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Cromagnon:
who owns the resorts
no bahamians
working as hoteliers and cabana boys is not exactly tech advanced

Cromagnon:
who owns the resorts
no bahamians
working as hoteliers and cabana boys is not exactly tech advanced

momoyama:
Look up Baha Mar and Atlantis resorts and see how many of the jobs there are cabana boys. Lol. Average wages are $35,000 annually for both and the vast majority of jobs for locals are professional. All of the menial labour is performed my immigrants.

FYI hotel jobs in the USA are paid about half as much as in our country.

momoyama:
Who owns the resorts in New York? Locals?

Cromagnon:
AMERICANS DO
BUILT BY THEM
FINANCED BY THEM
NOW SELLING TO CHINESE AND MOVING THEIR TECH TO SOUTHEAST ASIA
WHAT ARE BAHAMANS DOING
STAGNANT COS THEY COMFORTABLE
JUST WAIT TILL AMERICANS CAN'T AFFORD TO TAKE VACATIONS THEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE JUST WON GEOGRAPHIC LOTTERY

momoyama:
You are lost. New York has a population of over 10 million. Yet your answer ignores my question (whether "locals", i.e. ppl from New York) own the hotels there and asserts (wrongly) that "Americans" (population 340 million) own and you are shifting the goalpost
we are talking about countries not cities
read the damn title
By comparison, there are 350,000 ppl in the Bahamas (less than the smallest borough of NYC) yet you expect them to own (in ABSOLUTE rather than proportional terms) as many hotels not only as New Yorkers but as 340 million Americans!!!!! also hotels are not technology
again read the damn thread title

For an intelligent debate, let's look at hotel ownership PER CAPITA among Bahamians and Americans. No contest there my friend. We win hands down.
since you are more interested in throwing insult
i will leave you to your folly
As for your comment about accidents[b] you either blind or can't read
thats what i just said [/b] of geography, it suggests to me you have no understanding of history, since the only differentiating factors between any peoples in terms of development have been historical accidents. How else do you explain the sudden rise of the denizens of the most peripheral parts of Europe (the US and Britain) just within a few centuries of their having colonised the Americas largely by historical accident and default on the part of more advanced Mediterranean counterparts? Coincidence?

ednut1:
show me a black nation dat is advanced in africa or Caribbean. dnt mention SA cos na white build am. the blackman is naturally backward hahahahaha

momoyama:
You are lost. New York has a population of over 10 million. Yet your answer ignores my question (whether "locals", i.e. ppl from New York) own the hotels there and asserts (wrongly) that "Americans" (population 340 million) own them.

By comparison, there are 350,000 ppl in the Bahamas (less than the smallest borough of NYC) yet you expect them to own (in ABSOLUTE rather than proportional terms) as many hotels not only as New Yorkers but as 340 million Americans!!!!!

For an intelligent debate, let's look at hotel ownership PER CAPITA among Bahamians and Americans. No contest there my friend. We win hands down.

As for your comment about accidents of geography, it suggests to me you have no understanding of history, since the only differentiating factors between any peoples in terms of development have been historical accidents. How else do you explain the sudden rise of the denizens of the most peripheral parts of Europe (the US and Britain) just within a few centuries of their having colonised the Americas largely by historical accident and default on the part of more advanced Mediterranean counterparts? Coincidence?

vickyboy22:
, please advise me, i need a current contact of some one living in bahamas.

vickyboy22:
, please advise me, i need a current contact of some one living in bahamas.

momoyama:
I am someone living in the Bahamas. What do you need?

vickyboy22:
, please advise me, i need a current contact of some one living in bahamas.

momoyama:
I am someone living in the Bahamas. What do you need?

momoyama:
I am someone living in the Bahamas. What do you need?

momoyama:
I am someone living in the Bahamas. What do you need?

lekkie073:
Because we eat too much carbs which gives more physical energy and a lesser mental energy....

jakiedudu:
One of the biggest mistake African leaders made at the time of independence in 1960 was their failure to plan the way forward. It was so obvious they lacked the skills and the experience needed for nation building, but they rather chose to live in mediocrity. They were simply too preeoccupied with getting independence that it never occurred to them that it's one thing to achieve independence and it's quite another to settle down and develop the nation. African culture is at the root of Africa's underdevelopment.

EasternLeopard:
1) We have a faulty educational system that fails to teach our kids how things work or how things are produced.

Imagine we do not teach basic engineering-technology from primary 1- 500 level which will concentrate on how things work and are produced.

Even the introtech taught in JSS classes are more scientific than engineering-technology because we do not know that science, engineering and technology are different. Science is about acquiring knowledge, Engineering uses the knowledge to design useful products and Technology bring that design into reality after verifying its workability/feasibility.

Imagine we teach our kids in introtech
Friction instead of how an electric bulb works or is produced. We teach them electricity instead of how an electric fan works and is produced.

Engineering-technology focuses more on application of scientific knowledge.


2) We lack the culture of social responsibility. How many of us sees job creation as our social responsibility.

3) Incompartability of several Africa nation, has left many of them fighting over ethno-religious supremacy. Eg After the Biafran war, Ogbemudia seeked to continue the development of indigenous technology using Biafran smart brains. Those in power called him and asked him if he wants to resurrect Biafra. That was the end of the project of which if he had continued only God knows what they would have done to him and the project.

asala1:
The simple truth is that we here study to survive the system, while the advanced countries to better their lives.

Arosa:
If you go to any European Country and inspect their educational Institutions and facilities then compare it with what you have in Africa(minus South Africa) you will know the reason why. The key to "Technologically Advanced" is Education, (educate a monkey today and tomorrow it will go to space).

pazienza:
Actually, many things on planet earth appear 'miraculously'.

EasternLeopard:
So many lecturers don't know how to pass information.

Imagine teaching undergraduates from unknown to known

For example

Instead of them to teach undergraduates

1) How things work or are produced

2) Laws theories formulars etc that operate or govern etc point (1)

3) The relationship btw point (1) and point(2)


They start by teaching

1) Laws, theories formulars etc that operate or govern how things work or are produced.

2) They most time fail to teach undergraduates how existing technologies work or are produced and their relationship with the laws theories formulars etc the technologies operate on or that governs the technologies.

3) They jump to application of those laws theories formulars etc in the final year in the form of projects

This leaves a lot of students confused in their field of study. Making it difficult for them to produce any meaning technology and destroying their interest in their course of study.

This aspect they neglect is a major fault in their lecturing format.

EasternLeopard:
Compare this lecturing patterns and pick the better pattern

Topic : Gun


Lecturer A

He starts by teaching you

1) Loading mechanism
2) Trigger mechanism
3) Bullet mechanism
4) Recoil
5) Tells you where this knowledge is applied
6) Never tells you how this knowledge is applied


Lecturer B

He starts by teaching you

1) How a gun works and is produced
2) How a bullet works and is produced
3) Loading mechanism
4) Bullet mechanism
5) Trigger mechanism
6) Recoil
7) Tells you where this knowledge is applied.
Tells you how this knowledge is applied.


Btw these two pattern which is better and which one did your lecturer applied

wirinet:
I am at loss as to which of my priorities is tragic. First, i never stated what my priorities are much less my values, we are only taking a critical look at the seeming backwardness of black african societies and maybe we, as a race can nake corrections and catch up with with rest of the world.

I beg to disagree with you on the issue of scale. Yes, a large population is very advantageous in terms of military, economic or diplomatic power, but size is not everything. Throughout history, you have relatively small populations outdoing their bigger and more populous neighbours. Japan was more technologically advanced that the much bigger China and was able to defeat China in World War II. Isreal has far smaller population and landmass that its Arab neighbours but is stronger Militarily, technologically and diplomatically. What does that tell you? It means the critical factor is in the value of the population and not neccessarily the size of the population. Japan achieved 100% literacy level before the turn of the 20th century. Isreal was founded by highly educated immigrants from Europe.
A 3million strong highly educated Jamaican population would be much stronger Militarily, technologically and diplomatically than a 200million mainly illiterate Nigerian population.

My regret is that black Africa is not taking the EDUCATION of its citizens seriously. We are more content with such things as entertainment, sports and tourism, which brings glory in the short term, but does nothing to advance the society. They only act as leisure and past time entertainment for the rich nations.

I am not obsessed with with being noticed, what i am obsessed is with developing our own solutions to our own problems and stop relying on other to do our thinking for us. Today, the black man is too dependent on West and the Asian for everything.

momoyama:
Your priorities and values would be comical if they were not so tragic. The Caribbean is made up of mostly small societies. In my case, my country has a population of about 350,000. The largest Anglophone Caribbean country, Jamaica, has under 3 million. Obviously such small population centres cannot be expected to impact the world profoundly in terms of military, diplomatic or economic power, just the same as Iceland, Malta or a small city in the USA or Germany would not impact the world much. Because of SCALE.

But the measure of SUCCESS of our countries is in how well run they are in their ability to provide a high standard of living for their population in health, education, wealth per capita and access to things like broadband connectivity. Equally important is to ensure such a standard of living that the country becomes a DESTINATION rather than a SOURCE of migration and that corruption and mismanagement are kept at low levels. That is the measure of success of those running a country, not some childish obsession with impacting the world or being noticed. I fear it is the latter kind of thinking that led many African leaders in the independence era to engage in huge show projects as a measure of success, rather than focusing on delivering good governance and socio-economic benefits to their whole populations.

The thread may indeed have begun by talking about the relative technological underdevelopment of Africa compared to Europe (which is a complex matter), but it quickly descended into racist nonsense about black societies (specifically including the Caribbean) being 'backward' and failing in terms of education and development. That is simply untrue and needed to be responded to, which I did. Is any of this getting through?

acorntree:
yes , right leader can bring a great change, but when and for how long are we to wait. Its as if black in general can not bring this changes because africans are not endowed with good leaders.

MPSA:
I can see why your country will remain sh*t hole forever, You are waiting for a white man to come and develop your backward country, Your stupid mentality mentioned my country(SA), since you failed to develop that sh*t hole you called country, black south Africans automatically failed , because of your weak mind set , 90 %of SA population is Black, if you think 10% of SA population can develop south africa alone without 90% of population, something isn't right with your head, You must do something about that sh*t hole, and stop pasting your failure to others, deal with your weak points and shut up

MIKOLOWISKA:
google Pareto principle
1% actually responsible for majority of development
The rest are just worker bees

Juchii:
4) u forgot to add. greed for money instead of making name like European cuntry such as toyota and others, currently, Every Nigeria student, taking engineering course want to work in oil company, not for any other thing but to fill his pocket, with this how do u think african will develope