were firing on all cylinders last season, he has fixed the defense this season and his attack is still firing, how is that not making the best out of your squad? Why did mourihno not make the best out of his squad last season? after all, we were the highest spenders
If you want to draw me into your Pep vs Mou argument, you re on a long thing. It's only in your head that Man Utd has a better squad than City.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Branzy(m): 9:15pm On Dec 19, 2017
Today marks 2 years since José Mourinho was sacked at Chelsea. He nearly relegated us, turned fans against Eden Hazard, Costa and Fabregas. Sold our young players KDB and Sallah, even sacked the most beautiful doctor in football Dr Eva Carneiro.

Ladies and gentlemen, we present you the minister of bus parking *Jose Mourinho* �����though will forever be remembered in our history as the great

Long live Chelsea�
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by eph12(m): 9:26pm On Dec 19, 2017
atheist5:
he was also struggling to keep his job at the beginning of last season,so justchelsea things
Was it not last season he joined Chelsea?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Eruditor: 9:27pm On Dec 19, 2017
VargasVee:
This was you disputing their being at the top 5 them 2 years of struggle. Go through the link till Pep took over.

Declining team that made their first semi-final in UCl?
What hogwash are you talking about?

Your link showed 2006/07. If you have their ranking for 2008 bring it that is the level that Pep took Barca from.

Show us how that Barca team would be top 5 when United, CFC, RM, Bayern, Liverpool, Intermilan, AC Milan even Villarreal that finished above Barca in the league.

Just like Leeds that made a UCL semi final too and got relegated 2/3 years after. If you want to see if a team is on the up, you look at their antecedents. City went from 1st (beating most of the top teams) 2nd (iffy performances) 4th (could not beat any of them).

So hold unto UCL Semi final. Just like CFC holding unto their own after finishing 6th in the league. When that team was clearly aged and declining.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hardeycute(m): 9:29pm On Dec 19, 2017
Branzy:
Ladies and gentlemen, we present you the minister of bus parking *Jose Mourinho* �����though will forever be remembered in our history as the great
Long live Chelsea�
Positives only

The greatest coach in your history
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by JayKayMaybachz(m): 9:36pm On Dec 19, 2017
This back n forth arguement about Pep is so becoming boring & stale

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by atheist5(m): 9:43pm On Dec 19, 2017
eph12:
Was it not last season he joined Chelsea?
lol,I still remember when we lost to Liverpool and arsenal and they were serious bombs in Chelsea camp,if we didn't miraculously turn the result the following weeks ehh,infact in Chelsea and real Madrid your job is not safe when titles don't come,conte will still be a goner this season though,roman nor dey waste time
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by dopeJemi: 9:57pm On Dec 19, 2017
patrickmuf:
Valencia = Walker, Young/Shaw are not as good as Mendy and Delph has been great as a LB much like Young. Aguero is better than Lukaku and Jesus is more valuable and at the moment better than Ibra (emphasis here isn't on the name but the impact of each on their respective teams), De Bruyne is better than Pogba, Bernardo Silva (Only God knows why you left out David Silva) is better than Rashford, it's not all about Pace, B. Silva is 5 times more intelligent than Rashford. We've not talked about Sterling, Gundam etc

Over to Chelsea, Morata isn't better than Aguero, Mendy is better than Alonso, KDB is better than Fab, Silva is better than Pedro, Kante vs Fernandinho is down to a coaches preference, Fernandinho is more of a 4 than Kante who is box to box...Hazard is boss as is Courtios.

At Liverpool, Mane =Sane, Aguero is better than Firming, Silva/KDB is better than Coutinho. Salah is boss.
Thanks
Why are you comparing Lukaku and Aguero? Jesus and Ibrahimovic? compare them according to age and mins they are getting.. it's ibrahimovic Vs Aguero and Lukaku Vs Jesus.. Aguero is better than Both Aguero and Jesus, Lukaku is better than Jesus but not Aguero.. Ibrahimovic, Aguero, Lukaku and Jesus, this is the Order


Bernando Silva is not better than Rashford, right now, clubs will pick rashford first before looking at B. Silva, is Sterling better than Martial? No. De bruyne is not better than Pogba

I have stated several times that De bruyne and D.Silva are the best in their positions right now, Chelsea has Hazard, kante, courtoise and Azpilicueta, Mendy Vs Alonso is debatable


explain to me how Mane = Sane? is Aguero even the best striker in the League? No
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by dopeJemi: 10:03pm On Dec 19, 2017
larride:
You definitely re trolling. Man Utd has a better squad than City?

LOL
Apart from De bruyne, Silva and maybe Aguero, can you list how the players in that city team that are better than the ones in United?

Mendy
Walker
Stones
Delph
Otamendi
Sane
Fernandinho
Ederson
Sterling
Jesus
B. Silva

please feel free to compare these players with ours and tell me who they are better than in our squad

De gea
Jones
Bailly
Valencia
Young/shaw
Matic
Lukaku
Martial
Rashford
Mata
Mkhitaryan
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m):
Someone wants us to believe Pep inherited rubbish squad from Rijkaard with Spain's Euro-winning midfield of Xavi, Iniesta with Lionel Messi, Samuel Eto, Yaya Toure, Thierry Henry, Puyol, Abidal on deck. I just named 8 players that could arguably walk into a World 11.

Only thunder will fire Rijkaard for using this team to concede title to Capello with Guti, Jose Antonio Reyes, Julio Baptista, Emerson, Robinho and co.

Same with Man City, Pellegrini has always been a soft-spoken underachiever, a coach who grossly underachieved, and was actually a 3 year placeholder for Pep and had no power. Pellegrini severely underachieved just like Rijkaard. I am not saying this now, I have been saying it for years.

Pep has never inherited an underdog team. Anytime he is underdog, they whip him 5-0.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by pkasso(m): 10:29pm On Dec 19, 2017
You people still dey on top this Pep argument. Una dey try o.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 10:34pm On Dec 19, 2017
As of 2008, when Pep took over Barca:

Name one Real Striker better than Eto. Infact add Henry.

Name one Real winger better than Messi. Reals best player was Robben.

Name any Real midfielder better than Xavi. Then add Iniesta and Yaya Toure. Real were parading Guti, Momo Diarra and Emerson!

Defence - Abidal and Puyol vs Cannavaro, Ramos and Pepe. That is the only area Real just shaded Barca.

So anybody that says Pep did not inherit the best team in Spain (and the world) is a Goddamn buffoon. Barca had by far the best players, just managed by the sloven drunk Rijkaard whose only other record on CV is relegating Sparta in Holland and getting sacked by Saudi Arabia.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 10:35pm On Dec 19, 2017
Ayotomiwa Dele Bashiru subbed on for Man City
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by dubylhover(m): 10:36pm On Dec 19, 2017
dopeJemi:
Why are you comparing Lukaku and Aguero? Jesus and Ibrahimovic? compare them according to age and mins they are getting.. it's ibrahimovic Vs Aguero and Lukaku Vs Jesus.. Aguero is better than Both Aguero and Jesus, Lukaku is better than Jesus but not Aguero.. Ibrahimovic, Aguero, Lukaku and Jesus, this is the Order


Bernando Silva is not better than Rashford, right now, clubs will pick rashford first before looking at B. Silva, is Sterling better than Martial? No. De bruyne is not better than Pogba

I have stated several times that De bruyne and D.Silva are the best in their positions right now, Chelsea has Hazard, kante, courtoise and Azpilicueta, Mendy Vs Alonso is debatable


explain to me how Mane = Sane? is Aguero even the best striker in the League? No
bro are you actually serious or just trolling,give me a reason y ibrahimovic is better than aguero..
as for b.Silva,is it because hes on city bench,how can you compare a technically gifted player like him with rashford..honestly is rashi better than zaha? is it cos Manu has poor quality that rashford finds time to play steadily..

how is sane not as good as mane? speed?trickery?creativity? what exactly...sane is as good as you can get....
for the fact a player plays for d club you support doesn't mean he's d best..compare rashford,martial,lingard with sterling,sane,b.Silva..then you understand the difference in quality....

rashford that still doesn't have football understanding on when to run Nd when to pass? that's who is being compared to bernardo Silva..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Emaprince: 10:45pm On Dec 19, 2017
Ibrahimovic better than Aguero? Nawao
Is it ibrahimovic of today or are we comparing their achievements?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by VargasVee(m): 10:50pm On Dec 19, 2017
Eruditor:
What hogwash are you talking about?

Your link showed 2006/07. If you have their ranking for 2008 bring it that is the level that Pep took Barca from.

Show us how that Barca team would be top 5 when United, CFC, RM, Bayern, Liverpool, Intermilan, AC Milan even Villarreal that finished above Barca in the league.


Just like Leeds that made a UCL semi final too and got relegated 2/3 years after. If you want to see if a team is on the up, you look at their antecedents. City went from 1st (beating most of the top teams) 2nd (iffy performances) 4th (could not beat any of them).

So hold unto UCL Semi final. Just like CFC holding unto their own after finishing 6th in the league. When that team was clearly aged and declining.
Where's the sense in what you posted?

So because they finished ahead in their various leagues the season, they're suddenly better?

Argue all you want but we both know it was Rijkaard that set up the Barcelona Guardiola rode on.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by dopeJemi: 11:18pm On Dec 19, 2017
dubylhover:
bro are you actually serious or just trolling,give me a reason y ibrahimovic is better than aguero..
as for b.Silva,is it because hes on city bench,how can you compare a technically gifted player like him with rashford..honestly is rashi better than zaha? is it cos Manu has poor quality that rashford finds time to play steadily..

how is sane not as good as mane? speed?trickery?creativity? what exactly...sane is as good as you can get....
for the fact a player plays for d club you support doesn't mean he's d best..compare rashford,martial,lingard with sterling,sane,b.Silva..then you understand the difference in quality....

rashford that still doesn't have football understanding on when to run Nd when to pass? that's who is being compared to bernardo Silva..
How well did you know B.Silva in Monaco? Do you know that Rashford is one of the highly rated players below 21? is B.Silva rated anywhere as anything?

As for Aguero and ibrahimovic, the record speak for itself, all round, ibrahimovic is better than Aguero, Was it not ibrahimovic that scored 50 in France aged 33, came to England aged 34 and scored 28? is there a record that puts Aguero ahead of ibrahimovic?

Mane is above Sane, this is not even debatable, Mane has been consistent from his Southampton days


If Man City has the best squad, why do we have more players from other teams in the just concluded awards and nominations than City? after all, you guys claim they have the best squad
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