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Paul Lambert is the new Stoke coach.....I see Stoke dealing with the scummies today

diggz:
Paul Lambert is the new Stoke coach.....I see Stoke dealing with the scummies today

I hope not for FPL reasons, I carry two Manyoo defence.

a 0-0 draw go suit me wella.

Just park a beautiful bus for 90 minutes against the scummy bus drivers.

I think Zouma is back. He knows what he has to do.

Nihilist:
I'm not being facetious here, even though I do tend to take the mick from time to time. I'm only trying to point out how yours is an argument of convenience. One good performance and suddenly much disparaged liverpool players are instant upgrades on the midfielders you once lauded this season. This is not to say you don't have a point, but I suspect that your point is more derived from a desire to 'protect' Morate from perceived scapegoating, rather than a genuine intent to make a factual submission about the current Chelsea team's capabilities.

I'm just trying to debunk your claims in the only style I ever use - through humour and a dose of post digging.

Your digging is great work and funny many times. But it needs to be kept in context of the prevailing debate and must consider everything in between. There is no plane of existience where people are not allowed to change their minds. There is a massive dfference between flip flopping and admitting wrong or seeing a different point of view. As long as it can be explained, then it's game. What matters is consistency in philosophy.

You should go find the views of people on here when Salah was at Chelsea. Mine inclusive. You will be shocked. Now people are cursing JM for selling him off. I am not a big fan of JM (sure everyone knows this) but to be fair to him, Salah was not very good while he was here. That's just the truth and he had many chances to prove it. Now going back to dig people's comments on Salah will just be a futile exercise without considering everyting in between. It's just for humour.

On Morata: You have missed a post (after the Arsenal game) where I did openly admit that Morata could have done well with the chances he got. I stated categorically that the narrative must be put on hold. So I am confused why you think I am protecting Morata. I am not. I am only elucidating the point the likes of LordFalcao are making - why can't others score ?

On the post on Drinkwater and Yoko: Not checked but I think I do remember this post was right after the Aletico game. It looked good and everyone admitted it did. Even the much now scolded Hazard was unbelievable. Hence my assertion, "we COULD be goood this year. This is not to say I wasn't dissapointed in the summer and this is not to say that after the Atletico game, it's not all gone to pieces and we all have not seen where the issues are. We all registered our displeasure at the sigings, so I am not sure what this is about.


On this:

We've faced City 3 times in the league in the last two years. On two of those occasions, we managed to put at least 2 goals past them - Eden Hazard and Willian scored against City last year. They are still at the club today.

But why can't I expect Morata to score 2 of the 4 goals against City sef? Firmino and Salah could have easil had a brace or even hattrick yesterday. Do they have two heads?

The idea is to do so without the inclusionof Morata. What will be our options, since you feel that Morata is the problem. And we are not talking about the City over the last two years, we are talking about City of yesterday and Chelsea of two days ago. Who are the Chelsea players on current form that will score 4 goals if Morata did not feature at all?

This is not an argument of convenience, this is the problem.

This Andy Carroll's news is not going anywhere soon...even skysports don join dey shout am

Nihilist:
I hope not for FPL reasons, I carry two Manyoo defence.

a 0-0 draw go suit me wella.

Just park a beautiful bus for 90 minutes against the scummy bus drivers.

I think Zouma is back. He knows what he has to do.

Lol

Nihilist:
I hope not for FPL reasons, I carry two Manyoo defence.

a 0-0 draw go suit me wella.

Just park a beautiful bus for 90 minutes against the scummy bus drivers.

I think Zouma is back. He knows what he has to do.

chupo moting to score hattrrick

diggz:
This Andy Carroll's news is not going anywhere soon...even skysports don join dey shout am

una wan buy morata senior brother abi
i pity una, gathering head masters

sod09:
una wan buy morata senior brother abi
i pity una, gathering head masters

Omo...Na serious cross and nod fc we wan turn mehn

diggz:
This Andy Carroll's news is not going anywhere soon...even skysports don join dey shout am

Is chelsea no more interested in that porto striker again? Tim Carroll?

airmark:
I remember when i was telling nateevs here, last august, that morata's misses would be unpalatable for chelsea, he said hating had consumed me. He kept on defending him, in the face of many gifs exposing why zidane preferred benzema to him.

Blast from the past.
Now who will rescue chelsea upfront converting most of the chances? Nobody yet.

Well at least your post passively implies that even if we had bought Bellotti, we still will be battling this same problem at this moment in time.

airmark:
Is chelsea no more interested in that porto striker again? Tim Carroll?

Except the guys name is Andy Carroll ..... cuz that is the only name flying around right now

nateevs:
Well at least your post passively implies that even if we had bought Bellotti, we still will be battling this same problem at this moment in time.

My post has more to do with my earlier views on batshuayi and morata, being our two strikers for title defence.

diggz:
Except the guys name is Andy Carroll ..... cuz that is the only name flying around right now

Andy marega or something. I hope chelsea won't turn arsenal soon.

Let someone tell me how this is not a major problem for chelsea?

''After six goals in Morata’s first seven Chelsea games, it is now five in his last 22''.


Conte needs to change that formation or get another striker to share the burden. Going down further, will be terrible.

I guess this is from the polling boot

Branzy:
I guess this is from the polling boot

nice joke.

Branzy:
I guess this is from the polling boot

How many wins and draws?

Don't just pick what favours your narrative

MoR2:
alonso na offensive left back and left midfielder. moses na right winger and right midfielder. cesar na convert him convert am, from fullback to centerback. them fit overlap join attack score goals like conte talk

the players sef are frustrating conte. their form dey bad, na wetin we dey face for madrid now sef.

the 3 midfielders, way so purpose be one creative midfielder way go play pass like pirlo, fabregas and 2 runners abi, usually kante and bakayoko or drinks box to box, to recover the ball quickly, run with it, get into the box and score like vidal or pogba.

then hazard way so purpose better pass teves they misbehave this days.

make we talk true, 2015 title na fabregas and costa, 2017 na mainly kante, chelsea just need new blood atleast you na coach they cry for am and the club wan sign.

our own na till summer and till then na prayer we dey so.

But but na Hazard win polling booth award na

Giggs is the new Wales manager

Branzy:
I guess this is from the polling boot

25game unbeaten yet you finished 6th. What is Na the uselfullness of you being unbeaten

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diggz:
Paul Lambert is the new Stoke coach.....I see Stoke dealing with the scummies today

the dude isn't coaching today..... He starts tomorrow

Nihilist:
I hope not for FPL reasons, I carry two Manyoo defence.

a 0-0 draw go suit me wella.

Just park a beautiful bus for 90 minutes against the scummy bus drivers.

I think Zouma is back. He knows what he has to do.

What I need is for Jones and Rashford to score and perhaps that cleansheet Sha.Surely My God is in control

ovoP:
the dude isn't coaching today..... He starts tomorrow

All the players will want to impress him...so I am very sure united will have a difficult game

diggz:
Paul Lambert is the new Stoke coach.....I see Stoke dealing with the scummies today

Paul who?

diggz:
This Andy Carroll's news is not going anywhere soon...even skysports don join dey shout am

Finally a Daniel to rescue your season and guaranty you guys 4th position ahead of Tottenham

nateevs:
In summary, four different players from the same Liverpool team created chances for themselves and scored.
Who are the four different players in Chelsea capable of scoring against against City.

Morata doesn't score and the team whole goes to s.hit! THis is what you should be concerned about.
This effectively means that if Morata does not play, then we have less chances of scoring.

I understand you may not like Morata and even as a big fan of his, I can see why you may not. That's understandable.
Morata has not helped himself over some games. I get it. So banter must follow - from opposition fans and fans opposed to Morata. The posts must be funny, so everyone can cheer. Very understable.

This does not take away the fact that what you are doing is scape-goating. Because when all the cheering is said and done, the crucial question beckons. What happens when Morata cannot/does not play? This is the crucial question.

Can we beat City without Morata? Can we have four different players scoring? Can you confidently say that without Morata on the picth "falling like dice on ludo board", we can score 4 goals against City? I'd like any Chelsea fan to take me on on this, with sincereity.

Anyone of us who is prepared to put sentiment aside will quickly find out the answers to this question. We have a serious problem. I am a big Hazard fan but I say dude has to step up. Then we have the average players littered all over the place.

Sit Kante, Hazard and Morata away from the team and Mane, Firminio, Salah and the whole of Pool's midfield will walk into our team right now.

That's the problem.

I am very anti-Hazard so when I ask this same questions people think I am scapegoating him

This is mid January your main striker has 10 goals, the other attacker has 6 goals (2 from penalties). See those chances Liverpool scored, Morata would have fallen, Hazard that wont fall will be turning like a wall clock while the Pedro and Willian that can at least try are on the bench

Then what is the purpose of playing Bakayoko and Fabregas at the detriment of the attack

Bench Bakayoko and Hazard play Pedro and Willian

Conte is mad sha. Pedro should be playing instead of bakayoko who brings nothing to the team. Last season, Pedro scored a lot of important goals that helped us win the league..I wonder why bakayoko was bought and Pedro relegated tobthe bench. Since morata and hazard are on goal drought, Pedro might have been bailing us.

The former Chelsea boss has been irritatingly astute at taking the attention away from the fact that his team have failed to lay a glove on Manchester City and he is using Conte as the diversion. Every time Conte bites back it diminishes the former Itay international who, having played the game at the highest level, respects its customs and traditions. Mourinho on the other hand shows no respect to either of those conventions because he is a mere beneficiary of the game and gives nothing back in return.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42684400

Why do people like to hit on the point that Mourinho didn't play football at the highest level.

airmark:
May lukaku start falling like dice on a ludo board and miss big chances for the rest of the season, the way morata has done for chelsea. Ase edumare.

Airmark take it easy. You hate Morata too.

diggz:
Lol... leyqute was being sarcastic

I was being sarcastically serious.

Make una sha dey fight. If a striker doesn't score, shouldn't there be other players to score in the team?

How many players have contributed to City's 60+ goals? How many players have been scoring at Man Utd since Lukaku started his dry run?

NzugbaDRAW. Make una dey fight unasef.

One fool on twitter said Mane + Salah is the best Muslim attack since 9/11

My God

raumdeuter:
I am very anti-Hazard so when I ask this same questions people think I am scapegoating him

This is mid January your main striker has 10 goals, the other attacker has 6 goals (2 from penalties). See those chances Liverpool scored, Morata would have fallen, Hazard that wont fall will be turning like a wall clock while the Pedro and Willian that can at least try are on the bench

Then what is the purpose of playing Bakayoko and Fabregas at the detriment of the attack

Bench Bakayoko and Hazard play Pedro and Willian

Your last statement is the premise of this debate.

Conte plays Hazard because most Managers will do the same - hope that their star man can play themselves out of bad form. However, for Bakayoko, Conte intends this to shore up the midfield. To not do so is to expose our feeble midfield of Kante-Fabregas to the fire power of big teams. And we have seen repeadly that this is easily overrun.

Unfortunately, last season, Conte didn't have this problem because he had Matic. So it worked. This season, there is no single player who is a Matic - one that can sit and allow Kante surge forward and one that can join attack himself and retain possession effectively, thereby contributing to offensive play.

It was a no brainer. Fab had to be dropped. Even though this was at the expense of some creativity. This season, not one of Bakayoko, Drinkwater or Fab, as it seems can replace Matic and as such, an extra player is required, which means one forward player dropped.

I for one think Conte should try Hazard in a withdrawn position, at the top of the midfield in the 3-5-2, if he continues to be shy on goal and pair Batshuayi and Morata in a flat two at the top. I really believe this can work. But Conte doesn't fancy Batman, so here we are.