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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by EvilMetahuman: 1:47pm On Dec 20, 2017
hardeycute:
Number of clean sheets kept by Chelsea was not instigated alone by Moses.Chelsea plays with 6/7 defensive outfield players + Thibaut in goal.
Give me the number of interceptions, tackles won,aerial duels won,fouls suffered,successful crosses, and chances created from his overlapping runs
like I said, I don't judge players based on stats. Stats can be deceiving and it can be used to shit on any players.
I judge player based on his contributions to the team's success. And if you have noticed, that's how its been done for most european players.
I only use stat when both players are on the same level. E.g, judging kane vs lukaku in a season.


Moses had great game wining moments last season.

Arsenal at some point switched to chelsea's formation, they still couldn't do what chelsea did.

AFCON that Nigeria did failed to qualify for.
well done. I see what you did there. wink
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 1:53pm On Dec 20, 2017
elrony:
Abeg how many times dem play under Pep last season? undecided

You shoulda said something like "Pep inherited a squad of UCL semi-finalists" who lost to superior eventual winners Real Madrid grin

Abi that one no follow? cheesy
DId he not inherit them? Were they not players of City when Pep joined? That he chose not to use them did not mean he didnt inherit them

So if you inherit rotary telephone from your grandfather, and you dont use it does it take away the fact that you inheroted it
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 1:56pm On Dec 20, 2017
chic2pimp:
The term "overrated" has a different meaning to you and me then. No one has called Bonucci one of the greatest defenders of all time. Heck you'll name shyte loads of italian defenders before getting to Bonucci however in this current market, He is rated just fine.

Buffon and Neuer have played for Great Teams may be we should also discard their achievements too. Let's See How highly rated they'd have been had Buffon stayed at Parma or Neuer at Schalke. Right now we know both of them as two of the greatest keepers of all time BECAUSE THEY PLAYED UNDER GREAT SYSTEMS FOR SUCCESFUL TEAMS.

Twist it whatever way you want but most footballing pundits,Organisations and Fans recognise Terry as a great Defender. As for Luiz He had a great season last year but He has so far has been unable to replicate it this year. A few more years of Luiz playing anywhere close to How He played last year, He'll start getting rated Highly.
Buffon was already a great keeper before joining Juve, He was Italian number 1. Same with Neuer he was German number 1 at Schalke

Bonnuci has been called a top 5 defender here. Many people will list him as one of the top defenders recently he only benefitted from cover from his Juve community defence. Individually he is a poor defender which is what he is showing now at Milan. Just like Terry who enjoyed the cover from more illustrious teammates. Which is why he has been extremely useless when away from the Chelsea setup

Below is an example

patrickmuf:
Godin, Pepe, Bonucci, Pique, Ramos, T. Silva, Toby Alderweireld and Luiz are all currently better than Boateng...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hardeycute(m): 2:00pm On Dec 20, 2017
EvilMetahuman:
like I said, I don't judge players based on stats. Stats can be deceiving and it can be used to shit on any players
Agreed
I judge player based on his contributions to the team's success. And if you have noticed, that's how its been done for most european players.
I only use stat when both players are on the same level. E.g, judging kane vs lukaku in a season.


Moses had great game wining moments last season
He was instrumental no doubt and kudos to him for his adaptation to his new role

Arsenal at some point switched to chelsea's formation, they still couldn't do what chelsea did.

well done. I see what you did there. wink
We have many average players out there. If Moses a wingback is the only shining light
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:02pm On Dec 20, 2017
This is a troll by Milan fans who are thoroughly dissapointed in Bonnuci that they organized a facebook event to celebrate the masterclass

mockery. In fact, shortly after the end of Milan's 0-0 draw with AEK, a new Facebook event invited thousands of users to attend "Bonucci's masterclass

And 10,000 Milan fans signed up to attend the mockery of Bonnuci with a few hours

Anyoen can google this "AC Milan Fans Create Hilarious Facebook Event to Rinse Flop Signing Leonardo Bonucci After AEK Draw"

I dont want to post the link because of spambot. If Milan fans are singling out Bonnuci for being a flop
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by chic2pimp(m): 2:16pm On Dec 20, 2017
raumdeuter:
Buffon was already a great keeper before joining Juve, He was Italian number 1. Same with Neuer he was German number 1 at Schalke

Bonnuci has been called a top 5 defender here. Many people will list him as one of the top defenders recently he only benefitted from cover from his Juve community defence. Individually he is a poor defender which is what he is showing now at Milan. Just like Terry who enjoyed the cover from more illustrious teammates. Which is why he has been extremely useless when away from the Chelsea setup

Below is an example
Being German,Italian,Brazilian,Spanish or French No1 means diddly squat. It might just have been a barren period in that position for that particular team.

What I am saying is that they attained their legendary status by Playing with Great Teams under Great Managers playing alongside other Great Players. Do you see how many times I use the word "Great" not "Mediocre"?. My point remains they would be nowhere as highly rated as they currently are if they had remained at their former clubs.

He is not a poor Player. He is simply playing under a Terrible system whilst being coached by a wasteman. Which Terry? The same Terry that went to the Worldcup in 06 and played very well?.

Lastly we can't deny Leo was one of the Top 5 Central Defenders at some point in time. Arguing against that is simply lying to yourself. As for the quote itself, you'll have to take issue with the Guy that wrote that as you know my Position on Boateng.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:21pm On Dec 20, 2017
chic2pimp:
Being German,Italian,Brazilian,Spanish or French No1 means diddly squat. It might just have been a barren period in that position for that particular team.

What I am saying is that they attained their legendary status by Playing with Great Teams under Great Managers playing alongside other Great Players. Do you see how many times I use the word "Great" not "Mediocre"?. My point remains they would be nowhere as highly rated as they currently are if they had remained at their former clubs.

He is not a poor Player. He is simply playing under a Terrible system whilst being coached by a wasteman. Which Terry? The same Terry that went to the Worldcup in 06 and played very well?.

Lastly we can't deny Leo was one of the Top 5 Central Defenders at some point in time. Arguing against that is simply lying to yourself. As for the quote itself, you'll have to take issue with the Guy that wrote that as you know my Position on Boateng.
Buffon became number 1 ahead of Toldo, Perruzi who are very good keepers in their own right, Neuer became number 1 ahead of Adler who was also a good keeper. So becoming the number 1 keeper is a big deal.

Before they joined big clubs they have been greats.

Bonnuci is not a top defender, Chiellini is the main guy in that Juve setup, Bonnuci does didly squat thats why Milan fans are targetting him they bought into his hye and are now disappointed,
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by chic2pimp(m): 2:23pm On Dec 20, 2017
raumdeuter:
And 10,000 Milan fans signed up to attend the mockery of Bonnuci with a few hours
How do you know that they are all Milan Fans?... If I start a campaign against Boateng, I'd get 10 signatures on this Chelsea Thread alone. That's before I had even ventured outside. May be I'd call them Bayern Munich Fans too right?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 2:23pm On Dec 20, 2017
raumdeuter:
This is what AC Milan fans and Italian analysts are saying about Bonnuci

Bergomi on Bonnuci - “When he was at Juventus he had some strong teammates playing close to him, he still doesn’t have the same personality of Barzagli and Chiellini

Sabattini - “Bonucci will weaken both Juventus and AC Milan. This transfer will affect both clubs included in the deal”,

AC Milan Fans Create Hilarious Facebook Event to Rinse Flop Signing Leonardo Bonucci

I cannt post the links because spambot will ban me

Just google Bonnuci flop and see the hilarious things on the internet

Thats why I dey always tell diggz say what some of us see today na 2yrs tme before many people see it
Anyone.....who can choose both sides of the divide, and defend each like their life depends on it....can actually be said to be YOU sir! so..... forget all this ur 2years talk.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:25pm On Dec 20, 2017
chic2pimp:
How do you know that they are all Milan Fans?... If I start a campaign against Boateng, I'd get 10 signatures on this Chelsea Thread alone. That's before I had even ventured outside. May be I'd call them Bayern Munich Fans too right?
So you are telling us the people who are making the posts are not Milan fans

Even Bonnuci has said it that he has been a disappointment, Maybe we can say it was Bonnucis brother who said it on his behalf too
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Eruditor: 2:26pm On Dec 20, 2017
Ibime:
So because Rijkaard mismanaged those players from 2006 to 2008, they were no longer the World Class players that they were in 2004-2006 and were on decline?

You compare this group of World beaters to the bunch of crap at Real that used to get knocked out of UCL every 2nd round by Lyon?

While Rijkaard was mismanaging this bunch, Aragones was using them as the central core of his Euro 2008 winning team.

Let's cut the crap, because I don't have time to go back and forth with a talkative nigga. Even your moniker lets me know you are a diarrhea- mouth nigga who likes the sound of his own voice.

Name your Barca 11 and Madrid 11 as at 2008, lets compare player for player and cut through your erudite nonsense.
By your argument, Schuster was also mismanaging RM seeing that he was getting dumped by Lyon. Ironically, same Schuster was doing better than proven Barca - beating them 4-1 and 18 points ahead.

When other managers replaced Schuster why did they not win sextuples?

Pep sold Etoo, Dinho, Henry, Toure and still won 5 trophies with that team. What other errant nonsensical questions will I answer?

Luis Aragones, played Xavi in CM true, but Ini was played on the right side of midfield. Luis played a 4-4-2 or 4-1-3-2. Compared to what Pep played and where he played Ini and Xavi.

Funny enough, in 2010, Del Bosque deployed Ini in the exact way Pep used him from 2008-to that world cup and we saw how Ini played.

I'm not Aaliyah & RKelly so I am done going back and forth with you. If you truly wanted to cut the crap, you would stop posting about Pep or his teams as virtually every thing you have posted has been...crap.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:26pm On Dec 20, 2017
diggz:
Anyone.....who can choose both sides of the divide, and defend each like their life depends on it....can actually be said to be YOU sir! so..... forget all this ur 2years talk.
Even when you see my quotes telling you Bonnuci is mediocre and now many Milan fans, former Italian players and even Bonnuci himself admitting that he is poor
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:27pm On Dec 20, 2017
Eruditor keep doing the Lord's work
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 2:34pm On Dec 20, 2017
raumdeuter:
Even when you see my quotes telling you Bonnuci is mediocre and now many Milan fans, former Italian players and even Bonnuci himself admitting that he is poor
I am sure if you choose to call bonucci the best defender in the world you can defend it also....afterall this is you describing same mangala you have always called useless player....as a proper defender below.....

raumdeuter:
Mangala is a proper defender a central defender by trade
And by the way....what do you have to say about mangalas performances and Pep using him in most matches these days?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:36pm On Dec 20, 2017
diggz:
I am sure if you choose to call bonucci the best defender in the world you can defend it also....afterall this is you describing same mangala you have always called useless as a proper defender below.....
And by the way....what do you have to say about mangalas performances and Pep using him in most matches these days?
Its amazing that you are still confused by this simple post

Is Magala a proper defender? Is he a defender by trade Yes, He is a useless defender absolutely

Is Terry a proper defender Yes Is he a useless defender? ABSOLUTELY

For Pep to get anything out a useless Magala is a miracle, Now I believe Pep will look for a better defender and get rid of the useless 4 corner head Kompany and Mangala
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 2:42pm On Dec 20, 2017
raumdeuter:
You are the morron of the thread which is why almost every opinion of yours is retardded
cheesy

I expected you to deny the fact that you posted here that pep was in epl to maga man city and dump them like other coaches.

What about sterling that you called a donkey, beyond repair?

Since you are always right. Those claiming that sturidge's resurgence, is due to pep's efforts, are retards, right? cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 2:49pm On Dec 20, 2017
airmark:
I expected you to deny the fact that you posted here that pep was in epl to maga man city and dump them like other coaches.

What about sterling that you called a donkey, beyond repair?

Since you are always right. Those claiming that sturidge's resurgence, is due to pep's efforts, are retards, right? cheesy
Yes Pep is here to collect Man City money Only a morron like you will believe that Pep will stay for 10, 20yrs at City, Dominate the league, set records, and you will see him zoom off back to Barcelona

I know you are a morron, I said will Pep turn Sterling to Muller? Despite Sterlings improvement, has he scored 32 goals a season like Muller

Evidence that you are the retardd, what has Sturridge got to do with Pep's effort? You need blood tonic, go buy Chemiron or Orheptal, agbo jedi is no substitute for blood tonic
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by airmark(m): 2:55pm On Dec 20, 2017
raumdeuter:
Yes Pep is here to collect Man City money Only a morron like you will believe that Pep will stay for 10, 20yrs at City, Dominate the league, set records, and you will see him zoom off back to Barcelona

I know you are a morron, I said will Pep turn Sterling to Muller? Despite Sterlings improvement, has he scored 32 goals a season like Muller

Evidence that you are the retardd, what has Sturridge got to do with Pep's effort? You need blood tonic, go buy Chemiron or Orheptal, agbo jedi is no substitute for blood tonic
Foolish man, did Muller score 32 goals before December of any season? Did Muller score 32 goals every season?

How many goals did sterling score by this time last year? His improvement is due to what? You called him a donkey, is he still a donkey?

You are the donkey here, bald one. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Greatihex(m): 2:56pm On Dec 20, 2017
"What does dominant mean? In Paris we lost 3-0 and it was blown up into a major issue. Then we won 3-1 and it was blown up into a major issue again," he fired.
"It's a pity football is only about the result and the coverage became extreme in both directions. I can tell you a story about this. In one case two articles were put online by mistake after the Under-21 final we won: one completely a farewell to the German youth and one gushing praise!
"That's a joke. So, you see that the content which is presented to the fan is often far away from the football reality. For sure, we know the result is what counts in the end. But I cannot understand why the details of the game are often completely ignored.“


http://www.goal.com/en/news/muller-praises-heynckes-for-uniting-bayern-muller-praises/zq2ostl3sb4k19ij0xsp4a951
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 2:58pm On Dec 20, 2017
raumdeuter:
Its amazing that you are still confused by this simple post

Is Magala a proper defender? Is he a defender by trade Yes, He is a useless defender absolutely

Is Terry a proper defender Yes Is he a useless defender? ABSOLUTELY

For Pep to get anything out a useless Magala is a miracle, Now I believe Pep will look for a better defender and get rid of the useless 4 corner head Kompany and Mangala
Dayo my very good friend.....I am not confused by that post....I only understand you too well sir.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:01pm On Dec 20, 2017
Eruditor:
I'm not Aaliyah & RKelly so I am done going back and forth with you. If you truly wanted to cut the crap, you would stop posting about Pep or his teams as virtually every thing you have posted has been...crap.
STFU nigga


Eruditor:
I already accepted that Pep is a fraud who messed things up in Bayern.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by elrony(m): 3:05pm On Dec 20, 2017
raumdeuter:
DId he not inherit them? Were they not players of City when Pep joined? That he chose not to use them did not mean he didnt inherit them

So if you inherit rotary telephone from your grandfather, and you dont use it does it take away the fact that you inheroted it
Good thing you admitted he inherited a squad of Champions league semi finalists and crashed them outta second round.

As it stands pep is a failure at City compared to his predecessor.

Facts don't lie!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by elrony(m): 3:07pm On Dec 20, 2017
diggz:
Dayo my very good friend.....I am not confused by that post....I only understand you too well sir.
How can one be "Proper" and "useless" at the same time? huh
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 3:15pm On Dec 20, 2017
airmark:
Foolish man, did Muller score 32 goals before December of any season? Did Muller score 32 goals every season?

How many goals did sterling score by this time last year? His improvement is due to what? You called him a donkey, is he still a donkey?

You are the donkey here, bald one. cheesy
Muller under Guardiola scored 32 a season has 12 assists. Sterling has improved greatly under uardiola but he is still far from Muller

Ikputu onu hide your face
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 3:15pm On Dec 20, 2017
elrony:
How can one be "Proper" and "useless" at the same time? huh
Please ask my Oga Raumdeuter.....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 3:16pm On Dec 20, 2017
diggz:
Dayo my very good friend.....I am not confused by that post....I only understand you too well sir.
Hope you are writing it down so you can read it later, Maybe I should start giving you homework
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 3:17pm On Dec 20, 2017
raumdeuter:
Hope you are writing it down so you can read it later, Maybe I should start giving you homework
Bwuahahahaha.....except money go join inside the homework oga...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 3:18pm On Dec 20, 2017
elrony:
How can one be "Proper" and "useless" at the same time? huh
A proper means by definition. Terry is a proper central defender but useless at the job

You can be a proper and legit student of UNILAG but still be useless at your studies

You can be a properly married wife, legit wife and be useless at wifely duties
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by raumdeuter: 3:18pm On Dec 20, 2017
diggz:
Bwuahahahaha.....except money go join inside the homework oga...
Na to complete your education so you can brag to dunces like airmark that you graduated from my school with cert to show
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by lordfalcao(m): 3:20pm On Dec 20, 2017
raumdeuter:
This is a troll by Milan fans who are thoroughly dissapointed in Bonnuci that they organized a facebook event to celebrate the masterclass

mockery. In fact, shortly after the end of Milan's 0-0 draw with AEK, a new Facebook event invited thousands of users to attend "Bonucci's masterclass

And 10,000 Milan fans signed up to attend the mockery of Bonnuci with a few hours

Anyoen can google this "AC Milan Fans Create Hilarious Facebook Event to Rinse Flop Signing Leonardo Bonucci After AEK Draw"

I dont want to post the link because of spambot. If Milan fans are singling out Bonnuci for being a flop
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by chic2pimp(m): 3:20pm On Dec 20, 2017
diggz:
Anyone.....who can choose both sides of the divide, and defend each like their life depends on it....can actually be said to be YOU sir! so..... forget all this ur 2years talk.
You sef see am. Hin talk say Leo was surrounded by other great players yet Dayo expects Him to perform as per usual in the midst of Mediocres(players and most importantly Coaching staff). Even Messi and Ronaldo don't have that much burden placed on them.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by diggz: 3:20pm On Dec 20, 2017
raumdeuter:
Na to complete your education so you can brag to dunces like airmark that you graduated from my school with cert to show
Bwuahahahaha.....you mean complete my education in the school of turning amala cheesy cheesy Oga...thank you sir....not interested cheesy
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