I think Nigeria will only prosper when we believe only in God and not Fantasy
For me venturing into Christianity is just a scam.... besides, when you are an African....
For some Christianity is just a fecthing business...

Kenneth Copeland, Joel Osteen, Bill Winston, etc preaches tithing and own Private Jets. You guys should stop making it a Nigeria thing

SO BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE PREACHES TITHING AND RIDES PRIVATE JETS MAKE IT OKAY? ARE YOU FOR REAL?

Let us settle this issue of tithe once and for all.

Those who preach and promote tithe succeeded to a large extent by instilling fears into the people so they won't question the rationale behind tithe and tithing.

As I have said earlier, because Jesus was not from the tribe of Levi, he did not demand a tithe. His descent from the tribe of Judah makes him ineligible to receive tithe, so why do we Christians (Christ-like) receive tithes.

The focal point of the tithe is that IT IS ONLY MEMBERS OF THE TRIBE OF LEVI who were ordained to receive tithe. The Levites in return as demanded by God were to give a tenth of that tithe to the priest (Read Numbers 18:25-28).

Modern-day pastors represent the priest in the old testament. In Number 18:1-21, God commanded the priests to take their brethren, the Levites to come and assist them in the temple with certain restrictions and he gave the priest their own inheritance of the offerings brought into the temple, of all first offspring of both animals and humans. To this end, any Pastor collecting tithe is only usurping the inheritance of the Levites because God did not authorize the priest to receive tithe. Going further, if modern day pastors receive tithes as they are now claiming ownership of tithes, then to whom did they give the 10 percent God commanded the Levites to give to the Priest.
If the act of offering animal sacrifices as commanded by God, is no longer valid today, then why is TITHE

Payment of tithe as ordained by God is to only a group of people, and only one group... The LEVITES. It is categorically stated that the tribe of Levi, one of the twelve ancient tribes in Israel, and no one else, had the authority to receive tithe. (Numbers 3:1-10,24, Number 4)

People are quick to refer to Genesis 14:20 and Genesis 28:22 when Abraham and Jacob practiced tithing. However, we should understand clearly that Abraham practiced practices tithing willingly and voluntarily devoid of any divine injunction. He also gave a tithe from the spoils of war and not from his produce. Jacob's tithing, on the other hand, was a promised he made to God if God will bless him.

Modern-day Pastors are totally disqualified from receiving tithe because there is no OFFICIAL body of men functioning as the Levites.

No one has the right to choose to whom they pay the tithe that God has ordained to be paid to the Levites. So it is not only the receiver of tithe that disobeys God, but also the payers.(Numbers 16:47-54, Deuteronomy 10:1-9) You cannot do that which God has not appointed you to do, those who tried it are severely punished, some with death. 2 Samuel 6:1-8, 1 Chronicles 13: 9-12.

Preachers, Prophets, Pastors, G.O's should heed the teaching of God and refrain from taking what does not belong to them.

lonelydora:
And again i say....


Whoever has money should spend it however he likes. You don't want to tithe, no problem...but don't try to discourage others who believe in the principles of tithing.

Most people kicking against tithing don't even tithe.

Kenneth Copeland, Joel Osteen, Bill Winston, etc preaches tithing and own Private Jets. You guys should stop making it a Nigeria thing.


For me i will tithe till eternity....let my pastor use it however he likes, it's not Freeze business.

For those about to quote me... i challenge anyone who claims to pay tithe and is against tithing to post his tithe records either by Bank SOA or tithe card (for churches who use it)

Jesus preached about being a boastful Christian...... ohhhh he called people like that ermmmmmmm........."Hypocrites"

FastestTech:


Here is the video:

https://www.brainnewsradio.com/my-views-on-those-who-condemn-tithing-and-pastors-zack-orji/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAgSCkXH69c

Oga commot for road make people pass. It's very idiotic to mislead the public and secondly Counter the anti tithe messages with Bible quotes and not with very cheap scare tactics.

narutop:
Zack Orji a Pastor?? Hmm.

If this is all he has to say then he hasn't said anything at all about tithing.

Pastors just admit, Freeze won this battle, but not the war.

The war is a long term ish.

It took centuries for the white men to brainwash our ancestors, It will take time, And we will get there.

Zack orji should have examined the Scriptures very well before coming out to say this. I fear how many must have been deluded by your false preaching

Pastor Keneth okonkwo , Pastor Eucharia Onunobi, Pastor Patience ozokwo, Pastor Zack orji, Pastor Liz Benson hmmmm the list goes on and on all because una wan collect tithes.
I am waiting for the day I will hear,
Pastor Samuel L Jackson, Pastor Denzel Washington, Pastor Keenu Reeves, Pastor Angelina Jolie

Benz4pimp:
Is this the new retirement plan for Nigerians?once you are 50, turn to a Pastor and continue earning pension from gullible Nigerians

Yes ooo, Tithe is the surest pension.

OBAGADAFFI:


Didnt you typed this below.

And as far as the bible is concerned tithing and how to , whom to and when to tithe with is clear in the bible

Deutronomy 14:22-29

If you are not tithing according to this your are not a Christian

You can quote this verse to suit your narrative but when nasty verses are quoted in the same Deutonomy let alone the Bible, you scream it's OT. Bravo!!

Rexgodwin:
Zak Orji should be ordained 50 years or or more ago as a pastor, who cares? As far as tithes and tithing are concerned, it remained an old testament tradition which the new generation pastors erroneously use to deceive the people. Its very sad that those who are educated like Zak should also fall easily to their antics.

Why won't he blabber mouth when he also look to collect and benefit from unholy tithes

Tithing is a false doctrine born out of greed. QED

DrinkLimca:
Everybody now claims to be a pastor ..
This talentless and overrated and failed actor turned fake man of God should stop seeking for attention..

Highly overrated my brother

Though am a fan of Zack Orji, but I think he his not getting it. The issue of tithing is not about the condemnation of men of God, its about enlightenment to Christian who are being manipulated by certain individuals to enrich themselves all to the detriment of their followers. Zack Orji should be mindful that not all Pastors are call by God, most are call by them self. We should be careful who we follow and call our spiritual leader. May God continue to bless his people .

FastestTech:


Here is the video:

https://www.brainnewsradio.com/my-views-on-those-who-condemn-tithing-and-pastors-zack-orji/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAgSCkXH69c

He can't even quote the Bible correctly. In the Bible, the book of Ecclesiastics..... Chapter what, verse what?

See the format. When Nollywood is no longer paying.... They will rush to the next big business..... Pastor. Who ordained you? Rubbish!

DrinkLimca:
Everybody now claims to be a pastor ..
This talentless and overrated and failed actor turned fake man of God should stop seeking for attention..

This man is a lecturer by profession.He is not a failed actor but one of the best in Nollywood. Therefore say what you know.

DrinkLimca:
Everybody now claims to be a pastor ..
This talentless and overrated and failed actor turned fake man of God should stop seeking for attention..

You are obviously not sain, how can you refer to zack orji as talent-less and overrated! you are just blinded by your biased view

simplemach:
Tithe this, tithe that... everybody just use your money to help the poor simple.
Forget all those gold digging private jet owners

In what way has pastors prevented Nigeria from owning an Airline

In what way do pastors prevent Nigeria from having industries

Less than 0.0001% of pastors own Jets in Nigeria. But no let us forget the over 70% that earn less than 50k/month and focus on the 0.0001% than own jets.

If you ran your governments the way church leaders are running churches. Nigeria might be a Qatar right now. In all these argument Canaanland has had stable electricity and water supply for its over 15,000 residents since 1999 and is already on the verge of converting waste to electricity. RCCG is producing 25MW of electricity. Yet your useless govt you pay compulsory tax, vat, CIT, Pet Tax has not been able to give you light decades after independence.

Living Faith has more than 16,000 Staff and has never owed any of them salary! Yet your state govt that collects Allocation plus Tax cannot pay full salary.

Living Faith a single Church is schooling 16 thousand of your Citizens in Higher institutions and many more at primary and Secondary levels yet you think you have the capacity to waggle your tongue

I went for Shiloh all through and stayed in the staff quarters yet it was electricity all through, for one second water did not go off inspite of thousands that were present. On a normal day you won't walk 20 meters before you find a segregated bin to dispose your waste.

The entire area was fully covered by different layers of Security with multiple CCTV and IoT enabled barrier gates. And yet your Abuja, capital of the Nation does not have CCTV yet you open your foul mouth to talk down on pastors! Ode

Between the guy that calls himself Area father and Oyedepo who resigned a federal job and started a Church of 3 people and has widened it to over 6,000 churches globally, over 100 schools, 2 hospitals, Over 1000hectares farm for livestock and crop, Another farm in Igbesa and CU. With 15,000 housing Estate, Water factories, Zeolite factory, One Research center, a scholarship fund, Beverage factories, 10 million books, Publishing house, Radio Station etc who has had more impact or who will have better capacity to govern the nation. Mumu

Canaanland host hundreds of thousands of people every week yet no stampede ever. Your govt gathered ppl at stadium for recruitment excersise and before it even began many were dead!

Living Faith already has a master plan till 2032 yet your govt does not have a plan for 2020!

You know Illogicality is the trademark of most Africans. They fail to think beyond their prejudices and sentiments hence Africa has remained on the ground.

Shally2:
Tithing is a false doctrine born out of greed. QED

In what way has pastors prevented Nigeria from owning an Airline

In what way do pastors prevent Nigeria from having industries

Less than 0.0001% of pastors own Jets in Nigeria. But no let us forget the over 70% that earn less than 50k/month and focus on the 0.0001% than own jets.

If you ran your governments the way church leaders are running churches. Nigeria might be a Qatar right now. In all these argument Canaanland has had stable electricity and water supply for its over 15,000 residents since 1999 and is already on the verge of converting waste to electricity. RCCG is producing 25MW of electricity. Yet your useless govt you pay compulsory tax, vat, CIT, Pet Tax has not been able to give you light decades after independence.

Living Faith has more than 16,000 Staff and has never owed any of them salary! Yet your state govt that collects Allocation plus Tax cannot pay full salary.

Living Faith a single Church is schooling 16 thousand of your Citizens in Higher institutions and many more at primary and Secondary levels yet you think you have the capacity to waggle your tongue

I went for Shiloh all through and stayed in the staff quarters yet it was electricity all through, for one second water did not go off inspite of thousands that were present. On a normal day you won't walk 20 meters before you find a segregated bin to dispose your waste.

The entire area was fully covered by different layers of Security with multiple CCTV and IoT enabled barrier gates. And yet your Abuja, capital of the Nation does not have CCTV yet you open your foul mouth to talk down on pastors! Ode

Between the guy that calls himself Area father and Oyedepo who resigned a federal job and started a Church of 3 people and has widened it to over 6,000 churches globally, over 100 schools, 2 hospitals, Over 1000hectares farm for livestock and crop, Another farm in Igbesa and CU. With 15,000 housing Estate, Water factories, Zeolite factory, One Research center, a scholarship fund, Beverage factories, 10 million books, Publishing house, Radio Station etc who has had more impact or who will have better capacity to govern the nation. Mumu

Canaanland host hundreds of thousands of people every week yet no stampede ever. Your govt gathered ppl at stadium for recruitment excersise and before it even began many were dead!

Living Faith already has a master plan till 2032 yet your govt does not have a plan for 2020!

You know Illogicality is the trademark of most Africans. They fail to think beyond their prejudices and sentiments hence Africa has remained on the ground.

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In the bible, God instructed the Israelites to eat their tithes and while at it, should remember the widow,the fatherless and the levities because they don't have any inheritance - deut. 14 :22-28 ... which nigerian pastor is an Israeli, let alone from the tribe of levities, which nigeria pastor doesn’t have inheritance ?

u just said its in the bible.can you quote it to save us the stress?

lonelydora:


Who says it's my pastor that tells me how to pay tithe? See, many orthodox church members are the one supporting Freeze because they are not as faithful as Pentecostal members when paying their tithes.

Pentecostal churches are scammers
.

passyhansome:
I am not here to argue, or engage in a belligerent confrontation, The Book of John 21:25 :Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.
You can't know all about God or the Kingdom by Logos( General Knowledge that is the BIBLE). FREEZE is still a Babe in Christ. We have three Knowledge of God. 1.Generial Knowledge, 2.Experential Knowledge 3.Revalational Knowledge they are all dimension, which can only be experienced by an HOLY GHOST filled MAN. not by reading the letters or Bible. FREEZE should be careful cos the end won't be nice, if you are not gathering you are scattering the consequences are grave. WHO GAVE FREEZE THE MANDATE? GOD WILL ASK HIM THIS?. CARNAL MAN FROMING SPIRITUAL THAT'S DEATH

You have nothing to offer. Take your threats, your canal knowledge of tithe principles and gerarofia. Nonsense!!

Everything we need is in the new testament. Learn from this.

Galatians 1:8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse!

Part of the good news is give to freely without compulsion, threat and fear of curses from pastor. This is the mandate from God. Flee with your canal knowledge.

.

BumbleDevil:
Let us settle this issue of tithe once and for all.

Those who preach and promote tithe succeeded to a large extent by instilling fears into the people so they won't question the rationale behind tithe and tithing.

As I have said earlier, because Jesus was not from the tribe of Levi, he did not demand a tithe. His descent from the tribe of Judah makes him ineligible to receive tithe, so why do we Christians (Christ-like) receive tithes.

The focal point of the tithe is that IT IS ONLY MEMBERS OF THE TRIBE OF LEVI who were ordained to receive tithe. The Levites in return as demanded by God were to give a tenth of that tithe to the priest (Read Numbers 18:25-28).

Modern-day pastors represent the priest in the old testament. In Number 18:1-21, God commanded the priests to take their brethren, the Levites to come and assist them in the temple with certain restrictions and he gave the priest their own inheritance of the offerings brought into the temple, of all first offspring of both animals and humans. To this end, any Pastor collecting tithe is only usurping the inheritance of the Levites because God did not authorize the priest to receive tithe. Going further, if modern day pastors receive tithes as they are now claiming ownership of tithes, then to whom did they give the 10 percent God commanded the Levites to give to the Priest.
If the act of offering animal sacrifices as commanded by God, is no longer valid today, then why is TITHE

Payment of tithe as ordained by God is to only a group of people, and only one group... The LEVITES. It is categorically stated that the tribe of Levi, one of the twelve ancient tribes in Israel, and no one else, had the authority to receive tithe. (Numbers 3:1-10,24, Number 4)

People are quick to refer to Genesis 14:20 and Genesis 28:22 when Abraham and Jacob practiced tithing. However, we should understand clearly that Abraham practiced practices tithing willingly and voluntarily devoid of any divine injunction. He also gave a tithe from the spoils of war and not from his produce. Jacob's tithing, on the other hand, was a promised he made to God if God will bless him.

Modern-day Pastors are totally disqualified from receiving tithe because there is no OFFICIAL body of men functioning as the Levites.

No one has the right to choose to whom they pay the tithe that God has ordained to be paid to the Levites. So it is not only the receiver of tithe that disobeys God, but also the payers.(Numbers 16:47-54, Deuteronomy 10:1-9) You cannot do that which God has not appointed you to do, those who tried it are severely punished, some with death. 2 Samuel 6:1-8, 1 Chronicles 13: 9-12.

Preachers, Prophets, Pastors, G.O's should heed the teaching of God and refrain from taking what does not belong to them.

In addition to this, the Jews of today don't tithe because after the fall of Jerusalem in AD 70, the Jews left for other lands and nobody can say who was a levite or not and that part of the Jewish worship was stopped till date.
I'm always fascinated when Christians of today who are not Jews, don't know any levite still tithe to a non Jew how much more a non levite

http://www.askelm.com/tithing/thi003.htm


http://www.tentmaker.org/books/TheTitheisIllegal.html

Daddy freeze is not asking for much, he is only asking for biblical citations from the new testament.Tithing is on the old testament, if you must obey tithing then you must obey other Jewish principles. You can't obey one principle and negate the others. Bible is the standard,reacting emotionally is not the way out but citing a part of the bible where Jesus or the Apostlesame paid tithe.Most pastors are begging the questions (petito principi).

passyhansome:
I am not here to argue, or engage in a belligerent confrontation, The Book of John 21:25 :Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.
You can't know all about God or the Kingdom by Logos( General Knowledge that is the BIBLE). FREEZE is still a Babe in Christ. We have three Knowledge of God. 1.Generial Knowledge, 2.Experential Knowledge 3.Revalational Knowledge they are all dimension, which can only be experienced by an HOLY GHOST filled MAN. not by reading the letters or Bible. FREEZE should be careful cos the end won't be nice, if you are not gathering you are scattering the consequences are grave. WHO GAVE FREEZE THE MANDATE? GOD WILL ASK HIM THIS?. CARNAL MAN FROMING SPIRITUAL THAT'S DEATH

Heb 1:1 ...... says am an ordained man of God..... nt jst pastors.... all has been called by God..... Revelational knowledge kọ pastorial knp2ledge ni....? abeg get an accurate knowlege of the sciptures an stop all this GOD TOLD ME of a thing.

Benz4pimp:
Is this the new retirement plan for Nigerians?once you are 50, turn to a Pastor and continue earning pension from gullible Nigerians

abi o

passyhansome:
I am not here to argue, or engage in a belligerent confrontation, The Book of John 21:25 :Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.
You can't know all about God or the Kingdom by Logos( General Knowledge that is the BIBLE). FREEZE is still a Babe in Christ. We have three Knowledge of God. 1.Generial Knowledge, 2.Experential Knowledge 3.Revalational Knowledge they are all dimension, which can only be experienced by an HOLY GHOST filled MAN. not by reading the letters or Bible. FREEZE should be careful cos the end won't be nice, if you are not gathering you are scattering the consequences are grave. WHO GAVE FREEZE THE MANDATE? GOD WILL ASK HIM THIS?. CARNAL MAN FROMING SPIRITUAL THAT'S DEATH

True Jesus did many other things that are not written but his aim of coming would have been defeated if the few that is written does not include his basic teachings on salvation and it's requirements.

Read trough the four gospels. They all emphasized his prophesied birth, miraculous conception, birth, ministry, important messages of salvation and righteousness, his miracles, healing, compassion, mercy, justice, his death, resurrection, ascension and his promise to return and above all the great commission.

It would be so surprising that a supposed cornerstone of messages of tithing in churches of today was relegated to number three behind mercy and justice.

If truly you must tithe to make heaven, then I put it to you that you are simply telling us that the twelve apostles, the early church and all after them down to the 18th century are robbers, cursed and did not make heaven.

Enough said.

bulalakoboko:
Daddy freeze is not asking for much, he is only asking for biblical citations from the new testament.Tithing is on the old testament, if you must obey tithing then you must obey other Jewish principles. You can't obey one principle and negate the others. Bible is the standard,reacting emotionally is not the way out but citing a part of the bible where Jesus or the Apostlesame paid tithe.Most pastors are begging the questions (petito principi).

They would rather threaten you with eternal damnation, financial stagnation and all other forms of threats. They are always quick to refer to Malachi but failed to realize that Malachi addressed the JEWS who refused to pay tithes as ordained by God in the old testament

Yyeske:
In addition to this, the Jews of today don't tithe because after the fall of Jerusalem in AD 70, the Jews left for other lands and nobody can say who was a levite or not and that part of the Jewish worship was stopped till date.
I'm always fascinated when Christians of today who are not Jews, don't know any levite still tithe to a non Jew how much more a non levite

http://www.askelm.com/tithing/thi003.htm


http://www.tentmaker.org/books/TheTitheisIllegal.html

This also beats my imagination. Supposed learned people reasoning like numb skulls. Religion is a veritable tool to control the mind of men and they have not queried why Pastors are teaching psychology and philosophy instead of salvation as preached by our Lord Jesus Christ.

Imagine a Sunday sermon bothering on financial freedom. That was why the likes of Friedreich Nietzche postulated about the childhood neurosis of man affecting his religious inclination.

Let me stop here before I start to thread the line of Atheism which is not the focal point of discussion.