₦airaland Forum

Alariiwo:
You must be crazy to put up this nonsense..

Igbos and Yorubas have absolutely nothing in common. If not for Nigeria, we would be far apart.

If you think cheap blackmail will work, you better have a rethink and re-eveluate your miserable existence.
Nonsense!

If you didnt have anything in common with the igbos, why were you against them forming biafra nation?

TheKingIsHere:
If you didnt have anything in common with the igbos, why were you against them forming biafra nation?

Who told you I'm agaisnt them??

What benefit is the Igbo presence to me in Nigeria? NOTHING!!

What I won't support is Igbos trying to steal other people's lands and identity.
If you're ready to go, take your 5 SE states alone and leave.

americanson:
I was going through the politics section when I stumbled on a thread in which a supposed efik indigene was calling for the unification and coalition of igbos and yorubas in order to form a formidable south.

it started as usual, Igbos who are emotional toddlers filled with so much uncontrollable and unforgiving spirit and bile couldn't contain their emotions and they let out their usual pent up anger over a past many didn't even experience--the biafra war.--as one of them even admitted.

I will repeat it again, if there is anything, igbos are not so wise, despite their bravery and strength. It was the wisdom of David that fell Goliath in the bible. Go figure... everything is not by gra gra.

According to history, Ojukwu was no where to be found when shiit hit the fan. He saved his FAMILY first before the children of the masses that sacrificed their children at that altar of war arena.

History also has it on record that other ethnic groups fought on the side of Biafra and with casualties recorded on their side as well. But each time this story is told by Igbos, they hardly ever mention this side of the story. How do you want them to feel?

If Biafra was so great as you all boast on nairaland, how come just food was used to bring the great biafra to its knees? This is what happens when you lack strategy.

Look at IPOB agitation and see who disintegrated them... fellow igbos did. You have not defeated your enemies within, you want to take on an entire nation. Kill those governors, the entire current governors and I will begin to take you serious.

The mere fact that Nnamdi Kanu ( I didn't like his strategy which buttress my points above--lack of wisdom and strategy but brave) is missing and everywhere in the East is calm when you should be after your governors, burning up and maiming them for partaking in disappearance of Nnamdi Kanu, kill their family if you can, you are here making noise.

Now listen up... bring up Biafra agitation million times and it will fail a million times... because you guy lack wisdom.... FACT! what is bravery without wisdom? There too many loopholes that elites will always use against the agitation of Biafra and you guys are not even ready to fix those loopholes.

I had to spend more time on Igbo issue because this is where I come from.

The Yorubas on the other hand always act like they are too smart, they think forming alliance with the North means the will enjoy so much benefits... what are the stats as of 2018? Is SW now the Utopia?

One slowpoke said "we know what we want"... What do you want? Are you getting what you want? If you are using Lagos state development as yardstick of progress of SW in 2018, you are one of the fools of the 21st century. Many of you who lay claim to Lagos and sing "Eko Oni Baje" are not even from that state. You are singing Eko Oni Baje but your state in Ekiti, Ogun, Osun, Ondo, Oyo are nothing to write home about.

No light, no good roads, education is in shambles, no jobs, poverty is on the increase... and so many plagues I can't mention.

You continue to associate with the North that is EVERY damn thing backwards, a group people who makes God regret his works of creation.

Nigeria is being recognised for any achievements on the international arena, it is OFTEN the SOUTH! 99.9% achievements in this country is by the works of the South... but you all allow this good for nothing stone age Neanderthals to keep dragging the progressive South backwards because of your foolishness, pride and ego!

Do you think the North does not have differences? but they are often quick to cover up their mess before the very eyes of the South, case in point, the incessant attacks by Emir Sanusi and the drama that followed suit.

I really don't know what is wrong with you people... educated but often act like you are smart illiterates. Left for me, the North is NOTHING...and they can be put where they belong but you all keep making them feel important by your actions and inactions. Do you see them commenting as much as you?

Listen up... the fact that you know how to read and write does not mean you are smart or intelligent.

Till I die, no Northerner will ever get my votes... Buhari did a nice job in letting me know we are not one!

Honestly, you deserve a presidential award for this.

You just said the bitter truth that majority are not willing to hear or read.

For igbos, they are very emotional, immature and have an unforgiving spirit.

The irony is that they blame everyone apart from themselves.

They blamed north for killing their people during biafra but praised ojukwu despite he ran, abandoned his people and left them to die during the war.

They blamed Lord Lugard for joining us together with the north yet it was Nnamdi Azikiwe that refused the inclusion of a part in the constitution that gives a region the opportunity from breaking away from Nigeria and forming their own soveriegn country.

If the igbos can get rid of these unneccessary hatred and plan strategically, they will be unstoppable. But as it stands now, they are not ready.


For the yorubas, their problem is not just forming educated but they also have this envy which i always wonder why.

Another annoying part is their unending stewardship to the north (a backward set of people). The irony is that they have never got anything good back in return from the north.

Take tinubu for example, after polishing Buhari and assisting that he won the elections, till date he didnt enjoy anything apart from being sidelined for 3 years and called back to be a mere reconciliator.

The SW didnt enjoy anything from Buhari administration as he gave almost 92% to his brothers up north while leaving the remaining 8% for the south. Even tinubu's own wife has warned him not to get involved again with Buhari but he refused, later he will come and lament expecting symphaty from everyone.

Go to NPA in Lagos, almost everyone there are northerners. I have some yoruba friends that are complaining bitterly about being sidelined in their own state by these people yet you see them fighting Igbos and other tribes online while their real enemies are laughing at their foolishness.

The north will end up poorer than haiti and worse than rwanda should the south separate from them hence they will do anything for one nigeria.

Nowenuse:
Gbam!

I wish I could re-like this thread a thousand times.

Sometimes I wonder why Southerners tend to be very foolish. Does western education make people more wise or more foolish, I keep on asking myself.


As a middlebelter who knows much about the core-north, let me highlight what you have said about the differences of the north.

Foolish southerners don't know that the core-northernerns have even worse differences among themselves, they only try to hide it and bury their differences when it comes to politics, but southerners will rather wash their dirty linens in public and fight dirty.


Up till today, most Kanuris of the north -east find it difficult to pray behind a Hausa Imam. A Hausa man cannot lead prayers in Maiduguri or any other Kanuri area, it is impossible. Kanuris consider Hausas to be inferior muslims.

On the other hand Hausa-fulanis consider most middlebelt and northern minority muslims as fake muslims. If you doubt, ask people who witnessed Jos or Kaduna or Kano religious crisis, they will tell you how Hausa fulanis murder Nupe, Gwari, Bariba, Ebira and Igala muslims. .......Yet when it comes to politics, they will sweep all this under the carpet and unite.

See the current massacre going on in Zamfara. It is nothing but fulani herdsmen killing Hausa farmers, but the wise Core-northern leaders call it banditry, hoodlums and robbery attacks, for the sake of unity...... Men, even me myself, I dobale for these people. They are masters at their game......
Times without number, fulani herdsmen and Hausa farmers have clashed, but the way they cover it in the core-north, you won't know.....

Now, the differences btw southerners has never escalated to the level of killing each other, yet their mouths are always louder to talk about their differences...... What a short-sighted group of deluded fools.

Spot on

Nowenuse:
This is what I call the typical foolishness of a Black man.
Cos, white people and other races do not reason like this.

French and English people are as different from each other as Chinese & Indians, yet the same French & English people put their differences and enemity aside, sat down on a table in Berlin 1884 and discussed on how to share, divide, conquer and rule your fathers and mine. ......Today, is that legacy not still standing? They are still ruling you and I today. ..... This is the reason why the black man would always be the scum of the earth. Lack of common sense.

If Europeans had not put their differences aside to unite and colonize Africa and in extension the world, do you think the white race would have been superior today?

Hausas, Kanuris & fulanis fought bloody wars before the British came and amalgamated them together, they still have their differences till date, yet they put it aside and unite for politics.

How many wars did Igbos & Yorubas fight before the British came?

You deserve a presidential handshake for this.

Damn!!!

blackfase:
I so love your caustic satire. ive been yelling it all over, the biggest problem with this useless space called Nigeria, but specifically with Southerners in this case isnt corruption or the useless gang of reprobates who tag themselves as leaders, but the horde of foolish, unwise, hollow-thinking morons who continue to give fillip to those "born to rule" creatures. One of the creatures came up and crying the south is trying to divide them, as if that hasnt been their trump card over the south over the years. Let the two tribes continue to squabble at the detriment of their coming generations, those ones up there got nothing to lose. Idiots!!!

Oga blackfase, where you dey since?

I hail. We need more of you guys to sink this in to some foolish people here.

They dont know who they enemies are.

Yoruba people are not sincere about pursuing a Oduduwa Republic/Nation, and as a result, it will be hard to work together with them without thinking they will backstab you.


That is it

bakynes:
OP if you notice my moniker yesterday, I was in support of the Southern unity the OP with McCain moniker advised.

I know quite well Igbos and Yorubas don't like each other especially the lots on this Forum but I was only suggesting even a temporary union of Both to wrestle power away from the Northerners that are controlling things in Government,Politics and drawing the rest of us Backwards.

I was only proposing temporary unity and after the power have been taken from them we can then go our separate ways.

You see the way Nigeria is structured and constituted, the North will continue to control the rest of us in these called Nigeria. They have designed it that way, the Igbos that want Biafra will never get it except through War because referendum was not included in the constitution so their representatives cannot over ride the Northern representative votes in the National assembly, the only way to achieve that is to rally round with other Southern and middle Belt representatives to get more votes in favour of referendum ahead of the core Northern representatives who will want to twart the inclusion of refendum in the constitution.

We all know we need to restructure by dissolution of power to the constituent states and region but the Hausa Fulani leaders will never agree to it because it ends their dominance in Nigeria so we keep going around in circles and undeveloped when the rest of the world is moving forward.

Igbos alone cannot get their Biafra without the support of others (except they result to War. If you go to the Airport and Seaport,Customs,immigration/ border control in the SW the Northerners control all these agencies so how do the Yorubas want to grow without restructuring and devolution of Power they have been clamouring for?

In Conclusion, if the Igbos and Yorubas are to get what they want, they must unite temporarily to fight these born to rule Oligarchy who keeps drawing them back.

The irony is that they will not listen.

The rather fight with themselves

TheKingdom:
Yoruba people are not sincere about pursuing a Oduduwa Republic/Nation, and as a result, it will be hard to work together with them without thinking they will backstab you.


That is it

I don't understand.. How?

obailala:
Southern unity did not die in 1979 when the SE supported a northerner over a southerner, southern unity also did not die in 1993 when the SE again supported a northerner over a southerner, but southern unity died in 2015 when the SW turned its back on a candidate it supported in 2011 to choose the other (northern) candidate? It remains a mystery what kind of toxin Goodluck Ebele Jonathan injected into the bloodstream of some people to continually force this 'toddler emotions' driven warped logic even unto 2018.

Fact is that southern unity never existed, or we can alternatively say it died during the civil war. Another hard fact is that the foolishness of the Igbos and Yorubas in not knowing when to put aside these silly childish differences is the only reason the north will continue to enjoy the upper hand in every political sphere of Nigeria. Common sense should let anyone know that people do not necessarily have to be friends to do business successfully, but that collective common sense is elusive in southern Nigeria. The responses so far in this thread is a testament to that.

Exactly. Thats what both tribes are lacking. COMMON SENSE

TheKingIsHere:
Oga blackfase, where you dey since?

I hail. We need more of you guys to sink this in to some foolish people here.

They dont know who they enemies are.

I hail you back my oga, how hustle?

My brother, mumus too full the country, especially this our South. We just dey form educated and "suffacated" upandan, zilch we no sabi. Perhaps its just the ruling class's grand design to keep the common folks uneducated/ undereducated to continue to manipulate them that they left education to rot to this degree. May God deliver us...

TheKingIsHere:
Honestly, you deserve a presidential award for this.

You just said the bitter truth that majority are not willing to hear or read.

For igbos, they are very emotional, immature and have an unforgiving spirit.

The irony is that they blame everyone apart from themselves.

They blamed north for killing their people during biafra but praised ojukwu despite he ran, abandoned his people and left them to die during the war.

They blamed Lord Lugard for joining us together with the north yet it was Nnamdi Azikiwe that refused the inclusion of a part in the constitution that gives a region the opportunity from breaking away from Nigeria and forming their own soveriegn country.

If the igbos can get rid of these unneccessary hatred and plan strategically, they will be unstoppable. But as it stands now, they are not ready.


For the yorubas, their problem is not just forming educated but they also have this envy which i always wonder why.

Another annoying part is their unending stewardship to the north (a backward set of people). The irony is that they have never got anything good back in return from the north.

Take tinubu for example, after polishing Buhari and assisting that he won the elections, till date he didnt enjoy anything apart from being sidelined for 3 years and called back to be a mere reconciliator.

The SW didnt enjoy anything from Buhari administration as he gave almost 92% to his brothers up north while leaving the remaining 8% for the south. Even tinubu's own wife has warned him not to get involved again with Buhari but he refused, later he will come and lament expecting symphaty from everyone.

Go to NPA in Lagos, almost everyone there are northerners. I have some yoruba friends that are complaining bitterly about being sidelined in their own state by these people yet you see them fighting Igbos and other tribes online while their real enemies are laughing at their foolishness.

The north will end up poorer than haiti and worse than rwanda should the south separate from them hence they will do anything for one nigeria.

What I know is that Igbos mean well for this country, they are fast movers and that is why they are angry because the laziness of some people is hindering their destiny... it is like life without oxygen. I just created a thread today asking the North what are their international achievements and i gave room for 20 slots... they could hardly fill up 10 slots, let alone 20, apart from Dangote. Check it out.

while on the thread, you will notice one thing, since they couldn't list their global achievements, they tried to cause fight between Igbos and Yorubas but I made sure it does not escalate to that level by asking the igbos not to respond. I didn't tell the yorubas because those ones don't react immediately. So, it was easier that way.

blackfase:
I hail you back my oga, how hustle?

My brother, mumus too full the country, especially this our South. We just dey form educated and "suffacated" upandan, zilch we no sabi. Perhaps its just the ruling class's grand design to keep the common folks uneducated/ undereducated to continue to manipulate them that they left education to rot to this degree. May God deliver us...

No perhaps on this one bro. It was what it is. It is intentional. It is their fear and one local government chairman in the South even said it one time which was narrated by one of the attendees.

I don't know about other people, but I saw the fear in their eyes when Nnamdi Kanu was around. They fear a united masses...

I agree with you, God bless NK. Is it not this same stupid masses, well not all that have refused to wake from their foolishness, smell d coffee? but chose continue to altercate on useless grounds of tribe and frivolity?

remedick:
No perhaps on this one bro. It was what it is. It is intentional. It is their fear and one local government chairman in the South even said it one time which was narrated by one of the attendees.

I don't know about other people, but I saw the fear in their eyes when Nnamdi Kanu was around. They fear a united masses...

Yea, their ancient currency of holding up superiority over the South, yet a cursed sonofapig from their farmished land accused d south of trying to divide them.

And our mumus from d South continue to play into their hands by dog-fighting each other. Fools!

remedick:
while on the thread, you will notice one thing, since they couldn't list their global achievements, they tried to cause fight between Igbos and Yorubas but I made sure it does not escalate to that level by asking the igbos not to respond. I didn't tell the yorubas because those ones don't react immediately. So, it was easier that way.